The Official Thread For the Sal Romano/Gematsu Leak

[JCDied4U]

You thinking Kid icarus is bad doesn't mean others do. Deal with it.

I never said it was bad, just dumb, but in no way does it deserve 3 reps. We should get Paper Mario, K Rool, Ridley, and two or more reps for all the other franchises first.

 

[Spazzy_D]

you know, I still stand by the fact that every char on the combined leak list, after the first 3 and not including "Chorus Men", is easily guessable and cast just about the widest possible net of newcomers for guessing...

Even if they were easy guesses (and I don't think they were, for a variety of reasons) that's not the point. The point is he got 8/11 right and none wrong. The sum is greater then the parts here.

If Dark Pit is a stand alone character I'll be extremely mad. We don't need 3 characters from that dumb franchise just because it's Sakurai's new baby.

I wanted to like this post because I think Dark Pit would be a wasted slot, but I actually like Kid Icarus so BOOOOO!

 

[Maxilian]

If Dark Pit is a stand alone character I'll be extremely mad. We don't need 3 characters from that dumb franchise just because it's Sakurai's new baby.

I agree that we don't need 3 character for Kid Icarus (at least not yet) but i wouldn't call it dumb, i mean... the game is good and the character are pretty well done (The game is not better cause the controls are a little.... weird)

 

[Spazzy_D]

The biggest thing is that Dark Pit would be a disappointing choice if the franchise did have 3 reps. I can not fathom anyone but Medusa or Hades being the third, actually.

Also, even though I am a huge Kid Icarus fan and I'm not too big on Donkey Kong Country, having 3 KI reps and no knew DKC reps would be a slap in the face to that series.

Character choices don't have much to do with this leak now, especially since we are done to 3 characters left unrevealed.

 

[Zwzchow]

I agree that we don't need 3 character for Kid Icarus (at least not yet) but i wouldn't call it dumb, i mean... the game is good and the character are pretty well done (The game is not better cause the controls are a little.... weird)

It's a game by Sakurai, buy it

Yes and although I really like KI, I sense that Dark Pit will just be quite a clone.
This leak is becoming true with every major news update and there's only Chorus Men, Chrom and Shulk.

A rhythm heaven character should be a given by now. (There wouldn't be a random RH enemy in smash run for no reason)
This roster is actually fine with me I don't get why people are pissed over no Mewtwo, Ridley and K Rool

 

[Maxilian]

I never said it was bad, just dumb, but in no way does it deserve 3 reps. We should get Paper Mario, K Rool, Ridley, and two or more reps for all the other franchises first.

Or get someone from a new franchise!

Also part of me don't want Paper Mario but mainly because i don't want to have the same problem that we had in Mario Kart, the roster feel way too repetitive.... (7 koopalings, want it or not they all feel the same, 2 of every characters -normal and baby- and 3 types of 2 characters (Mario and Peach - Normal, Baby and Metal-), at least Smash have only 3 "repeated" characters, Zelda, Link and Samus but Samus and ZSS looks so different that it doesn't feel weird (the same with Zelda)

The biggest thing is that Dark Pit would be a disappointing choice if the franchise did have 3 reps. I can not fathom anyone but Medusa or Hades being the third, actually.

Also, even though I am a huge Kid Icarus fan and I'm not too big on Donkey Kong Country, having 3 KI reps and no knew DKC reps would be a slap in the face to that series.

Character choices don't have much to do with this leak now, especially since we are done to 3 characters left unrevealed.

I agree, DK should get a new character first than Kid Icarus, IMO Dark Pit should be a "special" skin for Pit (with darker effects on the attacks and different voice and eye's color)

Edit:

It's a game by Sakurai, buy it

Yes and although I really like KI, I sense that Dark Pit will just be quite a clone.
This leak is becoming true with every major news update and there's only Chorus Men, Chrom and Shulk.

A rhythm heaven character should be a given by now. (There wouldn't be a random RH enemy in smash run for no reason)
This roster is actually fine with me I don't get why people are pissed over no Mewtwo, Ridley and K Rool

I already have it thanks

Well... i know that, and i already assume that Chorus kids (Marshall) is already in the game (same with Chrom and Shulk).

Hmmm.... I'm not really pissed over no Mewtwo, Ridley or K.K Rool, but i just feel that we didn't got any big Nintendo character (the only big characters that we got were Pac-man and Megaman -3rd parties-) and maybe Palutena.... but meeeeh i'm ok with these roster (I WANT MORE! but i will survive if i don't get anything else )

 

[Maxilian]

Double post sorry

 

[Zwzchow]

I agree, DK should get a new character first than Kid Icarus, IMO Dark Pit should be a "special" skin for Pit (with darker effects on the attacks and different voice and eye's color)
I already have it thanks

Well... i know that, and i already assume that Chorus kids (Marshall) is already in the game (same with Chrom and Shulk).

