The Old Counter Game

[Wii4Mii 99]

@ torkoal
houndoom @ focus sash
Flash fire
252 spd 252 sp. attk 6 hp
nasty plot
flamethrower
dark pulse
substitute

With heat wave as your only attack, you can't touch this.

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Flash Fire
Calm
252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 6 SpDef
- Overheat
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Dragon Pulse

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[MetaKnightmare]

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Flash Fire
Calm
252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 6 SpDef
- Overheat
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Dragon Pulse

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Dugtrio @ choice band
Arena trap/adamant
252 atk/252 spd/6 hp
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Slash
-Aerial Ace

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Dugtrio @ choice band
Arena trap/adamant
252 atk/252 spd/6 hp
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Slash
-Aerial Ace

Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Timid/Sand Veil
252 Sp Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
-Dragon Pulse
-Surf
-Fire Blast
-Hidden Power Ground

-Terywj...ou <Keyboard not connected. Press F1 to continue.>

 

[IC3R]

Dugtrio @ choice band
Arena trap/adamant
252 atk/252 spd/6 hp
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Slash
-Aerial Ace

Salamence @ Leftovers
Jolly / Intimidate
EVs - 212 HP, 128 Def, 132 SpDef, 36 Spd
~Dragon Claw
~Fire Blast
~Earthquake
~Dragon Dance

You'll be Choiced on Earthquake, so those are free DDs for me. That will power up my Dragon Claw and Earthquake attacks.

-Nothing resists the Fire-Dragon-Ground move combination, so it can handle a lot of stuff thrown at it. This Mence is slightly more bulky than the usual stuff, so it can take a couple more hits. Dragon Claw has STAB and gets a boost from Dragon Dance, as well as Earthquake. Fire Blast can take care of most Defense-inclined pHazers (Skarmory, Donphan, Hippowdon, etc.). After a DD, this Mence can outspeed Adamant ScarfCross Bring on the bacon!!!!

 

[jigglyppuff8]

Salamence @ Leftovers
Jolly / Intimidate
EVs - 212 HP, 128 Def, 132 SpDef, 36 Spd
~Dragon Claw
~Fire Blast
~Earthquake
~Dragon Dance

You'll be Choiced on Earthquake, so those are free DDs for me. That will power up my Dragon Claw and Earthquake attacks.

-Nothing resists the Fire-Dragon-Ground move combination, so it can handle a lot of stuff thrown at it. This Mence is slightly more bulky than the usual stuff, so it can take a couple more hits. Dragon Claw has STAB and gets a boost from Dragon Dance, as well as Earthquake. Fire Blast can take care of most Defense-inclined pHazers (Skarmory, Donphan, Hippowdon, etc.). After a DD, this Mence can outspeed Adamant ScarfCross Bring on the bacon!!!!

BulkyGyara
Gyarados @ Leftovers
Adamant (+ atk - sp. atk)
Intimidate
EVs: 212 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Speed
~Dragon Dance
~Waterfall
~Stone Edge
~Taunt

Resists your attacks and taunts your DDance and hurts you with stone edge. Waterfall for coverage. Intimidate lowers your attack so Dragon Claw will be weaker.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Couldn't you have given Gyara Ice Fang? Anyways...

Starmie @ Expert Belt
Timid/Natural Cure
252 Sp Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
-Thunderbolt
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot

-Terywj...ou <Keyboard not connected. Press F1 to continue.>

 

[jigglyppuff8]

Couldn't you have given Gyara Ice Fang? Anyways...

Starmie @ Expert Belt
Timid/Natural Cure
252 Sp Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
-Thunderbolt
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot

-Terywj...ou <Keyboard not connected. Press F1 to continue.>

If I'd have given Gyara Ice Fang, it would have been completely powerless against other water types. I don't have a counter for starmie so I'll give it to the next guy.

 

[MysticKenji]

Dugtrio @ choice band
Arena trap/adamant
252 atk/252 spd/6 hp
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Slash
-Aerial Ace

Not a counter
Dragon Pulse and Overheat can OHKO on the switch.

 

[The9litch]

and even if duggy could switch in safely (which he cant) ScarfTran outspeeds it and blasts it to hell

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Okay...but Starmie is still the current counter...



< I didn't like the other avatar...

-Terywj...ou <Keyboard not connected. Press F1 to continue.>

 

[IC3R]

Couldn't you have given Gyara Ice Fang? Anyways...

