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The Old Counter Game

Terywj [태리]

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I'm assuming ice punch for your CB gross, but it doesn't matter since ur stuck on bullet punch

Claydol @ Leftovers
252 hp/204 def/54 sdef
Bold/Levitate
-Earth Power
-Rapid Spin
-Psychic
-Rest

0.5 damage from bullet punch, earth power ftw
Honchkrow @ Leftovers
252 HP/196 Def/60 Sp Atk
Timid/Super Luck
-Nasty Plot
-Night Slash
-Dark Pulse
-Shadow Ball
Hit by only Rapid Spin, and hits you w/Night Slash. When you rest I get a free Nasty Plot. Then proceed with Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball.
 

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I'm assuming ice punch for your CB gross, but it doesn't matter since ur stuck on bullet punch

Claydol @ Leftovers
252 hp/204 def/54 sdef
Bold/Levitate
-Earth Power
-Rapid Spin
-Psychic
-Rest

0.5 damage from bullet punch, earth power ftw
Blissey @Leftovers
Calm Nature
EVs:252hp/200spdef/44def/12spd

Seismic Toss
Toxic/Sing
Softboiled
Substitute

Toxic'll force Dol to Rest, Blissey sets up a Sub and Tosses your HP away. If you Rest again, the same thing'll happen. Sing can PREVENT Resting.

Umm... there's a niiiiiice amount of counters for this'un.
 

mood4food77

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Heracross@leftovers
Guts
Adamant
252/252/6 (ATK/SPD/HP)
Close Combat
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Earthquake

comes in on toxic, then ***** with close combat
 

Platypus

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I'm going to counter Heracross, then.

Masquerain w/ Charti Berry
Impish/Swarm
6 HP/ 252 Def. /252 Sp. Atk.
Hydro Pump
Silver Wind
Air Slash
Substitute

Hydro Pump is for Rock- and Fire-types, Silver Wind is to raise Sp. Atk while Substitute fends off Electric-types, and Air Slash is just for a final wound.
 

mood4food77

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i don't think that'll work

i think it'll still get ***** by hera, SE will do a lot of damage (or OHKO it), if not, then it'll just attack with megahorn to finish it off

don't know what charti berry does
 

MysticKenji

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I'm going to counter Heracross, then.

Masquerain w/ Charti Berry
Impish/Swarm
6 HP/ 252 Def. /252 Sp. Atk.
Hydro Pump
Silver Wind
Air Slash
Substitute

Hydro Pump is for Rock- and Fire-types, Silver Wind is to raise Sp. Atk while Substitute fends off Electric-types, and Air Slash is just for a final wound.
NOT A COUNTER

Heracross is still in play.
 

mood4food77

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i think we gotta damage calc a guts megahorn/close combat before we see that one

but it may work

he's just trying to keep the counters regulated
 

Terywj [태리]

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Blissey @Leftovers
Calm Nature
EVs:252hp/200spdef/44def/12spd

Seismic Toss
Toxic/Sing
Softboiled
Substitute

Toxic'll force Dol to Rest, Blissey sets up a Sub and Tosses your HP away. If you Rest again, the same thing'll happen. Sing can PREVENT Resting.

Umm... there's a niiiiiice amount of counters for this'un.
Heracross@leftovers
Guts
Adamant
252/252/6 (ATK/SPD/HP)
Close Combat
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Earthquake

comes in on toxic, then ***** with close combat
Weezing @Black Sludge
Bold Nature
EVs:252hp/200def/56spattk

Fire Blast/Flamethrower
Shadow Ball/HP Grass/T-Bolt
Haze
--Filler--/T-Bolt

Weezing **** is okay too...
READ THE RULES

Only one move per moveslot, otherwise we can't counter you.
I'm going to counter Heracross, then.

Masquerain w/ Charti Berry
Impish/Swarm
6 HP/ 252 Def. /252 Sp. Atk.
Hydro Pump
Silver Wind
Air Slash
Substitute

Hydro Pump is for Rock- and Fire-types, Silver Wind is to raise Sp. Atk while Substitute fends off Electric-types, and Air Slash is just for a final wound.
i don't think that'll work

i think it'll still get ***** by hera, SE will do a lot of damage (or OHKO it), if not, then it'll just attack with megahorn to finish it off

don't know what charti berry does
NOT A COUNTER

Heracross is still in play.
OMG...

Bronzong @Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
EVs:252hp/200def/24spattk/32attk

Gyro Ball
Hypnosis
Psychic
Calm Mind
i think we gotta damage calc a guts megahorn/close combat before we see that one

but it may work

he's just trying to keep the counters regulated

...but my Krow countered Claydol first...:(
*sighs* Whatever...
 

