Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Dark Phazon]

His statement was more along the lines of "Why not make him playable if he had a model made for said character?" AKA stupidity.

Owwww.........................how he said it....it sounded like a Fact...(-_-)

 

[CardiganBoy]

Oh man.

Imagine Shokio's and Nin10doUltra's reaction when Ridley becomes playable.

Man, I'll spam their videos with a buttload of "IN YOUR FACE!" kinds of comments...

Yeah that's why we want a Delicius Tears image starring Ridley, please make it.

 

[Anomilus]

Another thing I want to bring up people.


*ahem*


Download any Anti-Ridley Youtube videos that surface!

On the chance that we get our day and Ridley really does become playable, I can bet you these people will be deleting any comments they can, turning off comments in their videos, and even removing their videos from their channels in order to hide their foolishness.

Don't let that happen. Acquire a record of their failure so that the public will know and understand what happened during these times.


...Just in case though.

 

[Sonicguy726]

Check out my ridley moveset:
http://sonicguy726.deviantart.com/art/Super-Smash-Bros-for-Wii-U-3DS-Ridley-Moveset-433649695

 

[Hotfeet444]

Check out my ridley moveset:
http://sonicguy726.deviantart.com/art/Super-Smash-Bros-for-Wii-U-3DS-Ridley-Moveset-433649695

It's not a bad moveset, has a few similarities with my own. I feel that Ridley needs something more to pull him away from other characters in terms of standing out, which is why I added in the ability for prolonged hovering/flight.

Speaking of which, since it's been a while since I've been a regular on this thread, you've all most likely yet to see my moveset for our dear Space Pirate leader. Well, here it is:

 

[Anomilus]

@ Hotfeet444 - I posted earlier to day about your video (and also posted about it in the comments section on the video page).

Could you explain and cite where and/or how you came up on Ridley's proposed heights relative to each game he's been? I'm sure is has to do with recognizing Samus's official height and making comparisons, but it would be good if you gave tangible evidence to support those figures. Not as much for me but for other people who would watch the video.

Truth be told I posted the video for some people and that question came up pretty quickly. I think it's a fair question.

Uh... Sorry if I'm hounding you with this issue Hotfeet444... but even after I just posted this you've not said a word... Neither here or in the Youtube comments. o_O

If you can't directly address the question at hand right now that's fine. But some response would be appreciated.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Uh... Sorry if I'm hounding you with this issue Hotfeet444... but even after I just posted this you've not said a word... Neither here or in the Youtube comments. o_O

If you can't directly address the question at hand right now that's fine. But some response would be appreciated.

Sorry, I must've missed it. Anyways, for the 2D Sprite games, it was simple as taking said sprites and making it so they both stood at their proper standing heights. The 3D games were a bit more difficult, seeing as it was going off of more of a perspective guestimation, but it was basically taking the view of how Samus views Ridley when they're right next to one another, take said height, look at Ridley's model, then add onto it. Except for Other M, where the models for both Ridley and Samus were perfectly ported at the same size to Gmod and Source Film Maker so I could put both of them right next to one another and get the right size, which was around 12'+ which means not exactly 12 feet but having a few inches added in as well.

 

[Anomilus]

Sorry, I must've missed it. Anyways, for the 2D Sprite games, it was simple as taking said sprites and making it so they both stood at their proper standing heights. The 3D games were a bit more difficult, seeing as it was going off of more of a perspective guestimation, but it was basically taking the view of how Samus views Ridley when they're right next to one another, take said height, look at Ridley's model, then add onto it. Except for Other M, where the models for both Ridley and Samus were perfectly ported at the same size to Gmod and Source Film Maker so I could put both of them right next to one another and get the right size, which was around 12'+ which means not exactly 12 feet but having a few inches added in as well.

Thanks for the reply. I figured that's what you did, but maybe you ought to add this information to the About section of your video and direct people to it with an annotation during that part of your video. So people know you're not just pulling numbers out of the air.

 

[Mega Dunsparce]

lets bomb Shokio's comment sections with his video.

Oh and thanks, i think my speakers just broke, the same with my ears.

You're welcome.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

I love how he says Ridley has a long neck and is really skinny while showing off Other M Ridley who does not have a long neck as isn't really skinny.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Well un ridley related but

For people who don't know hype bomb

A NINTENDO DIRECT IS TOMORROW

 

[SchAlternate]

Well un ridley related but

For people who don't know hype bomb

A NINTENDO DIRECT IS TOMORROW

Wasn't it Friday?

