Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[FinalStarmen]

What I have always especially admired from Metroid Fusion was how atmospherically disturbing the BSL Research Station's environment was. The classical horror elements of an good-quality sci-fi movie are all there - the ambient music which ranges from peaceful to unsettling, the prevalent theme of desolate isolation and self-preservation, and the metapopulation of violently dangerous animals infected by parasites. The worst among them, of course, being the predatory SA-X, whose ominous presence invokes spine-chilling fear.

While not exactly Dead Space (because why should it be?), Metroid Fusion does invoke a general feeling of inharmoniousness, uncommon in other Nintendo series. While not the absolute best Metroid game (a title usually bestowed on either Super or Prime), nonetheless it is still a great fun-inducing, adrenaline-pumping game. At the very least, that is my two cents on the subject.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Good morning all and WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM.

Remember this video? Look at the thumbs section, in less than 24 hours, they more than quadrupled the total amount of thumb downs and are literally ruining the reputation of my video.The comment section also got an overall increased flow in comments including "Stupid" and "***". Please, there isn't any time for Valentines Day Depression when I have to wake up to THIS. Please guys, help me get the thumbs back in the green.

OMG I bet 80% of thumbs downers are subscribers to this fool. If I had a account I would most definatly like your video

http://youtu.be/U_H7X77lM4Y

As a matter of fact I got a good one to help

Giants shrink when playable right did ridley be playable ever nope that's why he's always so big so people p can't say hes too big because he's never ben playable

Anyway did anything in the direct yesterday get announce that might help ridley get confirmed for E3 even though he's likely to get confirmed there

 

[AustarusIV]

It's worth noting that March 19 will be the 20th anniversary of Super Metroid's release in Japan.

I highly doubt Ridley would be revealed until then (it's too soon, I think), but perhaps we'll get something Metroid related on that date...?

 

[False Sense]

It's worth noting that March 19 will be the 20th anniversary of Super Metroid's release in Japan.

I highly doubt Ridley would be revealed until then (it's too soon, I think), but perhaps we'll get something Metroid related on that date...?

Well, if Ridley isn't revealed that day, maybe we could get something that helps his chances...

Dark Samus assist trophy?

 

[ProjectAngel]

It's worth noting that March 19 will be the 20th anniversary of Super Metroid's release in Japan.

I highly doubt Ridley would be revealed until then (it's too soon, I think), but perhaps we'll get something Metroid related on that date...?

The Game Developer's Conference runs March 17-21- the same week the SM anniversary is held.

I would think that Sakurai might hold a Developer Direct that week just to give us some insight into our latest two newcomers- and maybe reveal an new one, possibly Ridley. We'll see, though.

 

[CardiganBoy]

Well i don't care about Fusion's linearity, because that game has the most suspense of all Metroids, kinda like MGS games, where you don't know who to trust or not.

 

[Reila]

The Game Developer's Conference runs March 17-21- the same week the SM anniversary is held.

I would think that Sakurai might hold a Developer Direct that week just to give us some insight into our latest two newcomers- and maybe reveal an new one, possibly Ridley. We'll see, though.

Would love that to happen, but it is just too good to be true ;_;

 

[SchAlternate]

Metroid Fusion was my first and currently favorite Metroid game.

Man, the GBA had a gallery of amazing games.

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

Happy Valentine's Day Ridley supporters (and crack shippers).

 

[stan423321]

No. NO. Ridley is not too big by himself, but him replacing even one of ICs in the team is a little overkill, especially with that flying skills.

And the pairing isn't that crazy, wasn't there a pterodactyl in Ice Climbers?

 

[DraginHikari]

This is the internet if a pairing is possible it exists somewhere... well even when it's not technically possible it exists.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

The Game Developer's Conference runs March 17-21- the same week the SM anniversary is held.

I would think that Sakurai might hold a Developer Direct that week just to give us some insight into our latest two newcomers- and maybe reveal an new one, possibly Ridley. We'll see, though.

Sorry man only trailer videos newcomers get reveal I highly doubt one video will show on the 19th

The number 1 time to reveal ridley playable is at E3 because we can get another gameplay trailer with most veterans and confirmed newcomers so far then just like mega man the next trailer will be the one that reveals ridley

 

[Staarih]

The Game Developer's Conference runs March 17-21- the same week the SM anniversary is held.
I would think that Sakurai might hold a Developer Direct that week just to give us some insight into our latest two newcomers- and maybe reveal an new one, possibly Ridley. We'll see, though.

