The Perfect Roster

Goosey_021

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#41
Every character in Ultimate so far stays in except for Dr. Mario (becomes a Mario alt), Pichu, Wii Fit Trainer and Lucina (becomes a Marth alt).
Ganondorf, Dark Pit, Daisy and the Mario Bros. get their movesets reworked.
New characters:
Mario - Waluigi, Geno. Geno isn’t one of my favourites for Smash but I know he is a very popular character.
LoZ - Skull Kid
Pokémon - Blaziken and Weavile, with Pokken-based movesets.
F-Zero - Black Shadow (gets a moveset similar to old Ganon)
Star Fox - Krystal
Kirby - Marx
Splatoon - Octoling
Third Party - King (Tekken), Banjo-Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie)
 

Perkilator

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#42
Mario: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy (not an Echo, but at the same time not too different), Bowser, Bowser Jr. (uses paintbrush after Abandoning Ship instead of a hammer), Rosalina and Luma, Captain Toad, Paper Mario, Dr. Mario (slightly decloned)

Zelda: Link, Zelda, Shiek, Young Link (mostly decloned, with his masks), Ganondorf (decloned), Toon Link, Ghirahim

Yoshi: Yoshi, Yarn Yoshi

Kirby: Kirby, Meta Knight, Deded, Bandana Dee, Dark Matter

Donkey Kong: DK, Diddy, K. Rool, Dixie (36£)

Star Fox: Fox, Falco, Wolf, James (7£)

Metroid: Samus, ZSS, Dark Samus (4£), Ridley

Pokémon: Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Pichu (decloned), Mewtwo, Lucario, Greninja, PKMN Trainer’s Pokémon as separate fighters, Incineroar, Blacephalon (DLC)

Fire Emblem: Marth, Roy, Ike, Robin, Lucina (21£), Corrin, Alm (25£), Chrom (32£), Hector, Camilla (Hector£), Edelgard (DLC)

Kid Icarus: Pit, Palutena, Dark Pit (28£), Magnus

Pikmin: Olimar, Alph (40£)

Earthbound/Mother: Ness, Lucas, Porky

WarioWare: Wario, Captain Syrup, Mona

F-Zero: Captain Falcon, Black Shadow (11£)

Animal Crossing: Villager, Isabelle

Punch-Out!!: Little Mac, King Hippo

Xenoblade: Shulk, Elma, Rex and Pyra

Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic (Flame Shield Side-B), Shadow (38£), Dr. Eggman

Retro: R.O.B., Ice Climbers, Mr. Game and Watch, Duck Hunt, Ayumi Tachibani, Takamaru

Modern: Inkling, Spring Man (DLC), Ribbon Girl (Spring Man£, also DLC), Labo Man (DLC)

Third Party: Snake, Mega-Man, PAC-MAN, Ryu, Ken (60£), Cloud, Zack Fair (61£), Bayonetta, Simon Belmont, Richter Belmont (66£), Sora (DLC), Roxas (Sora£, also DLC), Heihachi Mishima (DLC), Professor Layton (DLC)

Total Characters: 106

…Okay.
 

R O F L

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#43
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Mario Series: :ultmario::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultdaisy::ultbowser::ultdoc::ultrosalina::ultbowserjr:(Paper Mario) (Toad)

-Add Paper Mario and Toad
-Give Dr. Mario his own unique moveset


Yoshi Series::ultyoshi:(Kamek)

-Add Kamek

I don't know why Yoshi isn't part of the Mario series, the only games where that make sense are the new ones (Woolly World and Crafted World).


Warioware Series: :ultwario:(Ashley)

-Add Ashley

The Legend of Zelda Series: :ultlink::ultzelda::ultganondorf::ultsheik::ulttoonlink::ultyounglink:(Impa) (Skull Kid)

-Add Impa and Skull Kid
-Revert Ganondorf to his Twilight Princess Design
-Revert Sheik back to whatever the design was in Melee

I don't know muh about TLoZ, I've only ever player Wind Waker. From what I know, I wanted to make each Character represent a different title in the franchise.
Link - BoTW
Zelda - Whatever her new design comes from
Ganondorf - Twilight Princess
Sheik - Ocarina of Time
Toon Link - Cell Shaded Zelda games or just Wind Waker
Impa - Hyrule Warriors?
Skull Kid - Majora's Mask
Young Link - I know there has got to be another game with Young Link in it that is not MM or OoT.

Also, if someone knows a good Zelda game to start with please tell me.


Kirby Series: :ultkirby::ultmetaknight::ultkingdedede:(Bandana Waddle Dee) (Magolor)

-Add Bandana Dee and Magolor


Pokemon Series: :ultpikachu::ultmewtwo::ultlucario::ultpokemontrainer::ultpichu::ultjigglypuff::ultgreninja:(Decidueye)

-Keep Pichu
-Add Decidueye

I never played Pokemon but I like how Decidueye looks more than Incineroar sooooo....


Donkey Kong Series: :ultdk::ultdiddy::ultkrool:(Dixie Kong) (Cranky Kong) (Funky Kong)

-Add Dixie Kong who is an echo of Diddy and Funky Kong who is an echo of DK
-Add Cranky Kong

This might seem like a lot, but considering Donkey Kong is Nintendo's 4th best selling franchise I think it deserves a good amount of characters.


Metroid Series::ultsamus::ultridley::ultzss::ultdarksamus:

-Give Dark Samus a unique moveset.


Fire Emblem Series::ultmarth::ultrobin::ultchrom::ultcorrin::ultike:(Black Knight)

-Remove Lucina and Roy
-Add Black Knight as an echo of Ike

I never played Fire Emblem but I know for a fact that Black Knight is a villain, and I'm always happy with getting new villains for a series that had none.


Star Fox Series: :ultfox::ultfalco::ultwolf:(Krystal)

-Add Krystal

Never played Star Fox but I know that Krystal is a fan favorite


Pikmin Series: :ultolimar:(Alph) (Louie) (Plasm Wraith)

-Add Alph as an echo of Olimar
-Add Louie and Plasm Wraith


Kid Icarus Series: :ultpit::ultdarkpit::ultpalutena:

-Keep Dark Pit as an echo, just give him more differences


Animal Crossing Series: :ultvillager::ultisabelle:(Tom Nook)

-Add Tom Nook

I'm happy with Isabelle's inclusion, now Animal Crossing isn't underrepresented. Also would Tom Nook count as a villain?


Xenoblade Series: :ultshulk:(Rex & Pyra)

-Add Rex & Pyra

Never played Xenoblade but I know people want Rex & Pyra so uh...


F-ZERO Series: :ultfalcon:(Black Shadow)

-Add Black Shadow as an echo of Captain Falcon.

F-ZERO needs a tiny bit more representation, I never played it so I just chose the character I've heard of the most.


Splatoon Series: :ultinkling:(Octoling)

-Add Octoling as an echo fighter of Inkling

Even though I absolutely hate everything about Octolings from their design to the lore behind them, the Splatoon series would feel underrepped without them.


Earthbound: :ultness::ultlucas:

NO CHANGES


Retro and Other::ultgnw::ultrob::ultduckhunt::ulticeclimbers::ultmiifighters::ultlittlemac::ultwiifittrainer:(Excite Biker)

-Add Excite Biker


Third Party::ultsonic::ultpacman::ultmegaman::ultsnake::ultsimon::ultrichter::ultryu::ultcloud::ultbayonetta:(Banjo Kazooie) (Steve)

-Add Banjo Kazooie and Steve


Wow this took longer than I thought...
 

Northadox

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#44
Here's my roster, by series. Characters with a character in parentheses next to their name means that they are an echo to another character.
Note: I clumped up G&W, R.O.B., and Duck Hunt together into a single franchise.
:ultmario::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultbowser::ultrosalina::ultbowserjr:, Geno, Koopalings (:ultbowserjr:)
:ultdk::ultdiddy::ultkrool:, Funky Kong (:ultdk:), Dixie Kong (:ultdiddy:)
:ultlink::ultzelda::ultganondorf::ulttoonlink:, Midna, Ganon
:ultsamus::ultridley:, :ultdarksamus: (:ultsamus:)
:ultyoshi:
:ultkirby::ultmetaknight::ultkingdedede:, Marx, Galacta Knight (:ultmetaknight:)
:ultfox::ultwolf:, :ultfalco: (:ultfox:)
:ultpikachu::ultmewtwo::ultpokemontrainer: (:squirtle:, :ivysaur:, :charizard:):ultlucario::ultgreninja:, Gardevoir, Gothitelle (Gardevoir),:ultpichu: (:ultpikachu:)
:ultness::ultlucas:, Porky/Pokey, Ninten (:ultness:), Kumatora (:ultlucas:)
:ultfalcon:, Black Shadow (:ultfalcon:/:ultganondorf:)
:ultmarth::ultike::ultrobin:, Hector, Ephraim, :ultroy: & :ultchrom: (:ultmarth:)
:ultgnw::ultrob::ultduckhunt:, Excitebiker, Ancient Minister (:ultrob:)
:ultpit::ultpalutena:, :ultdarkpit: (:ultpit:), Medusa (:ultpalutena:)
:ultwario:, Jimmy T.
:ultsnake:, Big Boss (:ultsnake:)
:ultsonic:, Dr. Eggman, Shadow (:ultsonic:)
:ultolimar:, Alph (:ultolimar:)
:ultvillager::ultisabelle:
:ultmegaman:
:ultwiifittrainer:
:ultlittlemac:
:4miibrawl::4miigun::4miisword:, Mii Caster
:ultpacman:
:ultshulk:
:ultryu:, Ken (:ultryu:)
:ultcloud:, Black Mage
:ultinkling:, Octoling (:ultinkling:)
:ultsimon:, :ultrichter: (:ultsimon:)

Some new series newcomers:
Cave Story: Quote, Curly Brace (Quote)
Ace Attorney: Phoenix Wright, Miles Edgeworth (Phoenix Wright)
Professor Layton: Professor Layton
Banjo-Kazooie: Banjo & Kazooie

Yeah, that's about it.
 

DongleDude

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#45
If I may ask why did you downgrade Falco?
Here's my roster, by series. Characters with a character in parentheses next to their name means that they are an echo to another character.
Note: I clumped up G&W, R.O.B., and Duck Hunt together into a single franchise.
:ultmario::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultbowser::ultrosalina::ultbowserjr:, Geno, Koopalings (:ultbowserjr:)
:ultdk::ultdiddy::ultkrool:, Funky Kong (:ultdk:), Dixie Kong (:ultdiddy:)
:ultlink::ultzelda::ultganondorf::ulttoonlink:, Midna, Ganon
:ultsamus::ultridley:, :ultdarksamus: (:ultsamus:)
:ultyoshi:
:ultkirby::ultmetaknight::ultkingdedede:, Marx, Galacta Knight (:ultmetaknight:)
:ultfox::ultwolf:, :ultfalco: (:ultfox:)
:ultpikachu::ultmewtwo::ultpokemontrainer: (:squirtle:, :ivysaur:, :charizard:):ultlucario::ultgreninja:, Gardevoir, Gothitelle (Gardevoir),:ultpichu: (:ultpikachu:)
:ultness::ultlucas:, Porky/Pokey, Ninten (:ultness:), Kumatora (:ultlucas:)
:ultfalcon:, Black Shadow (:ultfalcon:/:ultganondorf:)
:ultmarth::ultike::ultrobin:, Hector, Ephraim, :ultroy: & :ultchrom: (:ultmarth:)
:ultgnw::ultrob::ultduckhunt:, Excitebiker, Ancient Minister (:ultrob:)
:ultpit::ultpalutena:, :ultdarkpit: (:ultpit:), Medusa (:ultpalutena:)
:ultwario:, Jimmy T.
:ultsnake:, Big Boss (:ultsnake:)
:ultsonic:, Dr. Eggman, Shadow (:ultsonic:)
:ultolimar:, Alph (:ultolimar:)
:ultvillager::ultisabelle:
:ultmegaman:
:ultwiifittrainer:
:ultlittlemac:
:4miibrawl::4miigun::4miisword:, Mii Caster
:ultpacman:
:ultshulk:
:ultryu:, Ken (:ultryu:)
:ultcloud:, Black Mage
:ultinkling:, Octoling (:ultinkling:)
:ultsimon:, :ultrichter: (:ultsimon:)

Some new series newcomers:
Cave Story: Quote, Curly Brace (Quote)
Ace Attorney: Phoenix Wright, Miles Edgeworth (Phoenix Wright)
Professor Layton: Professor Layton
Banjo-Kazooie: Banjo & Kazooie

Yeah, that's about it.
 

