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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

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in fact, he never moves from his spot, he performs instead what looks to be a roar during this hover phase (which doesn't seem to be getting disrupted) before continuing to move to the left.
He just hovers. Without really moving his head. His arms barely move too.
I was thinking about this. On an evolutionary basis, Ridley's species shouldn't have any reason to be so intelligent. They can fly, breathe fire, and they have sharp claws with a spiked tail. Therefore, the only reason they would need that much intellect is if every other predator on that planet is much, much more dangerous.
Then i guess there is an entire species of Samuses, with power suits and everything...or something really f***** up beyond what human's mind can comprehend.
Anything with half a brain would already single out Samus as the biggest threat in that situation.

I think intelligence is a natural trait. He's a dragon. Dragons are not stupid creatures. They're some of the longest lived, most cunning, most ruthless entities in fiction.
Obviously Anthony is the biggest threat in that situation if you didn't saw what Samus can do. He is the biggest and bulkiest of the group and has a giant gun. But Ridley waited for Samus to arrive instead of joining those creatures and enjoying that.

Ridley is obviously not a dragon. He just looks like something between a dragon and a pterosaurus and that something didn't ate anything for at least 1 year.
Even when the clone was a baby it watched Samus and knew she was the most dangerious, clone Ridley is just a monster taking out the biggest threat to him.

You heard me, cloned Ridley is just a monster, he does not compare to the genuine article.
He is still intelligent enough to at least be unique compared to other bosses and enemies. I already made a post that explains why Roidley is not just a mindless beast.
And if he would be just an animal, then he would never trick those scientists into entering his cage so he could kill them and escape. He could have remained in that cage since they were feeding him and he was just kinda like a pet.
THEORY TIME!

So we set the scene in Zero Mission, Ridley is a slick jet black, Samus kicks his a** and he is sent in to be rebuilt as meta Ridley, Ridley starts to lose color as he should be dead making him the trademark purple. He then fights Samus as his new robotic form, he loses but flees. Then in metroid prime 3 Ridley is slowly healing and turning a hue of blue as flesh starts to take over his body once more even before the phazon and is rapidly sped up in Omega Ridley form with the phazon. This is where he starts to heal to super metroid status, afterwards his body pushes out the unneeded robotic parts and he has returned to a normal purple hue, still watered down from his normal jet black, but it will suffice. Super metroid then marks the death of OG Ridley. As Roidley died as soon as he grew up, he never achieved Jet black coloring.
OR he just can change color like an chameleon, but a lot better (he can turn invisible). Like chameleons in fiction. He turns dark-grey in Other M when his skin becomes invincible to Plasma Beam. Also, in ZM, Ridley wasn't black. I don't know how this color is called, but it isn't black.
Ok. So, if Ridley was badly beat up in Metroid/Metroid Zero Mission, and had to be rebuilt into a half cyborg, how does he return to SR-388 in a fully organic form? He doesn't. Ridley is never in Super Metroid. It's another member of his species serving as Mother Brain's lackey. The real Ridley is Meta-Ridley. He's still out there... Waiting.
  1. He died on Zebes and there was absolutely NO SPACE PIRATES on SR-388.
  2. It is officialy confirmed or at least it is canonical, i don't remember, that Ridley is dead. And his clone. And that clone's X-parasite mimic. It doesn't means he will never return because there is still Space Pirates somewhere and they (and maybe Galactic Federation) would most likely store Ridley's DNA (and Kraid's since he somehow returned in SM after Samus killed him in ZM) just in case something like that happens. Or, you know, Metroid will not get Fusion sequel and will, just like LoZ, get only prequels, sequels of prequels, prequels or prequels, etc. Then we could get explanation why exactly Ridley is suddenly organic in SM.
Ridley survived events of Super Metroid only in that non-canonical SM comic. He escaped Zebes before even encountering Samus for 2nd time.

I noticed something about Galactic Federation - there is no other specieses shown except for humans and maybe Chozo and Luminoth. At least in the games. That is weird since there is supposed to be a lot of them...
 
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I've been noticing over the past few pages that you were all starting to see the brilliance that is Zero Mission Ridley. Accept him as the superior design, and you will be set free.
 

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Picture of the day: ♪Ba-ding!♪
thank you sakurai

So, has corocoro managed to leak anything of importance? Smash-related? Ridley-related? Other than that Salamence (which I actually quite like)?
 
