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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

AndreaAC

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By any chance was there an Aurora Unit that was accessible by the pirates after the events of Prime 3? Either way, here's my thoughts on the idea:

- A badly injured but otherwise alive and no longer controlled Ridley struggles out of the Leviathan. Other pirates manage to recover him.
- Let's just assume one or two Galactic Federation soldiers were captured during the siege. Fed to Ridley, allowing him to regenerate his body just enough to resume command.
- Ridley somehow acquires an Aurora Unit at some point.
- With the GF now keeping a close eye on Pirate Homeworld because of the recent events, the Space Pirates are hindered from performing any major operations.
- An idea is then struck: Slowly and carefully allocate Pirates and resources to the previously abandoned and destroyed Planet Zebes base Tourian. Begin rebuilding of base.
- This project takes a considerable amount of time. Ridley eventually fully recovers, they succeed in establishing the Aurora Unit as the new Mother Brain and revive and designate Kraid as head of Zebes operations.
- During these events, Samus completes her mission of eradicating all Metroids on SR-388, save for the larva metroid.
- Due to GF staying so close to Pirate Homeworld, information about the larva metroid is leaked to the Pirates. Ridley is informed, and he enacts his own mission to assault Ceres Space Station and "acquire" the metroid larva for the Pirates purpose.

Maybe we could say that, due to the events of Prime 3, the metroids of Pirate Homeworld were ultimately lost which is why the Pirates would need to acquire a new "pure" Metroid.

Good? Nonsense? Useful? :p

Oh, and if the acquiring an Aurora Unit thing won't work, just say that the Pirates managed to gather (or steal) enough data to replicate the technology and create a new Mother Brain. Which would also explain why it's so ugly compared to the sleeker GF Aurora Units.
:D YOUR IDEAS ARE AWESOME! and one of them sounded a bit like my original idea.......well, mine's sounds a little bit stupid.....you see....my idea is, that after Samus overloaded him with Phazon and "exploded" he was badly injured, and he hided inside of one of the Leviathan's holes (that's why after Samus corruption increased, Ridley is gone, because, unlike Mogenar or Helios, it is never shown that he exploded into PIECES.) And after Samus destroyed the Seed's Core, Ridley remained hidden, and was completely in pain. He was hopping (even if he hate to admit it) that Samus would kick her Dark Clone's butt, and will put an end to the curse she put uppon him and his crew...but when Phaaze was dying, something wierd happened, and instead of healing, Ridley had a vision inside his head, he was in Phaaze itself, and one phazon tentacle held him, he was struggling, and another one touched his heart, and filled it with phazon....back to reality, Ridley was screaming in agony, and when the planet exploded, the pain stopped, but he never realized that the vision meant that the planet itself had chosen him to house its power before dying completely.

And the next thing is that the pirates found him, but the did not know that he was still "cursed", and Samus later found that he was not dead and the GF made a deal with her to hunt him down and bring it to them, because they were interested in him, since he is one of the most powerful beings in the Galaxy (For me...he's the most powerful in the UNIVERSE way before he created Samus and after he was cursed.)

Yeah....I know it is too wierd and it has no sense....

And I do not think Ridley likes that a Giant Squishy Brain and a Dark Clone of his Nemesis takes over his crew and mind controlling them, and make him second in command....and I think Ridley has the strongest free will and he is not controlled that easily, making it nearly imposible to achieve that....
 
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I call Vorash.

Though we should probably be on topic of Ridley rather than of other bosses.
 

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:D YOUR IDEAS ARE AWESOME! and one of them sounded a bit like my original idea.......well, mine's sounds a little bit stupid.....you see....my idea is, that after Samus overloaded him with Phazon and "exploded" he was badly injured, and he hided inside of one of the Leviathan's holes (that's why after Samus corruption increased, Ridley is gone, because, unlike Mogenar or Helios, it is never shown that he exploded into PIECES.) And after Samus destroyed the Seed's Core, Ridley remained hidden, and was completely in pain. He was hopping (even if he hate to admit it) that Samus would kick her Dark Clone's butt, and will put an end to the curse she put uppon him and his crew...but when Phaaze was dying, something wierd happened, and instead of healing, Ridley had a vision inside his head, he was in Phaaze itself, and one phazon tentacle held him, he was struggling, and another one touched his heart, and filled it with phazon....back to reality, Ridley was screaming in agony, and when the planet exploded, the pain stopped, but he never realized that the vision meant that the planet itself had chosen him to house its power before dying completely.

And the next thing is that the pirates found him, but the did not know that he was still "cursed", and Samus later found that he was not dead and the GF made a deal with her to hunt him down and bring it to them, because they were interested in him, since he is one of the most powerful beings in the Galaxy (For me...he's the most powerful in the UNIVERSE way before he created Samus and after he was cursed.)