SorMago

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#46
Mario (10) :ultmario::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultdaisy::ultrosalina::ultbowser::ultbowserjr::ultyoshi::ultwario:(Waluigi)
Dr. Mario would be an alt of Mario and Mario would go back to having his original moveset. Dry Bowser would be an Alt Costume for Bowser. Added Waluigi as a unique character (cause he should be)
Zelda (8) :ultlink::ultyounglink::ultzelda::ultganondorf::ultsheik:(Impa)(Mipha)(Skull Kid)
Toon Link would be an Alt Costume of Young Link. Impa would be something close to what she is in Hyrule Warriors. Heavy hitter, but a light character overall. Mipha was added cause spears are cool. Skull Kid is just an awesome character and deserves some spotlight.
Pokemon (7):ultpikachu::ultjigglypuff::ultgreninja::ultpokemontrainer::ultmewtwo:(Decidueye)(Team Rocket)
Got rid of Lucario because he always felt like a cheap imitation of Mewtwo when he came in. Also left out Pichu. Would much rather see Decidueye than yet another fire based anything. Team Rocket would function like Pokemon Trainer, but would have different Pokemon and therefore cant be a clone since the move-sets for each would be vastly different.
Fire Emblem (7) :ultmarth::ultchrom::ultrobin::ultike::ultcorrin:(Lyn)(Camila)
Cut Roy (Which is almost a sin) but added Lyn (who would serve similar purposes). Lucina could just be a Alt costume for Marth. Added Camila to represent the axe users in FE.
Donkey Kong (5):ultdk::ultdiddy::ultkrool:(Dixie Kong)(Cranky Kong)
Like the lineup of Donkey Kong but felt there could be more. Funky Kong would be an Alt costume for DK. Admittedly Cranky is kinda a joke character to me.
Kirby(4) :ultkirby::ultkingdedede::ultmetaknight:(Bandana Dee)
Similar to Donkey Kong I like the lineup, but the inclusion of Bandana Dee just fills it out nicely.
Metroid (4) :ultsamus::ultdarksamus::ultzss::ultridley:
No changes here except that Dark Samus would have an original move-set.
Kid Icarus (4) :ultpit::ultdarkpit::ultpalutena:(Medusa)
Actually haven't played any of the new Kid Icarus games, but Medusa in researching seems like a unique character and could make a cool fighter. Dark Pit would also be worked into a new fighter using different attacks.
Star Fox (2) :ultfox::ultwolf:
Cut Falco to make room for Wolf (I just don't see the need for Falco)
Animal Crossing (2) :ultvillager::ultisabelle:
Nothing needs to be added here
Mother (2) :ultness::ultlucas:
These series are represented well
Splatoon (1) :ultinkling:
Give the Octolings as an Alt costume and your good.
Pikmin (1) :ultolimar:
Alt costumes for all you want (The pikmin are the stars of the show)
Xenoblade (2) :ultshulk:(Rex/Pyra)
Give the starlight to the Main protagonists.
F-Zero (2) :ultfalcon:(Black Shadow)
No need to add anyone else
Nintendo Classics (8) :ultduckhunt::ulticeclimbers::ultlittlemac::ultmiifighters::ultgnw::ultrob::ultwiifittrainer:(Isaac)
Added Isaac to this category cause for the most part he only has one game (this coming from a big fan of all 3), but would be my most anticipated character.
Third party characters (11) :ultbayonetta::ultcloud::ultmegaman::ultpacman::ultryu::ultsimon::ultrichter::ultsnake::ultsonic: (Geno)(Shantae)(Prowler)
Geno. All that needs to be said, and added Shantae cause I know a some people who really like her games. Prowler would be a cool addition from the Monster Hunter series.
Total Characters: 79

I wanted to get rid of most of the clones if not all. Echos are nice, but ultimately just another name for a clone so many of the ones I've kept are changed in my mind to fit their character better.
 
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Northadox

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#47
If I may ask why did you downgrade Falco?
I've got some opinions coming in hot: when you have a character whose moveset has to be pretty much entirely made up (due to Fox's rare non-pilot roles), make a clone for the character (:falcomelee:), revamp the clone's moveset to be a semi-clone (:falco:) and then make yet another semi-clone of the character (:wolf:, and barely so), and then further declone that semi-clone (:ultwolf:), I just think it's redundant. People didn't mind Falco just being a clone of Fox in Melee and when push comes to shove, I'd rather have resources be put into other new characters who can take more from their games. It might be extreme, but if a character can't be faithful to their franchise in Smash Bros., I'd rather just not have them in at all.
Perhaps I shouldn't have decloned him, though. This is the ideal roster - everyone should have their favorites, and their favorites should be as unique as possible.
 
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#48
Toon Link would be an Alt Costume of Young Link.
Toon Link and Young Link have different body structures, Toon Link can't be a costume for him.
Got rid of Lucario because he always felt like a cheap imitation of Mewtwo when he came in.
Mewtwo and Lucario only share one move, they are nothing alike beyond that.
 

SorMago

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#49
Toon Link and Young Link have different body structures, Toon Link can't be a costume for him.

Mewtwo and Lucario only share one move, they are nothing alike beyond that.
My reasoning for saying Lucario is a cheap imitation comes back from when he was first announced. Everyone I knew and talked to about Smash was looking forward to having Mewtwo back in the day, but instead we got Lucario. He was presented as the new Mewtwo, which was a huge letdown for my friends and I. So yes after playing him, I know he is a different character just one that gave me a bad taste in my mouth.

As for Toon Link....well I would get rid of him then or make him a DLC character. Personally don't see that big of difference in body structure other than the belt is slightly lower. making his legs appear shorter.
 

Wiziliz

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#50
Super Smash Legends

Main Characters (Heroes vs Villains)
Super Mario - Mario, Bowser
Donkey Kong - Donkey Kong, King K. Rool
The Legend of Zelda - Link, Ganondorf
Metroid - Samus, Dark Samus
Yoshi - Yoshi, Kamek
Kirby - Kirby, King Dedede
Star Fox - Fox, Wolf
Pokémon - Pikachu, Giovanni
Earthbound - Ninten, Giegue
F-Zero - Captain Falcon, Black Shadow
Fire Emblem - Marth, Ashnard
Kid Icarus - Pit, Medusa
Wario Land - Wario, Captain Syrup
Pikmin - Olimar, Louie
Punch-Out!! - Little Mac, King Hippo
Splatoon - Inkling, Octarian
Super Smash Bros. - Sandbag, Galleom

34

Secret/Hidden Characters
Super Mario - Luigi, Geno
Donkey Kong - Diddy & Dixie
The Legend of Zelda - Midna & Wolf Link, Skull Kid
Metroid - Dark Samus
Kirby - Meta Knight
Star Fox - Falco, Krystal
Pokémon - Pokémon Trainer (Sceptile, Greninja, Charizard), Jigglypuff
Earthbound - Ness, Lucas
Golden Sun - Isaac
Mach Rider - Mach Rider
Fire Emblem - Lyn, Ike
Kid Icarus - Palutena
Xenoblade - Elma
ARMS - Spring Man
Rhythm Heaven - Chorus Kids
Super Smash Bros. - Master Hand

24

DLC Characters
Banjo-Kazooie
Simon Belmont
Bayonetta
Shantae
Travis Touchdown
Wii Safety Notice Man

6

64 Playable Fighters in Total
 

lucasla

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#51
Keep everyone.

Changes Mario's FLUDD to a Cappy throw with a similar effect of push enemies back, and keeps Doctor Mario as the actual Mario with the FLUDD, only with the different doctor skin.

Add:
Rayman
Crash Bandicoot
Banjo-Kazooie
Toad
Midna+Wolf Link
Impa
Dixie Kong (Echo)
Shadow (Echo)

No love for Waluigi, Geno or Skull Kid, so, that's it.

EDIT: Oh no, not everyone! Remove Duck Hunt. I hate this character cause it reminds me of the hunting and death of cute innocent little ducks and I think there's no space for this representation here.
 
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#52
:ultmario::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultdaisy::ultrosalina::ultbowser::ultbowserjr::ultdoc: King boo, petey piranha, captain toad, waluigi (goes here?) but yes Mario can have 12
:4link::ultzelda::ultganondorf:Impa,:ulttoonlink:vaati,tingle:ultyounglink:skull kid :ultlink:
:025::052::039::094::133::150::175::183::237::227:I don’t really know Pokémon
:ultmarth:Hardin,Lyn:ultroy::ultike:black Knight,:ultrobin::ultcorrin: Sigurd, Celica
:ultdk::ultdiddy::ultkrool: funky, Dixie&Kiddy
:ultsamus::ultzss::ultdarksamus::ultridley: Sylux
:ultkirby::ultmetaknight::ultkingdedede: Bandanna, dee Marx,
:ultness::ultlucas:Ninten, masked man, porky.
:ultfalcon: Black shadow,
:ultshulk: Elma
:ultfox::ultfalco::ultwolf:Krystal,Andross
#72 Ray 01
:ultgnw:
:ultrob:
:ultduckhunt:
:ulticeclimbers:
Mech rider
:ultlittlemac:
:ultvillager:
:ultwiifittrainer:
:ultinkling:
#82 Twintell
:ultpit::ultpalutena::ultdarkpit: Medusa, hades
:ultwario:
:ultyoshi:
#:ultsonic:
:ultsnake:
:ultpacman:
:ultmegaman:
Issac
#95:ultcloud:
Billy Lee
Banjo & kazooie
Crash
Spyro
#100 Master chief
 
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#54
I'd probably say all the base game fighters from Smash Ultimate, but make the transformation Final Smashes fully playable once again; Giga Bowser, Wario-Man, Giga Mac, & Mega Lucario.

I can't say a whole lot about the newcomer fighters, but I'd probably put down the following characters...
  • Toad
  • Waluigi? (if he can finally get some mainstream involvement)
  • Bandanna Waddle Dee
  • Tails
  • Shadow
  • Akuma
 
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#55
*Cracks knuckles* Let's do this
:ultmario::ultpeach::ultdaisy::ultbowser::ultdoc::ultrosalina::ultbowserjr::ultpiranha:(Koopalings) Waluigi, Geno, Captain Toad and Captain Toadette, Fawful, Paper Mario, Dry Bowser,
:ultdk::ultdiddy::ultkrool: Dixie Kong, Lanky Kong, Funky Kong, Cranky Kong
:ultlink::ultsheik::ultzelda::ultganondorf::ultyounglink::ulttoonlink: Impa, Skull Kid, Vaati, Medli, Ruto, Nabooru, Darunia, The 4 BOTW champions, Ghirahim, Hilda, Ganon, Linkle
:ultsamus::ultdarksamus::ultridley::ultzss: Sylux
:ultyoshi: Yarn Yoshi, Kamek, Shy Guy
:ultkirby::ultkingdedede::ultmetaknight: Bandana Dee, Marx, Gooey, Adeline and Ribbon, Daroach, Dark Meta Knight, Galacta Knight, Morpho Knight, Magolor, Taranza, Susie, Queen Sectonia, Prince Fluff, Shadow Kirby, Masked Dedede, Hyness, Jambastion mages
:ultfox::ultfalco::ultwolf: Slippy, Peppy, Krystal, Leon, Panther, Pigma
:ultpikachu::ultjigglypuff::ultpichu::ultmewtwo::ultlucario::ultpokemontrainer::ultgreninja::ultincineroar: Decidueye Lycanroc, Evee, Arceus, Palkia
:ultluigi:Professor E. Gadd, King Boo
:ultness::ultlucas:Ninten, Poo, Paula, Kumatora, Giygas, masked Man, Porky
:ultfalcon: Black Shadow, Blood Falcon, Samurai Goroh
:ultmarth::ultlucina::ultroy::ultchrom::ultike::ultrobin::ultcorrin: Lyn, Alm, Celica, Edelgard, Hector, Tiki Grima
:ultpit::ultdarkpit::ultpalutena: Viridi, Magnus, Hades, Medusa
:ultwario: Ashley, Mona, Jimmy T
:ultshulk:, Rex and Pyra, Elma, Fiora
:ultinkling: Callie, Marie, Pearl, Marina, Octoling, DJ Octavio
Master Chief
Hollow Knight
Shovel Knight
 

