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The Old Counter Game

Wii4Mii 99

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I checked, and it CAN be Traced, but not Swapped or Role Played.

Sorry ;)
Wait... Are wii still trying to counter the Wonder Guard Porygon2? If so, then I've got something...

Pinsir @ Choice Band
MOLD BREAKER
Adamant
252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 SpDef
- Close Combat
- X-Scissor
- Stone Edge
- Um... Hyper Beam? (lol)

MOLD BREAKER FTW. Now you can be hit by Close Combat. I also resist HP Fighting.


Heracross@ Choice scarf/ Choice band
Adamant/guts Evs: 252 attack, 252 speed, 6 hp.
Close combat
megahorn
stone edge
night slash

Destroys him with STAB fighting moves, resists HP fighting and can take shadow ball.
Instead repeating with Gliscor, I'll use:

Weezing @ Black Sludge
Levitate
Bold
252 / 252 Def / 6 SpAtk
- Fire Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

mood4food77

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WAIT!!!

SHEDDY CANNOT COUNTER FORRY!

forry sets up SR and shedinja dies

SO NO COUNTERS FOR SHEDINJA!
 

The9litch

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@sheddi

Tyranitar@ Life Orb
Jolly
Sandstream
252att/252spd/6spdf
- DD
- Crunch
- EQ
- Sub

sub...you die...free DD...and so on
 

IC3R

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Wait... Are wii still trying to counter the Wonder Guard Porygon2? If so, then I've got something...

Pinsir @ Choice Band
MOLD BREAKER
Adamant
252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 SpDef
- Close Combat
- X-Scissor
- Stone Edge
- Um... Hyper Beam? (lol)

MOLD BREAKER FTW. Now you can be hit by Close Combat. I also resist HP Fighting.
OMG!!!!! The first time Pinsir actually got some use, like, ever...Fourth move should be Earthquake to take on any Levitators like Weezing and Bronzong.

@ HCF's Heracross

Instead repeating with Gliscor, I'll use:

Weezing @ Black Sludge
Levitate
Bold
252 / 252 Def / 6 SpAtk
- Fire Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
I'm countering Weezing since it counters that Heracross, which countered my Porygon2.

Arcanine @ Leftovers
Timid / Flash Fire
EVs - 44 HP, 104 Def, 108 SpDef, 252 Speed
~Fire Blast
~Dragon Pulse
~Reversal
~Crunch

Well this is a funky Arcanine...It absorbs your W-o-W and Fire Blast attacks and causes Flash Fire to activate, making Fire Blast absurdly powerful. Takes your T-bolts like nothing.

-Fire Blast is godly when Flash Fire is activated. Arc is carrying Dragon Pulse for anything trying to resist it, Crunch for coverage and chance of lowering the foe's Defense, and finally Reversal for some PowerSweeping at low health Go right on ahead and Toss me to near 0 Blissey lol).

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EDIT: Okay, I hate it when multiple people post like that; it makes everything confusing.

@ Mood4Food - Sheddy probably switches on the turn Forry uses SR, so it won't kill it, and is therefore countered.

@ The9litch - Sheddy has already been countered, and has been for several hours. Also, T-tar hates that X-Scissor attack Sheddy is carrying. And if you switch it in anyway, you won't get a free Sub or DD, since Sheddy will die at the end of that turn.

ARCANINE IS CURRENTLY IN PLAY!!!!
 

Wii4Mii 99

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OMG!!!!! The first time Pinsir actually got some use, like, ever...Fourth move should be Earthquake to take on any Levitators like Weezing and Bronzong.



I'm countering Weezing since it counters that Heracross, which countered my Porygon2.

Arcanine @ Leftovers
Timid / Flash Fire
EVs - 44 HP, , 252 Speed
~Fire Blast
~Dragon Pulse
~Reversal
~Crunch

Well this is a funky Arcanine...It absorbs your W-o-W and Fire Blast attacks and causes Flash Fire to activate, making Fire Blast absurdly powerful. Takes your T-bolts like nothing.

-Fire Blast is godly when Flash Fire is activated. Arc is carrying Dragon Pulse for anything trying to resist it, Crunch for coverage and chance of lowering the foe's Defense, and finally Reversal for some PowerSweeping at low health Go right on ahead and Toss me to near 0 Blissey lol).

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EDIT: Okay, I hate it when multiple people post like that; it makes everything confusing.

@ Mood4Food - Sheddy probably switches on the turn Forry uses SR, so it won't kill it, and is therefore countered.

@ The9litch - Sheddy has already been countered, and has been for several hours. Also, T-tar hates that X-Scissor attack Sheddy is carrying. And if you switch it in anyway, you won't get a free Sub or DD, since Sheddy will die at the end of that turn.

ARCANINE IS CURRENTLY IN PLAY!!!!
Your EV spread is incomplete.

Also, take a look at my sig... It's sad.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

Terywj [태리]

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I HATE it when my Internet just decides to die for a day or two...