Terywj [태리]

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...oh well

blissey is much more satisfying to kill than honchcrow
Whatever...:(
Congrats on your 3400th post. :bigthumbu


OMG...

Bronzong @Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
EVs:252hp/200def/24spattk/32attk

Gyro Ball
Hypnosis
Psychic
Calm Mind
Heatran @ Leftovers
Timid/Flash Fire
252 Sp Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
~Flamethrower
~Earth Power
~HP [Grass]
~Dragon Pulse

...ILoveCelebi!! you didn't post Zong's nature... (Pfft. Like it matters...)
 

MysticKenji

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OMG...

Bronzong @Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
EVs:252hp/200def/24spattk/32attk

Gyro Ball
Hypnosis
Psychic
Calm Mind
...
Oh for God's sake.
Even this is 2HKO'd by Megahorn/CC.
I think mood4food has just ended this game.

...Or terywj could jump in front of me.
That works too.

Anyway, @Heatran
Moltres @ Wise Glasses
(+Sp.Def -Attk)/Pressure
116HP/252Sp.Def/84Sp.Attack/52Speed
Toxic
HP Ground
Heat Wave
Ancientpower
 

mood4food77

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if zong can't counter heracross, then i win

hehe


but just to be fair

i'll post a counter to heracross

Crobat@focus sash
Jolly
252/252/6 (ATK/SPD/HP)
Aerial Ace
Cross Poison
U-Turn
Return

comes in, takes hit from SE, OHKOs with aerial ace

just cause no one would counter it...
 

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Bleh. I am ashamed. By the way, Charti Berry reduces the damage done by SE Rock-type moves.

Countering Crobat...

Kingdra w/ Jaboca Berry (delivers damage to a foe doing damage with a physical attack)
Quirky/Sniper
252 Speed / 6 Def./ 252 Sp. Def.
+ Dragonbreath
+ Protect
+ Blizzard
+ Brine

The nature enhances the moves. Woo!
 

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Bleh. I am ashamed. By the way, Charti Berry reduces the damage done by SE Rock-type moves.

Countering Crobat...

Kingdra w/ Jaboca Berry (delivers damage to a foe doing damage with a physical attack)
Quirky/Sniper
252 Speed / 6 Def./ 252 Sp. Def.
+ Dragonbreath
+ Protect
+ Blizzard
+ Brine

The nature enhances the moves. Woo!
If you say so...

Empoleon @ Leftovers
(+Sp.Def -Attk)/Torrent
252 Sp. Def/252 HP/4 Sp. Attack
-HP Dragon
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Grass Knot
 

mood4food77

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Magnezone @ leftovers
Modest/Magnet Pull
252 sp. atk, 252 hp, 6 sp. def
Magnet Rise
Thunderbolt
HP Ice
Flash Cannon
Laturn@leftovers
Volt Absorb
Calm
16/252/236 (HP/SP.ATK/SP.DEF)
HP Fight
Surf
Aqua Ring
Thunderbolt

resists HP Ice and Flash Cannon, absorbs tbolt, hits back with HP fight, wuold be HP ground but it has magnet rise
 

Platypus

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Barboach w/ Apicot Berry (raises Sp. Def. in a pinch)
Hasty/Anticipation
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Sp Atk
~Double Team
~Earthquake
~Amnesia
~Icy Wind

Beats down Lucario with Earthquake, of course, and Double Teams away from anything threatening but Magical Leaf, which is detected by Anticipation and defended with Amnesia or Icy Wind.
 

mood4food77

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uhhhh

barboach is OHKO'd by lucario's EQ, cruch, or BB

he doesn't have the defense or the HP to survive

so taht counter is PHAILURE!!

even that lucario is a bit iffy on lanturn, cause lanturn can survive a choice banded drapion's EQ pretty darn well
 

mood4food77

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barboach is faster than lucario

no way is barboach faster


his lucario has 252 EVs in speed, max speed with the worst nature is still faster than a hasty barboach with 252 EVs in speed

lucario wins
 

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Magnezone < Lanturn, I dunno where Lucario comes in >.>...

As for Lanturn-

Regice @Chople Berry
Bold Nature
EVs:252hp/124def/120spdef/12spattk

HP Flying
Ice Beam
T-Wave
Seismic Toss

It takes special and physical hits, so, Hera switch ins can be hit with HP Flying. Seismic Tosses Lanturn seeing as its only recovery move is Aqua Ring which doesn't restore much HP ,it also has 16 EVs in hp, making it unable to hit 400, so, Seismic Toss is a 4-5KO.
 

mood4food77

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does it work, cause HP fight will do damage, seismoc toss is your only option since it absorbs twave, and takes very little from ice beam and HP flying

oh darn, i thought it had base 140 HP...not 125, man i'm off today
 

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Magnezone < Lanturn, I dunno where Lucario comes in >.>...

