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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

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"Pic of the Day: Here we have our little friend interacting with Midna from The Legend of Zelda, Twilight Princess, added as our newest addition to the assist trophy library. Who is this little guy anyway??"

Note to self, by Twilight Princess as 20 currency isn't that much.

Note to other supporters: HIDE TAKAMARU, WALUIGI, DILLON AND EVERYONE ELSE FROM THIS MANIAC!
 

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What does it say? I'm browsing on my Wii U because my current computer is a crappy Windows Vista that kills itself after 10 minutes.
They're all being super salty about Lucario's inclusion. Thinking Mewtwo and Lucario can't Co-Exist. Thinking a set slot number is in place and ect. Just misguided idiocy really.
 

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What does it say? I'm browsing on my Wii U because my current computer is a crappy Windows Vista that kills itself after 10 minutes.
Just a bunch o' people being mad about Lucario not being Mewtwo.
Welcome to the Salty Splatoon.
 

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You know the image with Midna made me despise Little Birdie even more than I already do, so if there's a trophy reveal with that thing, that means I'm going to kill it with plasma....or I'm going to kill it with Ridley...

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I will draw that later when I return from school I hope.....
I tawt I taw a putty tat! GUESS AGAIN PUNY FAKER!
 

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A lot of lucario hate. A LOT. A lot of swearing and I ain't gonna buy no wii u.
I must say that Lucario is my #1 favorite Pokémon, and while I'd personally prefer Mewtwo over him in Smash, I'd LOVE to see them co-exist in a titan's duel! I've wanted to see that ever since I saw that poster of Mega Lucario and Mega Mewtwo duking it out!
 

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Welp. I promised to upload my version of the Midna slaughter. Here it is. Avert your eyes. It's very very gruesome. Very. Really it is. If there is something you shouldn't be worrying about it's the absolute gore that stains my piece of art. Really. not

I have a soft spot for tricksters ;)
 
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I must say that Lucario is my #1 favorite Pokémon, and while I'd personally prefer Mewtwo over him in Smash, I'd LOVE to see them co-exist in a titan's duel! I've wanted to see that ever since I saw that poster of Mega Lucario and Mega Mewtwo duking it out!
Well, we DO have proof Mewtwo was cut due to time constraints...


Anyhow, I thought this was the Ridley thread! My mistake!
And yes, Pong, Dr. Wright, Tingle, Devil and Lakitu are the next who should be devoured by Babley/Birdley
EDIT: How the hell can I forget the nintendog?
 
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The longer we go without info the more pessimistic I get about Ridley's chances.

not for any logical reasons, I'm just really bad at waiting.

Sa - ku - RAIII


This one is amazing
I am quite the opposite, every day without information is another day that my account is safe. Regardless, if I had any doubts, it would ease them.

One thing that still irks me about these "boss" characters is that we have only seen Yellow Devil and to a lesser extent Kamek and Twinrova, unless I am mistaken. It is slightly confusing as Ridley would be one of the only perfect boss characters available to Sakurai. Not worried enough to doubt his chances, worried enough to mention it, I suppose.
 

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They're all being super salty about Lucario's inclusion. Thinking Mewtwo and Lucario can't Co-Exist. Thinking a set slot number is in place and ect. Just misguided idiocy really.
Are you trying to insinuate that there are not only two slots for Metroid and that Samus and Ridley can co-exist? Wat?
 

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Well, we DO have proof Mewtwo was cut due to time constraints...


Anyhow, I thought this was the Ridley thread! My mistake!
And yes, Pong, Dr. Wright, Tingle, Devil and Lakitu are the next who should be devoured by Babley/Birdley
EDIT: How the hell can I forget the nintendog?
Birdley wouldn't even eat Tingle. Just rip him open and leave it at that. Nobody likes Tingle, even as a source of nutrients.
 

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Y'know what really grinds my gears? This "Ridley is too big" crap is so popular that even GamesRadar uses it to describe why they don't think Ridley is in, but GamesRadar is GamesRadar, they almost never get anything right. Heck they predicted Lucario out of all possible Pokemon reps would be cut from the game.
I agree. GamesRadar is a joke though, they really didn't know anything. Ridley is too big has beena meme since Brawl though, so it's not like it's a new thing. (Not an actual spoiler below)
credit to @TitanTeaTime for the pic.
 
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The longer we go without info the more pessimistic I get about Ridley's chances.

not for any logical reasons, I'm just really bad at waiting.

Sa - ku - RAIII
Logically speaking, the longer we go without information on Ridley, the better his chances get. If Ridley's a boss, he could just be revealed at any time they want; the fact that they still refuse to acknowledge him after blatantly teasing him so long ago just increases his chances further.

Really, your pessimism should be optimism in this case.
 
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I must say that Lucario is my #1 favorite Pokémon, and while I'd personally prefer Mewtwo over him in Smash, I'd LOVE to see them co-exist in a titan's duel! I've wanted to see that ever since I saw that poster of Mega Lucario and Mega Mewtwo duking it out!
Yeah being able to play as both would finally end the "Mewtwo got cut because of Lucario fiasco".

