Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Naglfarii]

You seem familiar and unwelcome

Attacking Sakurai because you build expectations out of nothing should be unwelcome, no matter how you personally feel about ridley

 

[SmilingMad]

This is what I think too, slow movement speed but very fast attacks, would seem like a good balance.

If he gets a dashing command grab like the one in Other M he could easily cover large distances really quickly. That, and fast attacks also give the illusion that Ridley is faster than he really is. Then again, Anti-Mac is supposed to be slow and clunky, so I kind of expect his ground attacks to be less than stellar also.

 

[WayfaringElf]

Attacking Sakurai because you build expectations out of nothing should be unwelcome, no matter how you personally feel about ridley

We're not hyping him from nothing, we've anaylized Sakurai's past behavior, showing how he disconfirms characters without a second though, not dragging it out in wonder for a year. He doesn't like false speculation, and something so vague would only cause such a thing. Also the shadow moving like a pc.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Attacking Sakurai because you build expectations out of nothing should be unwelcome, no matter how you personally feel about ridley

Sakurai stated he doesn't want false hype and disconfirmed every NPC so far, including Dark Emperor and Yellow Devil

 

[RidleyDX]

Sakurai stated he doesn't want false hype and disconfirmed every NPC so far, including Dark Emperor and Yellow Devil

We're not hyping him from nothing, we've anaylized Sakurai's past behavior, showing how he disconfirms characters without a second though, not dragging it out in wonder for a year. He doesn't like false speculation, and something so vague would only cause such a thing. Also the shadow moving like a pc.

Yet again people still think Ridley's the exception to this rule

 

[Naglfarii]

We're not hyping him from nothing, we've anaylized Sakurai's past behavior, showing how he disconfirms characters without a second though, not dragging it out in wonder for a year. He doesn't like false speculation, and something so vague would only cause such a thing. Also the shadow moving like a pc.

You're making a lot of assumptions that are on some really shaky ground. A healthy dose of skepticism would do people a lot of good. One thing I am sure of is that not every wanted character is gonna be in the game

 

[---]

If Sakurai does end up making Ridley a boss (playable or not), he deserves every single flame headed his way, and them some. There is absolutely no excuse for him not to give Ridley a proper de-confirmation, as opposed to playing with the heart strings of the Smash Bros. fanbase for a year.

Just keep the flaming somewhere else. You can all expect no mercy from the staff here should anyone (supporters & detractors) choose to "act up" when Ridley is eventually confirmed/de-confirmed.

 

[WayfaringElf]

You're making a lot of assumptions that are on some really shaky ground. A healthy dose of skepticism would do people a lot of good. One thing I am sure of is that not every wanted character is gonna be in the game

You're not listening to what I'm saying are you?
Waluigi - Quick, swift, disconfirmation with role stated
Prince Sable- role stated, disconfirmed
Takamaru- Role stated, disconfirmed.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

You're making a lot of assumptions that are on some really shaky ground. A healthy dose of skepticism would do people a lot of good. One thing I am sure of is that not every wanted character is gonna be in the game

The thing is, Sakurai has posted daily updates for a year, and if Ridley isn't playable, he seems to have only broken this pattern once

 

[Naglfarii]

Yet again people still think Ridley's the exception to this rule

I mean that's a fan rule and the assumption that it's a hard rule is kinda out of no where.

I'm not saying ridley has zero chance, but let's say he's not playable. The hype here and the following disappointment wouldn't be Sakurai's fault

 

[Reila]

One thing I am sure of is that not every wanted character is gonna be in the game

I agree. But Ridley will be playable in the game, that is for sure.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I mean that's a fan rule and the assumption that it's a hard rule is kinda out of no where.

I'm not saying ridley has zero chance, but let's say he's not playable. The hype here and the following disappointment wouldn't be Sakurai's fault

It will be, Sakurai has only teased characters so far

 

[SmilingMad]

You're making a lot of assumptions that are on some really shaky ground. A healthy dose of skepticism would do people a lot of good. One thing I am sure of is that not every wanted character is gonna be in the game

Not really though. Sakurai has been very, very consistent with deconfirming characters like that. Unless the "Ridley is exception" meme is truly a thing now.

 

[Naglfarii]

The thing is, Sakurai has posted daily updates for a year, and if Ridley isn't playable, he seems to have only broken this pattern once

There could be a lot of reasons for that though. Ridley was only teased as a boss, unlike the full reveals of yellow devil or chrom or various assist trophies. Sakurai might have thought his implications were sufficiently clear it could be the smash bros team is only trying to be extra clear now because of the Chrom confusion. Etc etc

You're making educated guesses but they're only guesses, not actual rules

 

[Cutie Gwen]

There could be a lot of reasons for that though. Ridley was only teased as a boss, unlike the full reveals of yellow devil or chrom or various assist trophies. Sakurai might have thought his implications were sufficiently clear it could be the smash bros team is only trying to be extra clear now because of the Chrom confusion. Etc etc

You're making educated guesses but they're only guesses, not actual rules

Ah! Then Palutena was teased as a background character or not playable at all! Look at the 2nd post please!

