Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[JediLink]

I thought Screw Attack was anti-Ridley?

Screw Attack is pro-Ridley. In their Top 5 Characters We Want To See, Ridley was #1.

 

[AustarusIV]

If Ridley doesn't make it then, well...There's also Project M to look forward to. Ridley is a serious contender for their clone engine, and I would think his popularity would help him get in. But still, it's hard for me to imagine Ridley not being in SSB4 unless the list of newcomers is seriously small.

 

[LiteTheIronMan]

This subject must have been discussed already, but I will ask anyway: Does anyone have any ideas of how Ridley's reveal trailer might be?

I am not creative enough to think of something cool

I have this recurring nightmare.

Mario and Samus are fighting on Pyrosphere. suddenly, a big ol silhouette shows up and starts blammin fireballs all over the place. Samus and Mario fight this dude off for like a full minute before the camera pans to reveal Ridley...

only to get shot down by Anthony Higgs. then the title card falls on Anthony and it turns out he's the one getting revealed in the trailer.

then I wake up in a cold sweat and scream.

this happens regularly.

 

[SchAlternate]

GUYS

Spoiler

Spoiler

Okay, I had a good laugh, I'll give you that.

 

[yosharioIII]

This subject must have been discussed already, but I will ask anyway: Does anyone have any ideas of how Ridley's reveal trailer might be?

I am not creative enough to think of something cool

It'll probably have the most teasing in any trailer ever! Like in Rosalina's trailer how you go "Oh.. Oh OH it's Kirby! Is it a Kirby charcter? Or... OH MARIO KART? A Mario spinoff charcter!" and all that.

I don't know. I hope it's something that involves a bunch of characters (one of them Samus) fighting on the different stages, then like once we coincidentally are in the Pyrosphere stage; stealthily slide into a cutscene. A few more second of fighting focus on Samus, stopping after landing a punch on Mario or something, looking offscreen. Camera turn to: that hole. That hole that everybody loves. Maybe we see what Samus sees, scanning it in her visor. We see Mario and Pikachu walk over to her, and stare intently at the hole with her. Then we here it, a resonating growl echoing off the tunnel walls in the distance. Mario and Pikachu look at eachother, Samus is fixated on the hole. Then a shrill roar bursts from the wall, Mario and Pikachu become wary, and Samus swings into a combat-ready stance with her arm cannon pointing at the hole. Cue Ridley theme intro, and BAM, everyone's favorite Space Pirate jets at the viewer head-on from the hole. Then cut to Ridley clips of long-awaited Smash combat!

Or idk something like that~

 

[Reila]

Personally, I thought it'd be cool if his reveal trailer was right after another one, just completely unprecedented, with it starting off in darkness.
Then, you hear pounding on metal, and Ridley bursts through the now-hole in the Pyrosphere, with his title card and theme playing.
Then maybe grabbing some random fighter and executing his signature move on them, then gameplay.
Then at the end, he slowly walks towards the camera, with the screen darkening, until all you see are his glowing eyes.

Haha holy ****, that would be cool. I could see that working on E3, first a trailer revealing Shulk and after that, Ridley's trailer

(I say Shulk because I think they will show more of Monolith Soft's X, so it would be the best opportunity to reveal him, if he is in SSB4)

It'll probably have the most teasing in any trailer ever! Like in Rosalina's trailer how you go "Oh.. Oh OH it's Kirby! Is it a Kirby charcter? Or... OH MARIO KART? A Mario spinoff charcter!" and all that.

I don't know. I hope it's something that involves a bunch of characters (one of them Samus) fighting on the different stages, then like once we coincidentally are in the Pyrosphere stage; stealthily slide into a cutscene. A few more second of fighting focus on Samus, stopping after landing a punch on Mario or something, looking offscreen. Camera turn to: that hole. That hole that everybody loves. Maybe we see what Samus sees, scanning it in her visor. We see Mario and Pikachu walk over to her, and stare intently at the hole with her. Then we here it, a resonating growl echoing off the tunnel walls in the distance. Mario and Pikachu look at eachother, Samus is fixated on the hole. Then a shrill roar bursts from the wall, Mario and Pikachu become wary, and Samus swings into a combat-ready stance with her arm cannon pointing at the hole. Cue Ridley theme intro, and BAM, everyone's favorite Space Pirate jets at the viewer head-on from the hole. Then cut to Ridley clips of long-awaited Smash combat!

