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burntsocks said:
Haha this is a bit risky but:

Infernape@Salac
Naughty
252atk/252spd/4def

Flare Blitz
Tpunch
brick break
stone edge

Bam, fire blitz. In a pinch, i get salac boost+ability boost. Im hoping for the OHKO, but not sure.
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It might; I don't know. But you're gonna lol at the counter...

Raticate @ Focus Sash
Lonely / Guts
EVs - 4 HP, 252 Att, 252 Spd
~Endeavor
~Quick Attack
~Sucker Punch
~Reversal

FEAR meh n00b!!!! SashEndeavor Quick Attack for a single FEAR KO. I have Raticate cause I wanna be faster than a bit of stuff that's out there anyway, plus it's attacks do more damage after the FEAR KO...

-Ghosts come in naturally against fear, and Sucker Punch will deal with faster Ghosts. Reversal will put a small dent in a lot of Rock and Steel types.
 
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Gengar @ leftovers
Modest (+satk,-atk)
Levitate
252 satk/252 spd/4 hp
-Hypnosis
-Focus Blast
-Dark Pulse
-Thunder Bolt

Can't sucker punch Hypnosis, other attacks don't work.
 
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Platypus said:
.:EDITED FOR UNIFORMITY:.

Banette @ Spell Tag
Hasty / Insomnia
EVs - ??? <- You kinda forgot this part
~Sucker Punch
~Shadow Sneak
~Disable
~Protect
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Umm...okay...

Clefable @ Leftovers
Bold / Magic Guard
EVs - 212 HP, 172 Def, 124 SpDef
~Ice Beam
~Charge Beam
~Cosmic Power
~Softboiled

Something I call MegaFable. I can do just one attack to waste your Disable, then Cosmic Power to the max. Your Sucker Punch does nothing without me attacking, and Shadow Sneak is useless, so free CPs for me. Protect all you want, you're just wasting time and PP...

-Charge Beam is used to raise my Special Attack stat and make Ice Beam all that more deadly. Since Magic Guard protects me from Poison, Burn, Leech Seed, and other funky stuff, the only thing that could POSSIBLY take it down in this state is a Seismic Tosser, but beware of the high-powered Special Attacks coming from Fable. Softboiled is there to prevent massive blood loss, not that I'm taking to much damage anyway (other than Toss), and Leftovers takes care of the little stuff. Another thing to try against it would be Destiny Bond, but I can easily PP stall that out. PHazers get ***** by the high-power Beams I'm firing everywhere. This Fable is a frickin BEAST when it's set up...even if only halfway...
 
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IC3R said:
Umm...okay...

Clefable @ Leftovers
Bold / Magic Guard
EVs - 212 HP, 172 Def, 124 SpDef
~Ice Beam
~Charge Beam
~Cosmic Power
~Softboiled
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Bronzong @ Leftovers
Levitate
Impish (+def, -satk)
252 hp/152 def/100 sdef
-Psych Up
-Skill Swap
-Heal Block
-Toxic

Psych up to steal your Cosmic Power defenses, Skill Swap to take away Magic Guard, Heal Block so that you can't heal, and then Toxic to kill you while you can't heal.

I'm not sure how strong your Charge Beam will be, but I think Bronzong can take them
 
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PaperDream said:
Bronzong @ Leftovers
Levitate
Impish (+def, -satk)
252 hp/152 def/100 sdef
-Psych Up
-Skill Swap
-Heal Block
-Toxic

Psych up to steal your Cosmic Power defenses, Skill Swap to take away Magic Guard, Heal Block so that you can't heal, and then Toxic to kill you while you can't heal.

I'm not sure how strong your Charge Beam will be, but I think Bronzong can take them
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Aerodactyl @ Leftovers
Adamant
Pressure
252 Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
-Taunt
-Earthquake
-Fire Fang
-Stone Edge

Taunt>Bronzong. Then wipe you out with either EG or F-Fang depending on your ability, but like that matters...

-Terywj...ou <Keyboad not connected. Press F1 to continue.>
 
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Terywj said:
Aerodactyl @ Leftovers
Adamant
Pressure
252 Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
-Taunt
-Earthquake
-Fire Fang
-Stone Edge

Taunt>Bronzong. Then wipe you out with either EG or F-Fang depending on your ability, but like that matters...

-Terywj...ou <Keyboad not connected. Press F1 to continue.>
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out of curiosity, what would happen if that Bonzong was Taunted? Would it use Struggle if it tried to attack? Or would it be forced to switch (and struggle if it was the last remaining Poke)?
 
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Terywj said:
Aerodactyl @ Leftovers
Adamant
Pressure
252 Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
-Taunt
-Earthquake
-Fire Fang
-Stone Edge

Taunt>Bronzong. Then wipe you out with either EQ or F-Fang depending on your ability, but like that matters...