Yeah....I know it is too wierd and it has no sense....

And I do not think Ridley likes that a Giant Squishy Brain and a Dark Clone of his Nemesis takes over his crew and mind controlling them, and make him second in command....and I think Ridley has the strongest free will and he is not controlled that easily, making it nearly imposible to achieve that....
Well it is a bit...interesting... :p You do have a more focused approach on characterizing Ridley himself. Which is good as that's your goal for the story. My idea mostly focused on tying the events of Prime to Super Metroid.



Hey guys if you're choosing bosses, then I'll be Crocomire instead. I've had a soft spot for him as well and used to draw him a lot when I was younger.

Or perhaps I should be Quadraxis.

..What? We're on topic! Our admiration for Ridley has us wanting to join his ranks and discard our human forms! :D
 

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Well it is a bit...interesting... :p You do have a more focused approach on characterizing Ridley himself. Which is good as that's your goal for the story. My idea mostly focused on tying the events of Prime to Super Metroid.



Hey guys if you're choosing bosses, then I'll be Crocomire instead. I've had a soft spot for him as well and used to draw him a lot when I was younger.

Or perhaps I should be Quadraxis.

..What? We're on topic! Our admiration for Ridley has us wanting to join his ranks and discard our human forms! :D
Yeah....that is my main focus, and he is already a god, but i wanted to make him a god that can make you disappear from existense by just touching you (He already does that....but Phazon does that a lot faster) and give him a chance to be WAY more powerful than Samus at least once...and obviously, Samus can't do nothing against him.., and judging the events, after he was defeated in his omega form, with Phaaze's destruction, he regained his organic tissue, then Metroid 2 happens (enough time for him to rest a little after all the ordeal) and then the events of Super Metroid....and for me the Original Ridley will never die....so, no Other M....
 
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I've already done one of those. Now I just have to close something.

Venus is also a Ridley supporter. So is Fal to a small extent.
So basically you guys are slowly infiltrating the ranks until we can change the site banner to Ridley?

Any way I can help?

Don't worry I typed that in font only Ridley supporters can read
 
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Can I be little birdie?

What kind of trophies do you guys want for Ridley and his various forms? Omega Ridley, Meta Ridley, and Fusion Ridley would all be really cool. Little Birdy as a trophy or sticker would be cool. Not sure what else.
 

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I wanna be ULF-68! :p

I've been gone for a day AND SUDDENLY 10 PAGES! And it sees I've missed lots of Prime discussions. My first was actually Zero Mission, then I played Fusion, still looking to play Super, but I've never played any of the Primes. I'm quite ashamed of it, but I suck at all things first-person shooter :c. I should try them at some point though... My boyfriend has the the full trilogy version thing so I could get it from him for free... Or perhaps try Other M even though most people didn't like it...

Ooh and for trophies I'd at least expect a standard Ridley and a Meta, maybe an Omega, I don't think they'll care to spread into 2D Ridley territory.
 

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I gotta higly disagree about this.

Metroid Prime 1 Soundtrack is a masterpiece, it blends so perfectly with the areas, it have some beautiful melodic pieces, and some haunting ambiental tracks.
I'm still frustrated that Prime music was mostly ignored in Brawl, no Phendrana Drifts, no Tallon Overworld, no Chozo Ruins, hell why would you put a Norfair stage and not put Magmoor Caverns theme(Lower Norfair)!?

I mean just hear this sci-fi heaven-crafted song:


Finally, Echoes soundtrack is way underrated.
It has such amazing pieces like Torvus Bogg, Sanctuary Fortress, Vs Dark Samus, Main Theme, Menu Theme, Luminoth Theme, Temple Grounds.
And nostalgic remixes like Torvus Catacombs(Brinstar Red), and Hunters (Brinstar Green).

MP2 music grows inside you with the time.
Hey man, I'm glad you like it! I'm just saying, I don't remember most of the music; it doesn't stick with me the way a lot of other games' music does. That's not to say it's bad (in fact, most of it is really good), it just doesn't stick in my brain much. Though Metroid's music is often more ambient than anything anyway. *shrugs* Seriously though, if it's memorable to you, that's great.

To be fair, the same can be said about underwater parts in the 2D games before getting the Gravity Suit (frustrating, etc. as far as movement's concerned), especially Super Metroid's Maridia.

I'm replaying Super Metroid right now, and I actually got the Gravity Suit before spending much time in Maridia. :p Your point is still valid, but you usually get the Gravity Suit before you're done with the damn area, whereas you get it at the very end of Torvus.
 