Or idk something like that~

Sounds cool too! But I think the trailer focusing a lot on Samus would more or less spoil the surprise. Focusing on a different character (like Rosalina's trailer showing Kirby and some Mario Kart stuff) and then revealing Ridley would make of its reveal a bigger surprise. Like say, imagine Mario and perhaps Rosalina fighting some random enemies on the Mario Galaxy and then Ridley suddenly appears out of nowhere (or out of some random hole) and then to make things better, Samus arrives on the place in her spaceship and starts battling Ridley. As I said, I am not creative for this stuff. XD

 

[False Sense]

Sounds cool too! But I think the trailer focusing a lot on Samus would more or less spoil the surprise. Focusing on a different character (like Rosalina's trailer showing Kirby and some Mario Kart stuff) and then revealing Ridley would make of its reveal a bigger surprise. Like say, imagine Mario and perhaps Rosalina fighting some random enemies on the Mario Galaxy and then Ridley suddenly appears out of nowhere (or out of some random hole) and then to make things better, Samus arrives on the place in her spaceship and starts battling Ridley. As I said, I am not creative for this stuff. XD

You mean tease the idea of a Super Mario Galaxy 3 with Rosalina as a playable character just to reveal Ridley in Smash?

That's diabolical enough to work.

 

[Reila]

You mean tease the idea of a Super Mario Galaxy 3 with Rosalina as a playable character just to reveal Ridley in Smash?

That's diabolical enough to work.

That wasn't my idea, but man would that be amazing. And mean. And also disappointing to some extent haha.

 

[False Sense]

That wasn't my idea, but man would that be amazing. And mean. And also disappointing to some extent haha.

Well, that's what some people thought about the idea of Kirby Air Ride 2/Kirby in Mario Kart.

Then we got Rosalina.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

If Ridley doesn't make it then, well...There's also Project M to look forward to. Ridley is a serious contender for their clone engine, and I would think his popularity would help him get in. But still, it's hard for me to imagine Ridley not being in SSB4 unless the list of newcomers is seriously small.

There's some folks in Project M discussion(s) that are toobigots also, so we may need to show some fairly loud support for Ridley to be in even that.

 

[SchAlternate]

This subject must have been discussed already, but I will ask anyway: Does anyone have any ideas of how Ridley's reveal trailer might be?

I am not creative enough to think of something cool

Samus is exploring some ruins or whatever, when, far away in the distance, a gargoyle like figure appears atop a stone pillar. Samus takes a good long stare at it, then moves on. A couple steps away, she turns to the pillar once more; the gargoyle is no longer there! Surprised, Samus looks at her surrounding, alert, knowing something will jump and attack her. Meanwhile, in the sky, the creature flies high. The camera now shifts from this being's viewpoint. It traverses from the clouds, through the ruins, and then it spots Samus. She notices the beast!

Far away, on Battlefield, Luigi and Marth are duking it out. Suddenly, a loud roar is heard from the background. Marth looks at the distance while Luigi shivers in fear. They both look in the sky: Ridley is grasping Samus with one hand, squeezing her! She shoots him a couple of time, and then aim for the eyes; Ridley drops Samus, as she lands in the Battlefield. Marth and Luigi run to her, but then, Ridley lands. The dust created by the impact dissipates, and his glowing eyes are clearly seen. He lets out a lengthy roar!

RIDLEY INVADES THE BATTLE!

*cue awesome gameplay footage*

In the middle of the trailer, Ridley chases the three stooges/heroes through the ruins, as they try to find cover. A gap is in the way! Samus jumps over it with a somersault! Marth leaps into the air and uses Dolphin Slash to reach the ledge! Luigi brakes as soon as he reaches the gap, staring at the deep abyss below it. He tries to chicken out, but then looks at the freaking space dragon behind him, as Marth and Samus try to convince him to jump. He then crouches. He starts shaking. He's readying a Green Missile! He is fired away! ... about two feets away. He start to plummet, but is grabbed by Samus' grapple beam. She picks him up and runs; Ridley follows! The chase continues!

*cue more awesome gameplay footage!*

The ruins are now ablaze and collapsing! Finally, they reach a door and enter it! But the space pirate notices this and rushes towards the door! ... Only to bump his head into the frame of the door with an audible anvil noise. The dramatic music stops as he covers his head with his palm. He starts growling in pain. The three heroes peek their head outside the door, confused. Luigi tries to get close to Ridley, but the dragon snarls him, causing him to panic! He then blast the upper casing of the door, and keeps on pursuing the heroes through the door.