-Terywj...ou <Keyboard not connected. Press F1 to continue.>
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I saw that Zong, and I was like...yeah...Have fun trying to live through a Stage 7 Charge Beam. But anyway...
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Aerocounter:

Electrode @ Liechi Berry
Rash / SoundProof
EVs - 80Att, 252 SpAtt, 176 Spd
~Thunderbolt
~HP Ice
~Explosion
~Substitute

This Electrode is just one Speed point higher than that Aerodactyl, meaning a soild T-Bolt will put it out of commision.

-The third-fastest Poke in the entire game (behind Jask's Speed Boosting ability and Speed Form Deoxys, Electrode can put a bit of hurt on most Pokes. Anything that can take repeated assaults from T-Bolt and HP Ice gets a nice faceful of Trode shrapnel, which will tear a hole into a good number of things. Explosion ensures that it goes out with a BANG!!!!
 
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I'm not sure if this will work...if it doesn't please tell me...

Camerupt @ Leftovers
Timid
Solid Rock
252 Sp Atk/252 Spd/6 Sp Def or HP
-Overheat
-Earth Power
-Flamethrower
-Yawn
 
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IC3R said:
I saw that Zong, and I was like...yeah...Have fun trying to live through a Stage 7 Charge Beam. But anyway...
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Aerocounter:

Electrode @ Liechi Berry
Rash / SoundProof
EVs - 80Att, 252 SpAtt, 176 Spd
~Thunderbolt
~HP Ice
~Explosion
~Substitute

This Electrode is just one Speed point higher than that Aerodactyl, meaning a soild T-Bolt will put it out of commision.

-The third-fastest Poke in the entire game (behind Jask's Speed Boosting ability and Speed Form Deoxys, Electrode can put a bit of hurt on most Pokes. Anything that can take repeated assaults from T-Bolt and HP Ice gets a nice faceful of Trode shrapnel, which will tear a hole into a good number of things. Explosion ensures that it goes out with a BANG!!!!
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cOUNTERS HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SWITCH IN SAFTLEY. ELECTRODE CAN'T. Normal deoxys and deoxys attack are faster then electrode FYI
 
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Terywj said:
I'm not sure if this will work...if it doesn't please tell me...

Camerupt @ Leftovers
Timid
Solid Rock
252 Sp Atk/252 Spd/6 Sp Def or HP
-Overheat
-Earth Power
-Flamethrower
-Yawn
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Leftovers Insomnia Calm
Moveset EVs
~ Psychic
~ Hypnosis
~ Wish
~ Light Screen


Hypno can take all of camperuts special attacks since he's the no. 1 OU special wall. He's also immune to yawn. He can set up light screen and put camperut to sleep then wear him down with psychic.

By the way

Camperut@ Choice specs
Eruption
Flamethrower
Earth power
Hidden power ice.

Nothing resists that, this thing is a BEAST on trick room teams.
 
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Hippochinfat said:
Leftovers Insomnia Calm
Moveset EVs
~ Psychic
~ Hypnosis
~ Wish
~ Light Screen


Hypno can take all of camperuts special attacks since he's the no. 1 OU special wall. He's also immune to yawn. He can set up light screen and put camperut to sleep then wear him down with psychic.

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Ok here:

Weavile
Adamant
4hp/252atk/252spd

Night slash
Ice punch
pursuit
Brick Break

Switch in on psycic, bye bye hypno. Pursuit if u predict a switch. Btw, i didnt know hypno was #1 OU special wall. I thought he was UU...oh well.
 
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MetaKnightmare said:
Here is the torkoal iv been wanting 2 try out

Torkoal
Leftovers/White smoke/Calm
252 def/4 satk/252 sdef

Substitute
Heat wave
Rest
Amnesia


Defensive BEAST
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...a defensive beast that gets owned by taunters like this one:

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Naive
Sand Stream
212 Atk/252 Spd/46 Sp Atk
-Surf
-Earthquake
-Substitute
-Taunt
Taunts you so you can only use Heat Wave, then pummel you with EQ or Surf.

-Terywj...ou <Keyboard not connected. Press F1 to continue.>
 
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to weavile

Metagross@CB
Adamant
252/252/6 (ATK/HP/DEF)
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Zen headbutt
Hammer Arm

comes in and will OHKO you
 
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i oculdn't tell if torkoal was actually a counter to weavile, which i don't think it is
 
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spiritdragon said:
Countered with:

Blissey@Leftovers
252HP/252Spdef/6Def
- Thunder Wave/Sing
- Aromatheraphy
- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss/Ice Beam
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1st of all, if multiple people post, go with the last one. Second of all, this is an invalid set because you have to choose 4 moves. Salamence is still in play.
 
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spiritdragon said:
Countered with:

Blissey@Leftovers
252HP/252Spdef/6Def
- Thunder Wave/Sing
- Aromatheraphy
- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss/Ice Beam
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Choose one i think was said... I'll just take thunder wave and seismic toss

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
252 def/ 252 sdef/ 6 spd
Pressure/Careful
-Mean Look
-Pain Split
-Taunt
-Focus Punch

I just came up with this anti-blissey beast =)

EDIT: finished after you shadydentist, but i was already typing this so sorry.
 
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spiritdragon said:
Sorry, was first time.