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I've been noticing over the past few pages that you were all starting to see the brilliance that is Zero Mission Ridley. Accept him as the superior design, and you will be set free.
I like Roidley more than other designs for some reasons...ZM Ridley has huge feet and i don't like how his head looks like because his teeth are not sticking out like they do in every other design...and that is the only reason i don't like his head. Everything else in him is fine, but i like Roidley more. I would like him even more if his "beak" would be normal and his toes would be...um...separated.
ZM design is still 2nd best Ridley design. No matter how much you like other designs, we will get either Roidley or no Ridley at all. No "boss Roidley, playable Ridley", only "playable Roidley" or "boss Roidley".
 
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I like Roidley more than other designs for some reasons...ZM Ridley has huge feet and i don't like how his head looks like because his teeth are not sticking out like they do in every other design...and that is the only reason i don't like his head. Everything else in him is fine, but i like Roidley more. I would like him even more if his "beak" would be normal and his toes would be...um...separated.
ZM design is still 2nd best Ridley design. No matter how much you like other designs, we will get either Roidley or no Ridley at all. No "boss Roidley, playable Ridley", only "playable Roidley" or "boss Roidley".
...Or two playable Ridleys?
A man can dream I guess, but it's even more unlikely than getting an anime protagonist into the game.
 

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You have no idea what Metroid Fusions ending has done to me.. Forever wondering what samus will do now with a weakness to cold ect.

And I am personally one for series that never end but change over time and new characters being introduced.
Well, wonder no more, as it was stated by the game's director that Sammy became normal again when she absorbed SA-X. So she is no longer affected by cold.
 

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Wow! A Game boy stage! That's amazing!:bluejump::chuckle:
Literally a Game Boy themed stage.
Well, at least we know that both Kirby and Dedede have their blackwhite colour scheme.

Well, wonder no more, as it was stated by the game's director that Sammy became normal again when she absorbed SA-X. So she is no longer affected by cold.
Waaait a minute.
Ridley-->Dead
Ridley's Corpse-->Eaten by X-parasites-->Neo Ridley
Neo Ridley-->Deaded by Samus
Core X containing screw attack plus Ridley's DNA --> Eaten by Samus

Samusley confirmed.
Make it happen.
 

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Literally a Game Boy themed stage.
Well, at least we know that both Kirby and Dedede have their blackwhite colour scheme.


Waaait a minute.
Ridley-->Dead
Ridley's Corpse-->Eaten by X-parasites-->Neo Ridley
Neo Ridley-->Deaded by Samus
Core X containing screw attack plus Ridley's DNA --> Eaten by Samus

Samusley confirmed.
Make it happen.
Metroids do not assimilate X-parasites. They are not like that thing from The Thing or whatever that movie was called. So, most likely, Samus doesn't has his DNA and even if she does, it is altered. I doubt that she does. Otherwise...Samusley is not what we will get...it will be a lot worse...because Ridley isn't the only one.
To me, that is kinda like saying that Dark Samus is she or that it doesn't actually looks like a suit and instead looks a lot like Samus inside that suit. Since Dark Samus IS the Phazon suit+Metroid, that is impossible.
 
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Man the updates this week sucked ass. No charactertrailer announcement whatsoever. I'm turning into Salty Sandy if nothing goods will get announced this month.
 

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why do people keep hoping for "original ridley"? we've already seen other M ridley's tail and shadow... if we're getting one, im pretty sure its him.

personally, i kinda like other m ridley's appearance.

all that really matters is that ridley is playable... we'd be extremely lucky if that is the case, lets not be picky about WHICH ridley we want.
Give it an hour or two; everyone will forget. XD
 

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Saw this in the Krystal Thread. Made my day. =p
would be nice if ridley AND krystal both made it in... but i fear krystal will never be in... which is weird, since she would be unique and not just another damn clone of fox.

too bad krystal is a hero, it'd be kinda cool seeing her ride in on ridley's back in a trailer. :p
 

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I really hope we get to play the Genuine article Ridley and not any of his clones.

Would any of you guys/gals be offended if you got to play as clone ridley?
No? Any real fan would just be happy to play as Ridley period regardless of which incarnation. That kind of pickiness isn't really a luxury we have.

Errmm, I certainly don't remember any pieces of evidence that suggested the cloned Ridley has the original's memories. I still would rather have the original that has all his experience and underworldly connections.

