Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Oasis_S]

@ Oasis_S is the Strongest and owns the thread, although he is a fallen Ridley supporter.

OH BUT I DONT GET RECOGNIZED AS A PRE-BRAWL VETERAN???

WHAT A JERK. WEAK JERK.

 

[Reila]

Well if you're gonna include all or at least most of the active remaining pre-Brawl supporters here, majora and I deserve mention as well.

I mentioned the ones I see the most since I registered here, which was just a couple months ago. Sorry

 

[BeakyBird]

Hahaha, nobody knows who I am either. Figured I'd at least get points for being a female Ridley fan, but that's apparently not as rare as I initially thought! Maybe I'll do some art for this thread... prove my loyalty and all that. XD

 

[IsmaR]

OH BUT I DONT GET RECOGNIZED AS A PRE-BRAWL VETERAN???

WHAT A JERK. WEAK JERK.

The Stronger they are, the harder they fall.

That said, a list of every non-neo/pre-Sm4sh supporter would be, for lack of a better term, too big. Just because the lot of you new meat post more often doesn't mean they're not/haven't been as important to the thread/movement/fanbase. Not that seniority makes anyone more important, either.

 

[ORVO5]

Oops mispost lol.

 

[Oasis_S]

I just had to make sure everyone knew I was cool too.

 

[IsmaR]

Well no duh, you're the OP

Also today's Pic confirms Robin has "air" Smashes. Or at least implies since his/her Levin Sword is activated by Smashes/can be summoned in the air.

Not sure how that bodes for the people who suggested he (Ridley) could have that/a flight mode as a gimmick.

 

[AustarusIV]

Well no duh, you're the OP

Also today's Pic confirms Robin has "air" Smashes. Or at least implies since his/her Levin Sword is activated by Smashes/can be summoned in the air.

Not sure how that bodes for the people who suggested he (Ridley) could have that/a flight mode as a gimmick.

I think it would still be positive. Robin doesn't exactly seem like the kind of character to have an excellent air game compared to the other newcomers so far, and it's not like she can float in the air for a relatively long period of time like Ridley can (presumably speaking).

 

[JaidynReiman]

I think it would still be positive. Robin doesn't exactly seem like the kind of character to have an excellent air game compared to the other newcomers so far, and it's not like she can float in the air for a relatively long period of time like Ridley can (presumably speaking).

Robin seems to have a better air game due to they're floaty nature in comparison to the other FE characters. Robin doesn't have great mobility, but still is more floaty while Ike and Marth are very much grounded.

Yes, Ridley being primarily an aerial based fighter and likely a Grappler would be his gimmick of the newcomers.

 

[NintenRob]

My own take on the trophy theory
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/69655088

 

[Thermithral]

So, I was wrong, there might be a few more minor updates before it is finished. This one in particular seemed worth bringing up.

-Reinforced Neck, Spine, Pelvis, Knees and Ankles. Needed extra wire to support the future head. Others would make his head smaller but I say, screw scaling it down. If I'm making Ridley, he will be in his proper, glorious scale!
-Added back toe. He can grab! :D

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Hey it is not my fault! it was @The Soulless One's FAULT!

False, I am the one who started this madness because of a certain comic made by a certain lady

Also, my role is the Rider I guess

 

[CrypticSpark]

Sorry if anyone posted about this without me noticing

But I'm I the only one that would find getting all the remaining characters (or at least the ones that were planned to be shown before the release) revealed in CoroCoro anti-climatic?

I'm pretty sure the last August Direct in 2013 was on the 7th, so there's still hope the big hitters remaining get shown in a Direct or at least get a cinematic, and we know we still have a few trailers left. Though until I see the CoroCoro reveal get 100% confirmed I'm just going to ignore it for now, since I'm questioning it's legitimacy at the moment. But if all the newcomers were revealed before then (which again could just be the ones intended to be revealed before launch), it doesn't seem as far-fetched as the roaster leaks we've had.

