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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

Reila

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Sehnsucht said:
I thought the fade-in is supposed to be a reference to the early Metroid games, in which his eyes appear, followed by the remainder of his body. So it would be fitting on that front.

A strong alternative is to have the Little Birdie appear on screen, which then poofs into the Mystery Creature, before finally poofing once more into Ridley proper. :troll:

EDIT: 111 posts. Palindromes are hawt.
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Hoooooooly ****, how could I forget one of the most memorable moments in Super Metroid.

Yup, that is the perfect entrance indeed.
 
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@ Dark Phazon Dark Phazon
Why is there no trace of the words "Real" and "Talk" in your post?
And I'm sure if Ridley is playable you among many others will never give up until he is unlocked.
Even if you can't do the quick task, you can always play like 300 Smash matches.
 
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Swampasaur said:
And as Ridley shows...

Size matters... :troll:
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That's pretty funny, when you consider that Toobigots are concerned that the purple dragon won't fit inside their Smash.

Swampasaur said:
So.... Codecs for Ridley?
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As an MGS fan, I evidently support Snake's return in SSB4.

Ridley codecs would be hilarious.

"Otacon...Are you seeing this?"

"Forget Metal Gear, Snake." *adjusts glasses* "This... is a thing of beauty."

Meta Ridley Solid for 2017.
 
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Swampasaur said:
So.... Codecs for Ridley?
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"Colonel, what the hell is that thing!?"
"That appears to be Ridley. He's an elite member of the feared invader organization, the Space Pirates."
"Pfft, Space Pirates? Really? He he..."
"Don't let its name amuse you, Snake. They have been known to invade multiple sectors across the galaxy thanks to their ruthless determination and beyond amazing technology. And Ridley happens to be one of the most feared of the loot."
"Really now? That thing looks so malnourished, it's a wonder it can stand up a fight. And where is its captain hat?"
"Appearances can be deceiving, Snake. He alone could wipe out an entire Earth colony; he's the one responsible of the murder of Samus' parents! The very thought of this inhuman creature in our world simply makes me... Snake, what are you snickering about?"
"Sorry. I was about to ask if they all reunite in a ship, dressed in sailor suits, and go "YO HO HO!" during the whole trip"
"... You're not taking this situation so seriously, now are you?"
 
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SchAlternate said:
"Colonel, what the hell is that thing!?"
"That appears to be Ridley. He's an elite member of the feared invader organization, the Space Pirates."
"Pfft, Space Pirates? Really? He he..."
"Don't let its name amuse you, Snake. They have been known to invade multiple sectors across the galaxy thanks to their ruthless determination and beyond amazing technology. And Ridley happens to be one of the most feared of the loot."
"Really now? That thing looks so malnourished, it's a wonder it can stand up a fight. And where is its captain hat?"
"Appearances can be deceiving, Snake. He alone could wipe out an entire Earth colony; he's the one responsible of the murder of Samus' parents! The very thought of this inhuman creature in our world simply makes me... Snake, what are you snickering about?"
"Sorry. I was about to ask if they all reunite in a ship, dressed in sailor suits, and go "YO HO HO!" during the whole trip"
"... You're not taking this situation so seriously, now are you?"
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YES!
 
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Louie G. said:
@ Dark Phazon Dark Phazon
Why is there no trace of the words "Real" and "Talk" in your post?
And I'm sure if Ridley is playable you among many others will never give up until he is unlocked.
Even if you can't do the quick task, you can always play like 300 Smash matches.
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The words must not be thrown around like cliche...otherwise they would lose all magical feel and meaning and people would just think they are a mindless, stupid boring un original catchphrase that i use to try save face and how to cling on to develop some sort of character on these boards.

Because majority of what i say is either sarcastic/trolling or in formative to the subject at hand at the time and to use humor to be loved to shield my horrible grammar etc:

Hey ! Hehehe im sure none of you think of me that way right?

(seriously believe me or not most of it is either

1. I cant be asked
2. I find it abit diificult to express what i wanna say exzactly in words
3. My Phone is really annoying...

#3 is why #1...)

Atleast im not rude and love other peoples insights and even if i dont agree or like someones opnion i wont attack em.

Im a nice guy even though im from the Horrible streets of London.

RealTalk
 
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Reila said:
I am pretty sure someone at Nintendo recorded the sounds of hell to use as Ridley's cry in Metroid Zero Mission/Fusion.
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Why cant they just bring ZM & Fusion to Wii U VC for.....sake.......im waiting...please???

