Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Deleted member]

While unrelated to the current discussion, there is something I want to point out in regards to the "size" issue.
When people use Bowser as a counterpoint, "too biggers" retort that Bowser's only big due to magic and stuff.

.....that's a load of crock.
Sure, when Bowser goes mega Kaiju mode where he makes Ridley crap himself even at his largest incarnation, that's magic.
However, Bowser is typically still pretty damn huge compared to Mario without it.
Take a look at this image:

You see that? That's Bowser pre-magic in New Super Mario Bros. 2

You know what a similar size comparison between two characters is (that's recent to boot)?

And this isn't even considering that Ridley's appearance in Dead or Alive Dimensions is smaller.


So if this is acceptable despite Bowser's 'regular' size:

Then an equal comparison for Smash Samus and Ridley should be no issue at all.

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[Deleted member]

The exact same thing happened with mega man on gamefaqs. There was a lot of people saying he was unlikely and he'd be a waste of a slot, but now they're gone.

dedekong is one of those examples. I think he realize that after Mega Man's confirmation that he would lose any respect he had because he managed to keep the Mega Man fan base down with negativity in regards to him and realized that making horrible points regards to Ridley and Snake would not do him any favor. A big reason as to why I went on a frenzy defending Mega Man was because I wanted to show people that Mega Man not only was the best third-party choice, but was also still a realistic candidate, even if I had doubts with him getting in. At least dedekong humbled himself and admitted he was wrong before he left though.

If Ridley gets in, I wonder if Vaztor will humble himself or deny that he he gave the fan base so much pain ever since the pre-Brawl days.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

While unrelated to the current discussion, there is something I want to point out in regards to the "size" issue.
When people use Bowser as a counterpoint, "too biggers" retort that Bowser's only big due to magic and stuff.

.....that's a load of crock.
Sure, when Bowser goes mega Kaiju mode where he makes Ridley crap himself even at his largest incarnation, that's magic.
However, Bowser is typically still pretty damn huge compared to Mario without it.
Take a look at this image:

You see that? That's Bowser pre-magic in New Super Mario Bros. 2

You know what a similar size comparison between two characters is (that's recent to boot)?

And this isn't even considering that Ridley's appearance in Dead or Alive Dimensions is smaller.


So if this is acceptable despite Bowser's 'regular' size:

Then an equal comparison for Smash Samus and Ridley should be no issue at all.

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Excellent comparison Golden! This is a great comparison. I never thought of it that way. I know the recent arguments about Bowser and Magic was a crock as it was, but now...it's an even worse argument to make.

I'm still hoping Ridley is one of the first reveals on the site.

 

[Kamiko]

I've always thought he should be right around Bowser's size. His wings and tail can then make him seem twice as big and more intimidating.

Really, Bowser's changes are giving me a lot of hope for this game.

 

[Oasis_S]

If Ridley gets in, I wonder if Vaztor will humble himself or deny that he he gave the fan base so much pain ever since the pre-Brawl days.

A bit dramatic, don't you think.

anyway:

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What a goof.

I think the reason he looks so weird on all fours is because he's got those humanoid legs. At least Prime 3 had the decency to give him digitigrade legs when they put him on all fours.

 

[bobadz]

While unrelated to the current discussion, there is something I want to point out in regards to the "size" issue.
When people use Bowser as a counterpoint, "too biggers" retort that Bowser's only big due to magic and stuff.

.....that's a load of crock.
Sure, when Bowser goes mega Kaiju mode where he makes Ridley crap himself even at his largest incarnation, that's magic.
However, Bowser is typically still pretty damn huge compared to Mario without it.
Take a look at this image:

You see that? That's Bowser pre-magic in New Super Mario Bros. 2

You know what a similar size comparison between two characters is (that's recent to boot)?

And this isn't even considering that Ridley's appearance in Dead or Alive Dimensions is smaller.


So if this is acceptable despite Bowser's 'regular' size:

Then an equal comparison for Smash Samus and Ridley should be no issue at all.

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Excelllent post Golden but you might want to bring up Bowser's size in 64 and sunshine"

 

[Deleted member]

Excelllent post Golden but you might want to bring up Bowser's size in 64 and sunshine"

I was going for a more recent example.
Another would be here:

 

[bobadz]

I was going for a more recent example.
Another would be here:

I know' but someone's going to use it to argue with you,

 

[Deleted member]

Why would they use an argument where Bowser is clearly bigger than Mario without any sort of excuse as a point as to why Bowser can work and Ridley can't?

 

[Oasis_S]

They'll just say Bowser is smaller when he's playable.

And then completely turn off their brain from applying that same sort of scenario to Ridley because he is an exception for some reason.

Maybe instead of bringing up examples, you can try and ask them to think for themselves: "Why is Bowser smaller in the games where he is playable?"

 

[Kamiko]

How do you hide something in a spoiler?

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Yea that argument is a two way street. What applies to Bowser can apply to Ridley, and vice versa.

Really the size argument is a terrible one to begin with.

 

[Johnknight1]

I think the reason why people use the "too big" argument is because they learned the birds and the bees (from their parents wrong).

"Mommy, why does my *insert male body part here* get bigger?"

"Magic little Timmy, magic."

And thus, Little Timmy became an idiot, and thinks anytime anything grows, it must be "magic."