 

[Zem-raj]

Okay, here's something else I've thought about, it relates to the shadow thing in the Direct (yeah, yeah I know... I know...). We've all wondered why Ridley just floats there, doesn't attack, and just moves slowly forward. However, another question should be: Why didn't Pikachu, or any other character there (hidden off camera), fight back? To be able to solidify that Ridley is indeed a stage hazard like Yellow Devil, characters would have fought Ridley back, and evidence would have been there for us to see. There's just one thing: if they did, Ridley's role would have been made obvious, not just because of a size of a shadow. Why's that you ask? Well, from what I recall, playable characters have animations where they get hurt/knocked back. In Brawl, Ridley as a boss didn't have those animations, he just continued as he was, no flinching, no knock back, it was if the damage wasn't enough. So if Ridley's playable, and if Pikachu (or perhaps a hidden character out of the focus) had hit Ridley, it would have been noticeable. Sure a boss hazard could probably have knock back/damage animations, but judging from that Direct, Yellow Devil didn't seem to flinch when it got whacked, it only shakes when hit (no damage animation, just had the same as its idle animation), basically like Boss Ridley in Brawl. Probably not much, but thought I'd share my thoughts on the matter.

 

[FlappyFalco]

Welp, the Gematsu leak is dead.

While I wanted Chrom and the Chorus Boys, think Lucina is the definition of shoehorned and that Robin is a generic avatar with no set personality, Ridley has hope now.

And that makes up for it.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Welp, the Gematsu leak is dead.

While I wanted Chrom and the Chorus Boys, think Lucina is the definition of shoehorned and that Robin is a generic avatar with no set personality, Ridley has hope now.

And that makes up for it.

He always had it. Before and after that Direct. That leak was just annoying because of peoples that thought it is 100% real and there is no other newcomers other than those listed in that leak.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

In reality we pretty much know that Ridley is in the game along with Chorus boys, Ghirahim and possibly Shulk and Snake/Raiden

 

[Malle]

After witnessing the last trailer I somehow question the fact that Sakurai said some stuff like
"Wont have clones" - Still Toon Link is like the heaviest clone out there, or was as I'd say that Lucina is problaby way worse of a clone. Dont get me wrong here, Lucina is a cool character, she could been a bit more different though.
"Roster was finished months ago" - This one I keep questioning myself. WAS IT REALLY THOUGH? I feel like it may be an excuse to troll around more, the game has been in development for a long time now and I have a reason believe that Sakurai wanna check the popularity of some characters. Which is the only reason he knows of all the stuff he does to surprise/troll us.

Maybe its just me.
But no matter what I am fairly sure now that Ridley will be playable. Something nice to know is that I haven't stumbled across a single hater/detractor lately (Jinxed it!)

 

[CrypticSpark]

Talking about clones, even if Ridley's moves were inspired/altered moves by character's like Bowser, having Lucina proves that moves and characters can't just be dismissed now due to it being too similar or the same (but I don't see a Ganondorf with Captain Falcon's moveset in this game). Which also gives me more hope that Falco won't be axed and just have his move set become Fox's alt specials

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Hahaha, nobody knows who I am either. Figured I'd at least get points for being a female Ridley fan, but that's apparently not as rare as I initially thought! Maybe I'll do some art for this thread... prove my loyalty and all that. XD

So on other words, you are a AndreaAC clone...Still better than Falcondorf

 

[BaganSmashBros]

So on other words, you are a AndreaAC clone...Still better than Falcondorf

Falcondorf was fine, but Falcondork isn't. Ganondorf would be a lot better than both of them.

 

[Reila]

In reality we pretty much know that Ridley is in the game along with Chorus boys, Ghirahim and possibly Shulk and Snake/Raiden

No, we don't. Ridley, a Zelda newcomer and Shulk are very likely to be in, but Snake's fate is still uncertain, as is Chorus Kid's.

Btw, I am curious, what makes you think Raiden would be in Smash? Nanomachines, son?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

No, we don't. Ridley, a Zelda newcomer and Shulk are very likely to be in, but Snake's fate is still uncertain, as is Chorus Kid's.

Btw, I am curious, what makes you think Raiden would be in Smash? Nanomachines, son?

