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But then he will be very close to s**t tier if he is garbage on the ground. Aerial game won't help him much if he can't get enemies off the ground. Kinda like Pichu's pointless size advantage (Pichu is very small, so, its hard to hit him/her, but that charater is still s**t tier). THAT is not proper way to represent Ridley. It is incorrect one. Worse than Ganondorf's since that guy is at least really strong without any weapons.
I love you, but don't drink that gosh darned splounge water.
Don't forget the aerial game consists of Nair, Uair, Dair, Fair, and Bair. If Sakurai is listening to the competitive scene L-canceling, would help him (and the other characters, with out L-canceling that cripples characters aerials) a lot and he'd probably be one of the only characters that can grab while air-borne (that would be very interesting).
I'm not jealous or anything, as a supporter of Ridley, I just find the longevity of Ridley flying up in the air strange and to me makes me think he's a stage hazard.
How would this new mechanic of long air game work while being balanced then?
Still, it won't get higher than low tier. Imagine Meta Knight that is as bad as Ganondorf ("garbage"). Will he be even close to high tier? No. Either way, it is wrong way to represent Ridley. He is not that bad on the ground. He is more like a crocodile out of the water - not as dangerous as when he is in the water (in air in Ridley's case), where he has higher mobility and just speed, but you really don't want to go near him. Just look at Other M Ridley fight! Does THAT fight looks horribly easy? No. Ridley is better in the air, no one doubts that, but he is not helpless on the ground, unlike pterosaurs for example.
Peach can jump, jump again, hover, then use Up B to slowly hover down while being able to attack and then (i think) reuse this attack. So, its not that bad. It could have some kind of stamina meter that would limit it and work like ROB's Neutral B or his Up B.
: Ridley will charge towards his opponents like he did in Brawl at 20% damage minimum with decent knockback. Sweetspot is somewhere around the tip of his snout, causing damage around 29%. The player has the option to continue the side smash if he or she connects with a player, making Ridley swipe at them. You can tilt the angle of Ridley's claw for either a meteor smash or an aerial smash if you want them flying in a star KO.: Ridley will unleash his stinger-tail at the opponents at 22% damage minimum, and 30% damage maximum, with 36% damage at sweetspot (the tail-spike). Like the Side-Smash, you can tilt the angle to which his stinger-tail will land, and possibly even control its overall distance depending on how long you charge it.: Ridley will start charging a plasma ball in his mouth, and will spit it upward for 15% damage minimum. If fully charged, it will hit at 31% damage, going at an even further distance.: Ridley swings his tail in an arch at 10% damage if sourspotted, 15% sweetspotted.: Ridley swings his right claw above his head (think Bowser), which has some pretty weak knockback but decent damage around 17%.
Yes, Rodan is not that helpless on the ground, but he is obviously better in the air, he does not looks like actual pterosaur and Fire Rodan is better because freakin' laser beams.As for "helpless pterosaurs" on the ground, you obviously haven't met Rodan.
2D games are short too unless you don't know what to do. And you can use Power Bombs after Queen Metroid's fight like you did in the tutorial.
How is giving him a good air game a incorrect way to represent him? Plus we don't know how the tier lists would go this time around since some characters have received buffs and nerfs here and there. But even then, the team can't help where someone ends up on the tier list after release (Well we have the technology for patches so that is not a problem), it was Brawls engine that made certain characters worse that what they were. Look: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Tier_list look at where Capt. Falcon and Ganondorf were in Melee in comparison to Brawl. But what I'm saying is if they want to keep balance, they'd have to make his game on the ground significantly worse than it is in the air, I don't see how balancing his air and ground game properly is not representing him properly, unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.
To be fair, OG Rodan had hurricane breath. I'm surprised that it hadn't been seen since....
Well, I never thought Little Mac's K.O. meter was that balanced, either, or the fact Rosalina and her partner can be in two different spots of the battlefield. I mean c'mon, its a free OHKO! It could be that Ridley's hover is like Mewtwo's in Project M, where he can hover in any direction, but it consumes his second jump.