CodakTheWarrior

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#57
Alright here we go. I hope this doesn’t offend you all but the 10-per series rule just doesn’t allow me to create the perfect roster in my eyes, so I will not abide by it. In addition, I will also bring back every character, because in my opinion in order to be ‘perfect’ it would have to appease as many people as possible. Anyway, here we go:

Super Mario (14): Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy (echo), Bowser, Dr Mario, RosaLuma, Bowser Jr, Piranha Plant, Geno, Captain Toad, Paper Mario, Waluigi, King Boo

Donkey Kong (6): Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, King K Rool, Dixie Kong (Diddy Semi-clone), Funky Kong (DK echo), Cranky Kong

The Legend of Zelda (11): Link, Shiek, Zelda, Young Link, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Skull Kid, Impa (Shiek echo), Midna, Vaati, Ganon

Metroid (5): Samus, Dark Samus (echo), Zero Suit Samus, Ridley, Sylux

Yoshi (4): Yoshi, Boshi (echo), Poochy, Kamek

Kirby (6): Kirby, Meta Knight, King D3, Bandana Dee, Marx, Magolor

StarFox (5): Fox, Falco, Wolf, Slippy (Another Semi of Fox), Krystal

Pokemon (11/13): Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Pichu, Mewtwo, Pokemon Trainer (Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard), Lucario, Greninja, Incineroar, Gengar, Blaziken (Captain Falcon Semi), Decidueye

Earthbound (4): Ness, Lucas, Ninten (Echo of Ness using some Lucas moves), Porky

F-Zero (2): Captain Falcon, Black Shadow (Echo)

Ice Climber (1): Ice Climbers

Fire Emblem (8): Marth, Lucina (echo), Roy, Chrom (echo), Ike, Robin, Corrin, Black Knight (Ike Semi)

Game and Watch (1): Mr Game and Watch

Kid Icarus (4): Pit, Dark Pit (echo), Palutena, Medusa (Unique, but uses unused Palutena custom specials as default)

WarioWare (2): Wario, Ashley

Metal Gear (2) Snake, Big Boss (echo)

Sonic the Hedgehog (5): Sonic, Shadow (Semi), Tails, Knuckles, Dr Eggman

Pikmin (2): Olimar, Alph (Echo)

R.O.B. (1): R.O.B.

Animal Crossing (5): Villager, Isabelle (Semi), Tom Nook, KK Slider, Mr Resetti

Megaman (5): Megaman, Protoman (Semi), Zero, Bass, Dr Wily (Eggman Semi)

Wii Fit (1): Wii Fit Trainer

Punch-Out (4): Little Mac, Glass Joe (Echo, purposefully bad like Pichu), Doc Louis (Mac Semi), King Hippo

Mii (1/3): Mii Fighter (Brawler, Swordfighter, Gunner)

PAC-MAN (2): Pac-Man, Mrs Pac-Man (Echo)

Xenoblade (3): Shulk, Elma, Rex and Pyra

Duck Hunt (1): Duck Hunt

Street Fighter (3): Ryu, Ken (Echo), Akuma

Final Fantasy (3): Cloud, Sephiroth, Black Mage

Bayonetta (2): Bayonetta, Jeanne (Echo)

Splatoon (3): Inkling, Octoling (Echo), DJ Octavio

Castlevania (3): Simon, Richter (Echo), Alucard



New Series:

Golden Sun (2): Issac, Felix (Echo)

Ace Attorney (2): Phoenix Wright, Miles Edgeworth (Echo)

Additional Retros (3): Excitebiker, Takamuru, Mike Jones

Additional Third Parties (13): Crash, Bomberman, Banjo-Kazooie, Sora, Master Chief, Agumon, Lloyd, Heihachi, Erdrick, Steve, Rayman, Shovel Knight, Shantae

There you go, that took a while. If I think of any other good additions I’ll add them but for now this is it, ask any questions u have about my choices if u feel it
 
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Mine goes a little over 100, simply because it's hard for me to choose between which characters are more worthy than others. And while I never expect to have a Smash game with over 100 characters, this is just for fun so why the heck not dream a little? I had to break the 10 max rule just for a few series, like Pokemon, where it came to reps (ones of which I will explain), but everything else I followed.
With that said, all fighters in my perfect roster would return as well, except some would become transformations once again (example Sheik for Zelda) and some would become alts (example Dr. Mario for Mario)

(12) Mario: :ultmario:(Dr. Mario becomes an alt):ultluigi::ultpeach::ultdaisy:(new moveset):ultrosalina::ultbowser::ultbowserjr::ultpiranha: Geno, Toad, King Boo, Paper Mario
The Mario series is the face of Nintendo and has a whole world of unique characters. As such, they have the most reps in Smash Bros alongside Zelda

(2) Yoshi: :ultyoshi: Birdo

(4) Donkey Kong: :ultdk::ultdiddy::ultkrool:Dixie Kong

(5) WarioWare: :ultwario: Waluigi, Ashley, Captain Syrup, Mona

(12) Zelda: :ultlink::ultzelda:(with Sheik transformation):ultganondorf::ultyounglink:(new moveset based on mask transformations):ulttoonlink: Twili Midna, Tetra (with Toon Zelda transformation), Impa, Ghirahim, Skull Kid
The Zelda series is arguably the most unique franchise in Nintendo. Because of this, the series has a large library of games to choose characters from. You can't represent many of them with just 10 characters, so they have 12 alongside Mario.

(4) Metroid: :ultsamus::ultzss::ultdarksamus::ultridley:

(4) Kid Icarus: :ultpit::ultdarkpit::ultpalutena: Medusa

(6) Kirby: :ultkirby::ultmetaknight::ultkingdedede:Bandana Dee, Magolor, Adeleine and Ribbon

(4) Star Fox: :ultfox::ultfalco::ultwolf: Krystal

(3) Animal Crossing: :ultvillager::ultisabelle: Tom Nook

(4) Splatoon: :ultinkling: Octoling (echo fighter), Callie, Marie

(2) F-Zero: :ultfalcon: Jody Summer

(1) Pikmin: :ultolimar: (Brittany and Louis become new alts alongside Alph)

(6) Retro: :ulticeclimbers::ultgnw::ultrob::ultduckhunt: Takamaru, Ayumi Tachibana

(11) Pokemon: :ultpikachu::ultjigglypuff::ultmewtwo::ultpichu::ultpokemontrainer::ultlucario::ultgreninja::ultincineroar: The next gen's grass starter, Plusle and Minun, Meloetta
I might have been able to narrow it down to 10 characters, but I wanted to make sure I got representation for what was crucially missing in Smash: A final evolution grass starter, a Gen 3 Pokemon, and a Gen 5 Pokemon

(4) Earthbound: :ultness::ultlucas:Ninten, Kumatora

(1) Wii Fit: :ultwiifittrainer:

(1) Punch Out: :ultlittlemac:

(1) Panel de Pon: Lip

(1) Chibi Robo: Chibi Robo

(11) Fire Emblem: :ultmarth::ultroy::ultike::ultlucina::ultrobin::ultchrom::ultcorrin: Azura, Lyn, Alfonse, Micaiah
While many argue Fire Emblem has too many fighters in Smash, the series has a wide range of different weapon users with diverse personalities. Plus, Fire Emblem is becoming one of Nintendo's most popular IPs. This is why they get 11 reps

(3) ARMS: Springman, Ribbon Girl (echo fighter), Twintelle

(1) Rhythm Heaven: Reporter and Wrestler

(1) Golden Sun: Isaac

(1) Xenoblade: :ultshulk:

(1) The Last Story: Zael

(1) Pandora's Tower: Aeron

(1) Shantae: Shantae

(1) Pac-Man: :ultpacman: (Miss Pac-Man becomes a new alt)

(1) Mega Man: :ultmegaman:

(2) Sonic: :ultsonic: Tails

(3) Street Fighter: :ultryu::ultken: Chun Li

(4) Castlevania: :ultsimon::ultrichter: Alucard, Sypha

(1) Metal Gear: :ultsnake:

(1) Bayonetta: :ultbayonetta:

(1) Final Fantasy: :ultcloud:

(1) Resident Evil: Leon

(1) Banjo and Kazooie: Banjo and Kazooie

(1) Kingdom Hearts: Sora

(1) Persona: Joker

(1) Bubble Bobble: Bub (with a Bob alt)

(1) Parasite Eve: Aya Brea

(1) Spyro: Spyro

(1) Bomberman: Bomberman

(1) Ace Attorney: Phoenix Wright

(1) Professor Layton: Professor Layton

(1) Darkstalkers: Morrigan

(1) Tales of Symphonia: Lloyd Irving

(1 - technically 5) Mii: :ultbrawler::ultgunner::ultswordfighter: Mage, Athlete

Total: 135
 

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Mario Series: :ultmario::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultdaisy::ultbowser::ultdoc::ultrosalina::ultbowserjr::ultyoshi:(Paper Mario) (Toad) (King Boo)

-Add Paper Mario, Toad, and King Boo
-Give Dr. Mario his own unique moveset

Warioware Series: :ultwario:(Ashley)

-Add Ashley

The Legend of Zelda Series: :ultlink::ultzelda::ultganondorf::ultsheik::ulttoonlink::ultyounglink:(Impa) (Skull Kid)

-Add Impa and Skull Kid
-Revert Ganondorf to his Twilight Princess Design
-Revert Sheik back to whatever the design was in Melee

I don't know muh about TLoZ, I've only ever player Wind Waker. From what I know, I wanted to make each Character represent a different title in the franchise.
Link - BoTW
Zelda - Whatever her new design comes from
Ganondorf - Twilight Princess
Sheik - Ocarina of Time
Toon Link - Cell Shaded Zelda games or just Wind Waker
Impa - Hyrule Warriors?
Skull Kid - Majora's Mask
Young Link - Ocarina of Time

Also, if someone knows a good Zelda game to start with please tell me.


Kirby Series: :ultkirby::ultmetaknight::ultkingdedede:(Bandana Waddle Dee) (Magolor)

-Add Bandana Dee and Magolor


Pokemon Series: :ultpikachu::ultmewtwo::ultlucario::ultpokemontrainer::ultpichu::ultjigglypuff::ultgreninja:(Decidueye) (Gen 8 Fire Starter)

-Keep Pichu but make him an echo
-Add Decidueye and Gen 8 Fire Starter

Donkey Kong Series: :ultdk::ultdiddy::ultkrool:(Dixie Kong, echo) (Cranky Kong) (The Animal Buddies)

-Add Dixie Kong who is an echo of Diddy
-Add Cranky Kong
-Add The Animal Buddies (Would work similar to how Rick, Kine, & Coo work in Star Allies)

This might seem like a lot, but considering Donkey Kong is Nintendo's 4th best selling franchise I think it deserves a good amount of characters.


Metroid Series::ultsamus::ultridley::ultzss::ultdarksamus:

-Give Dark Samus a unique moveset.


Fire Emblem Series::ultmarth::ultrobin::ultchrom::ultcorrin::ultike:(Black Knight)

-Remove Lucina and Roy
-Add Black Knight as an echo of Ike

I never played Fire Emblem but I know for a fact that Black Knight is a villain, and I'm always happy with getting new villains for a series that had none.


Star Fox Series: :ultfox::ultfalco::ultwolf:(Krystal)

-Add Krystal

Never played Star Fox but I know that Krystal is a fan favorite


Pikmin Series: :ultolimar:(Alph) (Louie)

-Add Alph as an echo of Olimar. Give Olimar a President alt and give Alph Brittany and Charlie alts.
-Add Louie


Kid Icarus Series: :ultpit::ultdarkpit::ultpalutena:

-Keep Dark Pit as an echo, just give him more differences


Animal Crossing Series: :ultvillager::ultisabelle:(Tom Nook)

-Add Tom Nook

I'm happy with Isabelle's inclusion, now Animal Crossing isn't underrepresented. Also would Tom Nook count as a villain?