If only this were to happen, would be so awesome! I'd also really appreciate a full-fledged Smash Bros Direct at some point, with lots and lots of gameplay footage, details about the game itself (mechanics and whatnot) and of course, something new to reveal!

 

[Sehnsucht]

If only this were to happen, would be so awesome! I'd also really appreciate a full-fledged Smash Bros Direct at some point, with lots and lots of gameplay footage, details about the game itself (mechanics and whatnot) and of course, something new to reveal!

I know Sakurai regrets the Brawl Dojo approach, but he's giving us serious Blue Balls this time around. XS

 

[UltimateWario]

All this talk of Fusion coming out on the Virtual Console, and I'm sitting here with it on my Ambassador 3DS.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

All this talk of Fusion coming out on the Virtual Console, and I'm sitting here with it on my Ambassador 3DS.

I'm sitting here with my original Fusion cartridge and my Gameboy Advance. Get on my level son!

I honestly still can't believe Fusion and Prime are 12 years old, they're two games which truly have stood the test of time.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I always thought Zero Mission was the best Metroid game...a solid remake of the first Metroid with many aspects brought in from the likes of Super Metroid to make it an overall fast-paced action platformer. Not to mention it was where we were introduced to Zero Suit Samus for the first time in that lovely Metal Gear Solid-esque sneaking bit.

 

[AustarusIV]

I'm sitting here with my original Fusion cartridge and my Gameboy Advance. Get on my level son!

I honestly still can't believe Fusion and Prime are 12 years old, they're two games which truly have stood the test of time.

I can't believe Super Metroid is about to be 20 years old myself. The game looks and plays good enough to the point that it could have been released yesterday.

That's why Metroid is my favorite video game franchise from Nintendo.

 

[AndreaAC]

I had this idea while I was making my paper Art Toy pattern.....

Hope you like it! Happy Valentine's Day to EVERYONE!!!

 

[ProjectAngel]

Sorry man only trailer videos newcomers get reveal I highly doubt one video will show on the 19th

The number 1 time to reveal ridley playable is at E3 because we can get another gameplay trailer with most veterans and confirmed newcomers so far then just like mega man the next trailer will be the one that reveals ridley

It doesn't have to be the 19th. It can be any day within the Conference itself.

Or Sakurai can wait until April to reveal Ridley or whoever the next newcomer will be. He's not going to be limited to E3 just to reveal everyone's favorite Space Pirate pterosaur.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I had this idea while I was making my paper Art Toy pattern.....

View attachment 8530

Hope you like it! Happy Valentine's Day to EVERYONE!!!

....It's a nice picture, but it doesn't make me feel any less depressed than this day tends to make me feel.

 

[Sehnsucht]

....It's a nice picture, but it doesn't make me feel any less depressed than this day tends to make me feel.

What if I held you gently?

 

[Dark Phazon]

Your forgetting the E3 trailer where they show off Ridley, King K. Rool and Krystal after announcing a Wii Metroid and 3ds Metroid, a new Wii U star fox and tropical freeze for the 3ds.

Yh.....wake me up when that happens....


(would be sweet! Except Krystal)

 

[Hotfeet444]

What if I held you gently?

I'd say yes if I get a two inch thick rubber mask to go along with it.

Edit: Actually screw it, bleeding out would be a perfect bonus.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I can't believe Super Metroid is about to be 20 years old myself. The game looks and plays good enough to the point that it could have been released yesterday.

That's why Metroid is my favorite video game franchise from Nintendo.

Super Metroid is one of those games I simply consider better than nearly every other video game, so I don't really want to praise it for keeping up with the times as much as I praise it for simply being better than everything else to begin with. Earthbound is the only other game I consider of such status.

I always thought Zero Mission was the best Metroid game...a solid remake of the first Metroid with many aspects brought in from the likes of Super Metroid to make it an overall fast-paced action platformer. Not to mention it was where we were introduced to Zero Suit Samus for the first time in that lovely Metal Gear Solid-esque sneaking bit.

My only problem with Zero Mission is that it's so damn short, though that's probably a silly thing for me to complain about since I ocassionally speed run the game. I do also think that the game is at its best from the start until Tourian, I never enjoyed the Chozodia part that much, and Mecha Ridley is just a big joke as a final boss too. However, I do still consider it the third best Metroid game, only behind Prime 1 and Super. Plus, it was my first Metroid game, so there's also that.

 

[Anomilus]

I got the cartridge and Ambassador versions of Fusion. Yay me! :D


Anyway, was doing a tad bit of thinking, and I wanna share this thought of mine with you guys before I post it elsewhere. Now bear with me on this, 'cause it falls into conspiracy territory, but...

