The Old Counter Game

[Platypus]

After a Dance, Macargo is easily ohko'd.

It's a moot point now, but Dance technically isn't usable, since Spiritomb used Taunt as Scizor was switching in.

Anyways, vs. Lunatone:

Ledian w/ Expert Belt
Bold/Swarm
255 Def./ 255 Sp. Atk.
+ Sunny Day
+ Solarbeam
+ Focus Blast
+ Light Screen

Lightscreeny to Sunnybeam may or may not work. I like Ledian.

 

[Kips]

It should work as Ledian has stellar Special Defense, even with the low HP, and Light Screen only makes it get better from there.

Dusclops @ Salac Berry
Ability: Pressure
(+Special Defense, - Special Attack)
EVs: 252 HP/200 Attack/52 Speed
-Rock Slide
-Natural Gift
-Shadow Sneak
-Pain Split

Rock Slide destroys you and your weak attacks can't penetrate my defenses. Shadow Sneak bypasses my terrible speed and Natural Gift makes the Salac Berry an 80BP Fighting move where it has great coverage with Shadow Sneak. Pain Split with my low HP is great and if I don't use the Salac I usually can get the speed boost needed for a Pain Split.

 

[Platypus]

Cool.

Vs. Dusclops:

Sudowoodo (Finally!)
Brave/Rock Head
255 Atk/ 200 HP/ 55 Speed
+ Thief
+ Wood Hammer
+ Rock Slide
+ Fling

Sudowoodo yanks the Salac Berry while inflicting massive pain. He then proceeds to beat the undead skull out of Dusclops.

 

[0RLY]

Well taunt only lasts 2-5 turns, and Spiritomb is pretty bulky and would take a while to kill.

@ Sudowoodo:

Aggron @ Toxic Orb
Rock Head/Adamant
252hp/252atk/6sp.def
-Iron head
-Fling
-Brick Break
-Shadow Claw

If you thief, Toxic Orb poisons you. Being a steel type, I cannot be poisoned. Flings the Toxic Orb at Bulkier foes. KOs with Iron Head.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Wasn't my Garchomp in the first place. W4M owns this thread we should see if he can change the rules on the front page then.

Wii4Mii is pretty much gone from SWF. You can find him on the Aethercide forums though.

How do I know? Because Aethercide is allied with my clan.

 

[Kips]

Well taunt only lasts 2-5 turns, and Spiritomb is pretty bulky and would take a while to kill.

@ Sudowoodo:

Aggron @ Toxic Orb
Rock Head/Adamant
252hp/252atk/6sp.def
-Iron head
-Fling
-Brick Break
-Shadow Claw

If you thief, Toxic Orb poisons you. Being a steel type, I cannot be poisoned. Flings the Toxic Orb at Bulkier foes. KOs with Iron Head.

Toxicroak @ Black Sludge
Ability: Dry Skin
Adamant Nature
6 HP/252 Attack/152 Speed/100 Defense
-Earthquake
-Sucker Punch
-Stone Edge
-Poison Jab

Can come in on Iron Head, Fling and Brick Break relatively well and should survive a Shadow Claw. OHKO's with Earthquake and has the rest of the moves for type coverage while Poison Jab provides a nice STAB.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Crap...is Suicune OU?

Suicune @ Leftovers
Modest/Pressure
252 Def/212 Sp Atk/46 Spd
~Extrasensory
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~HP Fighting

 

[ss118]

Spiritomb @ Magnet
Pressure: Modest
252 HP, 128 Sp. Attack, 128 Sp. defense
Hidden Power [Electric]
Nasty Plot
Rest
Sleep Talk

not much to countering it

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Lol...magnet.

Nidoking @ Leftovers
Adamant/Poison Point
252 HP/192 Spd/66 Atk
~Earthquake
~Taunt
~Toxic
~Sandstorm
SS+poison+taunt. I'm bored of this...MUST...PLAY...BRAWL!!

 

[0RLY]

@ Nidoking:

Crobat @ Black Sludge
Modest/Inner Focus
252sp.atk/252spe/6hp
-Air Slash
-Shadow Ball
-Substitute
-HP (Fight)

Sludge heals sandstorm damage. Subs behinds your useless attacks and blasts away.

 

[RedPeppers]

Crap...is Suicune OU?

Suicune @ Leftovers
Modest/Pressure
252 Def/212 Sp Atk/46 Spd
~Extrasensory
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~HP Fighting

Is Suicune OU? Haha right after the Garchomp, this is funny!

