Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[SchAlternate]

If anything I would like to see how Retro could handle a forgotten IP like Mach Rider with a modern feel to it, a Metroid game would be great but not expected maybe a F-Zero or a Star Fox game are more probable.

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Dat signature...

 

[Zhadgon]

Dat signature...

Is something wrong with my signature?
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[SchAlternate]

Is something wrong with my signature?
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Au contraire, it's pretty freaking awesome.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Au contraire, it's pretty freaking awesome.

Would that all the characters in that signature were playable.

Someday...someday...

 

[Zhadgon]

Au contraire, it's pretty freaking awesome.

Oh, thanks then, your avatar is great is from SFIV and I suspect you are big fan of boxing and Little Mac?

Would that all the characters in that signature were playable.

Someday...someday...

Well if we are lucky we can get 7/10 in this Smash and for the next one complete the list .
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[SchAlternate]

Oh, thanks then, your avatar is great is from SFIV and I suspect you are big fan of boxing and Little Mac?
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Nah, it just that I tend to update my avatar anytime someone is revealed. It usually involves a mustache.

So, who fits more that description better than Dudley himself?

 

[Zhadgon]

Nah, it just that I tend to update my avatar anytime someone is revealed. It usually involves a mustache.

So, who fits more that description than Dudley himself?

I have never played SFIV, someday I will pick that game and get my a... kicked, so only characters with mustache you are very dandy sir.
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[Trigger123]

That Kraid art makes me want him in Smash.
Everyone that says he's too big is a hypocrite.

What are you talking about he is too big... Lol I'm just kidding seeing him in smash though would ackward I just can't see him fighting. He would be cool though and that drawing is the best design I've ever seen.
but guarantee he will be in the next metroid and be much more represent able.

 

[Welshy91]

What are you talking about he is too big... Lol I'm just kidding seeing him in smash though would ackward I just can't see him fighting. He would be cool though and that drawing is the best design I've ever seen.
but guarantee he will be in the next metroid and be much more represent able.

We're being too humble in only asking for Ridley. We deserve Kraid too.

 

[False Sense]

We're being too humble in only asking for Ridley. We deserve Kraid too.

Well, Kraid seems to be a bit more defined by his size than Ridley is...

 

[AustarusIV]

Well, if the Kraid we all know and love can't get in, then how about the NES Kraid? He's only about the size of Samus!

 

[Welshy91]

Well, Kraid seems to be a bit more defined by his size than Ridley is...

Just make him bigger than Bowser and it'll be fine. Ridley needs his bro for backup.

 

[Trigger123]

Kraid as an assist trophy would alright with me

We're being too humble in only asking for Ridley. We deserve Kraid too.

lol this made me laugh. What if kraid got in over Ridley I don't know whether I'd be happy or not. I think someone needs to make kraid thread for the hell of it

 

[Welshy91]

Kraid as an assist trophy would alright with me

lol this made me laugh. What if kraid got in over Ridley I don't know whether I'd be happy or not. I think someone needs to make kraid thread for the hell of it

I'm actually not being facetious for once. I would make a Kraid thread but I already had one thread die on me, my heart can't take it again.

 

[Zynux]

@ Welshy91 Certainly not impossible, but would be much more difficult for people to wrap their head around compared to Ridley, as Kraid's whole body can't even fit on the screen in both Super and Zero. Unless we get Mini-Kraid......

Mini-Kraid for Smash!

 

[Trigger123]

How he was supposed to look in metroid prime.. Would have been great but imagine ridley playable fighting kraid as a boss, that would feel weird.

Just these two together though

 

[Welshy91]

@ Welshy91 Certainly not impossible, but would be much more difficult for people to wrap their head around compared to Ridley, as Kraid's whole body can't even fit on the screen in both Super and Zero. Unless we get Mini-Kraid......

Mini-Kraid for Smash!

If you could all see what I see in my head, we would unanimously agree that Kraid deserves to be in Smash almost as much as Ridley. Then again, seeing what I see in my head may cause unpleasant side effects.

 

[Zynux]

It's alright bro I hear ya. As I said before, it's most certainly not impossible. IMO, I think Kraid's problems aren't even his size, but just the fact that compared to Ridley he doesn't have nearly as much importance to Samus and Metroid as a whole. Still, he's definitely iconic, and is a fan-favorite in the Metroid community, so who knows?

Anyways, I guess we need to get back on topic so...

Ridley looks like to be a good size here (again, this is based on Super Metroid, where with the exclusion on the Original Metroid was his smallest depicted size). But I kind of want to point out too that he seems to have good body mass here too. A common complaint of Ridley is that he's a bit too lanky, however I still attest that's because of Brawls model more then actual Ridley.

With Zero Mission's design, besides maybe his waistline he doesn't seem as nearly as lanky as one would think. Powerful legs, muscle arms (nowhere near Other M though), broad shoulders, and his neck doesn't look like two sticks glued together. So I think just about any Ridley design (Super, Zero, Meta or Omega) would work in the game, which is why I keep insisting that Brawl's design overall just isn't good.

 

[SchAlternate]

Out of all the places I had to get involved in a Ridley argument, it had to be in an AWD Deviation...

Man, being a Ridley supporter sure is tiring!

 

[silver_blade001]

Hey I just thought of something, one comparison that everyone uses is that to of Bowser. Ignoring all of his size fluctuations and just his size in the game they made him a lot taller in the new version, they even commented on that on the very first reveal trailer. This new height even clips through some of the platforms that were on some of the maps, if they did this to Bowser then how is any different from how Ridley would be.