...Maybe Sakurai really has been dropping hints on the DOJO the whole time. Let's exclude Villager, Mega Man, and Wii Fit Trainer for a moment...

Mii - Dark Emperor is shown, no other emphasis on the stage he likely inhabits.
Rosalina - The "artstyle" update we got well before the Mario Galaxy stage was revealed
Palutena - The "goddess statue" update. Again, no other emphasis on the stage.
Little Mac - The "Smash Stadium". Many picked up that it was a boxing ring and that the now replaced Smash logo had familiar Punch-Out elements

...and of course...

Ridley - "Samus's Trauma". Not just that Ridley and Samus have fought on this stage before, but the room itself is battle damaged, indicating that a battle has already occurred.

This can easily be interpreted as conspiracy and tin foil hat talk. But... I'm not so sure. Some of these updates we have to admit have been a bit "nudge-nudge wink-wink". We also have come to realize that direct character identification generally means exclusion from the roster e.g. Viridi.

...And that's not actually all. We have that 3DS Fire Emblem stage. Anybody wanna guess who that might be related to? Seriously, make a guess, 'cause I'm not familiar enough with the series.

...

And we may have failed to recognize one more clue. Another strange anomaly that's yet to be explained....

The fanbase has speculated a new move for Zelda, yet something so obviously new and different has yet to be explained since her reveal. They've speculated that it's an assist trophy, yet so far all new assist trophies have been disclosed immediately. Starfy wasn't properly disclosed, but he's old. Perhaps Sakurai will eventually give us an explanation.

...Or maybe Toon Zelda is real...o.O


Thoughts guys??

 

[Dark Phazon]

HOLY F*CK WHAT. THAT'S TERRIBLE. Oh my gosh that's freaking awful... I mean. UGH. I really hate people. I'm sorry man. I have to go to school right now... I'm sure when everyone else get's up or notices this they'll do something... (I don't really know how to... fix the like bar, but I could try to educate the jerks in the comments... or end up in a pointless debate...)

I think it would be easier to try fix the like bar

 

[Sehnsucht]

I'd rather not Sheik be sacrificed for the sake of a Down B Phantom Knight Summon move. Besides, the Toon-verse design of the Knight is at odds with Zelda's TP-inspired design, so the moveset connection is strenuous. So it's either an Assist Trophy, or related to a Toonverse character (Toon Link, Tetra, etc.).

I'm also in agreement that all of these new stages appear to be the Home stages for Newcomers, going by the current trends. I think Pyrosphere will be Ridley's home stage, and that we'll get a Prime 3 stage for Samus (Bryyo or Elysia, most likely).

 

[Reila]

I will die of happiness if the Phantom Zelda above is actually Toon Zelda transformed or something similar.

 

[Dark Phazon]

I want Ridley's reveal trailer to be related to some random Nintendo character. Rosalina's had Kirby in the beginning and Little Mac's had Samus making fun of his height. I just have no idea who would be the best character for his trailer. Maybe Marth (don't ask me why) or Peach...

What about thr classic fairytale likr shrek.

Princess in a castle guarded by dragon, knight in shining armor comes to rescue her.

Princess Peach
Hero: Marth
Villian: Ridley

On a Bowser castle stage???

Lol WFT am i thinking...hey
..its decent...

 

[Sehnsucht]

I will die of happiness if the Phantom Zelda above is actually Toon Zelda transformed or something similar.

Something similar?

Alfonzo Knight confirmed.

 

[False Sense]

I got the cartridge and Ambassador versions of Fusion. Yay me! :D


Anyway, was doing a tad bit of thinking, and I wanna share this thought of mine with you guys before I post it elsewhere. Now bear with me on this, 'cause it falls into conspiracy territory, but...

...Maybe Sakurai really has been dropping hints on the DOJO the whole time. Let's exclude Villager, Mega Man, and Wii Fit Trainer for a moment...

Mii - Dark Emperor is shown, no other emphasis on the stage he likely inhabits.
Rosalina - The "artstyle" update we got well before the Mario Galaxy stage was revealed
Palutena - The "goddess statue" update. Again, no other emphasis on the stage.
Little Mac - The "Smash Stadium". Many picked up that it was a boxing ring and that the now replaced Smash logo had familiar Punch-Out elements

...and of course...

Ridley - "Samus's Trauma". Not just that Ridley and Samus have fought on this stage before, but the room itself is battle damaged, indicating that a battle has <i>already</i> occurred.

