Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[SmilingMad]

Oh well, it couldn't be ALL of the characters. Still, that Ganondorf looks exactly like in Brawl and not like on the render. Weird.


Just teasing. For year. Without any real answer (no, shadow doesn't counts, only deconfirmation exactly like Waluigi's, Dark Samus', Skull Kid's, etc, deconfirmation). We don't know as what exactly he was teased. That is the problem.

Yep. Ridley has NOT been teased as a playable character. He has been teased as a boss. Our "evidence" comes in other forms.

Obviously not getting dragonite but how could anyone pick him over garchomp anyway

RIDLEY!
On topic, please.

 

[AuraShaman]

Can someone please explain to me how showing his shadow once during a narration about "other" bosses counts as teasing him to be playable for a year? The one other time he was simply mentioned in words was even more implied to be a boss than the April direct showing was, in a way that basically can't be misconstrued.

There is no damn teasing for his playability! He has been referenced twice, once in writing talking about a Pyrosphere trait, the next in a clip during the bit about stage bosses.

In all forms of rationality this does not equate to Sakurai teasing Ridley as a playable character in any sense of the word, especially not for "a year"!

Stop using that as a supporting argument. It's false. It's 100% a mockery of fact.

You've forced me to take action, as you've crossed the line yet again... @ IsmaR @--- I need your help in controlling this!

 

[Backgammon]

Stay on topic guys, or I'll have to start handing out warnings.

I would also advise not coming to a thread just to poke fun at its inhabitants, it's not something I or the forum rules take lightly.

 

[AuraShaman]

Stay on topic guys, or I'll have to start handing out warnings.

I would also advise not coming to a thread just to poke fun at its inhabitants, it's not something I or the forum rules take lightly.

Yes, please @Zipzo! It's as if you never listen to that one simple thing!

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Holy crap look

Theres no stopping that leak now.

 

[SmilingMad]

Yes, please @Zipzo! It's as if you never listen to that one simple thing!

Aura, stop that.

Either way, I'm actua-

Holy crap look

Theres no stopping that leak now.

I already said that. Don't discuss it.

As I was going to say, I actually like having Zipzo around. It helps with preparing for the possibility of a nasty blow that is the deconfirmation. Anti-hype has its uses you know.

 

[AuraShaman]

Holy crap look

Theres no stopping that leak now.

..........Now we've really lost.

 

[SS-bros14]

Holy crap look

Theres no stopping that leak now.

I-I think I believe it now.
Remember this connects with the Ninka leak, so...
RIDLEY CONFIRMED!

 

[Backgammon]

Leak discussion goes in the Smash 4 Social Topic or the Leak thread, please.

 

[Ultra*HappyCharge]

NOW DOES THIS MEAN SOMETHING TO MY ICE CLIMBERS AND CHORUS KIDS T^T

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Well, now our only hope is that not all charcaters were shown on character selection screen. Otherwise, meh, we lost, blah blah, wait for next game. Im not going to panic or something. Gotta go back to my project then. Anyway, stop this discussion and go back to Ridley. Either character himself or area where he lives.

 

[Naglfarii]

RIDLEY!
On topic, please.

I mean obviously ridley is a dragon type so it's related *cough*

Sorry

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

..........Now we've really lost.

Oh calm down

The guys who leaked the pictures said its not the full roster

Besides ridley has too much evidence for playable already

Mewtwo as well.

 

[Deleted member 245254]

You've forced me to take action, as you've crossed the line yet again... @ IsmaR @--- I need your help in controlling this!

I don't understand. I'm not trolling. I'm not even saying Ridley isn't in. I'm debating the severity of his "teasing", which I believe is relevant to the level of expectation you should have for his inclusion.

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

[collapse=Offtopic]

Alright, it would happen some time anyway without my intervention, so let me be the bringer of the off topic news, and let's NOT discuss it here: video footage of leak.