Raiden's VA saying he did some voice work for smash bros, and later claiming to have mistaken it with playstation all stars. I call bull on that argument because not only was it a different VA, but he talked about voice acting, you can't save yourself if you state 2 different things. Kojima stated that he doesn't know if Snake will return and wants Sakurai to put him back, but Kojima is a bigger troll than Sakurai, so I think Snake won't be cut and will get a friend around. A Rhythm Heaven rep is far too likely, the 4 trophy theory has nothing that can disprove it as of now, and Shulk's VA said he has done voice acting on something and won't tell what it is until he knows no-one will rip his nads off

 

[KiraYoshikage]

Raiden's VA saying he did some voice work for smash bros, and later claiming to have mistaken it with playstation all stars. I call bull on that argument because not only was it a different VA, but he talked about voice acting, you can't save yourself if you state 2 different things. Kojima stated that he doesn't know if Snake will return and wants Sakurai to put him back, but Kojima is a bigger troll than Sakurai, so I think Snake won't be cut and will get a friend around. A Rhythm Heaven rep is far too likely, the 4 trophy theory has nothing that can disprove it as of now, and Shulk's VA said he has done voice acting on something and won't tell what it is until he knows no-one will rip his nads off

This man speaks truth. Even though Gematsu is dead there are still remnants of evidence that gives us clues of characters like the chorus fellows and shulky. I for one think that even snake is still fair game. Sakurai and Kojima are brothers in trolling after all.

 

[Reila]

Raiden's VA saying he did some voice work for smash bros, and later claiming to have mistaken it with playstation all stars. I call bull on that argument because not only was it a different VA, but he talked about voice acting, you can't save yourself if you state 2 different things. Kojima stated that he doesn't know if Snake will return and wants Sakurai to put him back, but Kojima is a bigger troll than Sakurai, so I think Snake won't be cut and will get a friend around. A Rhythm Heaven rep is far too likely, the 4 trophy theory has nothing that can disprove it as of now, and Shulk's VA said he has done voice acting on something and won't tell what it is until he knows no-one will rip his nads off

People only claim a Rhythm Heaven rep to be a given because of Gematsu's "leak". The presence of the ghost thingies in Smash Run isn't enough evidence to support the Chorus Kid being playable. Don't get me wrong, I do think there will be a RH rep in Smash, but I disagree with your "we pretty much know Chorus Kid is playable" statement. Also, at this point, the Rhythm Heaven rep could be anyone. Gematsu said Chrom was the Fire Emblem Awakening rep and we got Robin and Lucina instead. Who is to say the Rhythm girl, the Reporter, the Wrestler or any other character from RH isn't the rep instead of Chorus Kid? Didn't Sal Romano's source e-mail him again saying that the only newcomer he is absolutely sure to be in Smash is Shulk? It is this attitude of assuming stuff without evidences to support that made people so surprised when Chrom was disconfirmed.

As of Raiden, I don't think he will be in Smash. I kinda like the character, but it would make even less sense than Snake being in Brawl. Plus, two Metal Gear Solid reps? No thanks. I am not even sure if Snake should come back, he has almost no ties to Nintendo. He would fit much better in Sony's PlayStation All-Star Battle Royale.

 

[SmilingMad]

Talking about clones, even if Ridley's moves were inspired/altered moves by character's like Bowser, having Lucina proves that moves and characters can't just be dismissed now due to it being too similar or the same (but I don't see a Ganondorf with Captain Falcon's moveset in this game). Which also gives me more hope that Falco won't be axed and just have his move set become Fox's alt specials

Even then, you can't call Ridley a clone of anything at all, seeing as clones have similar body structures to their...clonees? OCs?
Ridley's body structure can not be compared to any of the past or current challengers (say Charizard and I will bop you on the nose to convey disapproval), and Roidley's is probably closer to bloody Donkey Kong than anything else with his hunched posture and long arms.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

A Rhythm Heaven rep is far too likely

Why? Because enemies from RH appeared in Smash Run? There is a lot of things that appears in SSB from a franchise that has no playable characters representing it (Saki, Electroplancton stage, flipper, bumper, super scope, etc).

so I think Snake won't be cut and will get a friend around

That is BS. Why would Metal Gear be the only 3rd party franchise that has 2 playable characters representing it? And if something like that will happen, i doubt it will be Metal Gear because there is Sonic, who has a long story with Nintendo (but i will still hate such decision - 3rd party franchises are extra and must not be represented too much).