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I would a classic NES Ridley and the Other M one pointing out the difference between clone/Roidley and the original.
Imagine if in some weird Bad Box Art Megaman-like situation and we got playable Original Artwork Ridley instead of Ridley.

Can't even fathom how I would respond...
 
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In that case, we need to assign ourselves enemy aliases. Obviously Ridley is taken. By Ridley. I suppose the mods can be major bosses and premium members have the option of being mini-bosses or regular enemies.

I'll be a Gamma Metroid. I used to draw them often. :p
I CALL PIRATE TROOPER

TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBES
 

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This is going to be what Ridley supporters do to Sakurai if Ridley isn't in the game
 
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This is going to be what Ridley supporters do to Sakurai if Ridley isn't in the game
We already tried that after Brawl, but it turned into pure Dragon Ball and Sakurai just stood staring at us unimpressed once the smoke lifted. The following seconds weren't pretty.
 

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We already tried that after Brawl, but it turned into pure Dragon Ball and Sakurai just stood staring at us unimpressed once the smoke lifted. The following seconds weren't pretty.
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What if I told you, that was supposed to be the fans burning sakurai...
 

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We already tried that after Brawl, but it turned into pure Dragon Ball and Sakurai just stood staring at us unimpressed once the smoke lifted. The following seconds weren't pretty.
Pre-Brawl was Xerxes, Sakurai was the Homunculus, and the Smash fandom was Hohenheim.

He played us all for fools.
 
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We already tried that after Brawl, but it turned into pure Dragon Ball and Sakurai just stood staring at us unimpressed once the smoke lifted. The following seconds weren't pretty.
That's fine, we'll just blow up Japan...













...again.
But for the right reasons this time.
 
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I think Sakamoto abused the fact that Metroid was inspired by the Alien movies, I mean, naming the MOST ICONIC CHARACTER after the director Ridley Scott is awsome, but in other M, he had the "splendid" idea to give him an evolutionary line based shamelessly after the Xenomorphs evolutionary line ( I know they used that with the Metroids, but whatever...)...was that really necesary? A Bloodthristy Inmortal Intelligent Tactician God-like Space Dragon is already UNIQUE....It would have been better if at last the way he matures was like a normal dragon....from a cute chibi fat dragon to a beautiful and powerful anorexic one....

Well... that's talking about the ORIGINAL Ridley.....

because I can't make a picture in my head about a chibi Roidley.....
 
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I'm replaying Super Metroid right now, and I actually got the Gravity Suit before spending much time in Maridia. :p Your point is still valid, but you usually get the Gravity Suit before you're done with the damn area, whereas you get it at the very end of Torvus.
You've said this twice now, and I'm not sure where you're getting this idea from. Getting the Gravity Booster in Torvus Underwater Temple does not happen at the "very end". It's more like a midpoint for Torvus in general. In any case, I specifically recall that the first room of the Underwater temple is effectively designed to get the player to navigate as far down as possible with very minimal upward ascension required. It even provides a morph ball pressurized shaft to quickly move back to the top of the room. Once you activate a few switches, you go through a door at the bottom of the room, and from there it's a straightforward descent, and before you know it you find the Gravity Booster and all your water-logged mobility issues is over right there.

Then you fight the Alpha Blogg mini-boss. You certainly don't fight him without the Gravity Booster! But as said it's far from over after that.
 

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You've said this twice now, and I'm not sure where you're getting this idea from. Getting the Gravity Booster in Torvus Underwater Temple does not happen at the "very end". It's more like a midpoint for Torvus in general. In any case, I specifically recall that the first room of the Underwater temple is effectively designed to get the player to navigate as far down as possible with very minimal upward ascension required. It even provides a morph ball pressurized shaft to quickly move back to the top of the room. Once you activate a few switches, you go through a door at the bottom of the room, and from there it's a straightforward descent, and before you know it you find the Gravity Booster and all your water-logged mobility issues is over right there.

Then you fight the Alpha Blogg mini-boss. You certainly don't fight him without the Gravity Booster! But as said it's far from over after that.
There are very few times where you need to Gravity Booster before the Underwater Temple too, the only time where you really need it is when you're on your way to get it, otherwise I can think of only one instance where you had to go underwater before the Temple, and that doesn't last very long as it's just moving from one end to another. If any game ****ed up with the Gravity Suit, it's the first Prime, and that's only if you accidentally go into the Crashed Frigate without the Gravity Suit, which honestly shouldn't have been possible since it's such a huge time waste. Plus, the game straight up tells you you've ****ed up once you get far enough in the Crashed Frigate, but only when you can't get any further, instead of warning you before going into the Crashed Frigate, which really is just a big middle finger to the face. But yeah, that's only something that happens if you actually go that way, so it's no biggie anyways.
 