I think my biggest problem with the cloned Ridley is that he came from an atrocious game that had so much more potential.
So if Other M had been a good game to you, you would've been fine with Roidley then?

New pic of the day. literally a gameboy stage. no metroid news again
The idea of playing as one of Ridley's sprite forms on the Game Boy stage (Zero Mission Ridley or something) does tickle my fancy though.

Seriously, with all these retro things the game has, like Pac-Man turning opponents into their NES selves IIRC, there's nowhere Ridley wouldn't fit.

I think I'm wrong on this, but didn't mother brain improve his intelligence so that he would be more useful? Ridley's species isn't even know to the galaxy.
Yeah, that was never stated or shown anywhere. If Ridley was only intelligent because of Mother Brain's influence, that would seriously kill a lot of the characters' appeal for me right there, nor would I have been able to take him as seriously.

You might be thinking of Phantoon, because its info stated that it fed off of Mother's brainwaves for more intelligence, power, or something.

I guess I gotta buy this manga because I haven't freaken seen it. though I am skeptical of its contents.
Good luck buying it. You'd be better off reading it for free online & translated off of the Metroid Database pages or something.

The way I interpret it with modern story is that Ridley, who lead the space pirates to Zebes to begin with, made use of the Mother Brain which was found there in order to have it control the space pirates and handle the operation. He basically let it do what it wanted and take charge because being a chozo supercomputer, it's kind of slightly above average intelligence on one or two things. Not so much Mother Brain controlling Ridley, but Ridley voluntarily letting the Mother Brain run things because it's smart. Because it's a brain.
Now that I think about it, the partnership between Ridley and Mother Brain kinda reminds me of that of Shredder and the Krang from TMNT for some reason.

The same could be said for the clone of Ridley.

I've read around extensively and the manga has many contradictions and plot holes. I hope they fix this up eventually but I'm not sure if they ever will.
Compared to like most of the games the manga hardly had any plotholes. The "contradictions" it may have had were the good kind though, like how Samus was towards Adam as opposed to Other M. Definitely had some of the best writing and character development in the series bar none.

Or you know, Super Metroid was made 12 years before the conclusion of the Prime series, so nobody thought of that. Ridley has been stated to be the only one of his species that's still alive at the time of Super Metroid, and if it was a fake Ridley we'd have seen a situation similar to fake Kraid in Metroid 1 where Mother Brain's lock wouldn't have activated.

It is undisputed canon that the original Ridley is dead, only via retconning can that be undone, hence why I still think SM should have been the end of the Metroid story, it wraps up everything.
Am fine with Super Metroid being the ending of the series' plot like it was originally intended, though it'd mean we'd get no more games. :\

If Other M gets retconned or ignored with the next game(s) that could bode well for the original Ridley in a way. The likelihood of them retconning Other M is questionable though, especially if like Star Fox Command is still considered canon.

And again I'll just agree to disagree with you on Prime 3. Game had its flaws for me too but was still far from lackluster. Will be with you on jumping off the train though if we only get another Hunters kind of game just to get Metroid out of a hiatus again. That would be so disappointing after how long a wait we've had after Other M now. I mean there was at least Prime 3 to look forward to during the time we got MPH but now, we not nothing basically.

I noticed something about Galactic Federation - there is no other specieses shown except for humans and maybe Chozo and Luminoth. At least in the games. That is weird since there is supposed to be a lot of them...
That was what I liked about the Galactic Federation in the manga to be honest. You got to see a lot of its different members/residents that were aliens and not just humans. I blame lazy design on why we only see human Federation characters in the games.

I've been noticing over the past few pages that you were all starting to see the brilliance that is Zero Mission Ridley. Accept him as the superior design, and you will be set free.
Nnnnnever. Super Metroid Ridley master race!

Well, Zero Mission's fine too.
 

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Attention all pirates! This is the Ridley support thread, not the "Admire Mega-Salamence" thread! Further off-topic posts will be punished by getting fed to Birdley in a dark and gruesome manner!
And no, you are not going to get my Midna treatment.

Man the updates this week sucked ***. No charactertrailer announcement whatsoever. I'm turning into Salty Sandy if nothing goods will get announced this month.
I feel that, at the very least, something will happen on the Pyrosphere anniversary.
 

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Attention all pirates! This is the Ridley support thread, not the "Admire Mega-Salamence" thread! Further off-topic posts will be punished by getting fed to Birdley in a dark and gruesome manner!
And no, you are not going to get my Midna treatment.