So it's Arcanine??

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Jolly/Intimidate
40 HP/8 Def/208 Spd/252 Sp Def
-Earthquake
-Dragon Dance
-Ice Fang
-Waterfall

-Terywj...ou <Keyboard not connected. Press F1 to continue.>
 

IC3R

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Your EV spread is incomplete.
Hehe...oops...


Completed EV Spread
\/ \/ \/

Arcanine @ Leftovers
Timid / Flash Fire
EVs - 44 HP, 104 Def, 108 SpDef, 252 Speed
~Fire Blast
~Dragon Pulse
~Reversal
~Crunch


And I'm sorry to hear about the school thing, but isn't it getting close to Winter Break?
 

mood4food77

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...wow, that's a really bad set

for bronzong

Gardevoir@chesto berry
Synchronize
HP Fire
Psychic
Recover
Shadow Ball


comes in on hypnosis, gives teh sleep back, wakes up, kills with HP Fire
 

mood4food77

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...wow, that's a really bad set

for bronzong

Gardevoir@chesto berry
Synchronize
HP Fire
Psychic
Calm Mind
Shadow Ball


comes in on hypnosis, gives teh sleep back, wakes up, kills with HP Fire
 

IC3R

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Countering Bronzong:

Bronzong @ Lum Berry
Levitate/Hasty
252 hp/129 def/129 sdef
-Imprison
-Hypnosis
-Charge Beam
-Calm Mind

Imprison is the ultimate counter to any Bronzor or Bronzong. Dream Eater, heh.
That's frickin hilarious...

Banette @ Choice Scarf
Jolly / Insomnia
EVs - 4 HP, 252 Att, 252 Spd
~Shadow Claw
~Body Slam
~Torment
~Trick

This is a really ghetto Banette that has saved me from a billion Choice Sweepers, even if I have to Trick a Scarf on them all speedy like :p Trick the Scarf on you and then Torment so you are forced to Struggle. While I do...whatever the heck I feel like. Hopefully you won't be stuck on Charge Beam, cause that would pose a bit of a problem; two turns of damage? No thanks...

I have Shadow Claw for decent STAB power and Body Slam so I'm not completely walled by Normals and a 30% chance of Paralysis, making Banette a little more scary than it's usually slow self. MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
 

shadydentist

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Jynx @ Wise Glasses
Modest/Oblivious
252 Sp.Attack/252 Sp.Defense/4 Speed
Taunt
Focus Blast
Ice Beam
Psychic

gg
Spiritomb @ leftovers
Careful/Pressure
252 hp/ 252 atk/ 6 sp. def
Sucker Punch
Pursuit
Will-O-wisp
Hypnosis

Immune to psychic and focus blast, sucker punches/pursuits.
 

Hippochinfat

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Spiritomb @ leftovers
Careful/Pressure
252 hp/ 252 atk/ 6 sp. def
Sucker Punch
Pursuit
Will-O-wisp
Hypnosis

Immune to psychic and focus blast, sucker punches/pursuits.
Heracross@ Choice band
Adamant/Guts
252 attack 252 speed 6 hp.
Megahorn
close combat
stone edge
sleep talk.

He resists both of spiritombs attacking moves and loves to be burnt thanks to guts and sleep talk lets him absorb and get a guts boost from hypnosis. Megahorn is definetly a OHKO with a guts boost and I'm pretty sure it'll OHKO without one.
 

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Megahorn is NVE on Ghost-types. So, no OHKO. Regardless:

Clamperl w/Leftovers
Stubborn/Shell Armor
252 attack 252 speed 6 hp
Attract
Barrier
Whirlpool
Water Pulse

Attract doesn't trigger Guts. Even if it did, Barrier blox joo. Water Pulse is just there for kicks. Self-kicks. Painful ones.
 

Hippochinfat

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Megahorn is NVE on Ghost-types. So, no OHKO. Regardless:

Clamperl w/Leftovers
Stubborn/Shell Armor
252 attack 252 speed 6 hp
Attract
Barrier
Whirlpool
Water Pulse

Attract doesn't trigger Guts. Even if it did, Barrier blox joo. Water Pulse is just there for kicks. Self-kicks. Painful ones.
Dude, spiritomb is part dark so it's neutral on spiritomb. Clamperl doesn't counter hera, he gets ohko'd by close combat, megahorn and stone edge.


HERACROSS IS IN PLAY STILL.
 

The9litch

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the counter game is never going to end and its just an infinite cycle. ie: i bring in Glicsor then the next bring in starmie, then bliss, then ape and it never stops until the cycle begins again =[.
 

mood4food77

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Crobat@focus sash
Jolly
252/252/6 (SPD/ATK/HP)
Aerial Ace
Cross Poison
Zen Headbutt
U-Turn

comes in, focus sash incase of Stone Edge, Aerial Ace for a OHKO

who cares, it's fun
 

Hippochinfat

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Crobat@focus sash
Jolly
252/252/6 (SPD/ATK/HP)
Aerial Ace
Cross Poison
Zen Headbutt
U-Turn

comes in, focus sash incase of Stone Edge, Aerial Ace for a OHKO

who cares, it's fun

Stone edge will OHKO and if crobat has taken ANY damage focus sash won't work. Not a counter.