This can easily be interpreted as conspiracy and tin foil hat talk. But... I'm not so sure. Some of these updates we have to admit have been a bit "nudge-nudge wink-wink". We also have come to realize that direct character identification generally means exclusion from the roster e.g. Viridi.

...And that's not actually all. We have that 3DS Fire Emblem stage. Anybody wanna guess who that might be related to? Seriously, make a guess, 'cause I'm not familiar enough with the series.

...

And we may have failed to recognize one more clue. Anther strange anomaly that's yet to be explained....

The fanbase has speculated a new move for Zelda, yet something so obviously new and different has yet to be explained since he reveal. They've speculated that it's an assist trophy, yet so far all new assist trophies have been disclosed immediately. Starfy wasn't properly disclosed, but he's old. Perhaps Sakurai will eventually give us an explanation.

...Or maybe Toon Zelda is real...o.O


Thoughts guys??

That's certainly quite possible. If there's one thing I've learned about Sakurai over the course of the latter half of 2013, is that he is a troll. Like, seriously, top class troll. Just look at what he did with that boxing ring. He had an ENTIRE DESIGN made for it just to hide the fact that it was Little Mac's stage. He even used that version of the stage in the first official trailer of the game. Basically, he seems to be very good at tricking us into thinking a character might be out of the picture, and then revealing them in a grand fashion, at least if Little Mac is anything to go by. So seeing as how he's "confirmed" Ridley as a stage hazard, it's quite possible the exact opposite is true; that he's just fooling us (or more specifically, the Ridley haters that use the Pyrosphere as proof of Ridley's non-playable role in the game) until he's ready to reveal Ridley as a character. It is a rather genius strategy, when you think about it. A new character isn't that exciting when there's no doubt of their inclusion. I've seen that some people were less excited for Little Mac because of how obvious he was, but even then Sakurai clearly went out of his way to make us doubt his inclusion. So rather than just leaving characters alone until their "obvious" debut, he seems to want to stir up doubt of their inclusion, thus increasing the hype when they finally are revealed. That or he just flat out de-confirms them, as was the case with Starfy, Skull Kid, Viridi, and Ashley.

This might very well be just a coincidence and not a trend, but the fact that we've seen this sort of pattern of creating doubt done with some of the other most wanted characters, specifically Ridley and Palutena, may suggest that he is, in fact, just making us question their presence so that when they do arrive, the excitement will be overwhelming.

Oh, and as for the Fire Emblem stage, I don't think it particularly lends itself to a specific character from Awakening. Well, it does suggest that AN Awakening character will be present, but who it would be is not inherently obvious based on the stage. My guess would go to either Chrom or Robin for that role. Chrom would be the obvious, expected choice, while Robin is the less expected but more unique choice.

EDIT: Woah, I just realized something. This might be a bit of a stretch, but the reveal of Lucario was taken by many to be a sign of Mewtwo not being in the game. This is probably getting a little too deep into conspiracy territory, but if Sakurai knew about how people thought Lucario replaced Mewtwo... Well, we'll just have to see, won't we?

 

[Dark Phazon]

If only this were to happen, would be so awesome! I'd also really appreciate a full-fledged Smash Bros Direct at some point, with lots and lots of gameplay footage, details about the game itself (mechanics and whatnot) and of course, something new to reveal!

E3 2014

 

[Hotfeet444]

What I have always especially admired from Metroid Fusion was how atmospherically disturbing the BSL Research Station's environment was. The classical horror elements of an good-quality sci-fi movie are all there - the ambient music which ranges from peaceful to unsettling, the prevalent theme of desolate isolation and self-preservation, and the metapopulation of violently dangerous animals infected by parasites. The worst among them, of course, being the predatory SA-X, whose ominous presence invokes spine-chilling fear.

While not exactly Dead Space (because why should it be?), Metroid Fusion does invoke a general feeling of inharmoniousness, uncommon in other Nintendo series. While not the absolute best Metroid game (a title usually bestowed on either Super or Prime), nonetheless it is still a great fun-inducing, adrenaline-pumping game. At the very least, that is my two cents on the subject.

I can agree, those SA-X running scenes were some of the most adrenaline-inducing gameplay I've ever seen, because if you so much as twitched in the wrong direction, the damn thing would be all over you and kill you in just a few hits. Not to mention it sets a tone set strongly by MegaMan X, the feeling of getting stronger. At the beginning of the game, if the SA-X so much as looked in your direction you were dead, you couldn't harm it, all you could do is run. Then, by the end of the game after you defeat Neo-Ridley and return the second last part of your weapon collection, the Screw Attack, you're finally set in a real duel against the SA-X, and you finally get to destroy it once and for all (Before it runs away and is later killed by the Omega Metroid, which is a VERY odd last boss considering the contrast it pulls with Alien Resurrection and that Metroids don't harm Samus thanks to she now has parts of their DNA inside her). It was so amazing to finally beat the crap out of the thing that gave me so much trouble.

