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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

.Shìkì

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Seriously hoping Sakurai takes puts something like this for Ridley's reveal:




I will also except:

Ridley sizes up the competition.
Ridley makes his big debut.
Ridley is the boss.
Ridley makes a hazard.

Can you guys think of any good ones? :)
Oh boy... They are all awesome. Can't think of anything but "Ridley squeezes in", Kudos to whoever came up with that.
 
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Ah yea indeed, Bowser Jr. is at least interesting unlike the rest of the newcomers.

Why do you think it is not the final roster?
Imo it just looks weird (not finished graphically).
How come people think Duck Hunt Dog won't be interesting? :crying:

He could be really interesting! I'm actually ok with the leaked newcomers, I'm ok with Shulk and Bowser Jr along with DHD just as long as Mewtwo and Ridley are there as well. (Also K.Rool)
 
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Seriously hoping Sakurai takes puts something like this for Ridley's reveal:




I will also except:

Ridley sizes up the competition.
Ridley makes his big debut.
Ridley is the boss.
Ridley makes a hazard.

Can you guys think of any good ones? :)
Ridley make's his BIG reveal?

How come people think Duck Hunt Dog won't be interesting? :crying:

He could be really interesting! I'm actually ok with the leaked newcomers, I'm ok with Shulk and Bowser Jr along with DHD just as long as Mewtwo and Ridley are there as well. (Also K.Rool)
Well unless Sakurai pulls a :4mii: with DHD, I will forever have a biased hate towards DHD.
 
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How come people think Duck Hunt Dog won't be interesting? :crying:

He could be really interesting! I'm actually ok with the leaked newcomers, I'm ok with Shulk and Bowser Jr along with DHD just as long as Mewtwo and Ridley are there as well. (Also K.Rool)
This makes me wonder why Ganon isn't part of the Big Three. I mean, yes, it's popularity based and M2, Rley and Krol are pretty much the most popular (villains) out there. Why is the big pig the underdog now?
But I'm tangetificating and off topic. Somewhat.

Ridley make's his BIG reveal?
I really hope they came up with something different actually. Is there any other way to poke fun at him somehow with the splash text?
 

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So, is there anyone who is actually considered slight competition for Ridley.
There is really no one who I think could make sense as a Metroid newcomer besides Ridley.
Except for maybe that one guy.......



 
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How come people think Duck Hunt Dog won't be interesting? :crying:

He could be really interesting! I'm actually ok with the leaked newcomers, I'm ok with Shulk and Bowser Jr along with DHD just as long as Mewtwo and Ridley are there as well. (Also K.Rool)

I mean its a Dog. That Dog might be funny for one or two rounds, but it would never get my main character.



:falcon64:
I am playing with the same chars since melee, :bowsermelee::falconmelee::ganondorfmelee:(:mewtwomelee:)
the brawl newcomers which where interesing for me were :charizard::wolf:
but for some reason i kept on playing with the ones i played since melee.

i just dont want to play another smash game with the same characters yet again.


The only reason i would buy the WiiU is smash4, same thing happened for brawl.
No Ridley, no WiiU for me. Its just not worth all the money :mad088::urg::upsidedown:
 
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That's a fan made website.
Ah, in any case, well put together, didn't spot it before today.

Pyrosphere is confirmed Wii U only. The website stages page has sections for Wii U Stages, 3DS Stages, and Shared Stages. Pyrosphere is on the Wii U section.
In which case I'd say that I really can't see how they would only include Ridley in one game (as a boss that is), especially when they bothered to have Wily Castle featuring Yellow Devil in both.

Ah yea indeed, Bowser Jr. is at least interesting unlike the rest of the newcomers.

Why do you think it is not the final roster?
Imo it just looks weird (not finished graphically).
Probably because it's fake. There are so many issues with it. That said, the information may well be true, as it seems that it was put together based on a more credible leak.
 

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So, is there anyone who is actually considered slight competition for Ridley.
There is really no one who I think could make sense as a Metroid newcomer besides Ridley.
Except for maybe that one guy.......



Dark Samus has pretty go-
oh wait
Anthony is...nah. One-timer of a badly received game, popularity based solely on the fact he is the only person in the game that isn't a dork to samus. Is dressed like a Generic. No thank you.
 