Do not discuss here. There is still hope for Ridley, I repeat, there is still hope.

Well... that's what I wanted to see... video evidence... and its... its... ugh. [/collapse]

Well it's coming down to the wire and we need to get something soon from Sakurai to avoid anymore leaked information. Seriously Sakurai, I don't want to see your game get spoiled before you do. Please, reveal someone, ANYONE.

[collapse=Offtopic #2]It just pisses me off that this was being discussed behind closed doors by the mods and others. Why the hell didn't anyone tell us this about the leak. Send a link to the thread or something. But NO, you guys have been beating behind the bushes about this and just tiptoeing information of the leaks legitimacy. Really, that pisses me off. [/collapse]

 

[BaganSmashBros]

I mean obviously ridley is a dragon type so it's related *cough*

He completly owns Jigglypuff, resistant to Fire and something else and and is weak to Ice, Electric and Water attacks*. So, he isn't...right? Anyway, barely related and not-so-barely related stuff is off-topic. Only Ridley isn't.
*In Brawl only.

Mewtwo as well.

I disagree with this part of your post. He has nothing going for him. Greninja doesn't counts because it is clear that it is not Mewtwo (he is upside-down, that is already something). But that doesn't means his chances are 0. He was cut in Brawl ONLY because of time constraints or whatever.

 

[AuraShaman]

I don't understand. I'm not trolling. I'm not even saying Ridley isn't in. I'm debating the severity of his "teasing", which I believe is relevant to the level of expectation you should have for his inclusion.

Still, the tone in which you debunk our evidence makes us look and feel very inferior, and sometimes violated. Saying it's 100% fake or whatever sounds strongly biased and one-sided IMO.


Besides, do you really want Ridley, one of the most iconic Nintendo villains, to be a Wii U exclusive boss? I doubt we'll be getting a 3DS Pyrosphere at this point.

 

[Black-chestnut]

Holy crap look

Theres no stopping that leak now.

ok so the leak is real but this does not kill ridley's chance there are 5 unlockables in the leaked pics so ridley is most likely one of them i mean think of this you are playing for first time and you don't know what the hidden characters are and then you see that new challenger with ridley's shadow so many people would be shocked because they thought that he was a boss think about it

 

[Thor_Hammerschlag]

I-I think I believe it now.
Remember this connects with the Ninka leak, so...
RIDLEY CONFIRMED!

Can you show exactly what you mean?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Off topic

Spoiler

even if it is legit, not all the characters

Spoiler

Alright then, intead of fighting for 3 days, how about we agree on disagreeing? hm? the majority of us believe Ridley is playable, and some other don't.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

REMINDER : I'll talk about the leak only once, but we need to get straigth about this leak :

It only mentioned ALL the characters and cut you could see on the video.

Ridley, Dixie and co. are SPECULATIONS from anonymous leakers on 4chan that leaked a few weeks ago with DHD and Bowser Jr.

For now, this leak has NOTHING to do with Ridley.

Discuss here : http://smashboards.com/threads/potential-roster-stage-leak-thread.364914/page-118#post-17385146

 

[SS-bros14]

Can you show exactly what you mean?

Somewhere around June there was this leak called the Ninka leak that just about connects directly with this leak. Ask some at potential leak thread for a better explanation.

 

[FriendlySpaceDragon@32]

I know the leak discussion should be in another board, but I assume that the leak is not the real one.

I was speculate if any of representatives enemy appear in smash run ex: If Goomba appears then Mario should be in the roster
-There is image of Polar Bear in SSB DOJO 3ds section, then it is likely that Ice Climbers return as playable character
Second- About the Red Team Victory screen, I was skeptical that there is few or even NONE screenshot of team victory, so I think it remain debatable. p.s:judging by Sakurai's personality, he would not just make such a simple victory screen that shows only one character
-Third, Bowser Jr's image looks surprisingly familiar.