 

[Platypus]

Vs. Crobat:

Delcatty w/Chople Berry
Bold/Cute Charm
255 Def./ 255 Atk.
+ Doubleslap
+ Thunder
+ Thunder Wave
+ Grass Knot

I haven't been able to test it, but I believe that multiple attacks break Sub. If not, ignore this.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

@Platypus: Multiple hits do continue to hit after breaking sub.

 

[0RLY]

That Delcatty might work if those def EVs were placed into sp.def. 2 HP (fight) would KO you, and doubleslap followed by thunder has risky accuracy. 2 doubleslaps in a row does not have a chance to KO.

 

[Platypus]

My bad, I forgot that Air Slash and Hidden Power were Special...Therefore, I convert my Delcatty's Def. EVs to Sp. Def. and, with the Chople Berry in mind, commence with the countering.

Venusaur w/ Power Herb (look it up)
Bold/Overgrow
255 Atk./ 80 Sp. Atk./ 155 Def./ 20 Speed
+ Sludge Bomb
+ HP Ground
+ Solarbeam
+ Skull Bash

With no Defense investment, Delcatty dies quickly against Sludge Bomb.

 

[RedPeppers]

Are you even allowed to counter your own pokes?

 

[LightningKimba]

Hm... for Venusaur...

Ninetales @ Wide Lens
252 Sp. Atk/252 Sp. Def/6HP

Heat Wave
Hypnosis
Extrasensory
Nasty Plot

If luck serves me... That Venusaur is gone. And... Sorry about the Garchomp thing. I didn't noticed the thing about OU pokémon being taboo in this game...

 

[Kips]

Bibarel @ Leftovers
252 HP/100 Defense/100 Special Defense/52 Attack
Ability: Unaware
(+Attack, -Special Attack)
-Waterfall
-Super Fang
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

Rawr! Sleep Talk cancels out your Hypnosis, Unaware makes Nasty Plot do absolutely nothing and Waterfall and Super Fang crush you like an ant.

 

[0RLY]

Wait, before anybody continues countering... we should see what's up with Platypus countering himself.

Also, in Crobat's matchup against Delcatty, I believe Crobat would come out as the victor. Since Crobat starts out with a sub, and is obviously faster, Crobat should indefinetly be able to land the killing blow by the second turn. Also, two Air Slashes inflicts more damage than 2 HP (fight), factoring in chople berry. That gives me a 30% chance of flinching. In Delcatty's case, even if it could survive 2 turns, Thunder has 70% accuracy, and two Doubleslaps isn't enough to KO Crobat.

@ Venusaur: Sludge Bomb is special. Welcome to d/p. Time to forget about rsefrlg days.

 

[RedPeppers]

The games already moved on, lets just let it go. I think everyone should be a bit more careful about countering from now on though, it's seeming to get a little lax.
@ Lightning Kimba your Garchomp was technically legal, there was just kind of an unofficial rule change.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Bibarel @ Leftovers
252 HP/100 Defense/100 Special Defense/52 Attack
Ability: Unaware
(+Attack, -Special Attack)
-Waterfall
-Super Fang
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

Rawr! Sleep Talk cancels out your Hypnosis, Unaware makes Nasty Plot do absolutely nothing and Waterfall and Super Fang crush you like an ant.

Pikachu@Light Orb
252attck/252speed/4hp
Jolly
Ability: Static
Substitute
Brick Break
Volt Tackle
Quick Attack

Sub up on rest or just go straight for the kill with Volt Tackle.
Somehow I feel like crap using Pikachu for this

 

[Platypus]

Sorry.

Against Pikachu:
Sandslash w/ Quick Claw
Jolly/ Sand Veil
252 Atk./ 252 Def.
+ Poison Jab
+ Earthquake
+ Sandstorm
+ Rollout

Earthquake + Quick Claw.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Against Sandslash:
Lunatone@Leftovers
Modest/levitate
200 Hp/ 240 SpA/ 68 Spe
Ice Beam
Psychic
Hypnosis
Light Screen(don't ask, I just couldn't think of anything for the last move >.<)

Immunity to EQ and Sandstorm, resistant to Poison Jab and Rollout. Ice beam 2HKO's.

 

[Platypus]

'Sok, but Rollout is normally effective on Lunatone.

Corsola w/ Lum Berry
Adamant/ Hustle
50 Atk./ 202 Sp. Atk./ 252 Sp. Def.
+ Hydro Pump
+ Stone Edge
+ Ingrain
+ Aqua Ring

She's pretty lousy in terms of accuracy, but otherwise rocks.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Tropius @ Berry that reduces Rock type attacks
Bold/Chlorophyll
252 Def/212 Sp Atk/46 HP
~Leaf Storm
~Air Slash
~Leech Seed
~Roost

Leech saps away your Aqua Ring. Roost takes away my Rock weakness. Owns with Leaf Storm.