 

[Oasis_S]

I like how people are starting to bring up that he's to scary or something. I thought of that one forever ago when listing off possible arguments. Maybe they didn't notice that he was in Brawl, and not only fit in the art style (or whatever), but also retained his vicious nature. Hell, SAKURAI HIMSELF pretty much MADE UP that RAKE ACROSS THE WALL thing. I think Ridley's brutal nature is just fine, lol.

 

[Deleted member]

Not only that, but Nintendo isn't shy of some scary things, even in the most cutesy of games (looking at you Kirby).
Sakurai himself isn't shy of some "scary" content. He's the one who frigging STARTED the nightmarish entities in the world of Kirby.

 

[SmashShadow]

How do you hide something in a spoiler?

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Use regular brackets instead. [ ]

 

[Kamiko]

I've always loved that about Nintendo. Their sugar-coated visage hides some pretty nightmarish things.

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Like this?

 

[Deleted member]

A bit dramatic, don't you think.

Well it is fun to think of the Smash scene as more epic than it really is...

 

[Kamiko]

Well it is fun to think of the Smash scene as more epic than it really is...

You seem to be implying that it's not the most epic of all things ever.

Also, on the topic of size, I just found this:

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[bobadz]

I'm 85% sure Ridley is in based on this statement n the developer direct video."I get character requests from all over the world." Now, who do you were the most requested Characters? I can guarantee two. MegaMan, who is confirmed to be in, and Ridley. I have an idea else is in the top, but that's not point. My point is that Sakurai knows how popular Ridley is. And I have faith sakurai will add him. However I think he will not be revealed until very close to the games release. Because I think he will be an unlockable.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm 85% sure Ridley is in based on this statement n the developer direct video."I get character requests from all over the world." Now, who do you were the most requested Characters? I can guarantee two. MegaMan, who is confirmed to be in, and Ridley. I have an idea else is in the top, but that's not point. My point is that Sakurai knows how popular Ridley is. And I have faith sakurai will add him. However I think he will not be revealed until very close to the games release. Because I think he will be an unlockable.

Mewtwo and King K. Rool were also extremely highly requested overall if you take into account Shortie's poll and ChronoBound's observations of demands in Japan. I'd say that it goes like this; Mewtwo was the most wanted character, followed by Mega Man, King K. Rool and Ridley (only because he barely gets any requests in Japan).

 

[bobadz]

Mewtwo and King K. Rool were also extremely highly requested overall if you take into account Shortie's poll and ChronoBound's observations of demands in Japan. I'd say that it goes like this; Mewtwo was the most wanted character, followed by Mega Man, King K. Rool and Ridley (only because he barely gets any requests in Japan).

Those were the top Four I was thinking of. I have no idea who the fith is.

 

[Deleted member]

Those were the top Four I was thinking of. I have no idea who the fith is.

Probably Roy. He's the fifth most wanted character according to Shortie's poll and ChronoBound's observation puts him as among the two most wanted characters in Japan.

 

[bobadz]

I was doubting Roy's popularity outside of Japan so I didn't put him in the top 5.

 

[FalKoopa]

I like how people are starting to bring up that he's to scary or something.

Lol, seriously?

The answer: Giga Bowser in Brawl.

I like how people are starting to bring up that he's to scary or something.

Lol, seriously?

The answer: Giga Bowser in Brawl.

 

[IsmaR]

You seem to be implying that it's not the most epic of all things ever.

Also, on the topic of size, I just found this:

I posted this about a month ago, which may be why this isn't getting as much love now. Welcome to the corps, btw.

I was stuck at a gas station for the better part of my "day" which explains my I missed all the resizing discussions today.

I miss anything good?

 

[Kamiko]

What. How did I conveniently skip by something as great as that?

 

[IsmaR]

It was probably too big to notice at the time.

Edit: For your viewing pleasure. It probably would've had more likes if the other half of my post wasn't defending Other M.

 

[8-peacock-8]

 

[Kamiko]

I see.

So has anyone discussed the Ridley hat for Kirby? I imagine it would look funny sticking out like that. Unless it got shortened, but it might not really look like Ridley much then.

 

[8-peacock-8]

I see.

So has anyone discussed the Ridley hat for Kirby? I imagine it would look funny sticking out like that. Unless it got shortened, but it might not really look like Ridley much then.

 

[Kamiko]

Haha! That's way too cute. It looks like a baby dodongo.

Also, I was loving the moveset in that video until I saw that the tail spear would screw up his ability to fly.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Well not every moveset is perfect. lol

 

[Kamiko]

Yeah, but that one was so close.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Kirby...eating...Ridley? XD

 

[Kamiko]

He can do it if he tries! You just gotta shake your controller a bit!

 

[majora_787]

Man, that Ridley. My hype for him's actually more intense for Smash 4 than it was before Brawl. Not sure why.

 

[Dark Phazon]

He can do it if he tries! You just gotta shake your controller a bit!

Please change you front...its invisible.

 

[Phaazoid]

You seem to be implying that it's not the most epic of all things ever.

Also, on the topic of size, I just found this:

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Great, now samus is too big for smash, too? I'm going home, guys.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Damn i cant wait to see Giga Bowser though! Hes gonna look CRAZYYYY! in 1080p!!