 

[Starcutter]

Wasn't it Friday?

no, tomorrow.


at least, I think so.

 

[AnOkayDM]

It's tomorrow, I can confirm that.

 

[nessokman]

Found another "Ridley fans if Ridley isn't in smash bros" gif.

 

[FinalStarmen]

On the chance that we get our day and Ridley really does become playable, I can bet you these people will be deleting any comments they can, turning off comments in their videos, and even removing their videos from their channels in order to hide their foolishness.
Don't let that happen. Acquire a record of their failure so that the public will know and understand what happened during these times.

Unfortunately, this is a razor-sharp sword that swings both ways, and it will leave bodily damage (for the most part).

If Ridley is disconfirmed (come hell and high water), I will remove my presence from this forum for quite a while; not so much because of Ridley's relegation to a supporting role, but rather because of the incoming flood of obnoxiously off-putting "I told you so!" responses from the Too-Bigot brigade, who will never allow the support-base to live down such an infamous moment. To put it ever so lightly, it will be annoyingly ****.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Found another "Ridley fans if Ridley isn't in smash bros" gif.

Sakurai turns into a FEMALE titan?

 

[LiteTheIronMan]

Sakurai turns into a FEMALE titan?

nah we just all become Levi

 

[afrozenaer0]

So what do people think about the possibility of Ridley being revealed at the direct tomorrow?

 

[8-peacock-8]

nah we just all become Levi

So we attack a random female titan for no reason?

Ok. Better go get the maneuver gear.

 

[SchAlternate]

So what do people think about the possibility of Ridley being revealed at the direct tomorrow?

Chances are not quite high, to be fair. We'll most likely get a Kong/K. Rool.

 

[AnOkayDM]

So what do people think about the possibility of Ridley being revealed at the direct tomorrow?

Highly unlikely, I feel, unless there's a Metroid announcement.

 

[afrozenaer0]

Chances are not quite high, to be fair. We'll most likely get a Kong/K. Rool.

I wonder if we will get two character reveals tomorrow. Like maybe diddy in the morning and K Rool in at the direct?

 

[FinalStarmen]

So what do people think about the possibility of Ridley being revealed at the direct tomorrow?

E3 2014 seems to be the most optimal course of action in which to reveal the hype-inducing juggernaut that is Ridley (if he is to be playable this time around).

 

[Ridley_Prime]

:/ exactly....i need to appreciate my efforts.....and i have seen people that have sculpted Omega Ridley, but for some odd reason, they never finished him.....and as you may have noticed, i like that design a lot, i do not know why.....maybe it's because of its complexity (yeah...i like to make my life complicated.)...and im going to start modeling an Art Toy for an school proyect...alongside with my Anubis bust.....it will be the second time i sculpt something.....

Oh, and im open for suggestions! It would be nice if you guys told me some good ideas for a comic about Ridley!

And yeah....it may be Meta or Omega.....(probably Omega...DAMN.....I love it)....I may use the Manga as a base....and im gonna to make him TALK....not just.....RAWR...

Maybe I will try to explain what happened to him after he suposedly exploded with Phazon energy....obviously, he did not....not like Helios or Mogenar......and have you read "Another Side Story"? the prime trilogy from a pirates point of view.....it is on the Metroid Database....i will take inspiration from it too.

Oh yeah, I saw that sculpted Omega Ridley you were talking about on deviantart which I never saw the rest of. Maybe the person ran out of resources/funds/budget as far as finishing it? I dunno, but it's weird how that kinda turned out.

Omega Ridley in general is not my favorite design.. which is surprising given my namesake. I imagined a Phazon-ized Ridley awhile before Prime 3 was even out (pretty much how I first came up with my username on another site, lol), and Omega Ridley I felt wasn't blue enough like your typical Phazon bosses (think Omega Pirate for instance, which I think Omega Ridley should've been more like in design), and he didn't use enough Phazon-based attacks, to my disappointment (if he had had more of that at least I would've been more forgiving of his sluggishness in that battle and everything else). Regardless though I see where you're coming from on the complexity of its design, compared to the other Ridley forms anyway. Yeah, liking to make your life complicated is definitely you , not that that's always a bad thing.