As for Lanturn-

Regice @Chople Berry
Bold Nature
EVs:252hp/124def/120spdef/12spattk

HP Flying
Ice Beam
T-Wave
Seismic Toss

It takes special and physical hits, so, Hera switch ins can be hit with HP Flying. Seismic Tosses Lanturn seeing as its only recovery move is Aqua Ring which doesn't restore much HP ,it also has 16 EVs in hp, making it unable to hit 400, so, Seismic Toss is a 4-5KO.
It works M4F.

Steelix @ Leftovers
(-Speed +Sp.Defense)/Rock Head
252Sp.Def/252HP/4Attack
-Iron Tail
-EQ
-Stone Edge
-Stealth Rock

Stealth Rock when you switch.
 

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It works M4F.

Steelix @ Leftovers
(-Speed +Sp.Defense)/Rock Head
252Sp.Def/252HP/4Attack
-Iron Tail
-EQ
-Stone Edge
-Stealth Rock

Stealth Rock when you switch.
You sure about that? Iron Tail has 75% acc, although it's a 150 STAB attack, Iron Tail doesn't seem like much of a killer to Regice. Plus... only 4 attack EVs are in, Iron Tail will most likely 3-4KO Regice and by that time, Regice would've already killed it with 2-3 Ice Beams.

But hey, WTH,

Swampert @Rindo Berry
Relaxed Nature
EVs:252hp/120def/68attk/68spattk

Mirror Coat
Counter
Hydro Pump
Stone Edge
 

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Heh... @ swampert

Torterra @ leftovers
Impish/overgrow
252 hp, 92 def, 166 sp. def
Curse
Synthesis
Wood Hammer
Earthquake

Resists stone edge and neutral to hydro pump. Even with rindo berry you're not surviving a cursed STAB'd wood hammer.
 

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Walrein w/ Rindo Berry
Naive/Ice Body
252 HP / 92 Def. / 166 Sp. Def.
+ Hail
+ Earthquake
+ Ice Beam
+ Encore

Encore the Curse and use Ice Beam for 4x hurting. Not likely that you'll kill with Wood Hammer, given that the Berry negates the super-effective effect. Super-effect.
 

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Walrein w/ Rindo Berry
Naive/Ice Body
252 HP / 92 Def. / 166 Sp. Def.
+ Hail
+ Earthquake
+ Ice Beam
+ Encore

Encore the Curse and use Ice Beam for 4x hurting. Not likely that you'll kill with Wood Hammer, given that the Berry negates the super-effective effect. Super-effect.
Naive?WTF? Okay, please, jus-just leave... not many def EVs or a +Def nature. Torterra can get a Curse in while you switch and while you're Encoring, Wood Hammer would've already hit. No spattk EVs either making it bait for this-

Mantine @Wacan Berry
Calm Nature
EVs:252hp/200def/40spdef/12spattk
Ability: Water Absorb

HP Flying
Hydro Pump
Mirror Coat
Ice Beam
 

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Naive?WTF? Okay, please, jus-just leave... not many def EVs or a +Def nature. Torterra can get a Curse in while you switch and while you're Encoring, Wood Hammer would've already hit. No spattk EVs either making it bait for this-

Mantine @Wacan Berry
Calm Nature
EVs:252hp/200def/40spdef/12spattk
Ability: Water Absorb

HP Flying
Hydro Pump
Counter/Mirror Coat
Ice Beam
Fix the bolded, then you can be countered.
 

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Naive?WTF? Okay, please, jus-just leave... not many def EVs or a +Def nature. Torterra can get a Curse in while you switch and while you're Encoring, Wood Hammer would've already hit. No spattk EVs either making it bait for this-

Mantine @Wacan Berry
Calm Nature
EVs:252hp/200def/40spdef/12spattk
Ability: Water Absorb

HP Flying
Hydro Pump
Mirror Coat
Ice Beam
Empoleon @ Leftovers
Adamant/Torrent
EVs: 252 SpDef / 252 HP / 4 Attack
EQ
Pluck
Rock Slide
Avalanche
--Resists all attacks, Mirror Coat is useless.
 

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Uuuuummm...

Shuckle @Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs:252hp/128def/128spdef

Wrap
Toxic
Swagger
Encore
↑↑↑↑Self-Explanitory

EDIT:
*Plays "Link getting Master Sword" music*

I just got......

MY 1000th POST!!
 

mood4food77

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ummmm

how will it kill empoleon

wrap is gonna do crap, swagger it until it dies?

it's immune ot toxic, encore a move that will eventually kill you

i don't see how it's a counter
 
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