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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

AustarusIV

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When I first saw that picture, I never once considered Mother Brain to be the stage hazard, but rather a new assist trophy. At this point in time, people should try to give up on the whole "RIDLEY'S A HAZARD" thing and just wait to see if he was just referencing Other M.

I seriously believe this bit of news boosts Ridley's chances considerably.
 

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At the very least, he's probably not an AT.
 

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Okay, it's just an assist. I was about to crown Sakurai king of the trolls.
...He clearly is: he knows the immediate reaction will be people thinking MB is a stage hazard. Thus getting our hopes up to immediately crush them. Nevertheless, the more he does on this stage without Ridley the crazier we get, this is just a more extreme example. King troll is accurate.
 

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Nah, I wouldn't put too much thought into that. It just makes sense to show Samus fight off a Metroid series Assist on a Metroid series stage. Though I'm relatively sure that Sakurai knows we want Ridley, not much to doubt in that. So he probably wants to hold him off for a while. Personally, I think I would be hype to see almost any new character. I really hope we get another one soon.
 

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If anything, this helps Ridley's chances.

Take a look at the pic.

SEE HOW "BIG AS ****" MOTHER BRAIN IS? NOW ALSO LOOK AT PALKIA!!!

Now you may be asking... What does that have to do with Ridley?

Simple.

Sakurai doesn't care about big assist characters clipping through stuff. Like those platforms on the side.

And I mean, major clipping.

Why wouldn't he hold the same stance on characters? Especially when Bowser already clips through Battlefield.
 

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If anything, this helps Ridley's chances.

Take a look at the pic.

SEE HOW "BIG AS ****" MOTHER BRAIN IS? NOW ALSO LOOK AT PALKIA!!!

Now you may be asking... What does that have to do with Ridley?

Simple.

Sakurai doesn't care about big assist characters clipping through stuff. Like those platforms on the side.

And I mean, major clipping.

Why wouldn't he hold the same stance on characters? Especially when Bowser already clips through Battlefield.
The thought of Ridley summoning Assist Trophy!Mother Brain alone is just salivating to me. The guy who was originally one of her generals is now doing the command work and orders her to attack his nemesis?

"Gah ha ha ha!! Guess who's in charge of the Space Pirates?!"
 

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if anything, this gives me hope that Ridley, or at least some alternate Metroid representative, will make it in as a new character. think about it- if he was a stage hazard, he would've been displayed to us by now. "an enemy from Samus's past" could've referred to Mother Brain, and we didn't guess that Sakurai was just being a big ol' tease. besides, even though the lava never actually rises on this stage in the actual game, it's not a Smash game without a liquid hazard Metroid stage, and Ridley as a hazard would be too obnoxious.

my money is on Ridley making it in as a playable character, now more than ever. if I'm right, a lot of naysayers and dream crushers owe me like a dollar each.

also, I would like to point out how ****ing huge Mother Brain is. Mario looks dinky as **** behind her. she's never been this massive in any Metroid game- the brain itself has always been about Samus's height. clear evidence that Sakurai gives no ****s about a character's size when it comes to Smash. I'd say Ridley's chances are nice.
 

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That's what I think, if he was a stage hazard, he would have been shown by now. Most stages have their details thrown out pretty soon-ish after they are shown. I can't really think of any major exceptions to this so far. Maybe the boxing ring stage.

The gravity effect on the Mario Galaxy stage? Check. Yellow Devil in Megaman's stage in some fashion? Check. Mario Kart stage that moves like an F-Zero track? Check. Reset Bombs in a Kid Icarus stage? Check.

I really can't see any reason as to why he'd hold out so long on a Metroid stage of all things. We do see rising lava though. Which is pretty much been in every Metroid stage in the series. It's kind of a staple at this point.
 

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The beam would repeatedly flash different colors, but Sakurai took a picture of it while it was purple. I know it doesn't mean anything, it's just funny. Anyway I'm really hoping that the next newcomer reveal is Ridley. I really want to know when the next Nintendo Direct will be.
 
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The beam would repeatedly flash different colors, but Sakurai took a picture of it while it was purple. I know it doesn't mean anything, it's just funny. Anyway I'm really hoping that the next newcomer reveal is Ridley. I really want to know when the next Nintendo Direct will be.
This is most likely just hype, but I'm wondering if the next newcomer revealed in the Nintendo Directs is actually Ridley and not Palutena. We've already had plenty of coverage on the Pyrosphere, and yet we hardly know anything else about Metroid representation until now.
 

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I do think a scaled down Ridley would look pretty damn cool in comparison to how big Mother Brain is, iirc it'd sort of hold up to the manga standards (though of course Samus is quite a bit bigger in comparison to them here). This is one of the few opportunities to showcase Ridley and Mother Brain together, so I dearly hope that we can have Ridley summon his superior to bring the hammer down on his opponents.
 
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I don't see Ridley being revealed until Zero Suit Samus is.