 

[TheWozny]

Can we not argue about the same crap over and over again. Keep your beliefs to yourself and read the second post on this thread.

 

[SmilingMad]

There could be a lot of reasons for that though. Ridley was only teased as a boss, unlike the full reveals of yellow devil or chrom or various assist trophies. Sakurai might have thought his implications were sufficiently clear it could be the smash bros team is only trying to be extra clear now because of the Chrom confusion. Etc etc

You're making educated guesses but they're only guesses, not actual rules

So why hasn't Sakurai gone out of his way to deconfirm Ridley yet? I mean, if they are now avoiding to make the same thing happen, why are they not fixing that one mistake that made them so cautious in the first place?

 

[WayfaringElf]

There could be a lot of reasons for that though. Ridley was only teased as a boss, unlike the full reveals of yellow devil or chrom or various assist trophies. Sakurai might have thought his implications were sufficiently clear it could be the smash bros team is only trying to be extra clear now because of the Chrom confusion. Etc etc

You're making educated guesses but they're only guesses, not actual rules

Few people were confused about Chrom being playable after that trailer, but Sakurai explicitly stated that Chrom was part of Robin's fs, the confusion around Ridley is much much larger and he never stated that "Ridley is a boss" only that boss characters make appearences on other stages.

 

[Naglfarii]

Ah! Then Palutena was teased as a background character or not playable at all! Look at the 2nd post please!

I've read the second post and it didn't convince me the way it seems to have convinced you

 

[DraginHikari]

Well, in the manga she has PTSD as well;

Spoiler

she begs to be killed before Ridley comes to destroy her

Though, I've skipped through pages and idk the whole story.

Well to be fair, it makes sense in the context in the Manga where it was the first time that Samus would end up fighting with Ridley then it does in other M because of what happens between where that would have taken place and when Other M does.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I've read the second post and it didn't convince me the way it seems to have convinced you

Admit, It's strange that we only have a shadow and tail tip after almost 1 whole year

 

[Bedoop]

There could be a lot of reasons for that though. Ridley was only teased as a boss, unlike the full reveals of yellow devil or chrom or various assist trophies. Sakurai might have thought his implications were sufficiently clear it could be the smash bros team is only trying to be extra clear now because of the Chrom confusion. Etc etc

You're making educated guesses but they're only guesses, not actual rules

I like you.
You may be a detractor, but you put up a good fight with (mostly) fair logic and reasoning.
Although it'd be great to have someone like you on our side, to each their own.

 

[Naglfarii]

Few people were confused about Chrom being playable after that trailer, but Sakurai explicitly stated that Chrom was part of Robin's fs, the confusion around Ridley is much much larger and he never stated that "Ridley is a boss" only that boss characters make appearences on other stages.

there was a lot of confusion about chrom right after the live trailer, when people couldn't yet go back and watch again.

 

[AustarusIV]

I can't stand this waiting for the next Direct. It's almost been a year since the teasing started.

Now I know how Palutena fans felt after the leaked picture and subsequent trolling with "Pseudo-Palutena" in the Direct.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I've read the second post and it didn't convince me the way it seems to have convinced you

That's fair enough, its job isn't to convince everybody, it's to give an insight as to why some of us believe he's not out of the running.

 

[Deleted member]

Technically btw

If we're talking canon...

Only a Link and Zelda can destroy Ganondorf, TECHNICALLY. So no reason they can nerf Ripley's Believe It Or Not just a little.

I know you said technically, but while Ganondorf's near-immunity can be negated by Link and Zelda within their universe, that doesn't mean anyone from another universe can't also defeat him.

Which still helps your point, considering Ridley may be a tough mofo in context of the Metroid universe, he can still feasibly get his ass kicked by someone from another universe entirely.
I mean, didn't Pikachu of all characters ground Ridley with a single Thunder?

 

[WayfaringElf]

there was a lot of confusion about chrom right after the live trailer, when people couldn't yet go back and watch again.

Then there is also alot of confusion about Ridley, chrom didn't have splash art and a punny pun.
Why have they not come clean?

 

[Nietona]

I mean that's a fan rule and the assumption that it's a hard rule is kinda out of no where.

I'm not saying ridley has zero chance, but let's say he's not playable. The hype here and the following disappointment wouldn't be Sakurai's fault

It would be Sakurai's fault. Not because we've chosen to hype up "nothing", but because he would have let us hype up "nothing". He disconfirmed Chrom officially, and not Ridley? Sakurai would deserve (nearly) everything he would receive.

There's nothing wrong with believing Ridley to be a boss, but to claim that we're on shaky ground is to ignore what Sakurai has done to make Ridley "the exception", which is ground so shaky it's like a massage chair.