Xenoblade Series: :ultshulk:(Rex & Pyra)

-Add Rex & Pyra to rep Xeno 2


F-ZERO Series: :ultfalcon:(Black Shadow, echo)

-Add Black Shadow as an echo of Captain Falcon.

F-ZERO needs a tiny bit more representation, I never played it so I just chose the character I've heard of the most.


Splatoon Series: :ultinkling:(Octoling)(Salmonid)

-Add Octoling as an echo fighter of Inkling
-Add Salmonid

Earthbound: :ultness::ultlucas:

NO CHANGES


Retro and Other::ultgnw::ultrob::ultduckhunt::ulticeclimbers::ultmiifighters::ultlittlemac::ultwiifittrainer:(Excite Biker)

-Add Excite Biker


Third Party::ultsonic::ultpacman::ultmegaman::ultsnake::ultsimon::ultrichter::ultryu::ultcloud::ultbayonetta:(Banjo Kazooie) (Steve)

-Add Banjo and Kazooie, Steve, Joker, Doom Slayer, Bomberman, and Shovel Knight.


Wow this took longer than I thought...

Edited mine, edits are in the quote.

Alt costumes for all you want (The pikmin are the stars of the show)
If you've ever played Pikmin, you'd know that this is not the case.
Olimar and every other captain is what the story is based upon, I'll also mention the fact that you play as the captains, and not the Pikmin.
The Pikmin themselves are the equivalent of different weapons, they just have unique designs.
 
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#60
Put Chibi Robo in the game and I'm happy

I'm not a troll. Just because I don't agree with others doesn't make me a troll. I'm also not seeking respect. The thing I've learned years ago is that people you might respect or look up to without actually knowing them oftentimes turns out badly. You end up getting disrespected or ignored by those you like. Popularity and fame are overrated.
"Villager has a punchable face" Aight I see
 

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I'd try to avoid any cuts if possible. After having Mewtwo and Snake, two of my favourite characters, cut, I'm well aware of how annoying that can be, and every character has their fans.



Mario: add Geno - Mario already has nine characters, and while it's a tough choice between Captain Toad, Waluigi, and Geno, I feel like Geno's a more popular and interesting choice, and unlike the other two, it seems unlikely that he'd appear in any Mario spin-offs due to being owned by Square-Enix

Donkey Kong: add Dixie; her and K. Rool were easily the most notable absences as far as Donkey Kong characters go, and it seems odd that she was considered for Brawl (even if it was as a tag-team partner for Diddy) and never made the leap to playable

Yoshi: add Kamek - I figure he could have an interesting moveset, and I figure it would help to justify Yoshi still being considered its own series

Wario: I considered adding Captain Syrup, but decided to make room for other characters

Star Fox: I thought about adding Krystal, but ran out of space

Zelda: add Skull Kid - he's a popular choice, and as Hyrule Warriors shows, they've got more than enough material to work with for any Zelda character. It seems weird to me that Zelda hasn't gotten any unique newcomers since 2001.

Kid Icarus: I kept it as-is; for a three game series where people generally only remember two of the games, it seems like a good amount

Pokemon: kept it as-is; I'm not familiar enough with Pokemon beyond generation 3 to pick a character from those generations, and I'd rather not use up the limited space on a character that nobody knows about, like a hypothetical gen. 8 Pokemon.

Splatoon: added Octoling, since it seems like a character that would be easy enough to include.

Fire Emblem: seven characters is more than enough in my eyes

Xenoblade: added Elma along with Rex and Pyra. I feel like Xenoblade Chronicles X shouldn't be forgotten just because the Wii U didn't sell well, and Rex and Pyra seem like a no-brainer.

Kirby: added Bandanna Waddle Dee, since he's quickly become a part of the core Kirby cast since the Wii.

other returning franchises: didn't add anyone; either I was satisfied with the amount of characters that they had, or there wasn't enough material to work with. I considered adding Porky for Mother, but it felt like a bit of a stretch.

New Nintendo franchises:

-Joy Mech Fight (I feel like it's fitting to have Nintendo's first attempt at a fighting game included in their big fighting game crossover)

-the Mysterious Murasame Castle (Takamaru's assist trophy alone shows that he has a lot to work with and would stand out quite a bit among the roster)

-Star Tropics (the franchise has been heavily neglected by Smash Bros. as a result of not getting a Japanese release - not getting a trophy, I understand, but not getting a single spirit or sticker seems bizarre given how obscure some of them are)

-Golden Sun (Isaac really should have been playable)

-Eternal Darkness (I'd love to see what they could do with a stage for the series, and the magic system seems to have a lot of potential)

-Sin & Punishment (Saki's assist trophy is quite versatile, and it shows that he'd make for a fun character, but I went with Isa over Saki since Isa has a greater emphasis on mobility)

-the Wonderful 101 (as Bayonetta shows, it seems straightforward for characters to go from Platinum's style of action games to Smash Bros.)

Third Party companies:

-Konami: added Bomberman; it's a shame that he was stuck as an assist trophy

-Sega: didn't add anyone

-Capcom: added Dante from the Devil May Cry series - I realize that he's unlikely, but ever since I played Devil May Cry 3 and 4, I'd love to see how he would work in Smash

-Namco-Bandai: added Heihachi; it seems strange that Namco-Bandai only has one character despite working on the game, and while I'm not overly familiar with Tekken, Heihachi stands out for me among the characters in the series. Plus, he'd be a rare case of a villain being the face of a franchise.

-Square-Enix: added Erdrick (and Geno, who's listed among the Mario characters) - Dragon Quest is an insanely influential series that doesn't really get the respect it deserves

-others: added Rayman (it's baffling that they've gotten permission to use him twice and only included him as a trophy at best), Travis Touchdown (he just seems like he'd be a lot of fun), Doomguy (same sort of reason as Dante and Travis), Shovel Knight (he seems like a natural fit for a game like Smash Bros., especially if you go by his Rivals of Aether incarnation), and Banjo-Kazooie (realistically, it's never going to happen, but this isn't meant to be realistic)

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I probably went way too heavy on the third parties, but I guess that's because a lot of those characters are exciting choices for me. As for the new Nintendo series, I'd like to see Smash add some franchises, like Golden Sun, that barely missed the cut in previous games due to coming out at the wrong time, so that they can cover more of Nintendo's history as opposed to just what's brand new or what was made in the NES era.
 

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#62
Feel free to tell if you think my roster is bad and why. Personally, I found this the perfect roster. It represents almost every IPs they have. Only one serie per editor.

FIRST PARTIES :

Super Mario serie : :ultmario:(:ultdoc: as an alt, alongside Jumpman)[:ultluigi:(Doctor Luigi as an alt) with a new moveset and he can walk jump now]:ultpeach:[:ultbowser: now throws fire balls instead of fire breath]:ultrosalina::ultbowserjr:[:ultdaisy: with a new moveset with crystals and flowers]:ultpiranha:Waluigi, King Boo, Captain Toad. (11 fighters)

Paper Mario serie : Paper Mario. (1 fighter)

Donkey Kong serie : :ultdk::ultdiddy:Dixie Kong, :ultkrool:Stanley (5 fighters)

The Legend Of Zelda serie : :ultlink::ultzelda:(:ultsheik: as down-B):4ganondorf:(:ultganondorf: as an alternate):ulttoonlink:, Toon Zelda(Tetra as down-B), Tingle, Impa (with Skyward Sword, OoT and Hyrule Warriors design), Epona, Midna. (11 fighters)

Yoshi serie : :ultyoshi:, Kamek. (2 fighters)

Metroid serie : :ultsamus::ultzss::ultridley:[:ultdarksamus: decloned]. (4 fighters)

Kirby serie : :ultkirby::ultmetaknight::ultkingdedede:, Bandana Dee, Knuckle Joe, Nightmare. (6 fighters)

Star Fox serie : :ultfox:(James McCloud as an alternate):ultfalco::ultwolf:, Krystal, Pigma (5 fighters)

Pokemon serie : :ultpikachu:(Detective Pikachu as an alt):ultpokemontrainer::ultmewtwo::ultpichu:(Ukulele Pichu as an alt), Blaziken:ultlucario:, Zoroark,:ultgreninja::ultincineroar: (11 fighters)

Mother serie : Ninten, :ultness:(PSY Hypnosis replace PSY Fire):ultlucas:(PSY Rockin' replace PSY Fire). (3 fighters)

F-ZERO serie : :ultfalcon: (1 fighter)

Ice Climbers game : :ulticeclimbers: (1 fighter)

Fire Emblem serie : :ultmarth:(:ultlucina: as an alt), Lyn, :ultroy::ultike::ultrobin:[:ultchrom: decloned]:ultcorrin:, Micaiah (7 fighters)

Game&Watch serie : :ultgnw: (1 fighter)

Kid Icarus serie : :ultpit:(original Pit as an alt):ultdarkpit::ultpalutena: (3 fighters)

Warioware serie : :ultwario: (1 fighter)

Pikmin serie : [:ultolimar: with his old Up-B and his 6 pikmins], [Loui with Bulbmins], [Alph with purple pikmins replaced by rock pikmins and white pikmins gone, and his actual Up-B] . (3 fighters)

R.O.B device : :ultrob: (1 fighter)

Animal Crossing serie : :ultvillager::ultisabelle:, Tom Nook. (3 fighters)

Wii Fit serie : :ultwiifittrainer:(with Lin from Fitness Boxing as an alt). (1 fighter)

Punch-Out serie : :ultlittlemac:(original Mac as an alt). (1 fighter)

Xenoblade serie : :ultshulk:, Elma, Rex&Pyra/Mythra. (3 fighters)

NES Zapper serie : :ultduckhunt: (1 fighter)

Splatoon serie : :ultinkling:, Octoling (with Octoling foes from Adventure mode as an alt). (2 fighters)

Mii serie : [:ultmiifighters: alongside the three actual classes of Miis, there are other classes, like Musician, Mage and Sportman]. (1 fighter)

Big Brain Academy serie : Dr Lobe. (1 fighter)

Style Savvy serie : Stylist. (1 fighter)

Nintendog serie : Nintendog (with Nintencat as an alt). (1 fighter)

Golden Sun serie : Isaac. (1 fighter)

Rythm Paradise serie : Karate Joe. (1 fighter)

Art Academy : Vince. (1 fighter)

Nintendo Wars serie : Andy. (1 fighter)

Panel de Pon serie : Lip. (1 fighter)

Hanafuda card game : Daitoryo. (1 fighter)

Nintendo's toys : Mini-Kanguroo. (1 fighter)

Joy Mech Fight game : Sukapon. (1 fighter)


THIRD PARTIES :

Sonic the Hedgehog serie : :ultsonic:(with original Sonic as an alt), Tails. (2 fighters)

Castlevania : :ultsimon:(:ultrichter: as an alt). (1 fighter)

Megaman serie : :ultmegaman: (1 fighter)

PAC-MAN serie : :ultpacman: (1 fighter)

Bayonetta serie : :ultbayonetta: (1 fighter)

FINAL FANTASY VII : :ultcloud: (1 fighter)

Bomberman serie : Bomberman. (1 fighter)

Rayman serie : Rayman.

Minecraft serie : Steve (Alex and Herobrine as an alt).



TOTAL AMOUNT OF FIGHTERS : 110 characters.
 
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#63
Super Mario
-Add Waluigi
- Make Dr.Mario Mario's alt colour.

Pokemon
-Replace Incineroar with Decidueye
- Replace Lucario with Darkrai
 

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#64
I'd try to avoid any cuts if possible. After having Mewtwo and Snake, two of my favourite characters, cut, I'm well aware of how annoying that can be, and every character has their fans.



Mario: add Geno - Mario already has nine characters, and while it's a tough choice between Captain Toad, Waluigi, and Geno, I feel like Geno's a more popular and interesting choice, and unlike the other two, it seems unlikely that he'd appear in any Mario spin-offs due to being owned by Square-Enix

Donkey Kong: add Dixie; her and K. Rool were easily the most notable absences as far as Donkey Kong characters go, and it seems odd that she was considered for Brawl (even if it was as a tag-team partner for Diddy) and never made the leap to playable

Yoshi: add Kamek - I figure he could have an interesting moveset, and I figure it would help to justify Yoshi still being considered its own series

Wario: I considered adding Captain Syrup, but decided to make room for other characters

Star Fox: I thought about adding Krystal, but ran out of space

Zelda: add Skull Kid - he's a popular choice, and as Hyrule Warriors shows, they've got more than enough material to work with for any Zelda character. It seems weird to me that Zelda hasn't gotten any unique newcomers since 2001.