They are just my speculations not being a hater or something

 

[DustyPumpkin]

Sometimes I worry to myself if these gijinka's or whatever are actually any good
I've got like 0 competition seeing Human*izations of Ridley are as rare as...uh... very rare thing.

But be honest with me are these actually any good?
How'd you do them?

* Well they have sharp teeth and elf ears maybe I've just made them Manaketes from Fire Emblem.

 

[SmilingMad]

Can you show exactly what you mean?

This. Note that it's under "speculation". Take everything with a grain of salt.

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Sometimes I worry to myself if these gijinka's or whatever are actually any good
I've got like 0 competition seeing Human*izations of Ridley are as rare as...uh... very rare thing.

But be honest with me are these actually any good?
How'd you do them?

* Well they have sharp teeth and elf ears maybe I've just made them Manaketes from Fire Emblem.

I feel that they might need to be...pointier. The characters overall, or at least Leftley, to fit with the design.

 

[Ike the Killer]

They already told us not to talk about the leaks here, but in any case dont believe any of them lol.

About RIDLEY and this tease its pretty simple. Lets sum it up

-Ridley is important/demanded by fans (This place is a fine example xD)
-Sakurai checks internet sources, he easily knows the "ITS TOO BIG" is probably the most recurring excuse for haters
-Sakurai has always disconfirm characters whenever they are hinted, you already know the list
-Sakurai is athe master troll

So, mix this. Sakurai hints us, making the world believe Ridley is a boss WITHOUT SAYING he is a boss. This makes up for the tease, people wanting him playable, haters wanting him as an hazzard/boss but not diconfirming him cause he didnt say his name nor showed more pics of him (Not even his design) and then the trolling is served.

Is that simple, if he was a simple stage hazzard why wouldnt he had said it in the first place? Like really, one entire year teasing with him and the end nothing? That seems unlikely, or at least 100 times more unlikely than him not being playable at this point.

We already know Ridley is in the game, and we have a lot of reasons for thinking he should be playable (Important to Metroid, iconic villain, Important to Nintendo, Demanded by fans, Metroid needs more representation at smash...). Plus, the classic "Its too big" argument doesnt stand a chance anymore, its countered heavily everywhere, and Sakurai was only scared of making him SLOW not big, according to what he said for Brawl

 

[Shaya]

Hello friends. Leak thread. Ja.
2 Point infractions for all who not heed the multiple warnings presented thus far~

 

[BindingBlade]

I wish Ridley were in it, maybe he still has a chance.

 

[FriendlySpaceDragon@32]

They already told us not to talk about the leaks here, but in any case dont believe any of them lol.

About RIDLEY and this tease its pretty simple. Lets sum it up

-Ridley is important/demanded by fans (This place is a fine example xD)
-Sakurai checks internet sources, he easily knows the "ITS TOO BIG" is probably the most recurring excuse for haters
-Sakurai has always disconfirm characters whenever they are hinted, you already know the list
-Sakurai is athe master troll

So, mix this. Sakurai hints us, making the world believe Ridley is a boss WITHOUT SAYING he is a boss. This makes up for the tease, people wanting him playable, haters wanting him as an hazzard/boss but not diconfirming him cause he didnt say his name nor showed more pics of him (Not even his design) and then the trolling is served.

Is that simple, if he was a simple stage hazzard why wouldnt he had said it in the first place? Like really, one entire year teasing with him and the end nothing? That seems unlikely, or at least 100 times more unlikely than him not being playable at this point.

We already know Ridley is in the game, and we have a lot of reasons for thinking he should be playable (Important to Metroid, iconic villain, Important to Nintendo, Demanded by fans, Metroid needs more representation at smash...). Plus, the classic "Its too big" argument doesnt stand a chance anymore, its countered heavily everywhere, and Sakurai was only scared of making him SLOW not big, according to what he said for Brawl

Agree with you! I really think that Nintendo does have time to be unique or stylish since Nintendo really needs to please as many fans as possible to earn back fame and $$.