 

[jigglyppuff8]

@ Corsola
Emploleon @ Leftovers
Torrent
Modest (+sp. atk -atk)
252 HP/252 sp. atk/6 def
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Hidden Power [Grass]
~Roar

I don't need damage calculations to know that hidden power [grass] will eventually KO corsola. Corsola is really light so Grass Knot wouldn't have much application here. Empoleon resists all of corsola's attacks. Other moves are mainly filler.

EDIT: dang it beat by Terywj...

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Uh...I beat you to the counter jpp8, but Empoleon can counter my Tropius as well! Good job!

Also, hope to have some WiFi matches with you this weekend.

 

[0RLY]

@ Tropius:

Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Liquid Ooze/Calm
252hp/200sp.def/56sp.atk
-Toxic
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Barrier (I didn't want Toxic Spikes)

Sets up Barrier to defend my lower def stat. Special Wall with Toxic+Ice Beam for the KO. Liquid Ooze (or however you spell it) defends against your Leech Seed.

 

[MysticKenji]

WATCH THIS!

@ Tropius:

Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Liquid Ooze/Calm
252hp/200sp.def/56sp.atk
-Toxic
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Barrier (I didn't want Toxic Spikes)

Sets up Barrier to defend my lower def stat. Special Wall with Toxic+Ice Beam for the KO. Liquid Ooze (or however you spell it) defends against your Leech Seed.

Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Clear Body/Calm
252hp/200sp.def/56sp.atk
-Toxic
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-HP [Electric]

 

[0RLY]

>_> You're not supposed to reuse pokemon.

 

[RedPeppers]

Yeah, but admit that wasn't cool.

 

[Pink Reaper]

WATCH THIS!



Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Clear Body/Calm
252hp/200sp.def/56sp.atk
-Toxic
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-HP [Electric]

Electabuzz@life orb
Static/Adamant
252Atk/252speed/6Hp
Thunderpunch
Ice Punch
Cross Chop
Fire Punch

No fair, you used OU. Oh well, i figured I'd just counter you with a UU version of an OU

Fire punch in there cus Electabuzz cant learn EQ v.v

Life Orb Thunderpunch will more than likely OHKO, but even if it doesn't you fail to bring me down.

 

[0RLY]

@ Electabuzz:

Tauros @ Life Orb
Intimidate/Adamant
252atk/240spe/18hp
-Earthquake
-Return
-Rock Slide
-Zen Headbutt

Intimidate reduces your attack to an unimpressive level. Seeing as Thunderpunch is your only damaging option against the previous Tentacruel, and all three of your other attacks would land little to no damage on Tentacruel, I am safe from your other attacks. I target your low defense stat with the best physical ground attack.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Blargh you and your moderately higher speed

@Tauros
Typhlosion@Life Orb
Jolly/Blaze
252sp.atk/252speed/6hp
Eruption
Overheat
HP Grass
Focus Blast

Take THAT. My slightly higher speed lets me shoot of a life orb Eruption. Now bring on the special walls that Im sure will easily destroy this thing

 

[0RLY]

You do realize that you're switching into a SE Earthquake right?

 

[Pink Reaper]

Oh crap, I misread the rule

I feel like an idiot.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Hitmontop @ Life Orb
Jolly/Intimidate
252 Atk/252 Spd/6 Def
~Close Combat
~Stone Edge
~Pursuit
~Earthquake

At this point I'm not really caring if it works or not...

 

[Platypus]

There's a text pop-up ad for Close Combat now...That's going to get annoying.

Against Hitmontop:

Claydol w/Expert Belt
Hasty/Levitate
6 Def./ 252 Sp. Atk./ 252 Speed
+ Psychic
+ Shadow Ball
+ Cosmic Power
+ Skill Swap

Psychic leaves a mark.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Pikachu @ Light Ball
Timid/Static
252 Spd/252 Sp Atk/6 Sp Def
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-Thunder Wave
-Grass Knot

 

[IC3R]

@ Claydol

Drapion @ Scope Lens
Jolly / Sniper
EVs - 6 HP, 252 Att, 252 Spd
~Night Slash
~Brick Break
~Aerial Ace
~Swords Dance

Immune to Psychic, resist to Shadow Ball, and you can Skill Swap Levitate to me if you want--I like having no weaknesses. I can raise my Attack faster than you can raise your Defenses, and a lucky Night Slash will be the end of you.

Can you say "Pwnt?"

EDIT: Curse you, Terywj for being faster than me...