Turning him into a garbage on the game even if you will make him really good in the air is the incorrect way to represent him. "Garbage" is not the first thing that comes to your mind when you see Ridley on the ground in Metroid games. Making it as good as Bowser (not very good, but not bad) will be better than turning him into garbage on the ground. Yes, Little Mac is garbage in the air, but what would you expect from a boxer in the air?
What does "OG" means? It still doesn't sounds as awesome as heat/fire beam.
OG = Original. Or at least in this sense.
I just find the fact that Rosalina is basically two separate fighters in one to be strange and to me makes me think she's an Assist Trophy.
I always thought a tail swipe would do better. If we get Roidley, the blade of the tail would make a brilliant sweetspot!
My moveset for Ridley already contains plenty of tail-swipes and jabs with his tail-spike, so I wanted to use some attacks that involved him swiping at other opponents. He does do that quite often in the Prime series and Other M.
But what about balance? How are you going to make someone incredibly good in the air without making his play-style on the ground worse. I didn't seriously mean make him complete garbage on the ground. I'm saying balance him out to where he's outstanding in the air and somewhat viable on the ground.
Ridley is not a dragon though, so, he is flying-fire type...are those weaker than fairy-types?
Then its ok if he isn't complete garbage. Close to BRAWL Bowser would be perfect. SSB4 Bowser, from what i've heard, would be complete overkill and would turn Ridley into God Tier guy.
Fire resists Fairy. But if Ridley is Fire/Flying like Charizard....
JIGGLYPUFF CONFIRMED 2 BE RIDLEY RIVAL! THE FAIRY-TYPING EXISTS FOR A GREATER PURPOSE THAN WE COULD IMAGINE!
is coming!
(Insert obligitory "Don't Drink the Water" statement here)So ive been following the forum for about a year now and thought it time i join as I am very much on the hype train and Thinks its time I chuck my two cents in.
So from watching the the shadow video to many times to count and seeing everyones theories.
It seems like ridley is doing his infamous downward tail attack in the air pauses then repeats from a hover stance.
As for him getting confirmed it makes sense a villains trailer would be happening as the new zelda game got released in japan and theres been no sign of a new zelda rep (relating to the trophy theory)
And to add old sport sakurai out right deconfirms characters and this is not the case cause he hasn't even once mentioned his name and after every smash bros he obviously would of become aware that the westeners a froffing for the purple guy!!!!
And as august seems to be the month of metroid aniverasries in general, lack of villains (which I think is intentional so we cant distinguish who will be a boss or playable), and lack of any substantial announcements this month (minus meta knight)
I think it only makes sense within the next fortnight something "big"
And that old riddles is playable, as for design (I could be wrong thinking this being new) but due to that new samus light suit costume. I think it is plausible that a new design of ridley for the game possibly promoting a new metroid could be used. Just a thought though!
Wait...Ridley completly OWNS Jigglypuff with one of his attacks at 0%...he takes 2x less damage from fire attacks...he takes more damage from electric, ice and water attacks...then who is he? Was i right about him being flying/fire type or it is more fitting for dragon type? And what if he is dragon/fire type?Fire resists Fairy. But if Ridley is Fire/Flying like Charizard....
....then there's still Pikachu....the one who shot Ridley down in the first place....
And now Greninja. Which is much worse.
He's Ridley Type.
thall shalt not drink thy water!
Ridley's a Dark/Dragon/Flying/Plasma Type.
...That makes sense i guess...he deserves his own type.
So, he isn't weak against anything or what?
He isn't a dragon. So, he isn't dragon-type. You are disowned from our thread/crew for having your opinion on that debate.
Obviously, Ridley is better. Its as simple as saying what happens in a non-spin off Mario game.
Sweet.
Which Ridley are you talking about? I didn't quite get that.
...B..but.....Ridley's a space dragon, right? I'm only following Pokémon fanboy logic, here!
That is the point. I was talking about Ridley. Isn't that obvious?Which Ridley are you talking about? I didn't quite get that.
He isn't a dragon however. So, you are still disowned from our thread/crew (which one i should use?).