Starmie @ Expert Belt
Timid/Natural Cure
252 Sp Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
-Thunderbolt
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot

-Terywj...ou <Keyboard not connected. Press F1 to continue.>

Registeel @ Leftovers
Careful / Clear Body
EVs - 204 HP, 252 Def, 52 SpDef
~Brick Break
~Shadow Claw
~Amnesia
~Curse

Mega-bulky Registeel takes your Special moves like Samus takes Energy Tanks in Metroid Prime 3. It can Amnesia to boost it's SpDef to monstrous levels, as well as Cursing to power up its Def stat, also making Brick Break and Shadow Claw a bit more powerful. Ghosting is fun

 

[shadydentist]

Registeel @ Leftovers
Careful / Clear Body
EVs - 204 HP, 252 Def, 52 SpDef
~Brick Break
~Shadow Claw
~Amnesia
~Curse

Mega-bulky Registeel takes your Special moves like Samus takes Energy Tanks in Metroid Prime 3. It can Amnesia to boost it's SpDef to monstrous levels, as well as Cursing to power up its Def stat, also making Brick Break and Shadow Claw a bit more powerful. Ghosting is fun

Weezing @ black sludge
Levitate/bold
-Will-o-wisp
-pain split
-haze
-thunderbolt

Wisps you, hazes away your curses and amnesias.

 

[MetaKnightmare]

T-tar@Lefties
Sand stream/Quiet
252 hp/188 satk/68 spd
-Substitute
-Taunt
-Dark Pulse
-Thunderbolt

Pseudo-Boah FTW!

EDIT: to mystic kenji on my dugtrio moveset, hetran w/ scarf and no evs or nature only has max 285 spd, whereas my dugtrio has 339 at max w/o nature

 

[mood4food77]

staraptor@choice scarf
intimidate
252/252/6 (ATK/SPD/HP)
close combat
brave bird
u-turn
return


scarf raptor on the switch, CC for a OHKO

 

[MetaKnightmare]

i dont think it can safely switch in on t-bolt...

 

[shadydentist]

If the t-tar subs or t-bolts on the switch, its potentially over for staraptor.

 

[mood4food77]

i didn't see substitute

darn

oh well

starmie@choice specs
Timid
252/252/6 (SPD/SP.ATK/HP)
Natural Cure
Surf
Ice beam
Tbolt
Grass knot


i'm pretty sure it can survive a tbolt from ttar

 

[Zook]

Wynaut @ Focus Sash
Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 Hp
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
-Mirror Coat

Heheheh.

 

[mood4food77]

that's cruel

 

[MetaKnightmare]

...




Ohkay...
If we're still using the non-uber,
Magnezone @ Lefties
Modest/Magnet Pull
252 hp/252 satk/6 sdef
-Substitute
-Thunderbolt
-Flash Cannon
-Tri attack

Otherwise, for wynaut
Sunkern @ Focus Sash
Solar Power/Hardy
NO EV's W00T!
-Sunny Day
-Solar Beam
-Endeavor
-Grass Knot

WORST POKEMON IN THE GAME FTW!

 

[IC3R]

Wynaut @ Focus Sash
Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 Hp
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
-Mirror Coat

Heheheh.

You have to post everything about it.

Assuming the usual set:

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Adamant / Keen Eye
EVs - 244 HP, 68 Att, 192 Def, 4 Spd
~Brave Bird
~Rock Slide
~Roost
~Taunt

Taunt = Struggle on Wynaut.

-Brave Bird for amazing STAB damage, with Roost to help heal it. Rock Slide for Fire types and crap like Gyarados and Mence. I can already see the counter coming...

 

[MetaKnightmare]

T-tar@Lefties
Sand stream/Quiet
252 hp/188 satk/68 spd
-Substitute
-Taunt
-Dark Pulse
-Thunderbolt

Pseudo-Boah FTW!

EDIT: to mystic kenji on my dugtrio moveset, hetran w/ scarf and no evs or nature only has max 285 spd, whereas my dugtrio has 339 at max w/o nature

Deja Pwned?
= pwned before (by this)

 

[Hippochinfat]

Once again, another invalid set. I'm going to assume you're using Stealth Rock. And you need to post EVs as well. 'Kay?

I so wanna post my Zong again, but it appears I can't. Very well:

Chatot @ Leftovers
Timid / Tangled Feet
EVs - 4 HP, 252 SpAtt, 252 Spd
~Hyper Voice
~Chatter
~Nasty Plot
~Encore

You will definitely use EQ or SR on that Forry after Spinning it's stuff away, so Chatty here can switch into either without much fear of death. Encore your Earthquake or Stealth Rock to prevent you from even touching me, while I think up a Nasty Plot and use my Hyper Voice to Chatter all your Pokes to death. Have fun...

chatot is far from a counter. A counter has to be able to switch in saftley and he can't switch into ice shard since it's a 2HKO. if you switch in on EQ, rapid spin or SR and try to encore me I'll have used ice shard and since ice shard always goes first you'll end up encoring ice shard and then get 2HKO'd.

