Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Poopmin]

I just hope Ridley's trailer doesn't dissapoint like Pretty Pale Tuna's did. By outright showing her at the start. Who made that decision?

Dude I know right? The only suspense I felt was during the telltale opening. I was in a skype call at the time and we were all so hyped for it, and then she just shows up and we just went silent despite a quiet "aw man." We weren't quiet because we were speechless, we were quiets because she was not only predictable but shown out right with no buildup.

 

[Taco Cruise]

I had a dream where, leaving off from the last trailer with robin and lucina fighting captain falcoln, captain falcoln ends up falcoln punching robin out of the stadium. At that point, emerging from the shadows is none other than black shadow, who engages CF and knocks him unconscious, he revels in being the most evil villain with some cheesy voiceover, and suddenly ridley swoops down and roasts him and wraps his tail around him and throws him into the clouds. As black shadow goes flying, ridley is looking up and sees samus's gunship in the distance. Ridley then shoots towards samus and then gameplay is shown for ridley fighting samus on samus' s gunship which is flying past old metroid areas. Idk bout you guys but this sounds awesome.

 

[Garteam]

Confession time; When I first saw the Ridley shadow I though he was a boss until a friend brought up we didn't actually see him...

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Why did Oasis abandon Ridley?

He believes him to be disconfirmed after the Smash Direct.

 

[WayfaringElf]

He believes him to be disconfirmed after the Smash Direct.

He's in for a sweeter prize than the rest of us.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

He's in for a sweeter prize than the rest of us.

A punishment fit for a traitor.

 

[WayfaringElf]

Meanwhile in the "Other" game...
Adam: Good music is not Authorized

 

[Con0rrrr]

Why did Oasis abandon Ridley?

He's a cotton headed Ridley muggins

 

[Nat Perry]

Fun fact time! For this game (Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U, of course), Sakurai has never shown us part of or all of a newcomer's fighter model prior to their official reveal. We saw part of Ridley's tail, and a bunch of his shadow. So we've seen part of him. As for Palutena and Miis, we've seen them as statues and stage characters respectively, but those parts of certain stages, and are not fighter models.

So, as I was saying, there's some consistency to be had here. And with that pattern in mind, it's easy to deduce that Ridley is not a playable character. Unless he is in fact playable, of course, in which case he will be the character to break the pattern. So I'll state my statement again because it rocks and it's a consistent pattern to base claims off of.

For this game, Sakurai has never shown us part of or all of a newcomer's fighter model before their official reveal.

 

[RidleyDX]

I leave to watch Godzilla and the whole thread descend to madness, comes back to reality, talks about General Ridley support stuff, we get a new space pirate comrade and @aldelaro5 writes another essay. Another day in the Ridley thread.

And I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[Con0rrrr]

it's easy to deduce that Ridley is not a playable character.

Unless he is in fact playable

 

[Nat Perry]

Always okay to leave the possibility open. It is a logical statement after all.

In this particular case, it's like "Innocent until proven guilty." I think Ridley's probably not playable, unless he is proven playable.

 

[NatP]

it's a consistent pattern

I don't think Sakurai knows the meaning of these words.

 

[Con0rrrr]

Always okay to leave the possibility open. It is a logical statement after all.

In all seriousness, the argument doesn't make sense. If anything, it helps him.

Showing his shadow still isn't showing his model. Just like all the other dudes you used as example.

If anything, your argument is helping Ridley

 

[BlueBubbee]

I leave to watch Godzilla...

Godzilla 2014?

 

[WayfaringElf]

Fun fact time! For this game (Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U, of course), Sakurai has never shown us part of or all of a newcomer's fighter model prior to their official reveal. We saw part of Ridley's tail, and a bunch of his shadow. So we've seen part of him. As for Palutena and Miis, we've seen them as statues and stage characters respectively, but those parts of certain stages, and are not fighter models.

So, as I was saying, there's some consistency to be had here. And with that pattern in mind, it's easy to deduce that Ridley is not a playable character. Unless he is in fact playable, of course, in which case he will be the character to break the pattern. So I'll state my statement again because it rocks and it's a consistent pattern to base claims off of.

For this game, Sakurai has never shown us part of or all of a newcomer's fighter model before their official reveal.

2nd post young whipper snapper, 2nd post.

 

[Nat Perry]

In all seriousness, the argument doesn't make sense. If anything, it helps him.

Showing his shadow still isn't showing his model. Just like all the other dudes you used as example.

If anything, your argument is helping Ridley

We saw his tail and shadow. We saw part of him, that is fact.

 

[WayfaringElf]

We saw his tail and shadow. We saw part of him, that is fact.

And that disconfirms him?

 

[Poopmin]

Fun fact time! For this game (Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U, of course), Sakurai has never shown us part of or all of a newcomer's fighter model prior to their official reveal. We saw part of Ridley's tail, and a bunch of his shadow. So we've seen part of him. As for Palutena and Miis, we've seen them as statues and stage characters respectively, but those parts of certain stages, and are not fighter models.

So, as I was saying, there's some consistency to be had here. And with that pattern in mind, it's easy to deduce that Ridley is not a playable character. Unless he is in fact playable, of course, in which case he will be the character to break the pattern. So I'll state my statement again because it rocks and it's a consistent pattern to base claims off of.

For this game, Sakurai has never shown us part of or all of a newcomer's fighter model before their official reveal.

He showed off Rosalina before reveal, some time during November or December the pic of the day was reconfirmation of Nintendogs as an assist, it had a certain attack, later identified as Rosalina's standard Special, that no one had seen before, sakurai has shown us part of a playable character before

 

[Nat Perry]

And that disconfirms him?