@SchAlternate:That was a good one LmAooo
 
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I'd say having a good looking stance and a decent looking walk/run.
I mean, he could be quad all the time, or only when running. He could have a slouched posture if standing on his legs, sort of like a hunchback
Also, what about his various "poses" if you will? Like getting grabbed, sent flying, grabbing a ledge, grabbing people, prat/face plant, etc. Ridley's quite the lanky character, even with his bulkier appearance from Other M
 
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I think the main thing getting in Ridley's way is that he would be difficult to program.
He's a big character who looks unlike any character we've seen so far.
He'd take quite a bit of work, so hopefully Sakurai finds it worth it.
 
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Louie G. said:
I think the main thing getting in Ridley's way is that he would be difficult to program.
He's a big character who looks unlike any character we've seen so far.
He'd take quite a bit of work, so hopefully Sakurai finds it worth it.
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Its kinda funny/weired though because yes i get what you mean but we dont know exzactly how hard of a time Sakurai might have had while developing anyone of the characters that have been in Smash.

Im sure hes like master pro and can do anything if he wanted to now..i mean he done fox and falcon from scratch and imo it looks like he put alot of work into Snake and ofc PKMN Trainer.

I dont see all that stuff as a issue for Ridley anymore....come to think if it...i just think its a roll of the dice to be honest.

What Sakurai wants...we get....
 
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El Fonz0 said:
I'd say having a good looking stance and a decent looking walk/run.
I mean, he could be quad all the time, or only when running. He could have a slouched posture if standing on his legs, sort of like a hunchback
Also, what about his various "poses" if you will? Like getting grabbed, sent flying, grabbing a ledge, grabbing people, prat/face plant, etc. Ridley's quite the lanky character, even with his bulkier appearance from Other M
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Pretty easy overall.

Getting Grabbed: Gets pulled down and struggles to get out of the opponent's grip. Tail smacks the ground angrily as he tries to push himself off the opponent's grip.
Sent Flying: Basically the same as any other character, spinning fetal position when falling, spiraling away when smashed at high damaged.
Grabbing People: Grabs with both hands, bites to pummel
Prat/face plant: Falls with legs tucked up close to abdomen, his arms out. When on back, has knees up and tail curved around his body in a circle rather than out flat.

And adding in a couple of mine...

Shield Break: On knees, has hands on head and shakes it from side to side slowly, trying to snap himself out of the stun state.
Normal Hits: bends down slightly farther in flinching pain, can also lean back to make him a bigger target on certain accounts.

And of course, the stance is akin to this quick sketch I made:
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Louie G. said:
There we go.

So about Ridley, what do you guys think are the obstacles standing in his way?
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Eh if there were any obstacles that I feel genuinely stand in Ridley's way, I'd say it's Sakurai's personal view of Ridley's star power.

We consider Ridley pretty much an A-lister of Nintendo characters and an all-star on or close to the same levels as villains like Bowser and Ganondorf. I'm just not entirely convinced Sakurai feels the same. Yeah he did give Ridley two considerable roles for Brawl. Then again, Petey Piranha and Rayquaza were also bosses. Petey's more of a B-list Mario character even after his several future appearances, and Rayquaza... yeah.

Maybe with Other M however Sakurai may have finally seen Ridley for who he really is in relation to the Metroid series. Hopefully he doesn't see Ridley as a just a big monster who just happens to show up a lot. At the same time, it seems quite a number of people do see Ridley as just that: one of many boss monsters that's just there to die to Samus each game. So that leads to another potential obstacle: Is Ridley truly popular enough to warrant a playable status. We make a big fuss over him. We and the detractors are really ultimately one big loud vocal minority yelling "RIDLEYRIDLEYRIDLEYRIDLEY", regardless of the alliance of each individual voice.

...But is it enough? I'd like to believe that Sakurai is paying attention. I'd like to believe that, regardless of the love or hate for Ridley, the sheer amount of activity Ridley generates would be enough to suggest that Ridley's inclusion would most certainly generate a LOT of buzz. And I sure it can. However, Sakurai could very well conclude that it's all just that: a loud vocal minority, and making him playable would only excite that group while the much larger quiet majority would give Ridley's inclusion a considerably cold reception. Could you imagine?

Loud vocal minority - "RIDLEY'S IN! OH WOW IT HAPPENED! RIDELY'S IN!!"
Quiet majority - "...oh him? Who's he again?"

That's how I see it. Can only hope for the best. Heck, Sakurai could decide not to make him playable and unknowingly miss a huge opportunity where the quiet majority excitedly embraced Ridley with open arms.
 