Kid Icarus: I kept it as-is; for a three game series where people generally only remember two of the games, it seems like a good amount

Pokemon: kept it as-is; I'm not familiar enough with Pokemon beyond generation 3 to pick a character from those generations, and I'd rather not use up the limited space on a character that nobody knows about, like a hypothetical gen. 8 Pokemon.

Splatoon: added Octoling, since it seems like a character that would be easy enough to include.

Fire Emblem: seven characters is more than enough in my eyes

Xenoblade: added Elma along with Rex and Pyra. I feel like Xenoblade Chronicles X shouldn't be forgotten just because the Wii U didn't sell well, and Rex and Pyra seem like a no-brainer.

Kirby: added Bandanna Waddle Dee, since he's quickly become a part of the core Kirby cast since the Wii.

other returning franchises: didn't add anyone; either I was satisfied with the amount of characters that they had, or there wasn't enough material to work with. I considered adding Porky for Mother, but it felt like a bit of a stretch.

New Nintendo franchises:

-Joy Mech Fight (I feel like it's fitting to have Nintendo's first attempt at a fighting game included in their big fighting game crossover)

-the Mysterious Murasame Castle (Takamaru's assist trophy alone shows that he has a lot to work with and would stand out quite a bit among the roster)

-Star Tropics (the franchise has been heavily neglected by Smash Bros. as a result of not getting a Japanese release - not getting a trophy, I understand, but not getting a single spirit or sticker seems bizarre given how obscure some of them are)

-Golden Sun (Isaac really should have been playable)

-Eternal Darkness (I'd love to see what they could do with a stage for the series, and the magic system seems to have a lot of potential)

-Sin & Punishment (Saki's assist trophy is quite versatile, and it shows that he'd make for a fun character, but I went with Isa over Saki since Isa has a greater emphasis on mobility)

-the Wonderful 101 (as Bayonetta shows, it seems straightforward for characters to go from Platinum's style of action games to Smash Bros.)

Third Party companies:

-Konami: added Bomberman; it's a shame that he was stuck as an assist trophy

-Sega: didn't add anyone

-Capcom: added Dante from the Devil May Cry series - I realize that he's unlikely, but ever since I played Devil May Cry 3 and 4, I'd love to see how he would work in Smash

-Namco-Bandai: added Heihachi; it seems strange that Namco-Bandai only has one character despite working on the game, and while I'm not overly familiar with Tekken, Heihachi stands out for me among the characters in the series. Plus, he'd be a rare case of a villain being the face of a franchise.

-Square-Enix: added Erdrick (and Geno, who's listed among the Mario characters) - Dragon Quest is an insanely influential series that doesn't really get the respect it deserves

-others: added Rayman (it's baffling that they've gotten permission to use him twice and only included him as a trophy at best), Travis Touchdown (he just seems like he'd be a lot of fun), Doomguy (same sort of reason as Dante and Travis), Shovel Knight (he seems like a natural fit for a game like Smash Bros., especially if you go by his Rivals of Aether incarnation), and Banjo-Kazooie (realistically, it's never going to happen, but this isn't meant to be realistic)

---

I probably went way too heavy on the third parties, but I guess that's because a lot of those characters are exciting choices for me. As for the new Nintendo series, I'd like to see Smash add some franchises, like Golden Sun, that barely missed the cut in previous games due to coming out at the wrong time, so that they can cover more of Nintendo's history as opposed to just what's brand new or what was made in the NES era.
I agree for the most part, except for Mario. I think that Captain Toad and King Boo represents better the serie than Geno. Also, I think it's important to privilege first parties over third parties. While I would love to see Rayman, I think that other franchises deserve to be in. I would love Sukapon being playable, and original movesets are okay to me. So I think characters like Vince or a Style Savvy character would be original and fun. For Zelda, I think that we should stop watching to old titles. Impa for example would be good, and we could take her Skyward Sword and Hyrule Warriors design. Eternal Darkness is fine in my opinion.
Well, if characters have original movesets, that's fine. But for more third-parties, I say no. We have enough of that. Also, Pikmin should have the same amount of characters as Mother, since it's bigger than Mother.
 

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I agree for the most part, except for Mario. I think that Captain Toad and King Boo represents better the serie than Geno. Also, I think it's important to privilege first parties over third parties. While I would love to see Rayman, I think that other franchises deserve to be in. I would love Sukapon being playable, and original movesets are okay to me. So I think characters like Vince or a Style Savvy character would be original and fun. For Zelda, I think that we should stop watching to old titles. Impa for example would be good, and we could take her Skyward Sword and Hyrule Warriors design. Eternal Darkness is fine in my opinion.
Well, if characters have original movesets, that's fine. But for more third-parties, I say no. We have enough of that. Also, Pikmin should have the same amount of characters as Mother, since it's bigger than Mother.
I'd also like to see Captain Toad in Smash, but the limit in the first post was ten characters per franchise, and while Geno's owned by Square-Enix, I can't see him as anything but a Mario character. If the limit (either for the number of characters per franchise or the roster) was larger, Captain Toad would definitely be in there. While I've played Luigi's Mansion, I don't recall King Boo having much to go on for Smash, and I haven't played Luigi's Mansion 2.

When it comes to Smash newcomers, I generally prefer to see characters that I could easily see in a fighting game - Wii Fit Trainer was a controversial pick for me for a while because of that. I've never played Style Savvy or Art Academy, so I have no idea how characters from those games could possibly work, and I can't picture them being in Smash. (besides, I was concerned that I went overboard with new Nintendo franchises as it is, and I probably could have added an Advance Wars, Last Story, Codename S.T.E.A.M., and/or Custom Robo character)

Impa and Midna were close behind Skull Kid in terms of a new Zelda character, but I could only fit one of them, and Skull Kid's popularity seemed more consistent over the years. I'd gladly add all three of them, though - Hyrule Warriors made it pretty clear that there's a lot of material to work with for a new Zelda character (material that the Smash developers have been ignoring so far), and any of them would be fun. (and a nice change of pace from variations on Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf)

For Pikmin, maybe I could have upgraded Alph into an echo fighter - just give him Rock Pikmin instead of Purple Pikmin, Winged Pikmin (which make whatever they grab lighter) instead of White Pikmin, and he's already more of a unique character than Dark Pit or Daisy. However, if I was to go with a unique character, there wouldn't be many options - maybe Plasm Wraith, if you accept the fan theory that it's also the Waterwraith from Pikmin 2.

As for third party characters, I figure that Nintendo couldn't have gotten as far as it has without the help of third party developers - the relative failure of the Wii U, and the sheer amount of content droughts once most third party developers abandoned that console, was a sign of that. I could probably cut some of the new ones if I was trying to be realistic (Dante, Banjo, Travis Touchdown), but those are the characters that I'd be excited to see.
 

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#66
Key: (Character) = Echo Fighter. [Character] = Alternate Costume. Neither of these count towards the overall character count.

Mario: :ultmario:(:ultdoc:), :ultluigi:, :ultpeach:(:ultdaisy:),
[
], :ultrosalina:, :ultbowser:, :ultbowserjr:[:ultlarry::ultroy2::ultwendy::ultiggy::ultmorton::ultlemmy::ultludwig:], :ultpiranha:,
.
* Echo'd Doctor Mario. He might be sorta unique, but he's not too unique. Sorry Doc, Echo it is.
+ Added Toad. He's such a Major component to the series. IMO, he and Geno are the only ones we're missing for perfect mario representation.
+ Added Toadette and the Captains as Costumes for Toad.
+ Added Geno. And with that, Mario's representation is perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

DK: :ultdk:, :ultdiddy:,
, :ultkrool:.
+ Added Dixie. She's Unique enough, and the series feels right with 4 characters.

The Legend of Zelda : :ultlink:, :ultzelda:, :ultsheik:,
, :ultganondorf:,
, Ghirahim, :ulttoonlink: [:ultyounglink:].
* Gave Sheik her Melee Design, but kept her Ultimate Moveset.
+ Added Impa. Represents Hyrule Warriors.
* Gave Ganondorf his Brawl/Sm4sh Design, but kept his Ultimate Moveset.
+ Added Skull Kid. Represents Majora's Mask. Also, my first choice for a new Zelda Rep.
+ Added Ghirahim. Represents Skyward Sword
* Turned Young Link into a Costume for Toon Link. He just isn't unique enough to justify keeping him as a character over Toon Link.

Metroid: :ultsamus: (:ultdarksamus:), :ultzss:, :ultridley:.
Metroid is Perfect as is. Next question.

Yoshi: :ultyoshi:, Kamek.
- Removed from the game due to IRS investigation.
+ Added Kamek.

Kirby: :ultkirby:, :ultmetaknight: (
), :ultkingdedede:,
,
.
+ Added Dark Matter as an Echo of Meta Knight. Reps the Original GB Games. The main Focus of this is to give more representation to the series than Super Star.
+ Added Bandana Dee. Represents the Modern Games (Return to Dream Land, Triple Deluxe, Planet Robobot, Star Allies).
+ Added Adeline. Represents Crystal Shards. Also is Best Girl.

Star Fox: :ultfox:, :ultfalco:, :ultwolf:,
.
+ Added Krystal. Now there's one character for every original game in the series. don't kill me

Pokemon: :ultpikachu:(:ultpichu:), :ultjigglypuff:, :ultmewtwo:, :ultpokemontrainer:[:ultpokemontrainerf:], Entei,
, :ultlucario:, Zoroark, :ultgreninja:, :ultincineroar:.
* Echo'd Pichu. Just for fun.
+ Added Entei. Represents Gen 2.
+ Added Sceptile. Represents Gen 3.
+ Added Zoroark. Represents Gen 5.

Mother: :ultness: (
), :ultlucas:, Porky.
+ Added Ninten as an Echo of Ness.
+ Added Porky for that sweet, sweet Villain representation.


F-Zero: :ultfalcon: (
).
+ Added Black Shadow as an Echo of Captain Falcon

Ice Climbers: :ulticeclimbers:.
Icies can only have one rep. Who else would there be? The Polar Bear? Condor? Ooh, I know: Eggplant for Smash!

Fire Emblem: :ultmarth:(:ultlucina:), :ultike: (
), :ultroy: (:ultchrom:),
, :ultrobin:[:ultrobinf:], :ultcorrin:[:ultcorrinf:],
.
+ Added Black Knight as an Echo of Ike. Now the 3 core lords all have echos.
+ Added Lyn, because she deserves it. Also is Best Girl.
+ Added Byleth because 3 Houses hype.

Game and Watch: :ultgnw:.
Who else would there be? Mrs. Game and Watch? Don't be silly.

Wario: :ultwario:,
,
.
Expecting Notes? Too Bad, Waluigi Time.

Metal Gear: :ultsnake:.
Who else would there be? A reason for the third time I've done this Joke? That doesn't exist.

Sonic: :ultsonic: (
).
+ Added Shadow as an Echo. He should have been in Ultimate, but whatever. I'm not bitter.

Pikmin: :ultolimar:.
Eh. As much as I love Pikmin, I don't really think it deserves a rep other than Olimar.

ROB: :ultrob:.

Animal Crossing: :ultvillager: [:ultvillagerf:], :ultisabelle:.

Mega Man: :ultmegaman: (Proto Man).
+ Added Proto Man as an Echo.

Wii Fit: :ultwiifittrainer: [:ultwiifittrainerm:].

Punch-Out: :ultlittlemac:.

Mii: :ultmiifighters:.

Pac-Man: :ultpacman: (
).
+ Added Ms. Pac Man as an Echo.

Xenoblade: :ultshulk:,
.
+ Added Rex and Pyra. Totally should have been in Ultimate.

Duck Hunt: :ultduckhunt:.

Street Fighter: :ultryu: (:ultken:).

Final Fantasy: :ultcloud:.

Bayonetta: :ultbayonetta: [:ultbayonetta1:].

