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The Old Counter Game

Terywj [태리]

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Magnezone can't learn Ice Beam... -_-

Camerupt @ Leftovers
Timid/Solid Rock
252 Sp Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
~Earth Power
~Flamethrower
~HP {Grass}
~Explosion
Immune to Discharge, takes neutral damage from HP Grass. Plows through w/Flamethrower or Earth Power.
 

MysticKenji

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Kenji used Recover...

Magnezone can't learn Ice Beam... -_-

Camerupt @ Leftovers
Timid/Solid Rock
252 Sp Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
~Earth Power
~Flamethrower
~HP {Grass}
~Explosion
Immune to Discharge, takes neutral damage from HP Grass. Plows through w/Flamethrower or Earth Power.
Drifblim @ Leftovers
(+Sp.Def -Attack)/Aftermath
252Sp.Defense/252HP/4Sp.Attack
Charge Beam
Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Shadow Ball
 

Kips

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Drifblim @ Leftovers
(+Sp.Def -Attack)/Aftermath
252Sp.Defense/252HP/4Sp.Attack
Charge Beam
Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Shadow Ball
Cacturne @ Lum Berry
(+Attack -Speed)/Sand Veil
252 Attack/252 HP/4 Sp.Defense
Payback
Seed Bomb (By Breeding)
Brick Break
Return

Resists Charge Beam and Shadow Ball via types and absorbs the hit with HP, Lum Berries out of your Hypnosis and OHKO's you with Payback. Rest is filler to fight off other pokemon.
 

Terywj [태리]

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Merry Christmas!!

Froslass @ Colbur Berry
Modest/Snow Cloak
252 Sp Atk/252 Spd/6 Def
~Ice Beam
~Water Pulse
~Thunderbolt
~HP {Ground}
I believe this OHKO's you with Ice Beam. If not, then it should survive a Payback and hit you with another Ice Beam.
 

mood4food77

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i don't think it'll survive on a switch into a payback, then another payback

it's not safe
 

chaos 9

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infernape@focus sash
24 atk 232 spd 252 sp. atk
naive
flamethrower
nasty plot
grass knot
close combat

ohko with flamethrower
 

Kips

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Altaria @ Wide Lens
252 Attack/100 Defense/152 Special Defense/4HP
Calm Nature
Aerial Ace
Haze (Breeding)
Sing
Roost
Resists all of your moves fairly well, can Haze away your NP's then restore health and 2HKO you with Aerial Ace.
 

9Kplus1

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Altaria @ Wide Lens
252 Attack/100 Defense/152 Special Defense/4HP
Calm Nature
Aerial Ace
Haze (Breeding)
Sing
Roost
Resists all of your moves fairly well, can Haze away your NP's then restore health and 2HKO you with Aerial Ace.
Don't you mean Careful Nature?

Empoleon @Chople Berry
Bold Nature
EVs:252hp/20spattk/100def/136spdef

Surf
Yawn
Ice Beam
Grass Knot
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Don't you mean Careful Nature?

Empoleon @Chople Berry
Bold Nature
EVs:252hp/20spattk/100def/136spdef

Surf
Yawn
Ice Beam
Grass Knot
Hypno @ Leftovers
Insomnia
Bold
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpDef
- Calm Mind
- Wish
- Seismic Toss
- Psychic

Insomnia prevents Yawn from working. I can take your special hits and Calm Mind up, then hit you with STAB boosted Psychics while occasionally laughing as your Special Defense drops from my psychokinetic p0w3rz.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

Terywj [태리]

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Hypno @ Leftovers
Insomnia
Bold
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpDef
- Calm Mind
- Wish
- Seismic Toss
- Psychic

Insomnia prevents Yawn from working. I can take your special hits and Calm Mind up, then hit you with STAB boosted Psychics while occasionally laughing as your Special Defense drops from my psychokinetic p0w3rz.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Timid/Pressure
252 HP/252 Spd/6 Sp Atk
~Snatch
~Dark Pulse
~Shadow Ball
~Will-o-wisp
Nothing you do hurts me. I'll snatch a couple of your Calm Minds and Dark Pulse you to death.
 

MysticKenji

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Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Timid/Pressure
252 HP/252 Spd/6 Sp Atk
~Snatch
~Dark Pulse
~Shadow Ball
~Will-o-wisp
Nothing you do hurts me. I'll snatch a couple of your Calm Minds and Dark Pulse you to death.
Spiritomb @ Lum Berry
(+Sp.Def -Attk)/Pressure
252 HP/252 Sp. Def/4 Sp. Attack
-Taunt
-Curse
-Ominous Wind
-Dark Pulse
 

The9litch

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Spiritomb @ Lum Berry
(+Sp.Def -Attk)/Pressure
252 HP/252 Sp. Def/4 Sp. Attack
-Taunt
-Curse
-Ominous Wind
-Dark Pulse
I would post a counter, but the one I have in mind is A taunt DD TTar that technically destroys him but I \/\/hore him too much...carry on.
 

mood4food77

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why is that spiritomb carrying curse...