To Dusknoir:

Mismagius@Nothing
Modest 255SpAtt/255Spd
- Thief
- Mean Look
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp
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Muk @ Lum Berry
Impish / Sticky Hold
EVs - 200 Att, 152 Def, 156 SpDef
~Drain Punch
~Shadow Punch
~Thunder Punch
~Acid Armor

Muk can take Special Attacks pretty well. Thief all you want, you're not getting a hold of the Lum Berry Muk has for that Burn you want to put on it. Shadow Punch outta finish Mismag nicely.

-Drain Punch for a little more coverage, and a fun recovery option. Thunderpunch is for stuff like Suicune, Milotic, and Gyarados. And Acid Armor to make up for Muk's relativly poor Defense.
 
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Platypus said:
Dustox w/ Scope Lens
Naughty / Shield Dust
EVs - 200 Att, 152 Def, 156 SpDef
~Sleep Powder
~Giga Impact
~Silver Wind
~Attract

Criticals pierce defenses. Good stat changes continue, though.
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lol Dustox...

Drapion @ Choice Band
Jolly / Battle Armor
EVs - 4 HP, 252 Att, 252 Spd
~Crunch
~Earthquake
~Fire Fang
~Ice Fang

CB Drapion; a fun critter I must say. His good Base Defense should be enough to absorb your Giga Impact, while Battle Armor negates any chance of a crit on him, and gets to strike back with a high-powered attack. This bugger is absolute win ^_^

-Crunch for STAB and a chance of lowering the foe's Defense, Earthquake for coverage on Steels, Fire Fang for the Steels that can Levitate or is named Skarmory. Ice Fang just to scare off Dragons that like to get in the way, plus Gliscor...
 
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burntsocks said:
Ok here:

Weavile
Adamant
4hp/252atk/252spd

Night slash
Ice punch
pursuit
Brick Break

Switch in on psycic, bye bye hypno. Pursuit if u predict a switch. Btw, i didnt know hypno was #1 OU special wall. I thought he was UU...oh well.
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Woops my bad I meant number 1 UU special wall

Foretress@ leftovers
Gyro ball
stealth rock
spikes
Explosion/light screen/toxic spikes


Resists both STABs takes neutral from BB and gyro ball destroys weavile.
 
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IC3R said:
lol Dustox...

Drapion @ Choice Band
Jolly / Battle Armor
EVs - 4 HP, 252 Att, 252 Spd
~Crunch
~Earthquake
~Fire Fang
~Ice Fang

CB Drapion; a fun critter I must say. His good Base Defense should be enough to absorb your Giga Impact, while Battle Armor negates any chance of a crit on him, and gets to strike back with a high-powered attack. This bugger is absolute win ^_^

-Crunch for STAB and a chance of lowering the foe's Defense, Earthquake for coverage on Steels, Fire Fang for the Steels that can Levitate or is named Skarmory. Ice Fang just to scare off Dragons that like to get in the way, plus Gliscor...
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Donphan@ leftovers
Earthquake
rapid spin
Stealth rock/knock off/roar
ice shard.

Walls him well and can OHKO with stab EQ of his huge attack stat.
 
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Hippochinfat said:
Donphan@ leftovers
Earthquake
rapid spin
Stealth rock/knock off/roar
ice shard.

Walls him well and can OHKO with stab EQ of his huge attack stat.
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Once again, another invalid set. I'm going to assume you're using Stealth Rock. And you need to post EVs as well. 'Kay?

I so wanna post my Zong again, but it appears I can't. Very well:

Chatot @ Leftovers
Timid / Tangled Feet
EVs - 4 HP, 252 SpAtt, 252 Spd
~Hyper Voice
~Chatter
~Nasty Plot
~Encore

You will definitely use EQ or SR on that Forry after Spinning it's stuff away, so Chatty here can switch into either without much fear of death. Encore your Earthquake or Stealth Rock to prevent you from even touching me, while I think up a Nasty Plot and use my Hyper Voice to Chatter all your Pokes to death. Have fun...
 
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More Aerodactyl goodness. :)

Aerodactyl @ Leftovers
Jolly
Pressure
252 Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
-Taunt
-Stone Edge
-Fire Fang
-Ice Fang
~Taunts you for only Hyper Voice, then ***** with Stone Edge.
 
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MetaKnightmare said:
You are gonna LOL when u see this set

Probopass@Choice Band
Brave/Magnet pull
252 atk/252 def/6 sdef
-Gyro Ball
-Stone Edge
-Double-edge
-Explosion

lol
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bronzong @ leftovers
relaxed/levitate
252 hp, 170 sp. def, 88 def
earthquake
gyro ball
toxic
light screen

Resists all 4 attacks, ***** with earthquake
 
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Assuming Levitate

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Impish/Pressure
252 def/252 sdef/6 hp
-Taunt
-Gravity
-Pain Split
-Earthquake

Use the above set to counter.
If heatproof,

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Impish/Pressure
252 def/252 sdef/6 hp
-Taunt
-Pursuit
-Pain Split
-Earthquake
 
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