Splatoon: :ultinkling: [:ultinklingboy:],
[
].
+ Added Octolings. They're worth it.

Castlevania: :ultsimon: (:ultrichter:).

Persona:
.

Shantae:
.
+ Added Shantae. In terms of Indies, Shantae is one of the first that comes to mind. The other is...

Shovel Knight:
.
+ Added Shovel Knight. He's the King of the Indies.

Startropics:
.
+ Added Mike Jones. #FreeStartropics.

Ninja Gaiden:

+ Added Ryu Hayabusa. He's probably gonna be DLC.

Dragon Quest:
.
+ Added Erdrick. Brave, anyone?

Rhythm Heaven:
.
+ Added Chorus Kids. My personal favorites. Besides, Rhythm Heaven has been due for a rep for a long long time. Also are Best Boys.

Golden Sun:
(Matthew).
+ Added Isaac. Absolutely should have been in Ultimate!
+ Added Matthew as an Echo.

Monster Hunter:
.
+ Added Monster Hunter. Probably was in Ultimate at some point.

ARMS:
(
).
+ Added Spring Man.
+ Added Ribbon Girl as an Echo.

Minecraft:
[
]
+ Added Steve. He's iconic.
+ Added Alex as a costume.

Starfy:
[Starly].
+ Added Starfy. He's my other personal favorite.
+ Added Starly as a Costume.

Crash Bandicoot:
(
).
+ Added Crash. A Playstation Rep? In my Smash Bros? It's more likely than you think.
+ Added Coco as an Echo.

Bomberman:
.
+ Added Bomberman.

Rayman:
.
+ Added Rayman. (I know he's huge. I'm sorry.)

Custom Robo:
.
+ Added Ray Mk III.

Kingdom Hearts:
.
+ Added Sora. This might be tricky. Between Disney and Square Enix, Licensing will be impossible. Get Ready for 2 songs!

Tekken:
.
+ Added Heihachi. Another Fighting Game Rep, for Good Measure. The only other deserving one is...

Mortal Kombat:
(Scorpion).
+ Added Sub-Zero. With that, the fighting game trilogy is complete! Street Fighter, Tekken, and Mortal Kombat.
+ Added Scorpion as an Echo. The other original Echo Fighter.

Nintendo Labo:
.
+ Added Labo Man. Nothing like the Joke Character, eh?

And Finally....
Banjo-Kazooie:
.
+ Added Banjo & Kazooie. A fan favorite.

And there you have it! My Perfect Roster! And the total characters are... 102, I think! Just a little bit over. Oh well.
 

Manonymous

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#67
I'd also like to see Captain Toad in Smash, but the limit in the first post was ten characters per franchise, and while Geno's owned by Square-Enix, I can't see him as anything but a Mario character. If the limit (either for the number of characters per franchise or the roster) was larger, Captain Toad would definitely be in there. While I've played Luigi's Mansion, I don't recall King Boo having much to go on for Smash, and I haven't played Luigi's Mansion 2.

When it comes to Smash newcomers, I generally prefer to see characters that I could easily see in a fighting game - Wii Fit Trainer was a controversial pick for me for a while because of that. I've never played Style Savvy or Art Academy, so I have no idea how characters from those games could possibly work, and I can't picture them being in Smash. (besides, I was concerned that I went overboard with new Nintendo franchises as it is, and I probably could have added an Advance Wars, Last Story, Codename S.T.E.A.M., and/or Custom Robo character)

Impa and Midna were close behind Skull Kid in terms of a new Zelda character, but I could only fit one of them, and Skull Kid's popularity seemed more consistent over the years. I'd gladly add all three of them, though - Hyrule Warriors made it pretty clear that there's a lot of material to work with for a new Zelda character (material that the Smash developers have been ignoring so far), and any of them would be fun. (and a nice change of pace from variations on Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf)

For Pikmin, maybe I could have upgraded Alph into an echo fighter - just give him Rock Pikmin instead of Purple Pikmin, Winged Pikmin (which make whatever they grab lighter) instead of White Pikmin, and he's already more of a unique character than Dark Pit or Daisy. However, if I was to go with a unique character, there wouldn't be many options - maybe Plasm Wraith, if you accept the fan theory that it's also the Waterwraith from Pikmin 2.

As for third party characters, I figure that Nintendo couldn't have gotten as far as it has without the help of third party developers - the relative failure of the Wii U, and the sheer amount of content droughts once most third party developers abandoned that console, was a sign of that. I could probably cut some of the new ones if I was trying to be realistic (Dante, Banjo, Travis Touchdown), but those are the characters that I'd be excited to see.
That's pretty well explained. I understand what you made those choice. But personally, and Sakurai said it in a interview (I think ...), I think that what's cool about Smash Bros is to make characters that shouldn't be in a fighting game in a fighting game. It's cool to see Mario in a fighting game, because he doesn't fight like in those games in his games. It's more fun to see characters from games that aren't supposed to be a base for a fighting game character being in a fighting game. That's why I think Villager and WFT are one of the best additions ever made. We need more absurd characters, because that's what make Smash Bros different. And also, I played Style Savvy and I liked it, so I would totally play as a cute stylist girl. Just to beat the king of evil himself and a spatial mass killer pterodactyl with this girl. Or with Vince.
 

MagnoliaMidna

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#68
If I could choose to add more characters to my roster, there would be... so, so many.
That's a hard part about making these, because while you can do them for fun and just load up on your favorites, it's also important to try and be realistic and think about how much characters a future Smash game could handle. It's also kind of nice to think about how Sakurai does this. Years ago I was upset Midna never got in, because she seemed so obvious to me and INCREDIBLY unique. But he's also go to focus on other characters that are relevant to the time, veteran series that don't have as many fighters as Mario, Zelda, etc, and pick unique fighters that will really make an impact on Smash like the Wii Fit Trainer.

Just for the heck of it though, I'm gonna list other characters either I really want in the game but didn't list, or just think they'd be cool even though I'm not personally a fan of them

Mario: Pauline (might count as Donkey Kong though), Nabbit, Professor E Gadd
Yoshi: Poochy
Zelda: Lana, Vaati, Fi, Tingle
Metroid: Sylux
Kid Icarus: Viridi, Phosphora, Pandora
Kirby: Marx, Prince Fluff, Susie,
Animal Crossing: KK Slider, Rover
Splatoon: Pearl, Marina
Retro: Excitebiker, Mach Rider,
Pokemon: Eevee, Meowth
Earthbound: Giygas
Fire Emblem: Ephraim, Eir, Celica and Alm, Tiki
ARMS: Mei, Helix
Rhythm Heaven: Chorus Kids
Style Savvy: Stylist
Xenoblade: Rex and Pyra
The Last Story: Calista
Mega Man: Proto Man, Roll
Sonic: Shadow, Knuckles, Amy
Street Fighter: Cammy, Blanka
Castlevania: Dracula, Maria, Trevor
Bayonetta: Jeanne
Final Fantasy: Zack, Squall, Lightning
Resident Evil: Wesker, Claire, Rebecca and Billy
Kingdom Hearts: Roxas
Tekken: Heihachi
Soul Calibur: not too familiar with the series so one of the main characters
Devil May Cry: Dante
Okami: Amaterasu
Dragon Quest: Erdrick
Monster Hunter: Monster Hunter, Felyne
Cuphead: Cuphead (with Mugman alt)
Bravely Default: Agnes
Chrono Trigger: Crono
Octopath Traveler: Ophelia
Ninja Gaiden: Ryu
No More Heroes: Travis Touchdown
Puyo Puyo: Arle Nadja

I also want to note while there are characters I don't really like, like Crash Bandicoot, if he ever got into Smash I wouldn't be upset about it, because knowing a lot of people who want him in finally get him - that makes me happy. So I'm sorry if I didn't list a character you like, purely because I don't like them much, forgot, or just didn't consider them as a fighter before
 

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#69
Okay, so I decided to do a 100 character roster based on the rule that no series can go above ten characters. I tried not to cut too many, and the only situations where I cut characters were:

- If a series would go over 10 characters with my additions (obviously)
- If a character is already present in a meaningful way elsewhere on the roster (meaning no dual-identity characters, minus one or two exceptions depending on how strict your definition is)

In addition to this, I also had a self-imposed limitation: only ten third parties total. This was to help make sure I didn't go overboard on third party additions (which I may very well have if I didn't set this limit lol).

Also I went full bias with it. No shame, no regrets, characters that probably shouldn't be there are here. Boohoo. :p
Time to start the breakdown. Let's-a go.

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Super Mario Bros.

The only cut I made to this series was Dr. Mario. Dr. Mario is, at the end of the day, still Mario, and Mario is already on the roster, and I wanted to add two new Mario characters, soooo...he was the easiest cut. In his stead, we have Waluigi, who I feel is the next most important addition. As well, I added Captain Toad, another very important Mario character.

Honorable mentions go out to King Boo and E. Gadd, mostly for their contributions to Luigi's Mansion, as well as Birdo, who could in theory work as a Yoshi echo, with a regular grab animation and a Neutral Special based on K. Rool's, where she shoots out an egg and sucks the foe into her face hole before launching them.

Donkey Kong Country

DK, Diddy, and K. Rool are kept, and we get Dixie to round it off at four. Cranky and Funky were considered as well, but space limitations kicked in.

Yoshi's Island and WarioWare
No additions or cuts here. Shy Guy would have been added had I had more space, but alas.

Ice Climber, Game and Watch, Gyromite, and Duck Hunt
No changes. Neat.

The Legend of Zelda
Link is a weird case in my "no dual identities" thing because technically they're different people each time. I felt Toon Link was both stylistically and mechanically different enough to warrant being kept, but I cut Young Link because I didn't want to stretch my definition too far, and both Link and Young Link are still "realistic" Links. Sheik is kept because she's not the same Zelda as the Zelda that's Zelda in the Zelda series. Zelda. Daruk is added as a newcomer because Gorons are awesome and stylistically different, and are a big part of the 3D Zelda games.

Kid Icarus
I think the three we have are fine. Pit and Palutena are mandatory and Dark Pit plays a major role in Uprising. Viridi's a genocidal jerk so she doesn't get to join. At least K. Rool only attempted genocide. It totally has nothing to do with her badmouthing Chrom, Lucas, and Mewtwo. Nope.

Wii Fit
I wasn't gonna add the Balance Board, dammit. But the Trainer can stay. No harm no foul.

Metroid
Zero Suit Samus got cut for being the same person because that annoys me and I'm petty. Also what the hell suitless Samus shouldn't be stronger than suited Samus. I added Anthony Higgs since he's got some cool weapons and the Galactic Federation is a fairly important part of the series. Also he was the best part of Other M.

Kirby
The main trio are kept. Magolor is added because I loved Return to Dreamland and he's a good magic egg.

EarthBound
No changes. Just Ness and Lucas.

Fire Emblem
Lol I put in ten. I had to cut Corrin because I wanted three more of my favorites+Edelgard since she looks neat from the three seconds of footage we saw of her. Sorry, Corrin, but a sword and dragon powers aren't as cool as axes, magic, and swords. Plus she dresses better. Caeda's a Pegasus Knight so that's neat. She's a wonderful character too. Easily my sixth favorite character in the franchise. Celica would, alongside Chrom and Marth, mean that all three of my favorite lords are playable and that's wonderful. Merric is a good boy who uses wind magic. Merric is great. Chrom is more decloned and Lucina becomes a Chrom echo instead of a Marth echo to better represent canon. Good stuff. I almost tossed in Silque and Virion just because I love them as well, but I stopped myself. I could've easily made a fifty character Fire Emblem roster featuring other Nintendo series, but I didn't.

Star Fox
Slippy's part of the OG Crew, plus he has Guard to draw inspiration from. Blue Marine Final Smash. No cuts either.

Punch-Out!!
Little Mac comes Little Back, and he brings a friend. Glass Joe is the game's biggest joke character. You know how strong Mac is in the air? Joe's the same way...except he's like that on the ground too. Poor Glass Joe...but that's why we love him. At least he tries.

Mach Rider
Hell yeah Mach Rider. Bike based moveset with guns and stuff, as well as exploding oil barrels and a gear shift gimmick that shifts speed and handling.