Besides, who doesn't want to be able to have those two fight? It would be cool. :cool:

Back to Ridley.

Does anyone else get the feeling that Ridley (if he's a fighter) will have the last newcomer trailer? One final hype trailer for the long awaited fighter before release to get people (except the detractors who will be crying about it) more hyped to play the game?
 
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The Japanese love Tingle though, but everywhere else, it takes 98 Tingles to get the nutrition of a breadcrumb, even Little Birdie might agree
It's not that Tingle isn't nutritious, it's just that you don't know where that filthy bugger has been and that stupid suit is bound to be sweaty. Birdley likes tasty flesh.

Yeah being able to play as both would finally end the "Mewtwo got cut because of Lucario fiasco".

Besides, who doesn't want to be able to have those two fight? It would be cool. :cool:

Back to Ridley.

Does anyone else get the feeling that Ridley (if he's a fighter) will have the last newcomer trailer? One final hype trailer for the long awaited fighter before release to get people (except the detractors who will be crying about it) more hyped to play the game?
Oh, I really hope not. That'd make the wait waaay too long.

Logically speaking, the longer we go without information on Ridley, the better his chances get. If Ridley's a boss, he could just be revealed at any time they want; the fact that they still refuse to acknowledge him after blatantly teasing him so long ago just increases his chances further.

Really, your pessimism should be optimism in this case.
This, pretty much. Of course, the fear of the PotD of DOOOOOOOM won't be quelled that way.
 

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Yeah being able to play as both would finally end the "Mewtwo got cut because of Lucario fiasco".

Besides, who doesn't want to be able to have those two fight? It would be cool. :cool:

Back to Ridley.

Does anyone else get the feeling that Ridley (if he's a fighter) will have the last newcomer trailer? One final hype trailer for the long awaited fighter before release to get people (except the detractors who will be crying about it) more hyped to play the game?
I can see people playing as Mewtwo and beating up Lucario for the sake of the dumb arguments between the two.

Actually, now that you mention it....having a villains trailer at the end would be a huge hype moment for filling in the villain gap. The only problem I see is wanting to get Ridley announced for the Metroid Anniversary.
 

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Does anyone else get the feeling that Ridley (if he's a fighter) will have the last newcomer trailer? One final hype trailer before release to get people (except the detractors who will be crying about it) more hyped to play the game?
Personally, I don't think he's playable, but for the sake of discussion; let's assume he is. Ridley would most likely be unlockable. yes? Well if we've seen anything from Sakurai, it's that he has shown off a few unlockables via trailer (most notable Mega Man and Pac-Man). However, he also said we were nearing the end of newcomer trailers (not newcomers). Let's assume aside from third parties that unlockable newcomers don't get trailers. Would he get a trailer? No.
 

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Personally, I don't think he's playable, but for the sake of discussion; let's assume he is. Ridley would most likely be unlockable. yes? Well if we've seen anything from Sakurai, it's that he has shown off a few unlockables via trailer (most notable Mega Man and Pac-Man). However, he also said we were nearing the end of newcomer trailers (not newcomers). Let's assume aside from third parties that unlockable newcomers don't get trailers. Would he get a trailer? No.
It would be strange if Ridley was unlockable if Pyrosphere was a starter level.
 

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Yeah being able to play as both would finally end the "Mewtwo got cut because of Lucario fiasco".

Besides, who doesn't want to be able to have those two fight? It would be cool. :cool:

Back to Ridley.

Does anyone else get the feeling that Ridley (if he's a fighter) will have the last newcomer trailer? One final hype trailer for the long awaited fighter before release to get people (except the detractors who will be crying about it) more hyped to play the game?
Perhaps; however, I suspect that an internationally popular character like Mewtwo would be saved for the final hype trailer. Nothing indicates that the two cannot share a trailer. Regardless, I just want Ridley to have a trailer, he might not have one if he is a hidden-character.
 
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Personally, I don't think he's playable, but for the sake of discussion; let's assume he is. Ridley would most likely be unlockable. yes? Well if we've seen anything from Sakurai, it's that he has shown off a few unlockables via trailer (most notable Mega Man and Pac-Man). However, he also said we were nearing the end of newcomer trailers (not newcomers). Let's assume aside from third parties that unlockable newcomers don't get trailers. Would he get a trailer? No.
He's one of the most requested characters ever. So I think it would be a mistake to not give him a trailer hyping his inclusion. But I see what you mean. He could be a secret character/unlockable character.
 

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Personally, I don't think he's playable, but for the sake of discussion; let's assume he is. Ridley would most likely be unlockable. yes? Well if we've seen anything from Sakurai, it's that he has shown off a few unlockables via trailer (most notable Mega Man and Pac-Man). However, he also said we were nearing the end of newcomer trailers (not newcomers). Let's assume aside from third parties that unlockable newcomers don't get trailers. Would he get a trailer? No.
On the other hand, there's a first time for everything. IF Ridley was teased like this because he is playable, then I wouldn't be surprised if Sakurai used him as an Hype-Bomb. After all, Ridley is pretty much the most controversial character there is, and one of the most requested too.
 