As for suggestions/ideas on a comic, well aside from explaining what happened with him between Prime 3 and Super Metroid which you already brought up, maybe try to explain or come up with a scenario where the real Ridley is still alive after Super. With his ability to heal himself from consuming corpses, whose to say he didn't consume some of his space pirate brethren that Samus killed on her way to him and narrowly got off Zebes before it exploded? (before someone brings up the fact we saw his in-game sprite explode to pieces in Super, the same thing happened to him with like every other defeat) Granted, it's farfetched, but Samus's statement in Other M's prologue about him being dead for good or whatever felt like just an assumption more than anything else.

And yeah, I saw that "side story" from a Prime trilogy pirate's perspective on MDB quite awhile back. Don't remember nearly as much about it now but it was... interesting. I remember seeing the pirate side story image under a "coming soon" banner on like the official Metroid site way back when, which got me thinking at the time that it'd might be a new spinoff game Retro would make sometime after Prime 3, with the way it looked like it was being advertised at first anyway. Boy, was I wrong and disappointed...

Let's play Flappy Ridley is TOO BIG
http://apps.apolinariopassos.com.br/flappygenerator/flappy-ridley-is-too-big/

..... How do you play that flash game? Don't quite understand the controls for it. Kinda reminds me of a flash game I once saw with Ridley's Super Metroid sprite way back when (and no, it wasn't Mugen or anything).

I'm replaying Super Metroid right now, and I actually got the Gravity Suit before spending much time in Maridia. Your point is still valid, but you usually get the Gravity Suit before you're done with the damn area, whereas you get it at the very end of Torvus.

Well okay, I guess the underwater bits you have to explore in Fusion before facing Nightmare and getting back the Gravity Suit would be a better example of gravity-hindering phases you have to go through in the sidescrollers than Maridia, since like you pointed out, you can get the Gravity Suit in Super before even going there. xD

Don't remember how long that particular area in Torvus was now before getting the gravity boost. Just recall how much a pain the Alpha Blogg boss was right after getting it. Had even more trouble with that first time than the Boost Guardian, surprisingly.

Ha. Speedrunning Metroid Fusion multiple times has basically render me immune to that.

Same here. Speedrun-wise Fusion's one of my most replayed Metroid games, along with the 1st Prime of course.

Oh, and I call dibs on the stealthy Shadow Pirates that hang from ceilings like ninjas...

 

[AnOkayDM]

Well okay, I guess the underwater bits you have to explore in Fusion before facing Nightmare and getting back the Gravity Suit would be a better example of gravity-hindering phases you have to go through in the sidescrollers than Maridia, since like you pointed out, you can get the Gravity Suit in Super before even going there. xD

Heh, that's a better example, but even in Fusion it's not as bad as it was in the Prime games.

Don't remember how long that particular area in Torvus was now before getting the gravity boost. Just recall how much a pain the Alpha Blogg boss was right after getting it. Had even more trouble with that first time than the Boost Guardian, surprisingly.

Whoa, really? I think that only took me two tries, while the Boost Guardian was at least...oooh, five or six?

 

[Reila]

So what do people think about the possibility of Ridley being revealed at the direct tomorrow?

It may happen, if there is a Metroid announcement.

If a new Metroid isn't announced, then we might see Ridley only at E3 (if he is in the game) and if they finally announce the game there.

 

[yosharioIII]

I'd like to say this...when I eventually get into Videogame design in the next few years, I will say that I want to create a small side-project styled like that of the "Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World" side-scrolling beat em up game, and basically call it "Rise of the too-bigots". Take about five-six different people on this forum, turn them into playable characters, and basically go through different levels and take on different bosses based on the biggest Ridley detractors on the internet, Shokio being the final boss. Basically, we're on a mission to free Ridley and the proper logic on Smash 4 from the too-bigots who've taken our favorite Space Alien hostage thanks to their terrible logic and brainwashing the masses to believe the same. With all that, this 8-10 level game features special attacks and fighting styles for each playable character. And basically at the end, Shokio and the too-bigots are defeated and Sakurai comes out and gives Ridley his invitation to Smash Bros 4 to be a playable character...I just thought this up out of nowhere, but would be hilarious.

This is probably the ost beautiful thing I ever seen~!