So yeah definetly not a counter. Chatot sucks so much.

 

[shadydentist]

Deja Pwned?
= pwned before (by this)

Dugtrio still can't switch in on an overheat.

 

[Hippochinfat]

You have to post everything about it.

Assuming the usual set:

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Adamant / Keen Eye
EVs - 244 HP, 68 Att, 192 Def, 4 Spd
~Brave Bird
~Rock Slide
~Roost
~Taunt

Taunt = Struggle on Wynaut.

-Brave Bird for amazing STAB damage, with Roost to help heal it. Rock Slide for Fire types and crap like Gyarados and Mence. I can already see the counter coming...

No offence but that set sucks.

Anyways

Heatran@ Choice scarf
Fire blast
earth power
hidden power ice
explosion


Fire blast just destroys skarmory and rock slide and brave bird will only tickle him.

 

[shadydentist]

gyarados @choice band
Initmidate/jolly
252 attk, 252 spd, 6 hp
Waterfall
Ice Fang
Earthquake
Return

Resists everything except explosion and hp ice. HP ice won't do much, and exploding doesn't count.

 

[IC3R]

chatot is far from a counter. A counter has to be able to switch in saftley and he can't switch into ice shard since it's a 2HKO. if you switch in on EQ, rapid spin or SR and try to encore me I'll have used ice shard and since ice shard always goes first you'll end up encoring ice shard and then get 2HKO'd.

So yeah definetly not a counter. Chatot sucks so much.

Fine then...I see where you're going with that...

@ My Skarm set

No offence but that set sucks.

Now you're just being mean...

Anyways

Heatran@ Choice scarf
Fire blast
earth power
hidden power ice
explosion

Fire blast just destroys skarmory and rock slide and brave bird will only tickle him.

Once again, someone forgot the Nature and EVs.

POST THE NATURE AND EVS OF YOUR COUNTER!!!!!!!!!

Now then...

Ninetales @ Leftovers
Modest / Flash Fire
EVs - 180 HP, 64 SpAtt, 12 SpDef, 252 Spd
~Flamethrower
~HP Dragon
~Nasty Plot
~Hypnosis

Ninetales has enough SpDef to survive an Earth Power or two. It absorbs Fire Blast, and takes jack from HP Ice. No one uses Explosion against Skarmory, so that doesn't worry me.

-I can do either Hypnosis or Nasty Plot on the switch, cause when Scarftran runs away, I get some free support going. Ironically enough, Heatran could wall this thing if it wasn't Choiced on a useless move (barring Explosion); good thing Heatran can't be posted next Nasty Plots make Special Walls cry.

 

[Hippochinfat]

Fine then...I see where you're going with that...



Once again, someone forgot the Nature and EVs.

POST THE NATURE AND EVS OF YOUR COUNTER!!!!!!!!!

Now then...

Ninetales @ Leftovers
Modest / Flash Fire
EVs - 180 HP, 64 SpAtt, 12 SpDef, 252 Spd
~Flamethrower
~HP Dragon
~Nasty Plot
~Hypnosis

Ninetales has enough SpDef to survive an Earth Power or two. It absorbs Fire Blast, and takes jack from HP Ice. No one uses Explosion against Skarmory, so that doesn't worry me.

-I can do either Hypnosis or Nasty Plot on the switch, cause when Scarftran runs away, I get some free support going. Ironically enough, Heatran could wall this thing if it wasn't Choiced on a useless move (barring Explosion); good thing Heatran can't be posted next Nasty Plots make Special Walls cry.

Not to much of a counter because he can't switch into earth power or explosion (The heatran user could predict that skarm was gonna switch and then hammer ninetails with earth power or explosion0

BUT

Hypno @ leftovers
Calm/ Insomnia
evs: 252 sp. def, 252 hp
seismec toss
Hypnosis
Wish
Light screen.

he's immune to hypnosis and can hit ninetails back with a hypnosis of his own and he's got alot of special defence. seismecc toss to wear ninetails down and eventually KO, wish to heal and light screen to make ninetails attack's weaker.

 

[mood4food77]

hipponchinfat's heatran counters that...

and since a gyarados counters that

i'll counter that

Mantine@leftovers
Bold
252/176/82 (HP/DEF/SP.DEF)
HP electric
surf
ice beam
aqua ring

comes in, absorbs the hits, hits back with HP electric for a OHKO

 

[shadydentist]

Exploding does not count as countering, and you have to be able to switch in on ANY move, even if they predict perfectly. Don't make assumptions like "No one uses explosion against skarmory".