 

[The King of Skulls]

Quick question: Aside from Sakurai taking a personal interest in Xenoblade and tweeting stuff about it, what does Shulk exactly have going for him? Any in-game hints? Or are people still really backing on the fact the dread serpent Gematsu stated he was there? Or maybe Shulk's Voice Actor saying he did work on some 'very epic games' or some nonsense like that?

As for the 'We All Know Character...' thing, I don't believe that for a millisecond. As much as I like Ghirahim, he has a ton of competition and I think someone more prominent might beat him out. As for the Chorus Men, I don't think they're in, at all. Someone from RH might be a rep, but I'm doubtful. Although I want Snake to return, he's probably not given Nintendo's anti-realistic gun perspective.

Of course, what do I know? I'm just some guy on the internet.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Quick question: Aside from Sakurai taking a personal interest in Xenoblade and tweeting stuff about it, what does Shulk exactly have going for him? Any in-game hints? Or are people still really backing on the fact the dread serpent Gematsu stated he was there? Or maybe Shulk's Voice Actor saying he did work on some 'very epic games' or some nonsense like that?

As for the 'We All Know Character...' thing, I don't believe that for a millisecond. As much as I like Ghirahim, he has a ton of competition and I think someone more prominent might beat him out. As for the Chorus Men, I don't think they're in, at all. Someone from RH might be a rep, but I'm doubtful. Although I want Snake to return, he's probably not given Nintendo's anti-realistic gun perspective.

Of course, what do I know? I'm just some guy on the internet.

Actually, Rayman's inclusion as a trophy has reignited my hopes for Snake and 3rd parties in general.
I know he has a ton of competition, but still...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

People only claim a Rhythm Heaven rep to be a given because of Gematsu's "leak". The presence of the ghost thingies in Smash Run isn't enough evidence to support the Chorus Kid being playable. Don't get me wrong, I do think there will be a RH rep in Smash, but I disagree with your "we pretty much know Chorus Kid is playable" statement. Also, at this point, the Rhythm Heaven rep could be anyone. Gematsu said Chrom was the Fire Emblem Awakening rep and we got Robin and Lucina instead. Who is to say the Rhythm girl, the Reporter, the Wrestler or any other character from RH isn't the rep instead of Chorus Kid? Didn't Sal Romano's source e-mail him again saying that the only newcomer he is absolutely sure to be in Smash is Shulk? It is this attitude of assuming stuff without evidences to support that made people so surprised when Chrom was disconfirmed.

As of Raiden, I don't think he will be in Smash. I kinda like the character, but it would make even less sense than Snake being in Brawl. Plus, two Metal Gear Solid reps? No thanks. I am not even sure if Snake should come back, he has almost no ties to Nintendo. He would fit much better in Sony's PlayStation All-Star Battle Royale.

I said possibly on Chorus boys

Why? Because enemies from RH appeared in Smash Run? There is a lot of things that appears in SSB from a franchise that has no playable characters representing it (Saki, Electroplancton stage, flipper, bumper, super scope, etc).

That is BS. Why would Metal Gear be the only 3rd party franchise that has 2 playable characters representing it? And if something like that will happen, i doubt it will be Metal Gear because there is Sonic, who has a long story with Nintendo (but i will still hate such decision - 3rd party franchises are extra and must not be represented too much).

I agree it seems BS but it seems a tad bit likely seeing how the Kojirai are master trolls and good friends. And RH is VERY popular in Japan

Those are my 2 cents on this thing, I will say it seems unlikely, but the possibilty DOES exist. I should also say this, I have never played a MGS game, shown any interest other than Rising Reveangance, and barely used Snake in Brawl

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Found something kinda funny about Space Pirates:

Spoiler

Anyway, i hope that we won`t get any other 3rd party characters except for those 3 (Sonic, Pac Man and Mega Man) - they are very famous classic characters...but im still against 3rd party characters...