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If Ridley is playable, he'll have a trailer. Simple. He'd just bring too much hype to not announce him before release. At this point I do think he'd have the "final" trailer before launch.
 

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How so? Dr. Mario is fought on Princess Peach's Castle in Melee. Snake is fought on Shadow Moses Island. Why would that be any different.
The 3DS version is coming out first, but we don't know how long that was planned for. He is hinted at being a boss if he is not playable, if we were to play the game upon release and Ridley WAS NOT a boss on that level then we would all assume him to be unlockable, thus killing any hype.
 

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If Ridley is playable, he'll have a trailer. Simple. He'd just bring too much hype to not announce him before release. At this point I do think he'd have the "final" trailer before launch.
But consider this, Sakurai is trolling the fanbase. No doubt about it. Knowing him; he'd probably do the opposite and keep trolling till release.
 

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But consider this, Sakurai is trolling the fanbase. No doubt about it. Knowing him; he'd probably do the opposite and keep trolling till release.
Possibly. But keep this in mind, Ridley has both a big amount of fans, a big amount of haters and a big amount of people who simply think it's impossible for him to be included. Would releasing a trailer centered around him be a troll move in its own right?
 

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But consider this, Sakurai is trolling the fanbase. No doubt about it. Knowing him; he'd probably do the opposite and keep trolling till release.
To what avail, might I ask? Upon release, Ridley is announced by merit of being in the game. So what purpose would he have to "troll" the fan-base (assuming "trolling" is withholding information on a game yet to be released)? Sakurai is not incompetent.
 

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Possibly. But keep this in mind, Ridley has both a big amount of fans, a big amount of haters and a big amount of people who simply think it's impossible for him to be included. Would releasing a trailer centered around him be a troll move in its own right?
In theory, yes. Rather, I would see it more as a "take that, *****" trailer rather than a trolly one.

The 3DS version is coming out first, but we don't know how long that was planned for. He is hinted at being a boss if he is not playable, if we were to play the game upon release and Ridley WAS NOT a boss on that level then we would all assume him to be unlockable, thus killing any hype.
I fail to see any impact on this. Pyrosphere may not be in the 3DS game.
 
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Perhaps; however, I suspect that an internationally popular character like Mewtwo would be saved for the final hype trailer. Nothing indicates that the two cannot share a trailer. Regardless, I just want Ridley to have a trailer, he might not have one if he is a hidden-character.
If Ridley and Mewtwo were revealed in the same trailer the internet would do this:



Followed by this:
 

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Y'know what really grinds my gears? This "Ridley is too big" crap is so popular that even GamesRadar uses it to describe why they don't think Ridley is in, but GamesRadar is GamesRadar, they almost never get anything right. Heck they predicted Lucario out of all possible Pokemon reps would be cut from the game.
GamesRadar is a complete joke. They "predicted" that Marth would be cut.
The other characters they "predicted" don't even matter. They've lost all credibility with just that.
Marth. Freakin' Marth.
But the worst part is that people will actually listen to their "predictions" which are based off of nothing substantial. Meaning they'll also listen to whatever crap they spew about Ridley...those sad people.
Actually, no, the worst part is that everyone didn't completely lose respect for them once more than half of their "predicted" cuts were announced before release. It's really sad... Not matter how wrong they are people will keep listening... But I'm sure if just one of they're "predicted" cuts ends up true everyone will latch onto it.
Not like their opinion on Ridley's inclusion really matters as I'm fairly confident that they'll all be wrong in the end anyway.

Seriously...freakin' Marth.
 
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In theory, yes. Rather, I would see it more as a "take that, *****" trailer rather than a trolly one.



I fail to see any impact on this. Pyrosphere may not be in the 3DS game.
I'm not sure that the 3DS game was always planned to be released prior to the Wii U version. I just think it's an odd choice.
 

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Is there anyone else besides Ridley who they could announce as a playable newcomer at this point?

Well, there is the possibility that we could get a Rhythm Heaven character. The franchise has already been hinted at with the Sneaky Spirit enemy. So there's some competition right there.
 

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welp, if gamesradar predicted Ridley isn't in, he's pretty much 100% confirmed.
 

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GamesRadar is a complete joke. They "predicted" that Marth would be cut.
The other characters they "predicted" don't even matter. They've lost all credibility with just that.
Marth. Freakin' Marth.
But the worst part is that people will actually listen to their "predictions" which are based off of nothing substantial. Meaning they'll also listen to whatever crap they spew about Ridley...those sad people.
Actually, no, the worst part is that everyone didn't completely lose respect for them once more than half of their "predicted" cuts were announced before release. It's really sad... Not matter how wrong they are people will keep listening... But I'm sure if just one of they're "predicted" cuts ends up true everyone will latch onto it.
Not like their opinion on Ridley's inclusion really matters as I'm fairly confident that they'll all be wrong in the end anyway.

Seriously...freakin' Marth.
Gotta love Gamesradar

How do you screw up marth? Did no one remember the white board drawing?
 

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welp, if gamesradar predicted Ridley isn't in, he's pretty much 100% confirmed.
...Who else did they predict wasn't going to be in?

I might need to make modifications on my predicted roster.
 
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