 

[Hippochinfat]

hipponchinfat's heatran counters that...

and since a gyarados counters that

i'll counter that

Mantine@leftovers
Bold
252/176/82 (HP/DEF/SP.DEF)
HP electric
surf
ice beam
aqua ring

comes in, absorbs the hits, hits back with HP electric for a OHKO

Electivire@ expert belt
Adamant, motor drive, 252 speed, 252 attack, 6 sp. defence.
thunder punch
ice punch
earthquake
cross chop

Switches in super easy and gets a motor drive boost from HP electric and Ohko's with thunder punch.

 

[MetaKnightmare]

For your sig, you need to do a [ img] and then the site and then a [/ img] without the spaces

Forry @ Lefties
Sturdy / Careful
76 hp/252 sdef/180 def
-Substitute
-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Gyro Ball

Eats up any attacks with huge defense, EQs you

 

[Zook]

Shedy @ Focus Sash
Wonder Guard
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/6SpAtk
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
-X-Scissor
-Shadow Claw
-Swords Dance
-Agility

Sure, he can't do **** to Forretress, but neither can Forretress. Mwahaha.

 

[IC3R]

Shedy @ Focus Sash
Wonder Guard
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/6SpAtk
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
-X-Scissor
-Shadow Claw
-Swords Dance
-Agility

Sure, he can't do **** to Forretress, but neither can Forretress. Mwahaha.

Porygon 2 @ Leftovers
Bold / Trace
EVs - 228 HP, 112 Def, 168 SpDef
~Shadow Ball
~Hidden Power [Fighting]
~Conversion 2
~Recover

HAHA! I just Traced your Wonder Guard, so now what? You can't do a thing, while I can still Shadow Ball you into oblivion!

-With Wonder Guard Traced, Conversion 2 changing my type into whatever I need to be. When a Fighting attack hits, I change into either Poison, Flying, Bug, or even Ghost. And then I can Recover to sweep away the damage. This is like SuperSheddy, because it actually has HP and decent Defenses. The ultimate annoyance...

And here comes the counter...

 

[MetaKnightmare]

Alakazam @ Expert belt
Synchronize/Timid
252 satk/252 spd/6 hp
-Shadow Ball
-Psychic
-Focus blast
-Grass Knot

 

[IC3R]

Alakazam @ Expert belt
Synchronize/Timid
252 satk/252 spd/6 hp
-Shadow Ball
-Psychic
-Focus blast
-Grass Knot

Zam gets hit hard by Shadow Ball, and Focus Blast won't kill. Instead, I C2 and change my type to something you can't hit thanks to Traced Wonder Guard (Bug, Flying).

^^^
@ Everyone: Does this work? Or are we still on Porygon2?

 

[Platypus]

Actually, Wonder Guard can't be Traced, RPed, or Skill Swapped. But we're on Shedinja again.

 

[Hippochinfat]

For your sig, you need to do a [ img] and then the site and then a [/ img] without the spaces

Forry @ Lefties
Sturdy / Careful
76 hp/252 sdef/180 def
-Substitute
-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Gyro Ball

Eats up any attacks with huge defense, EQs you

but I was PMed the sig and it was an imagine not a link.

 

[Hippochinfat]

Porygon 2 @ Leftovers
Bold / Trace
EVs - 228 HP, 112 Def, 168 SpDef
~Shadow Ball
~Hidden Power [Fighting]
~Conversion 2
~Recover

HAHA! I just Traced your Wonder Guard, so now what? You can't do a thing, while I can still Shadow Ball you into oblivion!

-With Wonder Guard Traced, Conversion 2 changing my type into whatever I need to be. When a Fighting attack hits, I change into either Poison, Flying, Bug, or even Ghost. And then I can Recover to sweep away the damage. This is like SuperSheddy, because it actually has HP and decent Defenses. The ultimate annoyance...

And here comes the counter...

Heracross@ Choice scarf/ Choice band
Adamant/guts Evs: 252 attack, 252 speed, 6 hp.
Close combat
megahorn
stone edge
night slash

Destroys him with STAB fighting moves, resists HP fighting and can take shadow ball.

 

[IC3R]

Actually, Wonder Guard can't be Traced, RPed, or Skill Swapped. But we're on Shedinja again.

I checked, and it CAN be Traced, but not Swapped or Role Played.

Sorry



And Hippo, I sent you a PM regarding pics in your sig.