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Wow, it's felt like forever since I've stepped into this thread, well this time I have good reason to do so. Fellow Ridley supporters, I give you a diamond in the rough...
All problems solved, all outlooks straightened out, I've basically made the likes of people like Shokio and Nin10dohUltra look even more stupid then they truly are. Share this video, let people know and like this video, because I've personally gotten fed up with the incredibly high amounts of sheer stupidity.


Edit: I already have people messaging me that the arguments are destroyed and I'm "Exposed"...I'm losing faith in humanity each and every day...
Are you Felicia Fan444 ?
I'm a big fan of that channel (and of those drawings)
 

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You've said this twice now, and I'm not sure where you're getting this idea from. Getting the Gravity Booster in Torvus Underwater Temple does not happen at the "very end". It's more like a midpoint for Torvus in general. In any case, I specifically recall that the first room of the Underwater temple is effectively designed to get the player to navigate as far down as possible with very minimal upward ascension required. It even provides a morph ball pressurized shaft to quickly move back to the top of the room. Once you activate a few switches, you go through a door at the bottom of the room, and from there it's a straightforward descent, and before you know it you find the Gravity Booster and all your water-logged mobility issues is over right there.

Then you fight the Alpha Blogg mini-boss. You certainly don't fight him without the Gravity Booster! But as said it's far from over after that.
Frankly I'd forgotten everything after the Alpha Blogg, but looking over a walkthrough I suppose you're right. Nevertheless, I spent way more time being annoyed in the water than I would have liked before getting the Gravity Booster, activating all those switches to open the path. Maybe I explored off the path more than I should have, but I don't actually think I did anything unnecessary before getting it. Do you not have to go into other rooms before getting the Booster? Because I spent a lot of time exploring chambers off that main room you're describing.
 

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Wow, it's felt like forever since I've stepped into this thread, well this time I have good reason to do so. Fellow Ridley supporters, I give you a diamond in the rough...
All problems solved, all outlooks straightened out, I've basically made the likes of people like Shokio and Nin10dohUltra look even more stupid then they truly are. Share this video, let people know and like this video, because I've personally gotten fed up with the incredibly high amounts of sheer stupidity.


Edit: I already have people messaging me that the arguments are destroyed and I'm "Exposed"...I'm losing faith in humanity each and every day...

Hey, I should have asked this sooner, but where or how exactly did you come about those measurements of Ridley's height. I have to hope that these aren't just mere speculation. I know it's possible to figure out height measurements based on our knowledge of Samus's height and comparing each of her appearances to Ridley's appearances. But the video is lacking any citations. And that could very well be a weakpoint that you may want to cover ASAP.


Frankly I'd forgotten everything after the Alpha Blogg, but looking over a walkthrough I suppose you're right. Nevertheless, I spent way more time being annoyed in the water than I would have liked before getting the Gravity Booster, activating all those switches to open the path. Maybe I explored off the path more than I should have, but I don't actually think I did anything unnecessary before getting it. Do you not have to go into other rooms before getting the Booster? Because I spent a lot of time exploring chambers off that main room you're describing.
I'll have to watch a walkthrough to recall. I think you did go through another room, but mostly a couple simple corridors and a morph ball room. IIRC the switches had to be activated with the Scan Visor, and their position made it so it only worked when Samus stood directly in front of them. Still though it was minimal ascension required, and that tends to be more annoying than just going left or right.

But hey, sluggish is sluggish, and indeed that stuff pretty much stopped just before the Alpha Blogg fight. And WarioFan is right: Prime 1 was much worse and didn't mind allowing players to just wander about through water with no Gravity Suit.
 
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I'll have to watch a walkthrough to recall. I think you did go through another room, but mostly a couple simple corridors and a morph ball room. IIRC the switches had to be activated with the Scan Visor, and their position made it so it only worked when Samus stood directly in front of them. Still though it was minimal ascension required, and that tends to be more annoying than just going left or right.

But hey, sluggish is sluggish, and indeed that stuff pretty much stopped just before the Alpha Blogg fight. And WarioFan is right: Prime 1 was much worse and didn't mind allowing players to just wander about through water with no Gravity Suit.

Nah, it was more complex than that, I'm almost positive. There were at least three switches you had to activate, and you did have to stand in front of all of them, so there were a few rooms you had to travel through to get around.

The difference between the two is I liked Prime 1's water area way more. :p I was wrong about where you got the Gravity Booster in relation to the rest of Torvus Bog, but I still can't stand the area. But yeah, I'll admit the design could've been a little clearer. I don't love any water area, really.
 
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