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whats going on with all this boss talk. have you guys been drinking the water lol
Oh, no. A magazine stated exactly what we already knew (well, except Ridley being playable of course), and we got all upset that instead of one of us, it was a magazine that stated the blatantly obvious.
No, I do not get why either.
 

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@CaptainAmerica: There's nothing stating that Ridley has to explode. For all we know defeating him just stops him from harassing players for a while.
The benefit to defeating the Yellow Devil is the explosion that damages everyone who didn't kill the Devil. While we don't know the benefit to killing Dark Emperor, it can be inferred that killing the Dark Emperor will probably give you an extended stat boost. Thing is I don't know how killing Bossley would benefit the killer, Non-Meta Ridley doesn't really explode, and giving the player a stat boost is extremely out of character.
 

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Seriously hoping Sakurai takes advantage of the speculation and puts something like this for Ridley's reveal:

I will also except:

Ridley sizes up the competition.
Ridley makes his big debut.
Ridley is the boss.
Ridley makes a hazard.

Can you guys think of any good ones? :)
ridley makes a big splash!

ridley smashes his way in!

those are the only ones i can think of.
 

PeterJude

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whats going on with all this boss talk. have you guys been drinking the water lol
It's late in the piece and it's probably worth discussing the possibilities and remaining.

He's almost certainly in, but you never know what they may have decided.
 

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"1. It's a stage surrounded by scorching heat and lava. It's a relatively simple layout with one main floating platform with a few smaller platforms above it, but there seems to be the shadow of "something" giant...? 2,3. The more detailed information on the tricks of this stage are still unclear, but this is not actually such a simple stage."

I'm sure he's almost certainly in, guys :(
 
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"1. It's a stage surrounded by scorching heat and lava. It's a relatively simple layout with one main floating platform with a few smaller platforms above it, but there seems to be the shadow of "something" giant...? 2,3. The more detailed information on the tricks of this stage are still unclear, but this is not actually such a simple stage."

I'm sure he's almost certainly in, guys :(
We already know Ridley's in, there's no doubt about that. We've seen the footage and all. The ROLE, on the other hand, has not been specified. Hell, even the magazine doesn't have a clue.
 

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We already know Ridley's in, there's no doubt about that. We've seen the footage and all. The ROLE, on the other hand, has not been specified. Hell, even the magazine doesn't have a clue.
It specifically mentions that something big on the stage will make it more than just a simple stage.

If even the magazine doesn't know, Nintendo must really want to keep the stage boss Ridley a secret though.
to one day reveal in a POTD and crush everyone's dreams
 
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Pyrosphere is the name of the entire sector, I believe. Samus fought five bosses there.
Out of curiosity, do you remember which exact one made a vague appearance on Pyrosphere during Sakurai's explanation of other stage bosses aside from the Yellow Devil?

It may be time to stop grasping at straws and just start discussing the contents of Ridley's most likely role in the game. Let's hope they do him justice.

However, if the community reaction to the Yellow Devil is anything to take from, people will likely never play on Pyrosphere (Ridley Version) because he just interrupts the fight too much and people will find it annoying. *Shrug, I personally think having a boss annoy the crap out of everyone in a FFA is pretty fun, so that doesn't include me. I hope he's fierce and beats the crap out of people.
 

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POTD - Friday, September 12, 2014
One of the many secrets that have captivated the world of Super Smash Bros. has been the boss of the Wii U's Pryosphere stage. I'm pleased to end the confusion and mystery with the announcement of Ridley as the Pryosphere boss... in his Nintendo Land form! Super Smash Bros. for 3DS comes out tomorrow in Japan, buy a copy and play as the real Ridley!
 

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It specifically mentions that something big on the stage will make it more than just a simple stage.

If even the magazine doesn't know, Nintendo must really want to keep the stage boss Ridley a secret though.
to one day reveal in a POTD and crush everyone's dreams
Uh, they said something about a big shadow appearing over it, and that the stage was not without gimmick. There wasn't explicitly stated to be a connection between the two.

Out of curiosity, do you remember which exact one made a vague appearance on Pyrosphere during Sakurai's explanation of other stage bosses aside from the Yellow Devil?

