The Phantom Mafia - So This Is How Liberty Dies

[Opossum]

What? I want to know how that could be proof.

My role itself proves it, because it's the only way the result I got makes sense.

 

[Maven89]

Konny, explain how the mafia was outed please

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Day 1 VCA:

Maven: 1 (Thirdkoopa)
Shiny: 1 (AlphaSSB)
Natz: 3 (Shish, Opossum, Praline)
Opossum: 3 (Nabe, FireEmblemier, Pokechu)
Nabe: 1 (Natz)
Z25: 1 (Shiny)

Not voted yet: GoldenYuitusin, Jojalole, Moydow, Maven, Z25

notes: At the very end, Shiny claimed to have an innocent on Natz. Natz ended up being the Lynch (because he reached to 3 first would make the most sense, but I haven't checked back the votals).

Natz's death gives us a lot of info, but Joja's tells us... almost nothing. LoneKon, your logic makes sense, but, I think we need to just take a moment here and look at the VCA. If we can, we should move all our votes towards a lynch to avoid a mess like yesterday's. I'm starting to think scum are two that haven't voted yet and two on the wagons, personally. Also, I think we need Golden, Moydow, and Maven to speak up so they don't go unnoticed by endgame.

Nabe contributes today or he hangs. Even if he got post restricted, it's wine and we need to get rid of it.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Konny, explain how the mafia was outed please

Nabe outed himself with his bluff and not ending up host killed when he "broke it"

Praline outed themselves when they jumped katherines lynch.

And Opossum outed himself by being to stubborn when previous mafias shown their cover.

 

[Opossum]

I failed English. Doesn't dispute my point.?

Lol, then you of all people DEFINITELY shouldn't be calling someone else a moron.

Come back with an argument sans ad hominem, kiddo.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

vote praline

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Day 1 VCA:

Maven: 1 (Thirdkoopa)
Shiny: 1 (AlphaSSB)
Natz: 3 (Shish, Opossum, Praline)
Opossum: 3 (Nabe, FireEmblemier, Pokechu)
Nabe: 1 (Natz)
Z25: 1 (Shiny)

Not voted yet: GoldenYuitusin, Jojalole, Moydow, Maven, Z25

notes: At the very end, Shiny claimed to have an innocent on Natz. Natz ended up being the Lynch (because he reached to 3 first would make the most sense, but I haven't checked back the votals).

Natz's death gives us a lot of info, but Joja's tells us... almost nothing. LoneKon, your logic makes sense, but, I think we need to just take a moment here and look at the VCA. If we can, we should move all our votes towards a lynch to avoid a mess like yesterday's. I'm starting to think scum are two that haven't voted yet and two on the wagons, personally. Also, I think we need Golden, Moydow, and Maven to speak up so they don't go unnoticed by endgame.

Nabe contributes today or he hangs. Even if he got post restricted, it's wine and we need to get rid of it.

No. We focus Nabe tomorrow. Praline dies tonight.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Let me clarify on LoneKon: The people he's saying are scum, and why, are mostly sensible to me.

My role itself proves it, because it's the only way the result I got makes sense.

...are we really doing this again? At least we're getting it out of the way early.

Konny, explain how the mafia was outed please

He claims Nabe claimed Silence, but, I'm thinking Nabe meant to say Post Restriction? I'm gonna wait to hear from Nabe, but, I already said I'm cool with a Nabe lynch if he doesn't contribute today.

 

[Maven89]

Nabe outed himself with his bluff and not ending up host killed when he "broke it"

Praline outed themselves when they jumped katherines lynch.

And Opossum outed himself by being to stubborn when previous mafias shown their cover.

That’s extremely weak evidence to claim the game is solved

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Lol, then you of all people DEFINITELY shouldn't be calling someone else a moron.

Come back with an argument sans ad hominem, kiddo.

I have no idea what sans ad hominem means.

Also were the same age. Where the hell are you acting high and mighty?


And once again. You have refused to dispute anything, only mock me.

I'm going to take that as you have no defense and an admission of guilt.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Oh no not Earthworm Jim! D:

In his death, it is clear that we all failed Jim. Let us observe a moment of silence.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

No. We focus Nabe tomorrow. Praline dies tonight.

We're in Day phase. In Mafia, you can't let a single person get away. We're now having Maven in the thread; if you don't press people on things, it could go to endgame.

We're getting Nabe to explain himself today while we focus on yesterday's shenanigans.

(also it's day phase)

 

[Deleted member]

Lol, then you of all people DEFINITELY shouldn't be calling someone else a moron.

Come back with an argument sans ad hominem, kiddo.

You are pretty smart, not going to lie. :/

You seem pretty fishy though... Why are you defending Nabe so much?

If I missed your points, well OOPS.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

whoa guys hold on
that is a lot of posts and I only just re-learned how to speak

 

[Deleted member]

You are pretty smart, not going to lie. :/

You seem pretty fishy though... Why are you defending Nabe so much?

If I missed your points, well OOPS.

Sorry if this came off as rude. I hate being rude.

 

[Opossum]

I have no idea what sans ad hominem means.