 

[Skyblade12]

Idk if they could really make an anti Mac character either, because there's a lot more ground attacks than aerials thanks to smash attacks.

I can see how itd be challenging to make ridley a character that fits in smash but there's hope that it's possible if charizard can work

There are now aerial smashes. Robin has been confirmed to have some. I see no reason why Ridley could not as well.

 

[AustarusIV]

there was a lot of confusion about chrom right after the live trailer, when people couldn't yet go back and watch again.

Immediately after the trailer, the pages for Robin and Lucina appeared on the main site, and yet Chrom never got his.

Also, Chrom is featured on one of the pictures for Robin's page, evidently showing that he's a Final Smash. He also never got his own Splash quote, unlike those two.

After the April Direct, why haven't we gotten any pictures of Ridley on Pyrosphere if he was confirmed to be a stage hazard?

 

[Naglfarii]

I like you.
You may be a detractor, but you put up a good fight with (mostly) fair logic and reasoning.
Although it'd be great to have someone like you on our side, to each their own.

I actually would really like ridley to be playable, he's one of Nintendo's coolest villains. I just don't think it's super likely. But mostly I wanted to say don't blame Sakurai for leading you on if he doesn't get in, because he really hasn't led you on. There's a lot of inferring here that wasn't necessarily implied

 

[4cast]

Wii U For U Wii U for U U 4 Wii U U Wii 4 U Wii U Bundle anyways Rids is just in a waiting game right now just be patient!

 

[Skyblade12]

Immediately after the trailer, the pages for Robin and Lucina appeared on the main site, and yet Chrom never got his.

Also, Chrom is featured on one of the pictures for Robin's page, evidently showing that he's a Final Smash. He also never got his own Splash quote, unlike those two.

After the April Direct, why haven't we gotten any pictures of Ridley on Pyrosphere if he was confirmed to be a stage hazard?

The trailer was also immediately put up when Robin's page went live, so people could go back and watch it almost immediately, long before the confirmation tweet.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I can't stand this waiting for the next Direct. It's almost been a year since the teasing started.

Now I know how Palutena fans felt after the leaked picture and subsequent trolling with "Pseudo-Palutena" in the Direct.

Except that tease pretty much confirmed her entirely, and she also had a fairly believable leak, Sakurai bias, and previous tease backing her up, she was never really at risk. Ridley has been at the edge for over a year now, so this is a lot more frustrating than just waiting for the inevitable trailer, because we can't know the outcome for sure, some people might pretend to but as we can see from the polarizing opinions on the subject it's clear the fanbase as a whole is at a loss in regards to Ridley.

 

[AustarusIV]

Except that tease pretty much confirmed her entirely, and she also had a fairly believable leak, Sakurai bias, and previous tease backing her up, she was never really at risk. Ridley has been at the edge for over a year now, so this is a lot more frustrating than just waiting for the inevitable trailer, because we can't know the outcome for sure, some people might pretend to but as we can see from the polarizing opinions on the subject it's clear the fanbase as a whole is at a loss in regards to Ridley.

I'm referring to the tension on waiting for the next Direct. Ridley's no shoo-in, but for those of us who are anxiously waiting for him to get revealed, it's very frustrating.

I just want this mess done and over with.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Detractor after I mentioned possible Alfonzo: "...So you think the Yellow Devil could be playable?"

 

[Naglfarii]

Immediately after the trailer, the pages for Robin and Lucina appeared on the main site, and yet Chrom never got his.

Also, Chrom is featured on one of the pictures for Robin's page, evidently showing that he's a Final Smash. He also never got his own Splash quote, unlike those two.

After the April Direct, why haven't we gotten any pictures of Ridley on Pyrosphere if he was confirmed to be a stage hazard?

They haven't shown much of stage hazard bosses at all, just yellow devil which no one liked at e3. Could be lots of reasons for that. Maybe it's because he's playable but that isn't the only possible reason so I wouldn't bank so hard on it

 

[Cutie Gwen]

They haven't shown much of stage hazard bosses at all, just yellow devil which no one liked at e3. Could be lots of reasons for that. Maybe it's because he's playable but that isn't the only possible reason so I wouldn't bank so hard on it

They showed the models, the bosses in the background and finally, they showed what they did when defeated, what could Ridley possibly do?

 

[Naglfarii]

The trailer was also immediately put up when Robin's page went live, so people could go back and watch it almost immediately, long before the confirmation tweet.

The site was crashing a bunch due to traffic but whatever. There was definitely a lot of confusion at first on social media so don't try to say there wasn't

 

[WayfaringElf]

The site was crashing a bunch due to traffic but whatever. There was definitely a lot of confusion at first on social media so don't try to say there wasn't

We're saying that there was confusion, and Sakurai cleared it up QUICKLY,
There is confusio on Ridley, no word of the hero of rice sacks.