HERACROSS IS STILL IN PLAY.


YOHOHO AND A BITE OF GUM GUM
 

mood4food77

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it will work

focus sash works no matter the damage, it leaves it at 1 HP, it just makes sure you'll have at least 1 life left

if he switches into stone edge, he'll take the damage and be left with 1 HP, then since he's faster, he'll use AA which will OHKO hera due to a 4x weakness and a fairly low defense
 

Hippochinfat

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it will work

focus sash works no matter the damage, it leaves it at 1 HP, it just makes sure you'll have at least 1 life left

if he switches into stone edge, he'll take the damage and be left with 1 HP, then since he's faster, he'll use AA which will OHKO hera due to a 4x weakness and a fairly low defense
No, focus sash only works if you have 100% of you health. So heracross is still in play.
 

mood4food77

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ok, so it doesn't work

but it came pretty **** close

so if SR is out, it doesn't work, if not, then crobat can counter
 

MysticKenji

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So, I guess I'll counter Crobat.

Granbull w/ Iron Ball
Jolly/Intimidate
252/252/6 (SPD/ATK/HP)
Crunch
Fling
Earthquake
Heal Bell

Fling de-resists Earthquake. Heal Bell in case of Poisoning. Moo.
Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Bold/Chlorophyll
252 Defense/252 HP/4 Sp. Attack
Substitute
Leech Seed
Focus Blast
Energy Ball
 

IC3R

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Dratini w/ Dragon Fang
Quirky/Shed Skin
252 Sp. Defense/252 HP/4 Sp. Attack
Outrage
Fire Blast
Draco Meteor
Safeguard
Umm...okay >_>

Empoleon @ Shell Bell
Modest / Torrent
EVs - 252 SpAtt, 68 SpDef, 188 Spd
~Surf
~Hidden Power [Electric]
~Ice Beam
~Agility

After an Agility, this Empo outspeeds Adamant Scarfcross, and a billion other things. It takes Special hits pretty well, and takes NVE damage from Outrage. And Shell Bell allows for HP recovery since it has no HP EVs. I really don't like this set, and it shouldn't be too hard to take down really...So have fun with it...
 

mood4food77

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Lanturn@leftovers
Volt Absorb
Calm
16/252/242 (HP/SP.DEF/SP.ATK)
Thunderbolt
Surf
Ice Beam
HP Fire

comes in, resists all of empoleon's attacks, attacks back with tbolt
 

IC3R

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Gengar
wide lens or whatevar
255/255
timid

hypnosis
shadow ball
focus blast
thunderbolt
Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Bold / Pressure
EVs - 252 HP, 196 Def, 60 SpDef
~Shadow Ball
~Hidden Power [Fighting]
~Calm Mind
~Hypnosis

Takes Shadow Ball and Thunderbolt like cash at a strip club candy store >_>' More Ghosting cause I love it so much. Uses Hypnosis to sleep you while I buff up with some CMs, and finally KOs with Shadow Ball. HP Fighting covers everything that the Ball doesn't.

Also, I totally saw that Lanturn coming. Didn't feel like giving Empo Earthquake >_>
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Jumpluff w/ Big Root
Rash / Leaf Guard
EVs - 196 HP, 252 Def, 60 SpDef
~ Leech Seed
~ Sunny Day
~ H.P (Water)
~ Solarbeam

Self-explanatory, this is.
Abomasnow @ Leftovers
Snow Warning
Timid
6 Atk / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Focus Punch
- Blizzard

Switches in to stop the sunlight. Immune to Leech Seed, resistant to HP Water and SolarBeam (SolarBeam is also weaker in the Hail) and KOs with Blizzard.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

MysticKenji

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Abomasnow @ Leftovers
Snow Warning
Timid
6 Atk / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Focus Punch
- Blizzard

Switches in to stop the sunlight. Immune to Leech Seed, resistant to HP Water and SolarBeam (SolarBeam is also weaker in the Hail) and KOs with Blizzard.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Bold
Liquid Ooze
200 Sp.Defense/200 Defense/104 Sp.Attack/4 Speed
Surf
Sludge Bomb
Blizzard
Giga Drain

I dare you to Leech Seed me.
 

mood4food77

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darn, saw my shedinja chance, oh well

but if hail isn't up

shedinja@choice back
wonder gaurd
252/252/6 (ATK/SPD/DEF)
Shadow Claw
Return
X-Scissor
Night Slash

comes in, immune to all attacks, attacks until you die

that is if hail wasn't up
 
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