*cue even more awesome gameplay footage*

SUPER SMASH BROS FOR WII U AND 3DS

After the title of the game is displayed, a shot of the door is seen. Luigi runs away like a fool as he exits it, followed by Marth and Samus, the latter shooting the walls above the door wiith Super Missles, causing it to collapse. Ridley, trying to chase down Samus, is hit by the debris, trapping him. Samus the calls her ship and enters it. Marth does so as well, and Luigi enters it as well with some trouble. As the ship fades away, Ridley stuggles to get out, but fails. He then lets out a dissapointed groan.

So, what do you think?

 

[Angelglory]

The more I mess around with Other M Ridley, the more I like the design. Just fix his duck bill and I'm all set, Sakurai. Also did some texture work to fix the wing textures for better pictures.

As for my own trailer idea? To be extra devious, let's use Zelda Wii U as the bait and switch...

Trailer starts with a set-up that gives leverage to it being the reveal of the brand new Legend of Zelda for Wii U!! Link is exploring a dungeon, then comes upon a large room where in any old trailer you would expect a big enemy to jump out and attack our hero. And that's just what happens! But wait a second, that's no ordinary enemy--!

Ridley explodes onto the battlefield!

*insert gameplay footage*

And then at the end of the trailer Oh snap, it's Link vs Ridley. But Samus to the rescue, she joins Link's side and the two ready to square off against the killing machine. Ridley swipes at the camera and cue end of trailer.​

 

[False Sense]

The more I mess around with Other M Ridley, the more I like the design. Just fix his duck bill and I'm all set Sakurai. Also did some texture work to fix the wing textures for better pictures.

As for my own trailer idea? To be extra devious, let's use Zelda Wii U as the bait and switch...

Trailer starts with a set-up that gives leverage to it being the reveal of the brand new Legend of Zelda for Wii U!! Link is exploring a dungeon, then comes upon a large room where in any old trailer you would expect a big enemy to jump out and attack our hero. And that's just what happens! But wait a second, that's no ordinary enemy--!

Ridley explodes onto the battlefield!

*insert gameplay footage*

And then at the end of the trailer Oh snap, it's Link vs Ridley. But Samus to the rescue, she joins Link's side and the two ready to square off against the killing machine. Ridley swipes at the camera and cue end of trailer.​

Woah, that's a good model. Or at least, that's a good pose of the Other M model. It'd be neat to see a size comparison for that.

As for your reveal trailer idea, that actually makes perfect sense. It provides a way of showing off a new game while giving Ridley a good chance to insert himself into the situation without being too obvious from the start. And of course, it could be followed up immediately with a trailer for the new Zelda game. I could totally see this, or a very similar situation, happening.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Count me among those that support Ridley's inclusion in SSB4. He consists of my three most wanted characters, alongside King K Rool and Mewtwo. If I can have all three in the new game, then I'll be eminently pleased.

After a brief survey of the thread, I'd like to state that I'm in agreement with all the major arguments presented thus far in favour of Ridley's inclusion, and see no obstacles when it comes to Ridley's size, his past role as a boss in Brawl, and so forth.

So, yeah. Talons crossed, folks.

 

[Deleted member]

The more I mess around with Other M Ridley, the more I like the design. Just fix his duck bill and I'm all set, Sakurai. Also did some texture work to fix the wing textures for better pictures.

As for my own trailer idea? To be extra devious, let's use Zelda Wii U as the bait and switch...

Trailer starts with a set-up that gives leverage to it being the reveal of the brand new Legend of Zelda for Wii U!! Link is exploring a dungeon, then comes upon a large room where in any old trailer you would expect a big enemy to jump out and attack our hero. And that's just what happens! But wait a second, that's no ordinary enemy--!

Ridley explodes onto the battlefield!

*insert gameplay footage*

And then at the end of the trailer Oh snap, it's Link vs Ridley. But Samus to the rescue, she joins Link's side and the two ready to square off against the killing machine. Ridley swipes at the camera and cue end of trailer.​

You missed an opportunity here to make a fake Ridley leak using that image.

 

[MasterofMonster]

I am just happy Sakurai has said that they CAN make Ridley playable (slow he may be). And hopefully, the demand for him has been enough to give the poor dragon a spot.

Also, what would his Final Smash be?

Great Charge: Ridley flies straight up, and then is controlled as he charges the characters from the background, like how he does it in Super Metroid (and in Brawl, even). Hard to aim, but super strong.