I feel that, at the very least, something will happen on the Pyrosphere anniversary.
Hopefully it'll be a trailer featuring Ridley announced as a playable character.

What a way to hype a game a few weeks before the Japanese launch date.
 

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Not only Ridley though as I'm still confident he will get confirmed before the release, which means a september release and not August.
 

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If you don't want Nemesis IsmaR or other moderators to close this thread, please, keep Pokemon, CoroCoro, etc. information away from this thread. Unless there is something that 100% confirms Ridley's role as at least something. And don't try to find Ridley in those images or something like that again because that gets annoying. Analysing shadows and parts of that Nintendo Direct is ok, but not that.

I think no one ever asked that question, so...Which roars will they most likely use for Ridley if he is playable? From Brawl? From Other M? Or something new?
 

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Doesn't the lightsource come from the foreground rather than the background? I mean, that's why the shadows are shown away from the camera.

Also, the shadows don't match in your picture. Ridley's shadow is farther away from the platform's shadow than Ridley is from the platform itself. Plus, if Ridley was grabbed, we'd see the shadow of who grabbed him, or heck, we'd see the shadow of the platform the grabber stood on while grabbing Ridley.

Nice hipotesis, I guess.
I didn't try to perfect the picture, that's just the general area the light comes from. But yeah, I guess it does come from the foreground.

I know, but Ridley's shadow would be cast at an angle. But no, you would not see the shadow of the person that grabbed him because their shadow would be on the platform they're standing on. I don't think shadows cross platforms. The camera is positioned in such a way in that shot that the platform shadows aren't on camera.

It's just a theory, I didn't say it was accurate.


This thing right here?

You like that ear grating 32 bit torture?

...

You are beyond my help...

But yeah I hope Ridley regardless of role doesn't sound like that....
I love that scream...

Sometimes I put it on loop to help me fall asleep :troll:


She meant it was a joke that it was relevant
Meta Salamence Confirmed. I'm surprised nobody said this yet...

I think no one ever asked that question, so...Which roars will they most likely use for Ridley if he is playable? From Brawl? From Other M? Or something new?
Hmm, I'd have to go with Fusion Brawl's screams, but slightly remixed to fit in better.
 
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If you don't want Nemesis IsmaR or other moderators to close this thread, please, keep Pokemon, CoroCoro, etc. information away from this thread. Unless there is something that 100% confirms Ridley's role as at least something. And don't try to find Ridley in those images or something like that again because that gets annoying. Analysing shadows and parts of that Nintendo Direct is ok, but not that.

I think no one ever asked that question, so...Which roars will they most likely use for Ridley if he is playable? From Brawl? From Other M? Or something new?
The sm one since I just tough it made the most sense (even considering it's snes).

I heard the fusion one once... GOD FREAKING AWFUL!!! Imagine me with headphones :mad:

Metroid prime one are ok, but I don't seem them to be memorable.

same for brawl.

So it's super metroid.

I hope as taunt btw.
 

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Spirits must be high as we push onward in August! For Ridley! For Freedom!
...Also, don't you think that this PotD is going to lead to one of those "REAL Pic of the Day!" moments? Because just "Ba-Ding~" and talking about the 3D for 1 sentence isn't exactly the PotD's were used to, especially with how close this game is to launch.
...In other news, Mega Salamence, Mega Altaria and Mega Fanba-Imean Lopunny confirmed. :D
 
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The sm one since I just tough it made the most sense (even considering it's snes).

I heard the fusion one once... GOD FREAKING AWFUL!!! Imagine me with headphones :mad:

Metroid prime one are ok, but I don't seem them to be memorable.

same for brawl.

So it's super metroid.

I hope as taunt btw.
No love for Other M roars? :substitute:
Super Metroid one sounds like a parrot or just a bird IMO...
Reason why Metroid Prime roars sound like that because they are generic monster roars. I heard this kind of roars a lot of times, mostly from T.rexes and other large theropods...

I found Ridley sprite i made don't remember when:

Wings look...um...pixelated, but that is because they were too small to use in their original size. Guess who i used as a base for this sprite?
 
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No love for Other M roars? :substitute:
Super Metroid one sounds like a parrot or just a bird IMO...
Reason why Metroid Prime roars sound like that because they are generic monster roars. I heard this kind of roars a lot of times, mostly from T.rexes and other large theropods...