I have a feeling newcomers won't be announced until all veterans from their series are revealed.
 

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I'm not expecting Ridley to be revealed for quite some time either, especially with how much tension and controversy that's surrounding him right now, they're probably keeping him back for as long as they can to whip up the discussions and hype. However, I don't really think ZSS needs to be revealed first, unless she's going to be present in the trailer of course. I'm really expecting the transformation characters like ZSS and Sheik to be the last characters revealed before release.
 

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This is one of the few opportunities to showcase Ridley and Mother Brain together, so I dearly hope that we can have Ridley summon his superior to bring the hammer down on his opponents.
Or having them pitted against one another. Don't lie, deep down we've always wanted to see Ridley usurp power back/pull a double-cross of epic proportions.

Regardless of what the final outcome will be, I was right all along in that Ridley wouldn't be the first Metroid-related creature/boss shown on Pyrosphere.

As such, this will be playing in my head until the inevitable conclusion. (and I'll probably post it again just for good measure)

 

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Yeah, I also don't think ZSS would have to be revealed first for him to be if Sheik's any indication like back in Brawl, particularly if she doesn't show up for his trailer as all the Mario characters did for Rosalina.

As for his potential reveal, I'm a bit bias and I hope he's revealed sooner rather then later, my heart can't take anymore jumps at the merest speck of purple...
 

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Woke up in the docs atm awaitng for a blood test to see if i haz cancer for all the Metroid Smokes.

Saw Da Pic Of Da Day

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I think my heart stopped for a minute as I was in pure WTF mode.
STOP PLAYING WITH MY HEAD SAKURAI.

Now we just Brinstar dephts back and Ridley playable so we can have the three bosses from the original Metroid appear in the game.
Also, thanks god, she's not in her stupid MB form from Other M but in her iconic appearance, I wonder if it means that we could have Ridley appear in his Super Metroid appearance after all.
 

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I think my heart stopped for a minute as I was in pure WTF mode.
STOP PLAYING WITH MY HEAD SAKURAI.

Now we just Brinstar dephts back and Ridley playable so we can have the three bosses from the original Metroid appear in the game.
Also, thanks god, she's not in her stupid MB form from Other M but in her iconic appearance, I wonder if it means that we could have Ridley appear in his Super Metroid appearance after all.
I guess the ZM design was chosen primarily because there never was a clear design for Mother Brain in Other M (except for in the beginning cinematic, which was with the body and everything,) so they just went with what they had. MB would obviously not be chosen since... well, she can't really do much herself, she relies on her minions. I'm still guessing Other Ridley, though of course I'm hoping otherwise.

Brinstar Depths would be pretty cool to have back, but if not then Kraid could always be an Adventure Mode boss, which was what I was hoping he'd be in Brawl too.
 
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People have already been calling K. Rool too big for a long time, they just haven't been as loud and obnoxious as the Ridley haters. During my time at GameFAQs, I've encountered people who were against his inclusion by citing his appearances in DKC and DK64, even in spite of the fact that he was made smaller in the Mario Baseball game for the Wii. So it wouldn't make much of a difference really.

But even in canon Ridley's size fluctuates. In Metroid Prime 3 Corruption he's borderline Kraid-sized as Meta Ridley, but when he reappears as Omega Ridley he's suddenly shrunken down to the point that he's only twice the size of Samus.
Yh for real...a simple way i see it is lol...it seems like the haters care more about size than the Dev's do......Haters take canon more seriously than it does itself...

Ridley been resized twice in the same game....you know its weired/wrong when they care about it more than the devs do...they just fit was seems right at that moment.

Omega Ridley you fight him in that dungeon phaze dome thing he flies about through those ''Holes''

Lol the Dev's must have thought the battle wouldnt have looked right if he was his Meta Ridley elevater battle size so they shrunk him abit

Problem?

if anything its just obssesive....the Dev's & Canon dont care about Size as much as these haters do...its just obbsessive hate imo that is...

They care more than Sakurai does...lmao how messed up is that?

Hey thats just my take on it....

I dunno....not everything needs to be super strict and accurate sometimes what just looks and feels right is for thr best for that moment we dont buy games to analyse em like scientist with measurements and all that crap...we play for entertainment...

Whats fun....i think PeePz shutting up and make Ridley playable would be hella fun

Whats the excuse if he is playable?

Sakurai wanted him to be...

''Everyone shuts up....''

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omg you guys look at the laser, it's purple! And the color purple can literally only mean one thing...!



o noes ridle s diconferned
 
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So mother brain is a assist trophy

Well in a way it helps ridley I mean she looks as big as Palkia and maybe her assist trophy status is like Alfonzo with the train conducted for Ridley (:troll:)
 

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Here's something I did out of curiousity; size comparison between Samus, Mother Brain, and Ridley throughout the series. I tried to keep Samus' size as consistently as possible, so it shows how much Mother Brain and Ridley grow/shrink.