Also were the same age. Where the hell are you acting high and mighty?


And once again. You have refused to dispute anything, only mock me.

I'm going to take that as you have no defense and an admission of guilt.

Hey man, you came after me calling me an idiot while you've done nothing to support your claim. I'm not going to give the time of day to a mudslinger. I don't play Mafia games for that.

Let me clarify on LoneKon: The people he's saying are scum, and why, are mostly sensible to me.

...are we really doing this again? At least we're getting it out of the way early.

He claims Nabe claimed Silence, but, I'm thinking Nabe meant to say Post Restriction? I'm gonna wait to hear from Nabe, but, I already said I'm cool with a Nabe lynch if he doesn't contribute today.

Lol it's all good. It's not what you think.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

That’s extremely weak evidence to claim the game is solved

Nabe should of been host killed if his claim is completely legitimate for breaking it. And even then the actual status effect hes claiming to have been affected with had literally no bearing on his ability to communicate making it utterly pointless.

Thats strenght enough to consider it solved.

Praline was also initially pulled red flags during the day being indecisive and stagnant and then immediately jumped the lynch to kill Katherine the moment Opossum started the lynch.

And Opossum started that lynch in complete faith with no doubt over nabe. Which is odd in itself as there is nothing to give claim to nabes claim and only evidence against.

Both also voted and lynched the person who targeted nabe believing it to be false on an account separate.

This is the pattern I see and stick to.

 

[Deleted member]

Guys guys guys guys.
It is just a game. No need to start a fight.

 

[Maven89]

Though according to jojaole the proof of what was suppose to happen never came to light but oh well.

Explain this part please

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Lol it's all good. It's not what you think.

I'm... awfully curious now.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Guys guys guys guys.
It is just a game. No need to start a fight.

I play these games for the action and the Adrenalin (and Community), but, Praline and LoneWolf could tone it down a notch.

We have plenty of leads from Day 1.

 

[praline]

Nabe should of been host killed if his claim is completely legitimate for breaking it. And even then the actual status effect hes claiming to have been affected with had literally no bearing on his ability to communicate making it utterly pointless.

Thats strenght enough to consider it solved.

Praline was also initially pulled red flags during the day being indecisive and stagnant and then immediately jumped the lynch to kill Katherine the moment Opossum started the lynch.

And Opossum started that lynch in complete faith with no doubt over nabe. Which is odd in itself as there is nothing to give claim to nabes claim and only evidence against.

Both also voted and lynched the person who targeted nabe believing it to be false on an account separate.

This is the pattern I see and stick to.

Natz seemed scummy that’s why I voted for her. I don’t give a **** if Opo voted for her or not.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

We're in Day phase. In Mafia, you can't let a single person get away. We're now having Maven in the thread; if you don't press people on things, it could go to endgame.

We're getting Nabe to explain himself today while we focus on yesterday's shenanigans.

(also it's day phase)

We focus one at a time, and deal with the others another.

If you dissaude the lynch onto another then the main target then you are a companion of the lynch target and will be also consider a conspirator.

Hey man, you came after me calling me an idiot while you've done nothing to support your claim. I'm not going to give the time of day to a mudslinger. I don't play Mafia games for that.

Good. That ego will serve you well when we get around to your lynch two days from now.

 

[Deleted member]

I play these games for the action and the Adrenalin (and Community), but, Praline and LoneWolf could tone it down a notch.

We have plenty of leads from Day 1.

I think it is Opossum and Kon fighting, not praline fighting Kon.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Natz seemed scummy that’s why I voted for her. I don’t give a **** if Opo voted for her or not.

A person genuine scum hunting and casting doubt you immeditally suspected to be scummy.

Also your exact post was to opossum "that sounds good to me" meaning you did give a **** that opossum voted for her.

And that you gave no reasoning of her being scummy. You went with the flow.

 

[Opossum]

Nabe should of been host killed if his claim is completely legitimate for breaking it. And even then the actual status effect hes claiming to have been affected with had literally no bearing on his ability to communicate making it utterly pointless.

Thats strenght enough to consider it solved.

Praline was also initially pulled red flags during the day being indecisive and stagnant and then immediately jumped the lynch to kill Katherine the moment Opossum started the lynch.

And Opossum started that lynch in complete faith with no doubt over nabe. Which is odd in itself as there is nothing to give claim to nabes claim and only evidence against.

Both also voted and lynched the person who targeted nabe believing it to be false on an account separate.

This is the pattern I see and stick to.

Hanlon's Razor. It takes far fewer assumptions to think Nabe was truthful rather than pulling an elaborate ruse.

Meanwhile Natz was pulling some unsportsmanlike conduct, and that's scummy to me. Was it a bad call in retrospect? No ****. But at least we now have something to go off of.

 

[Deleted member]

Natz seemed scummy that’s why I voted for her.

Oh "I was wrong lololol safe vote"?

Explain why you thought she was suspicious. You should have paid more attention and voted for a more suspicious user instead of jumping on Natz~.

Natz~ was a confirmed Jedi. I CONFIRMED IT!

 

[Thirdkoopa]

We focus one at a time, and deal with the others another.