Blissey@leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold
252/252/6 (HP/DEF/SP.DEF)
Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Softboiled


comes in, immune to OW, takes like nothing from DP, deals damage through BoltBeam
 

Terywj [태리]

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I'm unsure...

Quagsire @ Leftovers
Jolly/Water Absorb
252 Spd/192 HP/66 Atk
~Encore
~Earthquake
~Focus Punch
~Waterfall
Encores your Calm Mind or Thunderbolt. Wrecks you with Focus Punch.
 

MysticKenji

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I'm unsure...

Quagsire @ Leftovers
Jolly/Water Absorb
252 Spd/192 HP/66 Atk
~Encore
~Earthquake
~Focus Punch
~Waterfall
Encores your Calm Mind or Thunderbolt. Wrecks you with Focus Punch.
Gyarados @ Leftovers
Modest/Intimidate
252 Sp. Attack/156 Defense/100 Speed
-Flamethrower
-HP Grass
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt

Owns you. Completely.
 

mood4food77

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no surf...

let's see

Aggron@Choice band
Adamant
252/252/6 (HP/SP.DEF/ATK)
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Focus Punch
Iron Tail

comes in, takes hits off your abysmal special stat, OHKOs with stone edge
 

TombStone

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no surf...

let's see

Aggron@Choice band
Adamant
252/252/6 (HP/SP.DEF/ATK)
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Focus Punch
Iron Tail

comes in, takes hits off your abysmal special stat, OHKOs with stone edge
Aggron looks so badass, too bad his type sucks so much....

Claydol @ Leftovers
Levitate
Bold (-Atk, +Def)
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpAtk
-Earth Power
-Ancient Power
-Light Screen
-Ice Beam

Immune to EQ, resists Stone Edge and Focus Punch. Max defense should allow it to take an Iron Tail before it Earth Powers Aggron into the ground.
 

Kips

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Mismagius @ Leftovers
Levitate
Modest Nature
252 Spc.Attack/152 HP/100 Spd
-Energy Ball
-Shadow Ball
-Psychic
-Destiny Bond

Immune to Earth Power, takes neutral from Ancient and Ice Beam which it can take unfazed thanks to its good natural Spc Defense. Wipes you out with Energy Ball or Shadow Ball.
 

MysticKenji

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Mismagius @ Leftovers
Levitate
Modest Nature
252 Spc.Attack/152 HP/100 Spd
-Energy Ball
-Shadow Ball
-Psychic
-Destiny Bond

Immune to Earth Power, takes neutral from Ancient and Ice Beam which it can take unfazed thanks to its good natural Spc Defense. Wipes you out with Energy Ball or Shadow Ball.
Honchkrow @ Leftovers
(+Sp. Def -Attack)/Insomnia
252 HP/252 Sp. Def/4 Sp. Attack
-Taunt
-Dark Pulse
-Nasty Plot
-HP [Fight]
 

Kips

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Torterra @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
252 Defense/100 HP/152 Attack/4 Spc. Defense
-Earthquake
-Wood Hammer
-Crunch
-Synthesis
Immune to Thunderpunch, resists Earthquake and Rock, takes Neutral from Fire Punch. Can heal itself from your FPunch and then wipe you out with Earthquake.
 

mood4food77

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it's actually weak to fire punch

ground doesn't resist fire, rock does

it may still work though cause of it's high defense
 

Kips

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Torterra @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
252 Defense/100 HP/152 Attack/4 Spc. Defense
-Earthquake
-Wood Hammer
-Crunch
-Synthesis
Immune to Thunderpunch, resists Earthquake and Rock, takes Neutral from Fire Punch. Can heal itself from your FPunch and then wipe you out with Earthquake.
Changing this to...

Ludicolo @ Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
Ability: Rain Dish
252 HP/252 Defense/4 Spc.Defense
-Substitute
-Leech Seed
-Protect
-Rain Dance
Resists Earthquake, neutral to Thunderpunch, Fire Punch and Rock Slide. Puts down a Leech Seed, Subs up and then Rain Dance into Protect to drain you dry.
 