 

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I guess the Mother Brain assist trophy isn't humongous.
Which means that Ridley would probably stand up to the top of Mother Brain herself. Maybe a little smaller, but I see Ridley as significantly bigger than Samus so that nobody's crying about him being able to pick her up.
 

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Oh another piece of curiosity

Now unless it's just in the upper right corner hidden but

What ahppen to the hole it's gone it was right above and next to the door
 

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Well, I guess this almost rules out the possibility of Ridley being an assist trophy. I doubt that the Metroid series would get two big character assists like that, especially if the Metroid assist returns.

So judging by Sakurai's infamous Pyrosphere comment, it would strongly suggest that Ridley will be appearing on the stage either as a stage hazard, or possibly a playable character (likely an unlock-able one that you would fight on this stage). I never thought that comment suggested an assist trophy role, but it's nice to see that the chances of that happening are very unlikely at this point. This leaves us with the first two possibilities. Obviously, the stage hazard role seems the most likely based on the comment, but at this point... Sakurai would have to be doing an incredible job of hiding that thing. Not only have we seen countless Pyrosphere pictures at this point (that the second one this week), but we've also seen several footage clips of it. What really seals the deal for me is actually Rosalina's trailer. The Pyrosphere is shown off thrice in that trailer, twice to demonstrate Rosalina really pushing the limits of what she and the Luma can do together (attacking Mario and Luigi on opposite sides, forming a large combo on Pit), and to show her deflecting Mario's F.L.U.D.D attack. Those bits of footage seem like pretty tricky things to record right, given the complexity of what's going on, so you'd think they would try to limit interfering factors. If Ridley did appear as a stage hazard or even just was flying around in the background, his appearance would force them to do another take to hide that hazard. Seems like they would want to choose a more basic stage like Battlefield for those combo moments. Unless of course, the Pyrosphere does not have a hazard to hide.

Sort of got off topic there, didn't I? Personally, I think this assist trophy reveal just slightly helps Ridley's chances. Not significantly, but it does make one form of a non-playable appearance that much less likely.
 
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On second thought, Ridley would be too big if he was up to the top of Mother Brain, looking at Mario in back of her.
That being said I think your Samus may be a tad big. I'd put Samus up to her eye or so, and Ridley up to where Samus is currently.
 
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Looks like Mario has been controlling Mother Brain this whole time...Our lives have been a lie!

On a more serious note, I woke up this morning with this weird feeling that the pic of the day was gonna be an assist trophy. As I opened Miiverse, my initial reaction was "HOLY **** WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ABOMINATION??". Then as I took a closer look, it shifted to something like "HOLY MOTHER BRAIN OF GOD!!!", and I finally read the caption. At this point, the little hopes I had for Ridley's inclusion just had a little boost. It just wouldn't feel right if Ridley ended up being something other than a playable character this time around.

In a month or two, he will show us a super-huge-ass assist trophy of Kraid attacking from the bottom of Pyrosphere. For those wondering about the purple laser though, it's pretty obvious that Mother Brain must have consumed poor Ridley before coming to battle, giving her a noticeable increase in size.

As for the assist trophy, it looks pretty neat. It might just make me play the game with ATs on...
 

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I really hope Brinstar Depths doesn't return.
Then Kraid returns as a stage hazard and there's no better option for a Metroid boss than youknowwho.
 

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Here's something I did out of curiousity; size comparison between Samus, Mother Brain, and Ridley throughout the series. I tried to keep Samus' size as consistently as possible, so it shows how much Mother Brain and Ridley grow/shrink.

I can't tell if your helping ridley or not I mean smash bros MB is about the same size as the MB on the left so should ridley be the size of the one with that one

But ofcoarse you probably just showing mother brain gets ton of size changes as well
 
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I can't tell if your helping ridley or not I mean smash bros MB is about the same size as the MB on the left so should ridley be the size of the one with that one

But ofcoarse you probably just showing mother brain gets ton of size changes as well
I dunno if it helps or hurts Ridley at all. I just wanted to show it as it is.

To me, it looks like Mother Brain's size in SSB4 is about the same as Super Metroid or maybe in-between Metroid and Super Metroid.

But yeah, it's obvious that neither Ridley nor Mother Brain retain a consistent size.
 

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Has anyone drawn very similar connections to Sakurai's famous Ridley comment and his recent Palutena comment?
He said that Ridley could appear at any second. Some people thought that meant stage hazard, while it could have easily just been a reference to Other M.
He said Palutena is watching over the battlefield. Clearly Palutena is not a stage hazard, but it made people believe that Palutena may just be a goddess figure and not playable, even though it's just a reference to the fact that she has a statue in the center of the stage.
Sakurai's comments don't really mean much, when you figure out that their main purpose is to mess with your head.
Palutena's comment means the same as Ridley's to me at this point.
And I'm expecting both of them.
 
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