Mole Mania
Mole Mania is a gift, and Muddy here is the main attraction. Hailing from Miyamoto's hidden gem on the Game Boy, Muddy can dig into the stage to increase mobility and toss around an iron ball to control the stage.

F-Zero
Samurai Goroh is the best in the galaxy, being the first katana wielder on the roster. Falcon is back too.

Pokémon
This was a tough one. The series had ten characters already, and I wanted to add at least two, so I had to make some cuts. I added Decidueye and Chandelure, two of my favorite potential choices. Sadly, Squirtle and Charizard were cut to make room for them. However, Ivysaur is still joined by Pokémon Trainer in the background, so not all is lost. Bulbasaur was always the best Kanto starter anyway. Ivysaur gets a new down special that rotates between Sleep Powder, Poison Powder, and Stun Spore, each with a different status effect attached.

Animal Crossing
Villager and Isabelle are still here because I have a brain lol. Animal Crossing is huge. Tom Nook also shows up, making three characters for the series. I almost added Blathers too. Sadly, I figured one owl was enough, so Blathers will have to sit this one out instead of reanimating dinosaur fossils to fight and attacking with sharks like Aquaman. Isabelle and Nook have their voices this time.

Pikmin
Alph is added as an echo and he uses Rock Pikmin. Justice for Alph. Olimar, of course, stays, but he's voiced this time.

Rhythm Heaven
Chorus Kids AND Karate Joe. Rhythm Heaven should have had a character by now, so I added two to compensate for the wait.

The Legendary Starfy
I love me some Starfy. Gluglug Lagoon is his stage. He's got transformation powers and a variety of spinning maneuvers.

Xenoblade Chronicles
I kept Shulk and added Elma. Almost added Addam and Mythra but I ran out of room.

Art Academy
Vince didn't use to be here. Instead Adeleine was added as a fifth Kirby character. But then I saw Vince's Assist and fell in love with his design. Look at this wholesome grandpa dude go. Paint your heart out, Vince.

Dillon's Rolling Western
Dillon has a great character design and comes from an unrepresented genre, tower defense. Plus western flair. And he's an armadillo, come on.

Code Name: S.T.E.A.M.
Henry Fleming is a great character who would use steam based weaponry like his Eagle Rifle. His game is an underrated gem and one of my favorite 3DS games.

Splatoon
Inkling stays, and two newcomers are added: a Callie and Marie tagteam, and DJ Octavio. Fan favorite duo, and the main antagonist. Off the Hook take the Squid Sisters' place as an Assist.

ARMS
Boi-oi-oing. Spring Man enters as the first ARMS character. I know some folks find him bland, but I love toothpaste boy. Helix, Ribbon Girl, Twintelle, Dr. Coyle, Max Brass, and Min Min were all considered, but space limitations kicked in.

Mii
No cuts, no additions. Sorry, Mii Stockbroker.

Third Parties
Due to my own self imposed limit of ten, I needed to cut the two echoes, Ken and Richter. I also needed to cut Bayonetta for the same reasons: space issues. In their place are Crash and Lara Croft, gaming icons of the highest caliber. Honorable mentions to the three cuts, Steve, Ezio, Tracer, Frogger, Maxwell, Alucard, Chun-Li, Jill Valentine, Dragonborn, Master Chief, Chell, and many more, who were all considered.




Aaaaaand that's all 100.
 

JaiTheGuy

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#70
Mario: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Rosa, Rabbids, Bowser, Bowser Jr, Captain Toad, Pauline, Plant
Donkey Kong: DK, Diddy, K. Rool, Dixie, Cranky
Zelda: Link, Young Link, Toon Link, Ganondorf, Zelda, Sheik, Impa, Skull Kid, Tingle
Metroid: Samus, Ridley, Zero Suit, Dark Samus, Sylux
Yoshi: Yoshi, Kamek
Kirby: Kirby, Meta Knight, Dedede(That's a name you should know), Hat Goomba, Marx, Susie
Pokemon: (Same)
Star Fox: Fox, Falco, Wolf, Krystal
F ZERO: Falcon
Earthbound: Ness, Lucas
Fire Emblem: Marth, Lucina, Chrom, Robin, Ike
Kid Icarus: Pit, Palutena, Dark Pit, Viridi, Hades
Wario: Wario, Ashley, Captain Syrup
Metal Gear: Snake
Sonic: Sonic, Shadow, Tails, Eggman
Pikmin: Olimar, Alph
Animal Crossing: Villager, Isabelle
Mega Man: Mega Man, Zero
Punch Out: Mac
Wii Fit: Wii Fit
Xenoblade: Shulk, Rex/Pyra
Pac-Man: Pac Man
Bayonetta: Bayo, Rodin
Street Fighter: Ryu, Ken, Akuma
FF: Cloud
Classics: Ice Climbers, R.O.B, Game and Watch, Doc, Mach Rider, Duck Hunt
Splatoon: Inklings
Castlevania: Simon, The Cooler Simon
Persona: Joker
Newbies: Rayman, Crash Bandicoot, Shovel Knight, Shantae, Banjo, Chibi Robo, Daemon X Machina, Cooking Mama, Rhythm Heaven, Fortnite, Issac
 
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Table Cat

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#71
Cut:

Dr.Mario (at least make him an alt costume)
Young Link and Toon Link (for obvious reasons)
Jigglypuff (i dont' hate the puff.. but i think she's out of place in Smash..)
Pichu (for obvious reasons)
Pokémon Trainer (always hated his mechanic)
Greninja (gen 6 doesn't deserve any rapresentation, plus he's goddamn ugly)
Incineroar (same as Greninja)
Mii Fighters (probably the stupidest thing they've ever done)
Isabelle (i do not even have to explain the reason)
ALL THE ECHOES (they're a pretext for adding more useless clones instead of original new characters)

Add:

Kamek (always loved him, plus he's an iconic Mario's villain)
Cranky Kong (always found him hilarious, plus would be nice to see an elder character in the game)
Skull Kid (Majora's Mask is my favourite Zelda game and i like his design)
Slippy Toad (always found him hilarious and cute, would be a pretty good joke character)
Blaziken (he deserved to be in Smash since Brawl, it's a shame that they skipped gen 3 but have represented gen 6-7 which suck)
Zoroark (same as Blaziken, gen 5 is good and Zoroark would have been its rep)
Black Shadow (we have Robin, we have Joker, so where's Batman? Jokes aside, he's cool and F-Zero deserve another rep imho)
Dr.Eggman (the only Sonic's character that doesn't suck, one of the most iconic game's villains of all the time, he deserve to be in)
M.Bison (same as Eggman, one of the most iconic villains, he would have been way better than Ken)
Lara Croft (along with Sora, the only SquareEnix's character that i would tolerate, plus i like Tomb Raider)
Rayman, Crash, Spyro and Banjo (all dream characters, they all deserve to be in the game)

That's all, there are some other character that i would cut and add but these are the main ones.
 

Manonymous

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#72
Cut:

Dr.Mario (at least make him an alt costume)
Young Link and Toon Link (for obvious reasons)
Jigglypuff (i dont' hate the puff.. but i think she's out of place in Smash..)
Pichu (for obvious reasons)
Pokémon Trainer (always hated his mechanic)
Greninja (gen 6 doesn't deserve any rapresentation, plus he's goddamn ugly)
Incineroar (same as Greninja)
Mii Fighters (probably the stupidest thing they've ever done)
Isabelle (i do not even have to explain the reason)
ALL THE ECHOES (they're a pretext for adding more useless clones instead of original new characters)

Add:

Kamek (always loved him, plus he's an iconic Mario's villain)
Cranky Kong (always found him hilarious, plus would be nice to see an elder character in the game)
Skull Kid (Majora's Mask is my favourite Zelda game and i like his design)
Slippy Toad (always found him hilarious and cute, would be a pretty good joke character)
Blaziken (he deserved to be in Smash since Brawl, it's a shame that they skipped gen 3 but have represented gen 6-7 which suck)
Zoroark (same as Blaziken, gen 5 is good and Zoroark would have been its rep)
Black Shadow (we have Robin, we have Joker, so where's Batman? Jokes aside, he's cool and F-Zero deserve another rep imho)
Dr.Eggman (the only Sonic's character that doesn't suck, one of the most iconic game's villains of all the time, he deserve to be in)
M.Bison (same as Eggman, one of the most iconic villains, he would have been way better than Ken)
Lara Croft (along with Sora, the only SquareEnix's character that i would tolerate, plus i like Tomb Raider)
Rayman, Crash, Spyro and Banjo (all dream characters, they all deserve to be in the game)

That's all, there are some other character that i would cut and add but these are the main ones.
I really don't agree with Pichu, Toon Link, Greninja and Inceneroar. HOWEVER, I love your Zoroark pick ! I thought I was the only one who wanted Zoroark (is it egocentric ?) !
 

RetrogamerMax

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#73
Here's what the perfect roster would look like:

Mario series: :ultmario:, :ultluigi:, :ultpeach:, :ultbowser:, :ultrosalina:, :ultbowserjr:, :ultdaisy:, Toad, Waluigi, Geno.

Zelda series: :ultlink:, :ultzelda:, :ultsheik:, :ultganondorf:, Pig Ganon, Impa, Skull Kid.

Pokemon series: :ultpikachu:, :ultjigglypuff:, :ultmewtwo:, :ultpokemontrainer:, :ultlucario:, Deoxys, Ghost Type Pokemon, Rock Type Pokemon.

DK series: :ultdk:, :ultdiddy:, :ultkrool:, Dixie Kong, Cranky Kong, Funky Kong, Lanky Kong, Tiny Kong, Chunky Kong.

Metroid series: :ultsamus:, :ultridley:, :ultdarksamus:, Sylux.

Star Fox series: :ultfox:, :ultfalco:, :ultwolf:, Krystal, Slippy, Peppy.

Kirby series: :ultkirby:, :ultkingdedede:, :ultmetaknight:, Bandana Dee, Marx, Magolor, Andeline.

Yoshi series: :ultyoshi:, Kamek, Baby Bowser.

Mother series: :ultness:, :ultlucas:, Porky, Ninten, Giygas, Masked Man.

F-Zero series: :ultfalcon:, Black Shadow, Samurai Goroh, Blood Falcon.

Fire Emblem series: :ultmarth:, :ultroy:, :ultike:, :ultrobin:, :ultlucina:, :ultcorrin:, :ultchrom:, Lyn, Black Knight.

Metal Gear series: :ultsnake:, Big Boss.

Sonic series: :ultsonic:, Tails, Knuckles, Dr. Eggman, Amy, Metal Sonic, Shadow.

Pikmin series: :ultolimar:.

Kid Icarus series: :ultpit:, :ultpalutena:, :ultdarkpit:, Medusa, Viridi, Hades.

Mega Man series: :ultmegaman:, Mega Man X, Zero, Proto Man, Bass, Dr. Wily, Sigma, Tron Bonne.

Pac-Man series: :ultpacman:, Ms. Pac-Man, Ghosts.

Street Fighter: :ultryu:, :ultken:, M. Bison, Akuma, Chun-Li.

Final Fantasy: :ultcloud:, Sephiroth, Black Mage.

Bayonetta series: :ultbayonetta:.

Animal Crossing series: :ultvillager:, :ultisabelle:, Tom Nook, K. K. Slider.

Punch Out series: :ultlittlemac:, Glass Joe, King Hippo, Soda Popinski.

Mii series: :ultbrawler:, :ultgunner:, :ultswordfighter:, wizard, wrestler.

Splatoon series: :ultinkling:, Octolings.

Castlevania series: :ultsimon:, :ultrichter:, Dracula.

Persona series: Joker.

Retro characters: :ulticeclimbers:, :ultgnw:, :ultrob:, :ultduckhunt:, Balloon Fighter, Excitebiker, Takamaru, Mach Rider, Lip, Ayumi Tachibana.