It may be time to stop grasping at straws and just start discussing the contents of Ridley's most likely role in the game. Let's hope they do him justice.

However, if the community reaction to the Yellow Devil is anything to take from, people will likely never play on Pyrosphere (Ridley Version) because he just interrupts the fight too much and people will find it annoying. *Shrug, I personally think having a boss annoy the crap out of everyone in a FFA is pretty fun, so that doesn't include me. I hope he's fierce and beats the crap out of people.
Muh. If the footage is anything to go by, he won't be a very good boss, or representative of the series at all. Ridley is known for attacking relentlessly and is rather quick.
IF he is a boss, I won't be too upset (I'm good at keeping myself from getting upset, which is a must for every Ridley supporter), but I really do hope they don't screw him up by making him predictable and slow, neither of which fit Ridley in any way.
 
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You people do realize Famitsu does not know anything more than the stage then we do right? Its just speculation in there part.
 

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Read the piece on Pyrosphere, they gave us no new info. All they said is that a shadow flys over it and its not a simple stage, which is what we already knew about it. This changes nothing, Ridley is still going to be playable.
 

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Read the piece on Pyrosphere, they gave us no new info. All they said is that a shadow flys over it and its not a simple stage, which is what we already knew about it. This changes nothing, Ridley is still going to be playable.
It was the Nintendo Dream or something, not Famitsu. But yes, all they said is that Pyrosphere does, in fact, have a gimmick of some description. That and the shadow. But we knew about the shadow already, they were reiterating known information.
 

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I'm still not buying this. Why go through all the trouble to tease something for this long in Miiverse updates regarding "not true to scale" size and the shadow thing from the Nintendo Direct only to have it be a stage boss/hazard (all of which have already been referenced directly)?

That would have been like saying "Hey, Megaman's FINALLY in the game... as an Assist Trophy".
 
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It was the Nintendo Dream or something, not Famitsu. But yes, all they said is that Pyrosphere does, in fact, have a gimmick of some description. That and the shadow. But we knew about the shadow already, they were reiterating known information.
It's pretty much like what they did with Dark Pit
 

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A look at the dream thing

And that definatly does not deconfirm ridley at all

Because we have to keep bringing up the toon link stunt


1 they could just be talking about the footage from the direct

2 ridley has ben cloned so that could be the clone one and the playable one is smaller.

And 3 they said its not a simple stage so the hazard can be anything as a matter fact this helps the theory of actually a scrolling stage of mutiple parts of the pyrosphere


Ridley will not be deconfirmed until sakurai saids so. (
 
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Out of curiosity, do you remember which exact one made a vague appearance on Pyrosphere during Sakurai's explanation of other stage bosses aside from the Yellow Devil?

It may be time to stop grasping at straws and just start discussing the contents of Ridley's most likely role in the game. Let's hope they do him justice.

However, if the community reaction to the Yellow Devil is anything to take from, people will likely never play on Pyrosphere (Ridley Version) because he just interrupts the fight too much and people will find it annoying. *Shrug, I personally think having a boss annoy the crap out of everyone in a FFA is pretty fun, so that doesn't include me. I hope he's fierce and beats the crap out of people.
The fact we were shown Ridley's shadow during the boss explanation doesn't mean Ridley is confirmed to be the Pyrosphere boss, it could still be one of the 4 other bosses that are fought in the Pyrosphere in Other M

We may be the kings and queens of grasping at straws, but it's much more fun to discuss a playable character than a boss. It's like if Sakurai hinted at a Shulk assist trophy by showing its shadow, but all the shadow did was stand in one spot and spin in a circle, wouldn't you find that odd? Wouldn't you want it to equate to something more?
 

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Famitsu implied that Dark pit was a boss to, so it means nothing on Ridley's chances because most likely they have no idea and both are going to be playable.
 

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Famitsu implied that Dark pit was a boss to, so it means nothing on Ridley's chances because most likely they have no idea and both are going to be playable.
Wait, when did Famitsu or whatever magazine imply any of this? Why did I miss this? Have you guys been keeping intel from me?
 
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Could this be the boss? Never played Other M. What if he grabs the sides of the stage switching between the two sides and that's when you can attack him. I dunno I feel like I'm grasping straws here.

