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I'd like to give Masahiro Sakurai more credit than your average forum flunkie.BIRDMAN22 said:They probably will. They are planing to add 10-15 more characters. Waluigi has a great chance of being in brawl even if the only reason is that the developers said to themselves: "well, we did add Wario........."
I read ( I think on wikipedia.org) that they're cousins.NukeA6 said:I have heard that Wario was a bully in Mario's childhood. I dunno if he's a plumber.
What classified them is major appearances in non-party games. Peach is Mario's girlfriend and appears in pretty much every game he does. Zelda has been in every pretty much every Zelda game to date. Ganondorf is the incarnation of Ganon, who has been Link's enemy in most games.BIRDMAN22 said:McFox
What classifies certain characters as major players. Peach was rarely playable in the many, many games she was in and just recently starred in a game. I'm not a LOZ fan but Zelda was never playable and the smash bros version of Ganondorf was only in one game (two if you count aged version in WW).
Waluigi is playable in PARTY games. Metaknight has appeared in most if not all Kirby games, and appears as Kirby's rival. You have to duel him in many Kirby games, and he's been playable in the recent Kirby games.Waluigi was at least playable (even if they were spin-off games). Even from the list metaknight(as cool as he will be) was never a star character nor the main villian so I don't get the title "major player"
"Nostalgic/BIT" players, meaning those who appeared briefly. Pichu is kind of a fluke anyway, since he was just a clone.As far as Nostaglic goes....Pichu really? Pichu was only in the game because of the Pichachu connection.
Wrong. I think he shouldn't be in because he's uninteresting and boring. It's not that he hasn't had his own game. It's that he hasn't even APPEARED in any one-player or major games. All he does is party appearances.Waluigi has grown a fan base that even you can see and even though he has been in a few games he still has a high level of mystery that many people would like to know more about. The most popular reason most people have stated about him not being included is that he hasn't had his own game.
That's because he was a major star (<- pun) in one of the best games of all time.Neither did Geno but you and many others still want him in the game,
Also appeared as the main antagonist in one of the best games of all time, not to mention being in Ocarina of Time and having been confirmed to be in Twilight Princess (as he was spotted in the trailer).same goes for skull kid.
Yes, but why would SAKURAI include a character whom he's never worked with, on the basis of "He's Wario's brother"? WARIO has had two separate successful series, while Waluigi hasn't even appeared in either one. The fact that he's not in the Warioware series says wonders that Nintendo isn't concerned with Waluigi being joined at the hip to Wario.The fact is everyone has characters that they want to see in the game and some that they don't want to see in the game. He still has a high chance of being included because nintendo and SAKURAI will lean more towards Mario characters than any other nintendo characters (which is evident).
No, it doesn't. I'd much rather **** Dastardly just appear himself than have his crappy clone.Besides, how can you call Waluigi boring. He is the reincarnation of that dudley do right villian and that alone warrants an appearance in brawl alongside his partner in crime, Wario.
I thought they were half brothers...primusfan said:I read ( I think on wikipedia.org) that they're cousins.
That's to much hate for me to even argue. I bow gracefully.McFox said:No, it doesn't. I'd much rather **** Dastardly just appear himself than have his crappy clone.
Sakurai already knows who Waluigi is. He has a trophy in Smash Bros, remember? ...not that it increases Waluigi's chances at all. If Sakurai wants another Wario character, he'll probably continue to use Wario Ware characters for that, given that there are more than enough Mario-franchise exclusive characters (of which Waluigi is ironically one of). Mona (who always seems to get at least second bidding to Wario in the games far as I can tell and is also female, which I think Sakurai wants more of) comes to mind.McFox said:Random person: How about this for a character... Waluigi!
Sakurai: Well who is he?
Random person: Well, he wears the same suit as Wario, Mario, and Luigi, but it's purple!
Sakurai: ...uh-huh.
Random person: And he's Wario's brother!
Sakurai: Well, what does he do?
Random person: ...He throws Bob-ombs!
Sakurai: ...Anything else?
Random person: He holds a Piranha plant. But he's also evil and mysterious!
Sakurai: ...riiight..
his taunt has to be the crotch chop lol, that was the best taunt ever in a nintendo game for me lol, anyways reason i think Waluigi is in is for he wasn't on sakurais suggested character list, and i'm pretty sure he was definently suggested, also as said earlier on in the thread, the moderate fan base of his could help him get in, and also i think i read he had a high percentage on the nintendo power poll, if this is all true then his chances of being in brawl are really hightoasty4you said:This is a brilliant idea! I wonder what his taunt would be?
No longer bowing.McFox said:Nintendo Power Poll = who cares? I doubt Sakurai is looking to Nintendo Power for ideas. I doubt he checks this topic, either.
Do you have a real reason why Pichu or Doc where in melee, and none of that nostaglic stuff either. Doc only had one or two games that were Tetris ripoffs. I can't see how he would have developed a fanbase from that. Melee came out before I joined this forum but I can't imagine people were saying " lets have a younger version of link with the exact same moveset" but it happened.McFox said:I've been reading this topic since its first post, and I have yet to see any REAL reason Waluigi should be in the game.