What I've been saying but in different wording; that focus doesn't mean we can't pressure Nabe or the lurkers into posting. I'm not opposing the Praline lynch in any way, I'm just opposing us losing out on information. You feel me?

I think it is Opossum and Kon fighting, not praline fighting Kon.

I don't even know anymore.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Explain this part please

Gladly.

To prove if nabe was to kill or not, he was suppose to be roleblocked. If everyone came on and no one clamed to be dueled, then the one role blocked had to had tried to kill someone.

Though according to the wording of jojaoles sacrifice, all night kills are disabled. Meaning we have no idea if that made a difference. Making the proof that was suppose to be shown never came to light.

 

[Opossum]

Oh "I was wrong lololol safe vote"?

Explain why you thought she was suspicious. You should have paid more attention and voted for a more suspicious user instead of jumping on Natz~.

Natz~ was a confirmed Jedi. I CONFIRMED IT!

Slow down there. You absolutely did not confirm your role.

 

[Deleted member]

Slow down there. You absolutely did not confirm your role.

Yes I did.

I said I was a one-day cop and Bar and I used our role to prove she was a Jedi.

Guess what was Natz~ when she died?

A Jedi.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Hanlon's Razor. It takes far fewer assumptions to think Nabe was truthful rather than pulling an elaborate ruse.

Meanwhile Natz was pulling some unsportsmanlike conduct, and that's scummy to me. Was it a bad call in retrospect? No ****. But at least we now have something to go off of.

Just because it takes fewer assumptions does not make it the truth. You are being blind or by my suspicions the third scum.

She was frustrated by a clear ploy. Unsportsmanlike or not it is clear she was on to something.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

What I've been saying but in different wording; that focus doesn't mean we can't pressure Nabe or the lurkers into posting. I'm not opposing the Praline lynch in any way, I'm just opposing us losing out on information. You feel me?


I don't even know anymore.

Good. I still desire your vote on Parline then. After we have the scum on a lynch we shall seek the other two out for additional information.

 

[Deleted member]

If praline is actually a Jedi, than I have no idea what to expect.

 

[Deleted member]

If praline is actually a Jedi, than I have no idea what to expect.

But yeahh, lets just take praline out.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

If praline is actually a Jedi, than I have no idea what to expect.

I'm certain They are sith. Their behavior day 1 fits no where else.

 

[Opossum]

You know what, I might as well say it since it was a one-time use anyway. Just to clear the air.

Praline, if you didn't redirect anything, why would a lie detection on "I'm town" yield No Result instead of True or False?

I wasn't blocked, as I got a result. You claimed to have not redirected me. And yet what I got wasn't true or false. So one of two things happened here.

1. Due to the nature of the detection revealing your identity, but the godfather status concealing it, it masked the result,

OR

2. You DID redirect me, which would mess with that ability, which would give us reason to believe you're scum due to Lynch All Liars.

 

[praline]

Oh "I was wrong lololol safe vote"?

Explain why you thought she was suspicious. You should have paid more attention and voted for a more suspicious user instead of jumping on Natz~.

Natz~ was a confirmed Jedi. I CONFIRMED IT!

Again like the post I made that you ignored. You saying she’s a jedi didn’t comfirm anything. We’ve never had a day vig. You saying she was a jedi randomly during the day made me not think she was a jedi. Frankly you saying that still doesn’t get you off the hook. It’d be easy for you to say that cause you would know that she was town.

A person genuine scum hunting and casting doubt you immeditally suspected to be scummy.

Also your exact post was to opossum "that sounds good to me" meaning you did give a **** that opossum voted for her.

And that you gave no reasoning of her being scummy. You went with the flow.

His reasons made sense, on top of what I said to Shiny in this post. I am sorry that she turned out to be a jedi but she seemed scummy to me.

 

[Deleted member]

I know I might sound mad, but this is actually fun to read.

Interesting.

Continue the fun Opossum and LoneKonWolf.

While I drink my water.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

You know what, I might as well say it since it was a one-time use anyway. Just to clear the air.

Praline, if you didn't redirect anything, why would a lie detection on "I'm town" yield No Result instead of True or False?

I wasn't blocked, as I got a result. You claimed to have not redirected me. And yet what I got wasn't true or false. So one of two things happened here.

1. Due to the nature of the detection revealing your identity, but the godfather status concealing it, it masked the result,

OR

2. You DID redirect me, which would mess with that ability, which would give us reason to believe you're scum due to Lynch All Liars.

Huh. Guess your useful for something.

 

[praline]

You know what, I might as well say it since it was a one-time use anyway. Just to clear the air.

Praline, if you didn't redirect anything, why would a lie detection on "I'm town" yield No Result instead of True or False?

I wasn't blocked, as I got a result. You claimed to have not redirected me. And yet what I got wasn't true or false. So one of two things happened here.

1. Due to the nature of the detection revealing your identity, but the godfather status concealing it, it masked the result,

OR

2. You DID redirect me, which would mess with that ability, which would give us reason to believe you're scum due to Lynch All Liars.

I’m pretty sure you can’t use I’m town for a lie detector so that’s why you got no result, Opo.