And to that Shokio vid... Ugh. Just I don't know man... If there's anything I learned from that comment argument with that guy who just wanted to argue over the meanings of the word "fact" and f*cking "opinion", is that these people can't be reasoned with. Level-headed people can handle irrational people. But not convince them. Still gonna comment on that vid though.

 

[BKupa666]

Speaking of Ridley incoming...you guys want a laugh? Watch this...

I swear, it's as if he gets stupider every single video he makes, literally going on to make a reply video to my video WITHOUT even watching it to see that his points were all literally proven moot. Oh and thumb up my comment in said video if you can, bring some light on the fact that some people on youtube have some level of intelligence.

Video contents: RIDLEY IS TOO BIG CAN'T WORK PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD DRAGON ANATOMY BIG AS S*** NOPE

Video title: "Why Ridley Shouldn't Be In Smash"

Shouldn't =/= Can't

Never change, King of Contradiction.

 

[Empyrean]

Like do these people even play Metroid?? When the **** did they start thinking that Ridley's size is what makes his character? Because obviously when you are arguably the smallest boss in the entire franchise, you can't fit in Smash. I don't usually impose a style of playing a game, but if that's what these people are thinking when they get to the Ridley boss fight, instead of "damn, this mofo's freaking fast" or "**** dat tail", then they are playing the game wrong.

I haven't even watched one of these videos, I'm just assuming what these people are saying.

 

[AndreaAC]

Oh yeah, I saw that sculpted Omega Ridley you were talking about on deviantart which I never saw the rest of. Maybe the person ran out of resources/funds/budget as far as finishing it? I dunno, but it's weird how that kinda turned out.

Omega Ridley in general is not my favorite design.. which is surprising given my namesake. I imagined a Phazon-ized Ridley awhile before Prime 3 was even out (pretty much how I first came up with my username on another site, lol), and Omega Ridley I felt wasn't blue enough like your typical Phazon bosses (think Omega Pirate for instance, which I think Omega Ridley should've been more like in design), and he didn't use enough Phazon-based attacks, to my disappointment (if he had had more of that at least I would've been more forgiving of his sluggishness in that battle and everything else). Regardless though I see where you're coming from on the complexity of its design, compared to the other Ridley forms anyway. Yeah, liking to make your life complicated is definitely you , not that that's always a bad thing.

As for suggestions/ideas on a comic, well aside from explaining what happened with him between Prime 3 and Super Metroid which you already brought up, maybe try to explain or come up with a scenario where the real Ridley is still alive after Super. With his ability to heal himself from consuming corpses, whose to say he didn't consume some of his space pirate brethren that Samus killed on her way to him and narrowly got off Zebes before it exploded? (before someone brings up the fact we saw his in-game sprite explode to pieces in Super, the same thing happened to him with like every other defeat) Granted, it's farfetched, but Samus's statement in Other M's prologue about him being dead for good or whatever felt like just an assumption more than anything else.

And yeah, I saw that "side story" from a Prime trilogy pirate's perspective on MDB quite awhile back. Don't remember nearly as much about it now but it was... interesting. I remember seeing the pirate side story image under a "coming soon" banner on like the official Metroid site way back when, which got me thinking at the time that it'd might be a new spinoff game Retro would make sometime after Prime 3, with the way it looked like it was being advertised at first anyway. Boy, was I wrong and disappointed...

There is two sculptures of him, one that was going to be in a static pose, and the other one i think, was going to be an action figure ( O___O NINTENDO WHY U CAN'T DO THAT?!), the action figure was pretty big, the artist did the head and was going to start with the body, but i think the last thing he said about it, was that the clay was too old,... and the last thing he did was a Samus action figure (that was awsome.... A LOT better than Other M's figma), the other one, the artist WAS NEARLY AT THE POINT OF FINISHING HIM, i think she only needed to add the wings and painting it, the body was complete, it had a lot of details, but i think she stopped because she wanted to use a more transparent ressin for his wings or something like that.....

About the design, I remeber to have watched an Animation demo reel, by one of the animators that worked on prime 3 and many other games, and there was a part of the video that showed the scene where you encounter Ridley on the leviathan, but it was the Meta form instead of Omega. I think that the Meta form was originaly be the one that showed that caracteristic of the phazon bosses (being blue), and ironicaly, the Omega form shows his metal inplants and part of his organic tissue...but i think there is an explanation behind that, like, when Ridley entered on the leviathan, he absorbed a great amount of phazon, including the one that was his phazon amorskin, and that's why he shows his organic body and implants....