I found Ridley sprite i made don't remember when:

Wings look...um...pixelated, but that is because they were too small to use in their original size. Guess who i used as a base for this sprite?
I...don't remember the one in other m (didn't play + no reasons to).

Since I pay a lot of attention to audio, let me explain why.

First, the overall volume of the sound is quite low. It gives more a feeling to be something that is menacing nearby than literally in front of you. IMO, this choice is more immersive because it adds a little scary feeling that is too quick on being a loud one (being loud, it's more an attention grabber that last for short than being scary for a longer period).

Second, the pattern of the sound is more like a yelling. Imagine that someone would suddenly yell your name out loud. It would on the instant not only grabs your attention, but also makes you scary and very distracted. Maybe stress may happen due to how the person called you and it seemed VERY important, but you get the idea. Here, by hearing a quickly increasing noise that is ending by a yell, it kind of produce the same feel. Not only that, but upon hearing this sounds after some times, it will get in your head pretty quickly due to how aggressive the sound is. This will produce the same effect as someone telling something that you know you need to pay attention too which would be your name.

I REALLY pay a lot of attention to audio in gaming. Due to my big sight issue, my brain got used o it by having an improved hearing. I even passed an IQ test once and it showed that only 4-5% of the people would have a better audio memory.

I wrote 2 paragraph on a 3 seconds sound effect, but I could write a whole essay on a music.
 

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Um.. due to me having responsibilities and such, The pic of the day will come later today (darn responsibilities :( )
 

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I...don't remember the one in other m (didn't play + no reasons to).

Since I pay a lot of attention to audio, let me explain why.

First, the overall volume of the sound is quite low. It gives more a feeling to be something that is menacing nearby than literally in front of you. IMO, this choice is more immersive because it adds a little scary feeling that is too quick on being a loud one (being loud, it's more an attention grabber that last for short than being scary for a longer period).

Second, the pattern of the sound is more like a yelling. Imagine that someone would suddenly yell your name out loud. It would on the instant not only grabs your attention, but also makes you scary and very distracted. Maybe stress may happen due to how the person called you and it seemed VERY important, but you get the idea. Here, by hearing a quickly increasing noise that is ending by a yell, it kind of produce the same feel. Not only that, but upon hearing this sounds after some times, it will get in your head pretty quickly due to how aggressive the sound is. This will produce the same effect as someone telling something that you know you need to pay attention too which would be your name.

I REALLY pay a lot of attention to audio in gaming. Due to my big sight issue, my brain got used o it by having an improved hearing. I even passed an IQ test once and it showed that only 4-5% of the people would have a better audio memory.

I wrote 2 paragraph on a 3 seconds sound effect, but I could write a whole essay on a music.
Then just watch a video with him. When he will be defeated, it will be a lot easier to hear him because music turns off.

...so much text about 1-2 seconds of sound effect...
Still, it will need a longer version since Ridley roaring for only 1 second won't really look...don't know how to call it...It kinda sounds like a giant bird...something like that giant bird from those Toho movies. It doesn't fits well a large dragon. It is 60% better than Fusion roar, which sounds more menacing and fitting to me, but it is too loud and high-pitched.
 

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Then just watch a video with him. When he will be defeated, it will be a lot easier to hear him because music turns off.

...so much text about 1-2 seconds of sound effect...
Still, it will need a longer version since Ridley roaring for only 1 second won't really look...don't know how to call it...It kinda sounds like a giant bird...something like that giant bird from those Toho movies. It doesn't fits well a large dragon. It is 60% better than Fusion roar, which sounds more menacing and fitting to me, but it is too loud and high-pitched.
I really think the fusion one is like someone being very panicked.

Which should be funny, but it's far from it because of the volume and how annoying it is to JUST hear it ONCE.

Also, I ironically, could do on essay on sanctuary guardians. Would be a music inception :idea:
 

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No love for Other M roars? :substitute:
Super Metroid one sounds like a parrot or just a bird IMO...
Reason why Metroid Prime roars sound like that because they are generic monster roars. I heard this kind of roars a lot of times, mostly from T.rexes and other large theropods...

I found Ridley sprite i made don't remember when:

Wings look...um...pixelated, but that is because they were too small to use in their original size. Guess who i used as a base for this sprite?
Damn. Ridley looks really awesome this way.
 

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The PotD's this week were awful. :/ Nothing even involving Riddles. I am hoping for a Nintendo/Smash Direct soon D:.... has anything from the Coro-Coro said anything about Ridley?
 
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