Also, if Sakurai really has guts to deconfirm some other popular requests, how not Ridley the most request character since melee?

 

[AlexTLW]

can someone provide a link that shows Ridley is connected to the leak again. I need something to calm me down after that video.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Why can't we discuss the leak? It obviously has relation to whether or not Ridley is in the game or not.

Anyways, as always Ridley is one of those guys caught in between, he's literally one of four other characters that are possibly in (others being Chorus Kids, Dixie and Mewtwo), so we'll see.

 

[Thor_Hammerschlag]

This. Note that it's under "speculation". Take everything with a grain of salt.

I cant really see how this confirms Ridley.

Because Ridley is only mentioned under "Speculation" - whatever exactly that means.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Its better to start give warnings to those who doesn't stops leak discussion (yes, i included my personal opinion on the leak situation, but it wasn't just about it and i am not continuing it...). That is a better way to stop them.

Why can't we discuss the leak? It obviously has relation to whether or not Ridley is in the game or not.

Not really. It doesn't affects him anyhow. And if moderators say you shouldn't, you shouldn't. Don't doubt them or question/whatever their logic. I really don't like leak discussion in Ridley thread too. Because of it, this thread flies off the cliff and unless we want it to crash land on the bottom of the pit this cliff leads to, we should not continue it. Please, moderators, stop it. At any cost. We have a separate thread for that, so, anyone who wants to discuss this leak must go to http://smashboards.com/threads/potential-roster-stage-leak-thread.364914/page-118

 

[Knight Dude]

I remember someone saying that this leaker didn't unlock All Star Mode. If, and only IF that's true. We could still see at least one other character. That could be anyone of course. It might be Ridley, or Mewtwo, or just the Ice Climbers. So if you don't want to give up just yet, there's that.

Overall, I'm happy with the roster. I got my most wanted character back at the First E3 Smash 4 was at. So I could go either way. But I know some people here feel much more strongly about this kind of stuff than I do.

Does anyone have any more info on this leak?

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Not really. It doesn't affects him anyhow. And if moderators say you shouldn't, you shouldn't. Don't doubt them or question/whatever their logic. I really don't like leak discussion in Ridley thread too. Because of it, this thread flies off the cliff and unless we want it to crash land on the bottom of the pit this cliff leads to, we should not continue it.

I question people's decisions, whether they're mods or not. But sure, I'll drop it, but at this point I don't really think circlejerking like we've done for over a year and ignoring this critical proof will benefit the thread either.

 

[Shaya]

I don't mind you talking about how this leak effects ridley, but yeah, keep the general discussion of the leak/the rest of the roster to that thread. We don't need multiple leak "threads" happening at once~

 

[Captain Fun]

EDIT: Disregard this. I made a mistake.

 

[Phaazoid]

I remember someone saying that this leaker didn't unlock All Star Mode. If, and only IF that's true. We could still see at least one other character. That could be anyone of course. It might be Ridley, or Mewtwo, or just the Ice Climbers. So if you don't want to give up just yet, there's that.

This is pretty much what we're betting on at this point.

I've maintained that leaks that don't show the entire roster don't really affect Ridley, as we know he's in the game in some form

This leak is legit, but if the all star thing is right, doesn't have the full roster. This means Ridley's chances are unchanged.

 

[Kenith]

I don't mind you talking about how this leak effects ridley, but yeah, keep the general discussion of the leak/the rest of the roster to that thread. We don't need multiple leak "threads" happening at once~

Is there still a normal Leak thread, or is it a Group thread now?
Regardless, a link would be appreciated.

 

[Thor_Hammerschlag]

I don't mind you talking about how this leak effects ridley, but yeah, keep the general discussion of the leak/the rest of the roster to that thread. We don't need multiple leak "threads" happening at once~

Im absolutly fine with that.

However, isnt it just fine if we just discuss the very little "Ridley part" of that leak?