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You need to input the Nair during the jump-squat or no later than one frame after you've become airborne. If you Nair too late you'll get the landing lag of the Nair out of a SH. So just input the Nair quicker.
Well there's that thing I was talking about in the AT thread. You can look it up in the second post of the OP under 'Catch Lag Replacement'. It's practical utility still hasn't been tested though.
.mains change one of their trigger buttons to Special, to make tech such as C-Bouncing and Needle Fidgeting able to be executed with greater ease.
Not quite sure what you mean by a 'BTC' but more to the point of the question, the reason why Pit's arrow exploded the bomb the second time was because the arrow was charged enough. Toon's bomb can only absorb 5% damage, any more and it explodes.
I personally think Toon Link is fine on his aerials and tilts and etc. I also don't often do much comparisons in things like cool down and starting lag on moves between other characters unless its very obvious. But the only thing I personally feel the need to watch out for is the slight startup lag before pulling out a boomerang or a bomb, which is why I jump forwards or backwards to get the most movement out of it while I pull it out, sometimes even with my bow too because sometimes you can be caught in those frames. But I'm sure others have options/fact that prove a few reasons hes slower than one might think in such categories.
I like nair oos a lot, just be sure you let go of shield before pressing the attack button, or else you'll do a laggy zair. Another option, if you have a bomb in hand, jump oos and instant z drop, you could probably also izac oos too.
I've found grounded up b to cover just about all get ups, as long as you do it as a reaction to what they're doing then you should be safe from being bated and punished.I have questions about the ledge game.
What is like the safest and best way to punish the different ways of recovering from the ledge.
Do you have any effective ways of baiting a specific get up?
And opposite, which are the safest ways of recovering back to stage when your opponent is standing there waiting for your move?
This could almost be its own thread I guess.
Thanks in advance!
Boomerang, (Pivot) F-tilt, and Zair are probably the best/safest ways to cover ledge options for Toon imo due to the amount of active hitbox frames and their relative safety. The idea is to pick apart the small amount of invulnerability frames while out-spacing them and not over-committing yourself. Toon doesn't really have any really amazing options for this though.I have questions about the ledge game.
What is like the safest and best way to punish the different ways of recovering from the ledge.
Do you have any effective ways of baiting a specific get up?
And opposite, which are the safest ways of recovering back to stage when your opponent is standing there waiting for your move?
This could almost be its own thread I guess.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks so much! This is exactly what I was looking for
! I have also wanted to try to experiment with C4 on the edge but havent gotten that far yet.
I honestly hate camping, and so my solution is: f*ck that, TINK IS NOW A RUSHDOWN CHARACTER *AIRHORNS*!!! Or, in English: play Toon Link however you want, I personally play quite aggressively which is in no way ideal but it's how I have the most fun and hell, sometimes I catch people off guard with my play style.
It's more the floatiness and low range on his melee that I find awkward. I don't mind camping, I like the idea of getting creative with projectile walls and frame traps.
I don't find his lack of range too much of an issue considering most of the time I get melee attacks off of projectiles eg. jcgt bomb to fair/nair/up air, sweetspot rang to fair/nair/up air etc. Once they catch onto this though they'll start shielding which can give you mix up opportunities eg. run up (they shield) - jcgt up throw bomb - grab pummel (optional) - up throw (with neutral DI they're launched into the bomb).
Next time don't make a separate thread to ask a question.
No Toon doesn't have invincibility at any point in his boomerang. I believe what happened was that the animation of the aerial boomerang throw first let the bob-omb pass under Toon harmlessly, then when it was just past Toon, the boomerang throw animation extended a limb which set off the bob-omb but then immediately retracted, and by this time the bob-omb was already well past Toon and so Toon simply avoided the explosion altogether. It's just one of those freak occurrences.
About 34,7 I would say
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Any vids yet?