And About the comic, i also tought of that, to tell how the Original Ridley survives Zebes' explosion, and exactly...even if the game showed him blowing up into pieces. it can not be taken too seriously...he could have faked dead and fall into the lava of Lower Norfair in his lair (but as a dragon makes him being invulnerable to it)...waited to Samus to go away, and then he scapes, eating everything he found in his way to heal his wounds, and I think he knew that if MB was defeated, the planet was going to blow up....maybe he was able to fly far enough by himself or using a ship....

Even if it was not a game, i founded it fun to read, specially the part where te pirate says that the metroids should suck the heads of the ones at High Command so that they can make some wise decisions.......

And yes.....Making my life complicated is definitely me....and I know it is not always a bad thing, but sometimes it is frustrating....

 

[AustarusIV]

Like do these people even play Metroid?? When the **** did they start thinking that Ridley's size is what makes his character? Because obviously when you are arguably the smallest boss in the entire franchise, you can't fit in Smash. I don't usually impose a style of playing a game, but if that's what these people are thinking when they get to the Ridley boss fight, instead of "damn, this mofo's freaking fast" or "**** dat tail", then they are playing the game wrong.

I haven't even watched one of these videos, I'm just assuming what these people are saying.

I'm sorry to say this, but there are actually Metroid fans out there who genuinely think Ridley is all about being huge. Just go to the Metroid Database and you'll find Too Bigots there as well.

There were even a few people who suggested Adam. I think Adam is probably the only newcomer who would provoke booing rather than cheering.

 

[SchAlternate]

Video contents: RIDLEY IS TOO BIG CAN'T WORK PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD DRAGON ANATOMY BIG AS S*** NOPE

Video title: "Why Ridley Shouldn't Be In Smash"

Shouldn't =/= Can't

Never change, King of Contradiction.

Your post inspired me to ask Shokio a very interesting question.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

What's the question?

 

[AEMehr]

What's the question?

I was actually holding hopes for this video. The title flat out says "why it shouldn't", so maybe you may have had more of an argument than your overused "why it can't".

You know, if you really want to get technical, any character CAN enter the fray. Anyone. Just make a moveset, add some palettes, and done. You can basically fit in any character in the freaking universe. Ridley can fit in, Magneto can fit, Hulk can get in, the Pringles Mascot can get in, anyone. (Stick with on this one)... But that doesn't necessarily mean anyone SHOULD.

This is the thing most people tend to overlook; the "should" part. Sakurai can fit any character he pleases, regardless of series, importance, relevance or size; if anything is in the way on the process of including the character, he'll just find a way to overcome the obstacle. But he must consider if the character should be in; if all the struggle required would be worth it, if the character in question actually meets the criteria that one should require to enter Smash.

THAT is the question you should ask. It's not about "This guy can't be in Smash because it would pose a problem to the development team". It's about "This guy shouldn't get in because it's inclusion would be worthless".

So please, Shokio. Would you answer the question your title proposes? I'm honestly curious about your answer.

 

[Ghirahilda]

..... How do you play that flash game? Don't quite understand the controls for it. Kinda reminds me of a flash game I once saw with Ridley's Super Metroid sprite way back when (and no, it wasn't Mugen or anything).

Just keep tapping the mouse to make him jump and evade Sakurai!

 

[Phaazoid]

ok so I lied it looks like Ridley won't be revealed today because it looks like the reveal will be tomorrow

so Ridley will be revealed tomorrow

you heard it hear first

 

[Mega Dunsparce]

ok so I lied it looks like Ridley won't be revealed today because it looks like the reveal will be tomorrow

so Ridley will be revealed tomorrow

you heard it hear first

CURSES!

 

[Phaazoid]

CURSES!

the addendum of course is tomorrow IN JAPAN

probably will still be today here

 

[Hotfeet444]

Good morning all, hope you're all doing well. Well, today we'll possibly get a newcomer, and at the very least, Diddy Kong. My hope's for King K.Rool. Also, I forgot something in my own Ridley video, and that's the fact of what Ridley would look like on stage...so I have these pictures...

Spoiler

That, and I made a video on it too:

The music I chose is so symbolic it's almost scary.