 

[Anomilus]

I'd rather not Sheik be sacrificed for the sake of a Down B Phantom Knight Summon move. Besides, the Toon-verse design of the Knight is at odds with Zelda's TP-inspired design, so the moveset connection is strenuous. So it's either an Assist Trophy, or related to a Toonverse character (Toon Link, Tetra, etc.).

I actually wasn't implying that this affected Zelda/Shiek in anyway. It doesn't have to. I was actually implying Toon Zelda as her own character. Sure the Phantom Knight is rather detailed in contrast to the toon art style. But as you said, Phantom Knight is at odds with Zelda's TP-inspired designed. Just a bit odd that a character from the more cartoony Zelda games sports a very metallic surface.

Actually, looking at Toon Link's equipment, its metal portions have metallic surfaces as well. Toon Link is cartoony looking, but it isn't totally cel-shaded. The Phantom Knight's armor is consistent and thus the "Toon" art style remains consistent. Which means Phantom Knight belonging to Toon Zelda (not Zelda/Shiek) is somewhat plausible.

But it's there, and we have no explanation why it's there.

 

[Trigger123]

Ironically, Super Metroid is the game where, according to the timeline, Ridley dies for good, being succeeded by his clone in Other M, and the clone of his clone in Fusion.

honestly I believe that It's still the same ridley personality wise. His body might have been destroyed but he came back with the same mind set, cause in other m he seemed to know samus, and in fusion they transported his body there from other m and preserved it. I'm not saying your wrong but I'd much rather have the same personality all the way through.

Good morning all and WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM.

Remember this video? Look at the thumbs section, in less than 24 hours, they more than quadrupled the total amount of thumb downs and are literally ruining the reputation of my video.The comment section also got an overall increased flow in comments including "Stupid" and "***". Please, there isn't any time for Valentines Day Depression when I have to wake up to THIS. Please guys, help me get the thumbs back in the green.

Your video was good, I don't see how people could give it a thumbs down.

 

[Dark Phazon]

I actually wasn't implying that this affected Zelda/Shiek in anyway. It doesn't have to. I was actually implying Toon Zelda as her own character. Sure the Phantom Knight is rather detailed in contrast to the toon art style. But as you said, Phantom Knight is at odds with Zelda's TP-inspired designed. Just a bit odd that a character from the more cartoony Zelda games sports a very metallic surface.

But it's there, and we have no explanation why it's there.

Really?

I assumed it was a new move for Zelda and PeePz werent specualting/talking about it at all so i ''Assumed...lol (-_-)''

It was just a new (B) Attack for her.

And yes..before you say lol i know what they say about assumptions....but seriously that thing is there and no one knows why? (no legit info/evidence)

Holy ****..........0

 

[Sehnsucht]

I actually wasn't implying that this affected Zelda/Shiek in anyway. It doesn't have to. I was actually implying Toon Zelda as her own character. Sure the Phantom Knight is rather detailed in contrast to the toon art style. But as you said, Phantom Knight is at odds with Zelda's TP-inspired designed. Just a bit odd that a character from the more cartoony Zelda games sports a very metallic surface.

But it's there, and we have no explanation why it's there.

Who would want to play as Toon Zelda when you could play as Phantom Knight?

But back to Toon Ridley.

 

[AndreaAC]

One day I was able to enter Sakurai's Miiverse page with my computer strangely, and I saw Rosalina's page, and Sakurai show's what pictures are her actual moves....later i was not able to see it again....maybe with the Wii U you could check the page and look for Zelda's moves

 

[Anomilus]

I initially thought so as well that Zelda just got a new B move. And I still lean toward that possibility. The Assist Trophy thing just never made sense to me. No reason to just shove a never before seen Assist Trophy in the middle of a character reveal then proceed to say nothing about it while casually revealing other Assist Trophies over time.

But as I'm saying, perhaps we've all been had by the troll prince Sakurai himself. He very well may be having more fun with his fans than we know. Ridley may be part of this little game of his. I HOPE HE IS, 'CAUSE IF HE IS HINTING AT A PLAYABLE RIDLEY...

...I'll be pleasantly delighted. ^_^