 

[AndreaAC]

Just a quick drawing i made out of boredom, with Ridley and Rayquaza combining their beam attacks to send the world to hell.....as simple as that

 

[SchAlternate]

That awkward moment when you realize Andrew D¡ckman, motherflying Andrew D¡ckman, is a TooBigot.

I mean, not like that's a dealbreaker or anything, but egh. It's, again, kind of awkward.

EDIT: Then again, it's not like he takes the whole deal so seriously anyway. He's lucky he doesn't get involved into the usual madness these debates cause.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

What I find discouraging is that he laughs it off. He doesn't take it seriously...

Unless, he's frequently like that....

 

[Pacack]

What I find discouraging is that he laughs it off. He doesn't take it seriously...

Unless, he's frequently like that....

I'm pretty sure he's like that a lot.

 

[OblivionWolf]

Have you guys seen GameXplains latest Smash video? The Ridley hate is so strong in those comments. I really hope us Ridley fans have the last laugh....

 

[Reila]

I wish I was a Ridley hater. It is just so much easier to hate and say he is too big and blahblah, instead of defending him. The thing is, even though I will likely not play as Ridley if he is in the game, I can't help myself but I wish for him to be in, because he is one of my favorite bosses in games and the main antagonist of one of my favorite Nintendo franchises. I also want to drink the toobigots' salty tears, so that is another good reason for Ridley to be in.

 

[Shaking//very]

what i find the most annoying is that the people

Have you guys seen GameXplains latest Smash video? The Ridley hate is so strong in those comments. I really hope us Ridley fans have the last laugh....

but it's good to know - despite the hate - that gamexplain is actually a ridley supporter (:

 

[Frostwraith]

What I find discouraging is that he laughs it off. He doesn't take it seriously...

Unless, he's frequently like that....

I'm pretty sure he's like that a lot.

Ain't Sakurai without his [laughs].

I'm sure that, even if Ridley doesn't make it, Sakurai has at least considered his appearance.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

IS RIDLEY IN YET?
Okay no? I'll check back tomorrow...

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

It could always be delayed, unfortunately, like DKCTF. Hopefully it's ready for an E3 reveal this year.
Also, is your avatar Masked Man, if so, where'd you find that drawing?

Not just this mystery game will get delay probably SSB4 as well

If its prime 4 or another metroid game like back on the snes/nes and it's shown at E3 ridley could be a lock for E3

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I'm starting to wonder if Ridley's inclusion would be received positively or negatively overall....

 

[AustarusIV]

I'm starting to wonder if Ridley's inclusion would be received positively or negatively overall....

I'm like 99.9% sure Ridley would be received overwhelmingly positive. The Too Bigots are so freaking loud, that you would think everyone doesn't like him, but the thing is most people are either somewhat interested or indifferent towards whether he gets in. What's been an important issue on their minds so far is that they have something of a hard time imagining how he would look or walk compared to other characters. But that's really not a problem now because we've had good size comparisons from people like Angelglory, and they seem to be generally well-received.

That awkward moment when you realize Andrew D¡ckman, motherflying Andrew D¡ckman, is a TooBigot.

I mean, not like that's a dealbreaker or anything, but egh. It's, again, kind of awkward.

EDIT: Then again, it's not like he takes the whole deal so seriously anyway. He's lucky he doesn't get involved into the usual madness these debates cause.

I'm sorry, but who is he?

 

[False Sense]

I'm starting to wonder if Ridley's inclusion would be received positively or negatively overall....

That's kind of hard to say... There's certainly a lot of supporters for him, but then there's the very vocal people who strongly advocate against him. And then there's a lot of indifferent people.

However, assuming they do a good job with Ridley and make him an interesting character, I'm sure the overall reception for being able to play as a space-pirate-dragon should be pretty positive.

 

[DraginHikari]

It kind of depends how many people are going along with it simply because it's a popular thing to do, the ones that do that and have no reason other then that to do will quickly drop the opinion if he were added.

 

[Arcanir]

Well, Ridley definitely has one of the strongest character popularities in the west and False Sense stated some of those who were ambivalent could be won over if he looks interesting like what happened with Rosalina, so he'd probably be at least mostly positive in reception. When it comes to the detractors it gets a bit harder as we don't know if it's truly a large group or just very vocal. Some could be won over or at least accept him getting in, but then again there will probably still be that small core group that refuses to accept it.

 

[Snagrio]

I'm sure the overall reception for being able to play as a space-pirate-dragon should be pretty positive.

Space-Pirate-PURPLE-Dragon. Can't forget the purple part, that's very important.

 

[Dark Phazon]

I wanted to emphasize on how the other pirate leaders are bigger than Ridley because their size actually is an important part of their character. And because I wanted to give them a bit more presence since I've done so much art of Ridley already.

Sickest Kraid drawring i have ever seen.

 

[BKupa666]

I'm starting to wonder if Ridley's inclusion would be received positively or negatively overall....

I don't think it's possible for any character added to Smash to have an overall negative reception, because many forums are riddled with Sakurai apologists who find reasons to praise whatever he does. But Ridley certainly wouldn't get a negative reception in any case; the TooBigotry would be completely and utterly drowned out by the cries of "HOLY ****ING **** IT'S RIDLEY!"

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

The too big arguments won't die, but we all know that it doesn't matter. Sakurai himself said it.

 

[DraginHikari]

I would image the ones who would have the most negative reaction to it are those individuals that made a public spectacle about how much they didn't want Ridley as in the YouTube examples we've seen, wounded pride is often one of the hardest things to get over.