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Louie G. said:
I think the main thing getting in Ridley's way is that he would be difficult to program.
He's a big character who looks unlike any character we've seen so far.
He'd take quite a bit of work, so hopefully Sakurai finds it worth it.
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In all seriousness, that's really the only viable part of the too big argument. His large proportions, namely his tail and wings, would be difficult to properly animate. Perhaps the 3DS could also create hardware limitations. However, for the sake of having such an iconic Nintendo character, I don't think they'd let a little technical challenge stop them. If they can make a complex character like Rosalina and Luma work, I think Ridley wouldn't be too much of a stretch.
 
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:/ sometimes im too hard with myself, im a perfectionist....and because of that, im not satisfied with my own work, even if other people say it is Ok, nice, excellent , etc.....and well it is one of my future personal proyects, but im not an expert yet.....and yeah, i have seen that beautiful Ridley sculpture before, but he made it using a 3D modeling program....while me, i may use the traditional method, using some kind of clay and sculpting them with my own hands....and the idea of mass producing the sounds nice, but maybe too expensive....and of course, i cant believe they made figures of them and not Ridley, maybe because he is a Villain, but that makes no sense, since Ridley is the 2nd MOST ICONIC CHARACTER in the Metroid series.....

About the comic.....i have some wicked stories in mind.....and the way i would like to draw it....is to be as acurate as posible to prime's style of art.....or something like that......Im hoping that one day, my fear to fail on it goes away and be able to do it and post it here......but only time will tell....

:) and thank you, if inspiration and time comes to me, i will start drawing it into my wall..........
 
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AndreaAC said:
@Ridley_Prime

:/ sometimes im too hard with myself, im a perfectionist....and because of that, im not satisfied with my own work, even if other people say it is Ok, nice, excellent , etc.....and well it is one of my future personal proyects, but im not an expert yet.....and yeah, i have seen that beautiful Ridley sculpture before, but he made it using a 3D modeling program....while me, i may use the traditional method, using some kind of clay and sculpting them with my own hands....and the idea of mass producing the sounds nice, but maybe too expensive....and of course, i cant believe they made figures of them and not Ridley, maybe because he is a Villain, but that makes no sense, since Ridley is the 2nd MOST ICONIC CHARACTER in the Metroid series.....

About the comic.....i have some wicked stories in mind.....and the way i would like to draw it....is to be as acurate as posible to prime's style of art.....or something like that......Im hoping that one day, my fear to fail on it goes away and be able to do it and post it here......but only time will tell....

:) and thank you, if inspiration and time comes to me, i will start drawing it into my wall..........
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Well imo he is the #1 most iconic

Its abit like Pokemon
Sure people love praise pikachu like hes the mascott but then theres the actual trainer.....but pikachu does all the work and stuff right?
 
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AndreaAC said:
@Ridley_Prime

:/ sometimes im too hard with myself, im a perfectionist....and because of that, im not satisfied with my own work, even if other people say it is Ok, nice, excellent , etc.....and well it is one of my future personal proyects, but im not an expert yet.....and yeah, i have seen that beautiful Ridley sculpture before, but he made it using a 3D modeling program....while me, i may use the traditional method, using some kind of clay and sculpting them with my own hands....and the idea of mass producing the sounds nice, but maybe too expensive....and of course, i cant believe they made figures of them and not Ridley, maybe because he is a Villain, but that makes no sense, since Ridley is the 2nd MOST ICONIC CHARACTER in the Metroid series.....

About the comic.....i have some wicked stories in mind.....and the way i would like to draw it....is to be as acurate as posible to prime's style of art.....or something like that......Im hoping that one day, my fear to fail on it goes away and be able to do it and post it here......but only time will tell....

:) and thank you, if inspiration and time comes to me, i will start drawing it into my wall..........
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MORE LIKE IMMORTAL!
 
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Capcom managed to make Red Arremer work just fine as a fighting game character, I am sure Sora Ltd. can do the same, if they want.
 
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Dark Phazon said:
Well imo he is the #1 most iconic

Its abit like Pokemon
Sure people love praise pikachu like hes the mascott but then theres the actual trainer.....but pikachu does all the work and stuff right?
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You are right,...He is #1 to us.....but for the rest of the world....Samus is #1......
 
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False Sense said:
In all seriousness, that's really the only viable part of the too big argument. His large proportions, namely his tail and wings, would be difficult to properly animate. Perhaps the 3DS could also create hardware limitations. However, for the sake of having such an iconic Nintendo character, I don't think they'd let a little technical challenge stop them. If they can make a complex character like Rosalina and Luma work, I think Ridley wouldn't be too much of a stretch.
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The tail yes, but the wings? Ridley has quite the small wings in the side scroller games. The wings are massive in the Prime series and Other M. Sakurai could just use one of Ridley's designs featured in the side scroller games and the "big wings" issue would be history.
 
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