MetaRidley: a Giga-Bowser like transformation.

Wall Drag: grabs a foe in front of him, flies up where the enviroment Changes into a Metroid-styled wall, where Ridley drags the foe alongside it for a while, then finishes them off with a Fire/Plasma blast. Like in Other M.

 

[Reila]

Woah, it is Pinhead. Who opened the box?

lol

As far as Ridley's Final Smash is concerned, I think he should transform in Omega Ridley and wreck ****.

 

[Staarih]

I think Ridley's trailer could also reveal ZSS, just as a side notion if they don't reveal her earlier. She could lose her Power Suit while battling against Ridley or something.

But anyway, this thread has really made me like the Other M design of Ridley. A few touch ups here and there and he would be perfect for Smash!

 

[FlareHabanero]

You missed an opportunity here to make a fake Ridley leak using that image.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

I think Ridley's trailer could also reveal ZSS, just as a side notion if they don't reveal her earlier. She could lose her Power Suit while battling against Ridley or something.

Sounds like that could potentially be a throwback to the infamous Other M/Pyrosphere cutscene where Ridley temporarily shut down Samus's "willpower suit" as he grabbed her, which I don't think many would like. (Referring to the whole losing her suit while battle against Ridley scenario for a trailer)

 

[Deleted member]

Ridley explodes onto the battlefield!​

​

Love, love, love, LOVE dat design.
Just fix his mouth a little bit more, and I'll give a hundred more loves.

 

[Angelglory]

Well, I did whip this up last night

 

[UltimateWario]

Well, I did whip this up last night

Dat ****'s good, but Other Ridley looks really weird head-on. That's obviously not your fault, though.

Those spikes look like some dorky haircut.

 

[Dark Phazon]

I've always liked the Other M Samus design too, in general I just like the more sleak Samus designs over the bulky ones. My favorite Samus design remains the flat shouldered one from Zero Mission actually (coincidentally it also has my favorite Ridley design.) And while I don't particularly like the Other Ridley design in comparison to the rest of the Ridley designs (with the exception of super ugly Neo-Ridley,) it's still Ridley, and he still looks cooler than the rest of the Nintendo cast, so yeah.

You're certainly not losing any credibility in my book, if anything I kind of envy you for being able to enjoy Other M as a game. The more you can enjoy, the better.



I'll admit that I'd feel bad by calling Sakurai such things, he is one of my favorite video game developers both with Smash Bros. and Kirby. However, with the creativity that we know Sakurai possesses there's simply no excuse anymore. If he can make Mother Brain work as an AT, then he sure as hell can make Ridley work as a playable character too. He'd have to hold a personal grudge towards Ridley for him not to be in this time.

Hmmmmm i get you man...its like a wife making you vegtables instead of chicken...and i know....you still love her...but Ugh.......you know........so dissapointing....expecially when Chicken made so much more sense....

if they decide to go the Capcom route, and add DLC characters/skins/etc, I wouldn't mind dropping like five bucks after launch to download Ridley.

but only because it's Ridley. :T

Not Really...because the Wii U only ships with 32 GB of internal data its not enough to download Ridley

But yh i get what you mean but thats still bad if anything...think about it...

 

[TylerBlackRunIt]

Well, I did whip this up last night

Cool!!!!

 

[Dark Phazon]

I have this recurring nightmare.

Mario and Samus are fighting on Pyrosphere. suddenly, a big ol silhouette shows up and starts blammin fireballs all over the place. Samus and Mario fight this dude off for like a full minute before the camera pans to reveal Ridley...

only to get shot down by Anthony Higgs. then the title card falls on Anthony and it turns out he's the one getting revealed in the trailer.

then I wake up in a cold sweat and scream.

this happens regularly.

Take two pills a day one in the moring after breakfast and one in the afternoon after dinner for 3 weeks.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

The more I mess around with Other M Ridley, the more I like the design. Just fix his duck bill and I'm all set, Sakurai. Also did some texture work to fix the wing textures for better pictures.

As for my own trailer idea? To be extra devious, let's use Zelda Wii U as the bait and switch...

Trailer starts with a set-up that gives leverage to it being the reveal of the brand new Legend of Zelda for Wii U!! Link is exploring a dungeon, then comes upon a large room where in any old trailer you would expect a big enemy to jump out and attack our hero. And that's just what happens! But wait a second, that's no ordinary enemy--!

Ridley explodes onto the battlefield!