The Smash Pyrosphere is where Samus fought Ridley so would another boss feel out of place?
 
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I don't know if this has been considered but watching that Ridley clip from the Direct I noticed something.

I personally think the way he moved in the trailer is more of a clue than how he looks. If you watch the clip you'll see that he flies on, stops, repeats a hovering animation and instantly moves on at the same speed. This seems like very strange movements for a Stage Hazard. In fact if you compare it to the other stage bosses in the other games (Including Master Hand, Crazy Hand, Tabuu and all the Subspace Bosses, plus things like Yellow Devil, Find Mii and Mushroom Kingdom U), the only case I can find of this kind of behaviour is from character that are based on actual playable characters in the games (Namely the Shadow Characters from Subspace, and Giga Bowser).

All other bosses tend to have "zones" on the stage that they swap in and out of (Mainly on either end of the stage, save for characters like Tabuu). When they consider it time to move between zones they either attack or very swiftly zip to the other end of the stage. IMO the movements that the Ridley shadow casts is much more consistent with the movement of a player.

Of course it's also possible that Ridley is both a stage hazard and playable, if that is the case I personally believe that if somebody picks Ridley on Pyrosphere the stage hazard role will go to Meta Ridley.
 

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Ok, while there seems to be some ludicrous thought of Ridley being a stage hazard, let's just talk about why he'll suck as one, ok?

1. He moves slow, doesn't attack, and is smaller then his Brawl incarnation.
2. Everyone and their mama have seen Ridley as a boss. So nothing new.
3. Everyone, including detractors, will get pissed off with a gimmick on a stage that brings no diversity.
4. He's not playable.

If Ridley's not a playable character with the reasons above making him seem like a bad choice for a hazard, then that's all Sakurai's fault. For someone to say they want this Smash to be the best Smash, a boss gimmick given to Ridley seems to be spouting BS towards the fan base.

I can't say this about the people here, but I be damned to let anything, be it a leak, a article, or anyone on this planet that isn't Sakurai himself, tell me "Ridley ain't playable" and take that seriously.
 

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I don't know if this has been considered but watching that Ridley clip from the Direct I noticed something.

I personally think the way he moved in the trailer is more of a clue than how he looks. If you watch the clip you'll see that he flies on, stops, repeats a hovering animation and instantly moves on at the same speed. This seems like very strange movements for a Stage Hazard. In fact if you compare it to the other stage bosses in the other games (Including Master Hand, Crazy Hand, Tabuu and all the Subspace Bosses, plus things like Yellow Devil, Find Mii and Mushroom Kingdom U), the only case I can find of this kind of behaviour is from character that are based on actual playable characters in the games (Namely the Shadow Characters from Subspace, and Giga Bowser).
True, this is what we have deducted ourselves too. The quick transitionless movement from hovering to flying was very suspicious indeed.

All other bosses tend to have "zones" on the stage that they swap in and out of (Mainly on either end of the stage, save for characters like Tabuu). When they consider it time to move between zones they either attack or very swiftly zip to the other end of the stage. IMO the movements that the Ridley shadow casts is much more consistent with the movement of a player.
True once again, but I really hope that IF he is a boss, he won't be doing what you mentioned, which is sticking to a set pattern.

Of course it's also possible that Ridley is both a stage hazard and playable, if that is the case I personally believe that if somebody picks Ridley on Pyrosphere the stage hazard role will go to Meta Ridley.
This probably isn't possible. Meta Ridley has different proportions, and thus hitboxes, compared to Roidley. This would basically mean that they'd need to code two seperate bosses.
 

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True, this is what we have deducted ourselves too. The quick transitionless movement from hovering to flying was very suspicious indeed.
I figured with 1600+ pages it was likely this had been brought up, but I thought it was worth mentioning :p
 

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To quote Venus from another thread:
That entire article was mostly based on speculation. Famitsu doesn't have much inside information and the information that they actually have is probably given to them by Sakurai. Considering Sakurai has been stringing up Ridley for an entire year....he isn't going to let Famitsu have the honors. Famitsu is just as in the dark as we are about certain things.
I guess this magazine thing doesn't change the ridley situation at all...
 
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