Exactly. Why he does what he does is a mystery to us all. That is a reason he shold be in brawl. nintendo can use this as an opportunity to expand on his character. The can shed a little more light on his background or his relationship to other mushroom kingdom inhabitants. Just because you're against his addition dosen't mean we all should be. Some of us are looking forward to his inclusion to the smash bros roster.McFox said:The closest thing to that is that he holds a Piranha plant (why is anyone's guess)
Sakurai running out of time but wanting more characters so he slapped together some quickie clones for Melee sounds like a reasonable enough reason to me.BIRDMAN22 said:Do you have a real reason why Pichu or Doc where in melee, and none of that nostaglic stuff either.
1st paragraph- There are other characters that a lot of people want to see, about 1/3 of the people in here came to solely prove to you that Waluigi in Brawl would be a waste.BIRDMAN22 said:Even if he dosen't check either one he is still going to listen to the fans and a lot of people would like to see Waluigi in brawl (even if only for an event match).
Do you have a real reason why Pichu or Doc where in melee, and none of that nostaglic stuff either. Doc only had one or two games that were Tetris ripoffs. I can't see how he would have developed a fanbase from that.
Exactly. Why he does what he does is a mystery to us all. That is a reason he shold be in brawl. nintendo can use this as an opportunity to expand on his character. The can shed a little more light on his background or his relationship to other mushroom kingdom inhabitants. Just because you're against his addition dosen't mean we all should be. Some of us are looking forward to his inclusion to the smash bros roster.
That reason alone gives Waluigi a chance of being in brawl.Tiamat said:Sakurai running out of time but wanting more characters so he slapped together some quickie clones for Melee sounds like a reasonable enough reason to me.
The same goes for almost every character thread in this forum. There will always be haters.Marshigio said:1st paragraph- There are other characters that a lot of people want to see, about 1/3 of the people in here came to solely prove to you that Waluigi in Brawl would be a waste.
This obsession with the plant proves that there is a lot about Waluigi that is unknown, which(again) is why he should be included. That or people have any uncanny fascination with plants.Marshigio said:3rd paragraph- Yes, I can just imagine everyone now. "I can't wait to play Brawl and find out why Waluigi is holding a plant" No one would care if he's holding that plant, it doesn't give him personality either other than just being a plant abuser.
If adding a little depth to a character isn't good enough then I give up. Who knows, they might have an upcoming game for him like the did the FE crew.McFox said:Hey, if they want to slap Waluigi in as a clone at the last minute (as per your two examples), then whatever. I'd still rather other characters become clones, but if they're not wasting valuable development time on him, then it's cool with me.
So far, every time you've said "Well why did they add X character?", you've listed a clone.
Still waiting for a good, solid reason.
He would be a Sand bag clone.Marshigio said:Who would Waluigi be a clone of?
For the record, I didn't originally bring up the plant thing. I really didn't know he carried it till today. I'm not a Mario Party fan, I just would like to see certain characters in the game. I'm only voicing my opinion.Marshigio said:BIRDMAN, come on, I know you're smarter than this.
I've given reasons on why he shouldn't be in Brawl, not just spamming like a hater would. Can't you come up with something good? I mean come on, him holding a plant is a reason he should be in Brawl?
Brawl isn't a game to find out about Waluigi's history, because it's not very story-driven.
Honestly, that was hilariousTiamat said:Waluigi's supposed obsession of a pirahna plant shows that he is an ecological man. Behind this symbolism is potentially the key to the past of a torn soul who has travelled beyond the depths of the earth to find what is causing the slow and dying decay of the mushroom kingdom. Oh woe to this person and his selfless tale, for he has gone on to find that his lover had deserted him for an evil demon that threatened the nether dimension. Saving the nether dimension, Waluigi has discovered that there is more to life than just the nether but that there is a greater picture as a whole. He takes a pencil and 5 years of art class (where he entered into a hilarious sit-com with five other students Mandy, Yogarn, Mistletoe, Applebee, and Joey, before their show was finally cancelled on July 18, 1997) and learns to draw, and then he creates this bigger picture. Furious with his inadequacy after he was betrayed by his cousin, he throws it into a garbage dump. It was there where he found a pirahna plant, put it into a pot, and carried it for two seconds. During these two seconds, Daisy took a picture of him with her camera and spread it around the world as promo art for a Mario Party game. And thus a legend was born.
It is a legend which you will only see if Waluigi makes it into Smash Bros. Brawl. People, don't miss out on this chance for enlightenment!
July 18th is my birthday.Tiamat said:Waluigi's supposed obsession of a pirahna plant shows that he is an ecological man. Behind this symbolism is potentially the key to the past of a torn soul who has travelled beyond the depths of the earth to find what is causing the slow and dying decay of the mushroom kingdom. Oh woe to this person and his selfless tale, for he has gone on to find that his lover had deserted him for an evil demon that threatened the nether dimension. Saving the nether dimension, Waluigi has discovered that there is more to life than just the nether but that there is a greater picture as a whole. He takes a pencil and 5 years of art class (where he entered into a hilarious sit-com with five other students Mandy, Yogarn, Mistletoe, Applebee, and Joey, before their show was finally cancelled on July 18, 1997) and learns to draw, and then he creates this bigger picture. Furious with his inadequacy after he was betrayed by his cousin, he throws it into a garbage dump. It was there where he found a pirahna plant, put it into a pot, and carried it for two seconds. During these two seconds, Daisy took a picture of him with her camera and spread it around the world as promo art for a Mario Party game. And thus a legend was born.
It is a legend which you will only see if Waluigi makes it into Smash Bros. Brawl. People, don't miss out on this chance for enlightenment!