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Why? Because enemies from RH appeared in Smash Run? There is a lot of things that appears in SSB from a franchise that has no playable characters representing it (Saki, Electroplancton stage, flipper, bumper, super scope, etc).

That is BS. Why would Metal Gear be the only 3rd party franchise that has 2 playable characters representing it? And if something like that will happen, i doubt it will be Metal Gear because there is Sonic, who has a long story with Nintendo (but i will still hate such decision - 3rd party franchises are extra and must not be represented too much).

Technically, would ROB be a Super Scope representative?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Agreed on 1 3rd party character per company, although I proved it has a very slight chance becoming reality

This design or riot, it's Other M without the beak, they used this in Dead or alive Dimensions

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Agreed on 1 3rd party character per company, although I proved it has a very slight chance becoming reality

This design or riot, it's Other M without the beak, they used this in Dead or alive Dimensions

Its just a simpler/less complex/less detailed version of his Other M model because 3DS wouldn`t be able to handle that model (neither SSBB can). It has same beak by the way.

Technically, would ROB be a Super Scope representative?

Nah, it is Gyromite or something like that...right? And wasn`t Super Scope a major failure before Donkey Kong arcade was made?

 

[Phaazoid]

OH BUT I DONT GET RECOGNIZED AS A PRE-BRAWL VETERAN???

WHAT A JERK. WEAK JERK.

You're only counted as a vet if you didn't die

I... think I saw the submission, but it's been quite awhile now to remember for sure. Link?

Like Anomilus said, this thread will reach page 2000 in 1/10th the time it took to get to 1000 at the rate it's going.


At most we might get a new veteran reveal from CoroCoro but I wouldn't count on much more.

Ridley is his name and speed is his game

also size

link btw

O-oh..! 0.0
Well... I sure do think the dude is totally rad, we could be buddies! :3 I'd like to get to know the regulars in this thread better, that's for sure!

After me you won't need to


also @The Soulless One
while compounding a list of members/roles is awesome and the enthusiasm is of epic sizes, do remember you're never going to be able to include everyone, which may lead to some accidental hurting of feels.
like this guy

Hahaha, nobody knows who I am either. Figured I'd at least get points for being a female Ridley fan, but that's apparently not as rare as I initially thought! Maybe I'll do some art for this thread... prove my loyalty and all that. XD

11 posts. 10 before that one. I've never seen him before. He could be a detractor in disguise. But he could be a supporter and nobody knew he existed. I still don't know for sure. In fact, I'm only just actually reading the post and realizing I said him instead of her. Was that even there the first time I read the post? This thread moves too fast to know for sure.

tl;dr, you might want to put an 'I'm only a pirate' addendum or something
(also to hit some question marks in your post, anomilus is a brawl vet and ismar is female)

 

[CrypticSpark]

What I don't get is, out of all the possible Metal gear characters, especially Snake, why Raiden? Being in Playstation All-Stars ( what I would consider a rival to smash bros) pretty much killed his chances as being playable in Smash, and I never had any reason to see him as playable in the first place. If he did any voice acting done for Smash my guess would be some sort of cameo like the Codec from shadow moses.

 

[Xhampi]

What I don't get is, out of all the possible Metal gear characters, especially Snake, why Raiden? Being in Playstation All-Stars ( what I would consider a rival to smash bros) pretty much killed his chances as being playable in Smash, and I never had any reason to see him as playable in the first place. If he did any voice acting for Smash my guess would be some sort of cameo like the Codec from shadow moses.

I think we had a similar case with Krystal voice actress back in Brawl.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

Alternate Universe in which everything is exactly the same except whenever Ridley roars its

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I think we had a similar case with Krystal voice actress back in Brawl.

Yep, said she had voiced SSBB on her site, people went nuts, it was removed, turns out she was there only for codexes. So many people got their hopes up on that alone, only to be met by Wolf.

 

[NintenRob]

Alternate Universe in which everything is exactly the same except whenever Ridley roars its

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Its........... WHA?