9Kplus1

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Honchkrow @Leftovers
Mild Nature
EVs:160attk/40spattk/200hp/52spd/56def

Calm Mind
Dark Pulse
Drill Peck
Taunt

While Ludicolo is Taunted, Krow stocks up on CMs, it can switch it on its moves nicely.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Honchkrow @Leftovers
Mild Nature
EVs:160attk/40spattk/200hp/52spd/56def

Calm Mind
Dark Pulse
Drill Peck
Taunt

While Ludicolo is Taunted, Krow stocks up on CMs, it can switch it on its moves nicely.
What's it's ability?

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Sand Stream
Adamant
evs: 6 Atk / 252 SpDef / 252 Spd
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Taunt
- Dragon Dance

Resists your attacks. Taunts so you can't CM and DDs, or KOs with SE.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

ss118

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What's it's ability?

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Sand Stream
Adamant
evs: 6 Atk / 252 SpDef / 252 Spd
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Taunt
- Dragon Dance

Resists your attacks. Taunts so you can't CM and DDs, or KOs with SE.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
Metagross @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 28 HP/252 Atk/44 Def/184 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Meteor Mash
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Psych Up
Switches in on anything your Tyranitar can throw, outspeeds and OHKO's with or without the boosts, which it can steal with Psych Up and (possibly) sweep.
 

chubb-o-wub

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Magnezone@Leftovers
Magnet Pull
EVs: 172 HP/ 252 Spatk/ 84 Spd
Modest
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-Substitute
-Explosion

Resists all of your attacks and shocks you.
 

ss118

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Your Pokemon:
Magnezone@Leftovers
Magnet Pull
EVs: 172 HP/ 252 Spatk/ 84 Spd
Modest
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-Substitute
-Explosion

Resists all of your attacks and shocks you.
My counter:
Magnezone@Leftovers
Magnet Pull
EVs: 168 HP/ 252 Spatk/ 88 Spd
Modest
-Thunderbolt
-HP Fire
-Substitute
-Explosion

Resists all of your attacks and puts you on fire.
 

Druggedfox

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Your Pokemon:


My counter:
Lol @ this. Hmmm, how about:

Steelix @ Occa Berry
Rock Head
Evs: 252 Special defense / 100 Atk / 156 Hp
Careful

-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Roar
-Explosion

This might not be the best counter, and I haven't run any calculations so I'm not positive of the ev's either, but I decided to try out a less used pokemon ^^. With the highest possible amount of sp def, and a good bit of hp evs combined with the occa berry it should be able to take the hp fire from magnezone. No other move really threatens it, and with the 100 atk evs, EQ should do decent damage (I will have 200 attack and EQ will end up with 600 base power) If all else fails I can always Roar him out. Btw this beats both magnezones XD. So yea, this is not the best counter in the world, but I wanted to use a UU/BL pokemon.
 

ss118

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Lol @ this. Hmmm, how about:

Steelix @ Occa Berry
Rock Head
Evs: 252 Special defense / 100 Atk / 156 Hp
Careful

-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Roar
-Explosion

This might not be the best counter, and I haven't run any calculations so I'm not positive of the ev's either, but I decided to try out a less used pokemon ^^. With the highest possible amount of sp def, and a good bit of hp evs combined with the occa berry it should be able to take the hp fire from magnezone. No other move really threatens it, and with the 100 atk evs, EQ should do decent damage (I will have 200 attack and EQ will end up with 600 base power) If all else fails I can always Roar him out. Btw this beats both magnezones XD. So yea, this is not the best counter in the world, but I wanted to use a UU/BL pokemon.
Gliscor @ Focus Sash
Sand Veil: Adamant
252 Attack, 256 w/e
Earthquake
Roost
Taunt
U-Turn
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Gliscor @ Focus Sash
Sand Veil: Adamant
252 Attack, 256 w/e
Earthquake
Roost
Taunt
U-Turn
name: Gyarados
item: Choice Band
ability: Intimidate
nature: Adamant
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Ice Fang
move 4: Stone Edge

Switches in, Intimidates you, resists U-Turn and isn't effected by Earthquake, and can Waterfall or Ice Fang you.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Edit: Good job at keeping this thread clean, guys. How about wii add something new to this stuff. How about wii had in Ubers?

The next poster posts a Pokemon that counters my Gyarados. Then, they also have the choice to post a counter for the Uber I will post. You don't have to post a counter to the Ubers. Just make sure that, if you do want to, to go back and look at the most recent Uber.

Let's start with this:

name: Kyogre
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Drizzle
nature: Modest
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
move 1: Water Spout
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunder
move 4: Surf

Let's see how this works out.
 
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