It could. I think it's pretty likely.

 

[Bobomberman]

Fun fact time! For this game (Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U, of course), Sakurai has never shown us part of or all of a newcomer's fighter model prior to their official reveal. We saw part of Ridley's tail, and a bunch of his shadow. So we've seen part of him. As for Palutena and Miis, we've seen them as statues and stage characters respectively, but those parts of certain stages, and are not fighter models.

So, as I was saying, there's some consistency to be had here. And with that pattern in mind, it's easy to deduce that Ridley is not a playable character. Unless he is in fact playable, of course, in which case he will be the character to break the pattern. So I'll state my statement again because it rocks and it's a consistent pattern to base claims off of.

For this game, Sakurai has never shown us part of or all of a newcomer's fighter model before their official reveal.

You've brouvht this point up several times. Yes, the first time you said it, it was a good point, but people addressed it and moved on. Now its just aggravating to take steps back in this discussion as you bring up the same point for the umpteenth time.

 

[NatP]

We saw his tail and shadow. We saw part of him, that is fact.

Technically we saw Ganondorf's gauntlet in the melee opening before he was revealed. Shouldn't he count?

 

[AustarusIV]

I don't think Sakurai knows the meaning of these words.

We got ourselves our sentence of the year, folks!

There is no written law that Sakurai absolutely has to reveal part of a newcomer before his/her confirmation. Say what you will of Palutena, but her statue in the Kid Icarus Wii U stage shows us more about what she looks like in-game than Ridley's shadow.

 

[Con0rrrr]

We saw his tail and shadow. We saw part of him, that is fact.

That part was not the focus of the shot though.

The average viewer didn't see the tail, that was only seen going frame by frame.

By that logic, we saw part of Palutena on her stage's PotD. Because obviously that statue is based off Palutena's model.

And I guess Little Mac's stage is part of him as well the, because it is from his game after all.

 

[RidleyDX]

Godzilla 2014?

Yes, Reptiles are hype.

 

[Nat Perry]

Technically we saw Ganondorf's gauntlet in the melee opening before he was revealed. Doesn't he count?

I'm talking about this game. Not Melee.

That part was not the focus of the shot though.

The average viewer didn't see the tail, that was only seen going frame by frame.

By that logic, we saw part of Palutena on her stage's PotD. Because obviously that statue is based off Palutena's model.

And I guess Little Mac's stage is part of him as well the, because it is from his game after all.

It may have not been the focus of the shot, people still saw him, believe it or not.

If I took a photo of a person's face up close, is the cloud in the sky the focus? No. Can people still see it? Yes.

 

[DarkFalcon]

Either way I wouldn't be surprised if Ridley's playable or not playable. Sure I'll be a bit disappointed if he's not, but I'll live. I was never really a huge Ridley supporter until recently. I was more on the neutral side. Now I'm more pro Ridley. He's still not my most requested character (Hey there Mewtwo), but he's become my 2nd most wanted easily.

 

[Con0rrrr]

It may have not been the focus of the shot, people still saw him, believe it or not.

If I took a photo of a person's face up close, is the cloud in the sky the focus? No. Can people still see it? Yes.

If you really think seeing a part of his tail before his role is told deconfirms him.

If you really think this argument is the end all be all for Ridley.

I've lost all faith in you

 

[Nat Perry]

Is the flag the focus of this screenshot? No. Can I still see it? Yes.

@ Con0rrrr - Regarding faith, I'm not sure why you had faith in me to begin with...

 

[AustarusIV]

@ N Nat Perry , how will you react if Ridley is confirmed to be playable?

 

[BlueBubbee]

Yes, Reptiles are hype.

Awesome movie. Loved it.



Back to Ridley.

 

[Con0rrrr]

Is the flag the focus of this screenshot? No. Can I still see it? Yes.

@ Con0rrrr - Regarding faith, I'm not sure why you had faith in me to begin with...

The flag isn't a ****ing character.

Ridley is

 

[Nat Perry]

The flag isn't a ****ing character.

Ridley is

I was making a point that you can still see things that aren't the focus in a picture. You seemed to be saying that Ridley's tail and shadow not being the focus made its appearance invalid.

@ N Nat Perry , how will you react if Ridley is confirmed to be playable?

I'd be surprised, and stoked if he looks good visual- and moveset-wise.

 

[BlueBubbee]

For this game, Sakurai has never shown us part of or all of a newcomer's fighter model before their official reveal.

Spoiler: Slightly Unrelated Content

Actually, we saw part Rosalina prior to her official reveal.

 

[NatP]

I'm talking about this game. Not Melee.

Yeah I totally get that but the fact that characters HAVE been shown before they were revealed to the playable tells us that the exact same thing can easily happen to Ridley.

Hell, back in Smash 64 you could see the entire silhouette for ALL the unlockable/unrevealed characters in the opening!

 

[AustarusIV]

I'd be surprised, and stoked if he looks good visual- and moveset-wise.

Good. I think Sakurai likes surprises.

Except for that one time with Palutena, although that was helped by the Gematsu and in-game leaks of her.

 

[WayfaringElf]

Oh Nat Perry, @majora_787 would like a word with you.

 

[BravadoMan_13]

With all the hate Ridley is getting from detractors around the web, his potential confirmation to playable character will feel alot more satisfying.

 

[SchAlternate]

We saw Ridley partially, but we still don't know what his role in the game.

The fact that we saw his tail (which some people still think it may be part of his wing) doesn't really mean anything. I mean, yeah, we saw him, somewhat, and thus we know he's in the game... So? We still don't know his role.

 

[WayfaringElf]

I want an HD port for Prime just like how they did Wind Waker.