Ignorant? No. Ignorance is you not seeing the Play to Win mentality. Oh, and what's this? You've been around a long time? Join date April?
By the way, "Play to Win" is not popping up RECENTLY. If you don't like Smashboards, by all means, leave.
Right, my join date..cause I haven't been playing Smash since 64, I mean there is no way in heck that I even have multiple logins on these boards right? I must be some crazy nub.
Also there is a HUGE difference between playing to win, and using cruddy tactics to win. I agree with what someone else posted that those who use desperate tactics such as the one i mentioned will always be outshined by the real Smash players who take the time to learn their character and to WIN by doing whatever is in their power to get better.
Now there are a TON of people who posted relatively negative responses that I would love to touch base with since I passed out after making this topic, but i'm not sure i'll respond to everyone so let me CLEAR SOME THINGS UP.
This topic was made after hearing about the Ness/Lucas "lock" where they can basically be grabbed, beaten, released-regrabbed beaten, released grabbed beaten, oversmashed for the easy KO. This particular method to me seems like a shoddy way to play to win. There is no skill here, nothing the opponent playing the Ness/Lucas can do besides pick a different character. What caused me to make this post in the beginning is that there was an alarming number of people saying that this makes total sense, there is nothing wrong with this, and that if they play to win, then why not use a tactic like this? Because it's shallow, cheap, and makes you look like a d-bag, that's why.
This topic is not about people who edgeguard.
I am not trying to make low-tier characters any better, but until this was discovered these characters actually were "high tier" now they are pretty worthless.
This topic IS NOT about ice climber's chain grab because that takes skill and practice to use, unlike the Ness/Lucas lock which can easily be done as long as you have fingers.
I think there is a mix-up between PLAYING TO WIN and people who will do anything to win, knowing no shame in the process.
In my opinion the afore mentioned tactic in no way helps the game, nor does it make it better, it is a simple rinse and repeat tactic that the opponent can not truly avoid based on skill. (sure you can avoid being grabbed but it will undoubtedly happen more than once in a match, ESPECIALLY if the person you are playing vs. is trying to do this)
I personally viewed this mentality as a bad thing, the fact that a good chunk of the community will gladly welcome something as trashy as this with open arms, and then state that they'll be using it cause they play to win is indeed disturbing.
Yuna- you can call me a scrub all you want, but it is not that I dislike winning, or striving to win, it is what competitive ANYTHING is all about, however I do have a problem with how some people have voiced that they plan on winning, and will do anything to win. I myself see something wrong with that statement, but maybe it's just me.
I appreciate ALL of the responses so far, the good and the bad, keep it up, I appreciate hearing everyone's opinions.