Characters of 3rd party franchises that are not in Smash yet:

Banjo & Kazooie

Crash Bandicoot

Spyro

Rayman

Lora Croft

Sora

Doomguy

Master Chief

Kratos

Ezio Auditore

Heihachi

Nightmare

Yoshimitsu

Contra guys

Arthur

Ryu Hayabusa

Phoenix Wright

Professer Layton

Goemon

Shantae

Shovel Knight
 
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BowserKing

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#74
I'll take the challenge

Row one: :ultmario::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultdaisy::ultbowser: Dark Bowser :ultrosalina::ultbowserjr::ultpiranha: and Fawful (:ultdoc: is an alternate costume)
Row two: :ultdk::ultdiddy: Dixie Kong :ultkrool::ultyoshi::ultwario::ultlink::ultzelda::ultyounglink: and :ultganondorf: (:ultsheik: is Zelda's transformation)
Row three: :ulttoonlink: Midna, :ultsamus::ultdarksamus::ultridley::ultkirby::ultmetaknight::ultkingdedede:, Bandanna Dee and Adeline (:ultzss: is Samus's transformation)
Row four: :ultpikachu::ultjigglypuff::ultpichu::ultmewtwo::ultpokemontrainer::ultlucario::ultgreninja::ultincineroar::249: and :ultinkling: (:ultsquirtle::ultivysaur: and :ultcharizard: are a part of Pokémon Trainers team and count as just one fighter)
Row five: :ultfox::ultfalco::ultwolf:, Krystal, :ultpit::ultdarkpit::ultpalutena:, Viridi, :ultgnw: and :ulticeclimbers:
Row six: :ultmarth::ultlucina::ultroy::ultchrom::ultike::ultrobinf::ultcorrinf::ultness::ultlucas:and :ultduckhunt:
Row seven: :ultfalcon:, Black Shadow, Bio-Rex, :ultrob::ultlittlemac::ultvillager::ultisabelle:, Tom Nook, :ultolimar: and Peckish Aristocrab
Row eight: :ultwiifittrainer::ultshulk:, Elma, Chorus Kids, Muddy Mole, Spring-Man, Ribbon Girl, :ultsonic:, Shadow and Knuckles
Row nine: :ultbayonetta:, Joker, :ultmegaman::ultryu::ultken:, Chun Li, Bomberman :ultsimon::ultrichter: and :ultsnake:
Row ten: :ultpacman::ultcloud:, Chocobo, Shantae, Ray-Man, Shovel Knight, Plague Knight, Steve, Bendy and Miis

This was a challenge, but I got it through
 

HeroicLegend

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#75
Super Smash Bros Dream Roster
Brackets mean Echo Fighters
Mario - 10
Mario(Doctor Mario), Luigi, Peach(Daisy), Bowser, Bowser Jr(Koopalings), Rosalina, Piranha Plant, Waluigi, Geno, Toad
Legend of Zelda - 9
Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, Impa, Tingle, Ghirahim, Vaati, Skull Kid, Midna
Pokemon - 9
Pikachu, Pokemon Trainer, Mewtwo, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario, Greninja, Incineroar, Zoroark, Jigglypuff
Donkey Kong - 4
Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Dixie Kong, King K Rool
Metroid - 4
Samus, Dark Samus, Ridley, Sylux
Yoshi - 2
Yoshi, Kamek
Kirby - 5
Kirby, King Dedede, Meta Knight, Bandana Dee, Marx
Star Fox - 4
Fox, Falco, Wolf, Krystal
Earthbound - 3
Ness, Lucas, Porky
F- Zero - 1
Captain Falcon(Black Shadow)
Ice Climbers - 1
Ice Climbers
Fire Emblem - 8
Marth(Roy), Ike(Black Knight), Lyn, Azura, Robin, Hector, Chrom(Lucina), Tiki
Game and Watch - 1
Mr Game and Watch
Kid Icarus - 5
Pit(Dark Pit), Palutena(Viridi), Hades, Magnus, Medusa
Warioware - 2
Wario, Ashley
Metal Gear Solid - 1
Snake
Sonic The Hedgehog - 1
Sonic(Shadow)
Pikmin - 1
Olimar
ROB - 1
ROB
Animal Crossing - 3
Villager, Isabelle, Tom Nook
Mega Man -1
Mega Man
Wii Fit - 1
Wii Fit Trainer
Punch Out - 1
Little Mac
Pacman - 1
Pacman(Mrs Pacman)
Xenoblade Chronicles -3
Shulk, Elma, Rex
Duck Hunt -1
Duck Hunt
Street Fighter - 1
Ryu(Ken)
Final Fantasy - 1
Cloud
Bayonetta - 1
Bayonetta
Splatoon - 1
Inkling(Octling)
Castlevania - 1
Simon(Richter)
Mii - 4
Mii Swordfighter, Mii Gunner, Mii Brawler, Mii Spellcaster
Golden Sun - 1
Isaac(Felix)
Tales - 1
Lloyd
Dragon Quest - 1
Erdrick

Banjo Kazooie -1
Banjo and Kazooie
Monster Hunter -1
Monster Hunter
Rayman - 1
Rayman
Shovel Knight- 1
Shovel Knight
Shantae - 1
Shantae
 

Poochy756

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#76
Here's the roster for my pretend 6th game: Super Smash Bros. Eternity (Fighters marked in Bold are new) I'm starting from Mario and all the way to 4th Party: (note: in the hypothetical Smash Reboot forum, my roster starts from 64 to Eternity so this is different, the E means echo)
Mario-7:
1-:ultmario:
2-:ultluigi:
3-:ultpeach:/E::ultdaisy:
4-:ultbowser:/E: Midbus
5-:ultbowserjr:(:ultlarry::ultmorton::ultwendy::ultiggy::ultroy2::ultlemmy::ultludwig: are Alts)
6-:ultpiranha:

7-Waluigi *Newcomer*
8-King Wart *Newcomer*
9-Chain Chomp *Newcomer*

Donkey Kong-6:
10-:ultdk:
11-:ultdiddy:
12-:ultkrool:
13-Cranky Kong *Newcomer*
14-Dixie Kong *Newcomer*
15-Rambi *Newcomer*
Legend of Zelda-3:
16-:ultlink:
17-:ultzelda:/E: Hilda
18-:ultganondorf: (CD-I design)
Metroid-5:
19-:ultsamus:
20-:ultridley:
21-:ultdarksamus:(Changed from Echo to Fighter)
22-Sylux *Newcomer*
23-Mother Brain *Newcomer*
Yoshi-2:
24-:ultyoshi:/E: Boshi
25-
Poochy *Newcomer*
26-Shy Guy *Newcomer*
Kirby-5:
27-:ultkirby:/E: Shadow Kirby
28-:ultkingdedede:/E: Shadow DDD
29-:ultmetaknight:/E: Galacta Knight
30-Bandana Dee *Newcomer*
31-Knuckle Joe *Newcomer* (Anime design)
Star Fox-5:
32-:ultfox:
33-:ultfalco:
34-:ultwolf:
35-Peppy *Newcomer*
36-Slippy *Newcomer*
Poke'mon-9:
37-:ultpikachu:/E: Raichu
38-:ultsquirtle:
39-:ultivysaur:
40-:ultcharizard:
41-:ultmewtwo:
42-:ultgreninja:
43-:ultincineroar:
44-Rayquaza *Newcomer*, Gen 3
45-Genesect *Newcomer*, Gen 5
Luigi's Mansion-1:
46-King Boo *Newcomer*
Earthbound-1:
47-:ultness:
F-Zero-1:
48-:ultfalcon:/E: Black Shadow

Fire
Emblem-4:
49-:ultmarth:
50-:ultike:
51-:ultrobin:
52-Byleath *Newcomer* (3 Houses)
Wario-3:
53-:ultwario:(New moveset to represent Land series)
54-Shake King *Newcomer*
55-Captain Syrup *Newcomer*
Kid Icarus-4:
56-:ultpit:
57-:ultpalutena:/Echo: Medusa
58-:ultdarkpit:(Redesigned Moveset)
59-Hades *Newcomer*
Pikmin-1:
60-:ultolimar:/E: Louie

61-Bulbord *Newcomer*
Animal Crossing-1:
62-:ultvillager:
63-:ultisabelle:
Xenoblade-1:
64-:ultshulk:
Splatoon-1:
65-:ultinkling:/E: Octolings
Retro-8:
66-:ulticeclimbers:
67-:ultgnw:
68-:ultrob:
69-:ultlittlemac:
70-:ultduckhunt:
71-Virtual Boy *Newcomer*
72-Excitebiker *Newcomer*
Sonic-2:
73-:ultsonic:/E: Mighty
74-Chaos 0 *Newcomer*

Metal Gear Solid-1:
75-:ultsnake:/E: Big Boss

Pac-Man-1:
76-:ultpacman:/E: Ms. Pacman
Mega Man-1:
77-:ultmegaman:/E: Bass
Street Fighter-1:
78-:ultryu:/E::ultken:
7-Chun-Li *Newcomer*
Bayonetta-1:
79-:ultbayonetta:/E: Jeanne
Castlevania-1:
80-:ultsimon:/E::ultrichter:
Persona-1:
81-:ultjoker:
Skylanders-1:
82-Camo *Newcomer*
Shiny Entertainment-1
83-Earthworm Jim *Newcomer*
Team Fortress-1:
84-Heavy *Newcomer*
B&K-1:
85-Banjo *Newcomer*

Spyro the Dragon-1:
86-Spyro *Newcomer*
Crash Bandicoot-1:
87-Crash Bandicoot *Newcomer*
Totally Accurate Battle Simulator-1:
88-Unit *Newcomer*
Mii Fighters-5:
:ultbrawler:
:ultswordfighter:
:ultgunner:

Wrecker *4th Mii Fighter* (wields a flail)
Slammer *5th Mii Fighter* (Wields a large hammer)
Upcoming DLC Fighters-4:
89-?
90-?
91-?
92-?
Smash Bros-1

93-Sandbag
4th Party (Loud House)-1:
94-Lincoln Loud/E: Leni Loud *Newcomer*
Cut Fighters-16::ultjigglypuff::ultdoc::ultsheik::ultyounglink::ultpichu::ultroy::ulttoonlink::ultzss::ultlucario::ultlucas::ultrosalina::ultcorrin::ultwiifittrainer::ultcloud::ultlucina::ultchrom:


And that's the roster for Eternity!
 
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UserKev

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#77
I would have Donkey Kong represented, DK, Diddy Kong, King K. Rool, Dixie Kong and Cranky Kong. Link, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Skull Kid, Ghirahim. Pokémon Trainer is a definite "Nah" I know Xenoblade is a loved franchise but I'm removing it entirely for my own personal reasons. Haha Cloud, Ryu, Joker and most third party representation has to go, sad to say. I need my strictly "Nintendo" Smash. Punch Out, Little Mac, Doc Louis.
 

Gamer Cube

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#78
The roster could be good if the following were removed.

:ultbayonetta::ultbowserjr::ultcloud::ultcorrin::ultdoc::ultgreninja::ultisabelle::ultjigglypuff::ultlittlemac::ultlucario::ultlucina::ultmiifighters::ultolimar::ultdaisy::ultpichu::ultrob::ultrosalina::ultroy::ultchrom::ultsonic::ulttoonlink::ultvillager::ultyoshi::ultyounglink:
Dude, srsly? That's like half of my good characters. And you removed all of the reps from 5 of the games (not including Mii)! I'm not saying some of those don't need to exist, (Since 3.0 Peach and Daisy are the exact same, they could just be outfits) but you removed Jigglypuff? She's one of the OGs! And I play with 4 of those characters.
 

Table Cat

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#79
Cut Characters::ultlucas::ultjigglypuff::ultcorrin::ultwiifittrainer::ultpichu::ulttoonlink::ultyounglink::ultroy::ultrosalina::ultcloud::ultsnake::ultzss::ultsheik::ultdoc::ultlucario::ultisabelle:(Check the hypothetical Smash reboot forum)
Dude, no offense but this is gross.
Especially the characters you want to add instead, most of them are senseless (Joltik lol) or pointless (Camilla is a literal fetish).
You cutted unique characters but you kept Dark Pit and all the echoes, also what's the point of making Chrom a skin but keeping Daisy which is a literal skin in the real game?

Dude, srsly? That's like half of my good characters. And you removed all of the reps from 5 of the games (not including Mii)! I'm not saying some of those don't need to exist, (Since 3.0 Peach and Daisy are the exact same, they could just be outfits) but you removed Jigglypuff? She's one of the OGs! And I play with 4 of those characters.
I seriously hope he's trolling.
 
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