*insert gameplay footage*

And then at the end of the trailer Oh snap, it's Link vs Ridley. But Samus to the rescue, she joins Link's side and the two ready to square off against the killing machine. Ridley swipes at the camera and cue end of trailer.​

YES a great picture of him not bad of a idea for the trailer I mean the pyrosphere is too obvious

 

[Deleted member]

Wait....that brings up a thought.

Since the Pyrosphere is too obvious.....would Sakurai even use it for Ridley's reveal?

 

[Kamiko]

Wait....that brings up a thought.

Since the Pyrosphere is too obvious.....would Sakurai even use it for Ridley's reveal?

Probably in the gameplay videos, but maybe not the cinematics.

 

[AnOkayDM]

Wait....that brings up a thought.

Since the Pyrosphere is too obvious.....would Sakurai even use it for Ridley's reveal?

Well, Rosalina wasn't revealed on the Galaxy stage, so perhaps not. At least not at first. But they'd have to show gameplay of him fighting Samus there.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Wait....that brings up a thought.

Since the Pyrosphere is too obvious.....would Sakurai even use it for Ridley's reveal?

Exactly I mean Rosalina was revealed on rainbow road not the mario galaxy stage

 

[Deleted member]

Exactly I mean Rosalina was revealed on rainbow road not the mario galaxy stage

Ah, I misread what you said, then.
I thought you were saying that the Pyrosphere was too obvious to not be Ridley's reveal.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Woah, it is Pinhead. Who opened the box?

lol

As far as Ridley's Final Smash is concerned, I think he should transform in Omega Ridley and wreck ****.

Smash is pretty popular in Hell, as you might imagine. It's nice to play a set or two between sessions of spooning the flayed.

In other news, I haven't played Other M***, though I agree that Other M Ridley is the most probable incarnation to be included. In the same way that Smash Samus is not a perfect Other M replication (as per Sakurai's comments in that E3 Developer Direct), I'd like to think that Ridley's design will be similarly streamlined.

I'm digging all the size comparisons and poses you guys are doing. Keep it up.

***I've only played the Prime Trilogy, alas. Maybe someday, I'll have accrued enough Metroid cred to actually be worthy of posting in this thread. ;P

 

[Ridleyfighter]

Wrong, I don't think that will be the case because that design of Ridley probably wasn't even created by nintendo.

 

[Deleted member]

Wrong, I don't think that will be the case because that design of Ridley probably wasn't even created by nintendo.

I....don't even know where to begin with this.....

 

[Sehnsucht]

Wrong, I don't think that will be the case because that design of Ridley probably wasn't even created by nintendo.

Ah, yes. It was a Nintendo-Team Ninja collab.

Still, with Nintendo owning the Metroid franchise, and with Nintendo having contributed to the development of Other M, I can't see how Team Ninja would "own" the Other M Ridley design (thereby forcing Sora to implement a non-Other M design). Even if the design was primarily created by Team Ninja.

 

[El Fonz0]

Don't know if it was this thread, or some other one, but I read that a possible final smash for our main dragon would be doing his signature move on someone, with the background changing to a Metroid themed one, and my addition to that would be Ridley becomes larger during the final Smash, so that it looks more powerful/intimidating/whatever, but also so that it wouldn't look wierd if Ridley did this to another Ridley in play.

 

[AnOkayDM]

Wrong, I don't think that will be the case because that design of Ridley probably wasn't even created by nintendo.

wat

 

[MasterofMonster]

My four Most Wanted for Smash Was

Ridley, Rosalina, Waluigi and Ghirahim. I got Rosalina, but I kinda fear I may not get any of the other Three. ._.

If we don't get Ridley this time, there may be years until he has Another chance.

@ El Fonz0
Yeah, that was me. ^^

 

[Sehnsucht]

Don't know if it was this thread, or some other one, but I read that a possible final smash for our main dragon would be doing his signature move on someone, with the background changing to a Metroid themed one, and my addition to that would be Ridley becomes larger during the final Smash, so that it looks more powerful/intimidating/whatever, but also so that it wouldn't look wierd if Ridley did this to another Ridley in play.

In other words, a cinematic FS in the vein of Falcon's. That could be cool. It would be kind of surreal of to see Ridley-on-Ridley violence, though. A four-way Ridley rampage would be a sight to behold.

Come to think of it, instead of facing Fighting Polygons or whatever in the penultimate Classic campaign, we should just have you fight x30 Ridleys before you square off against Master Hand.