Hmmm.... I'm not really pissed over no Mewtwo, Ridley or K.K Rool, but i just feel that we didn't got any big Nintendo character (the only big characters that we got were Pac-man and Megaman -3rd parties-) and maybe Palutena.... but meeeeh i'm ok with these roster (I WANT MORE! but i will survive if i don't get anything else )

Yep an alternate costume should work for Dark Pit.

The fanservice shall never be satiated XD

We already have Mega Man, Little Mac and to a lesser extent Palutena and Pacman. People will always demand for more :3

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I don't get why people are pissed over no Mewtwo, Ridley and K Rool

Because they really wanted them? Because what we got might be poor consolation for missing out on what they actually wanted?

It's not a difficult concept to understand.

I don't get why some people feel everyone should appreciate what we got regardless of whether they wanted them in the first place.

 

[TheAnvil]

Even Palutena was pushing it tbh. Dark Pitt would be like a giant kick in the nards.

 

[Neo Zero]

I'm sure we won't see Sal until the next direct, but has he ever tried asking his source for more clarification on some of the things he says, or even asking about other characters (Dark Pit would be a good one to ask about right now for sure)

 

[Maxilian]

Yep an alternate costume should work for Dark Pit.

The fanservice shall never be satiated XD

We already have Mega Man, Little Mac and to a lesser extent Palutena and Pacman. People will always demand for more :3

That's true, but remenber that some people were expecting those characters, for example: the people that were expecting Palutena only... they are happy already, the most likely don't care about the roster anymore (maybe for the veterans but not new characters), but those that have been expecting Ridley since the beggining... well they are still expecting him and really want him, if he gets in, those who were expecting will be happy, but you're right, is not possible to make everyone happy, but that's not because they are expecting a lot, is because too many people are expecting different things and want it or not, you can't give them all what they want, and that's not because you don't want... is just because you can't

 

[Fenrir VII]

Even if they were easy guesses (and I don't think they were, for a variety of reasons) that's not the point. The point is he got 8/11 right and none wrong. The sum is greater then the parts here.

This entire time I've been basing my opinion of the leak that the leaker knew the first 3 and the other chars were thrown on there to screw with us. I made this opinion because the first 3 were nearly impossible to guess and the others (save "Chrous Men") were a range of the most obvious choices that could be in the game. That has always bothered me about the leak.

so disregarding the first three and Chorus Men, who exactly is hard to guess? I mean, if you assume that the leak was a guess of a bunch of chars (with no penalty of the chars NOT being in the game because the final roster is unknown, and they're unlikely to be deconfirmed), what kind of list would YOU put together?

-Mii: They've been in EVERY Nintendo family/party game at a higher rate than they were before Brawl. Even the people who didn't want them (including me) acknowledged that they were likely.

-Pac-Man: Like I said, this was EVERYBODY's first thought when we learned about Namco developing the game

-Little Mac: Highly requested and expected since Punch Out Wii..

-Pokemon from X and Y: This falls into "Well duh" territory. There has been a new pokemon in EVERY smash game, and X/Y were brand new. Sakurai also hinted at an X/Y announcement in the PotD.

-Palutena: Again I submit that this is the most easily guessable char inclusion in the entire game, for a huge number of reasons. Any fake leaker that didn't include her was an idiot, imo.

-Shulk: Xenoblade was a huge new franchise and Smash is a marketing tool. The likelihood of this guess was also increased with the timing of the Xenoblade creator tweeting about the Smash Direct BEFORE the new leaked chars came out.

-Chrom: The trend since Melee has been that the Lord of the newest FE game is included. Chrom is an easy guess, especially when Ike wasn't confirmed.

Go back to the timing of the Smash direct, and have everybody make a list of 8 chars that they expect (not want), and I imagine the list would look VERY similar to this one, with a few other chars like Ridley and K Rool thrown in at times. My expected list would probably have included every one of these


What I've been saying this whole time (and I said when the betternet leak got a few things in a row right) is that the inclusion of an obvious character doesn't exactly do anything to the validity of a leak... The first 3 were nearly impossible to guess. I give you that. The others just...aren't. I still say if Marshal/Chorus Men is revealed, that seals it for me, but NO OTHER char from this list does.

Think about it, if it were all a guess past the first 3, it doesn't HURT the leak to include a bunch of chars to be safe and get a few right, knowing that there's a low probability of Shulk/Chrom/etc being downright deconfirmed any time soon.

 

[Shroob]

This entire time I've been basing my opinion of the leak that the leaker knew the first 3 and the other chars were thrown on there to screw with us. I made this opinion because the first 3 were nearly impossible to guess and the others (save "Chrous Men") were a range of the most obvious choices that could be in the game. That has always bothered me about the leak.

so disregarding the first three and Chorus Men, who exactly is hard to guess? I mean, if you assume that the leak was a guess of a bunch of chars (with no penalty of the chars NOT being in the game because the final roster is unknown, and they're unlikely to be deconfirmed), what kind of list would YOU put together?

-Mii: They've been in EVERY Nintendo family/party game at a higher rate than they were before Brawl. Even the people who didn't want them (including me) acknowledged that they were likely.

-Pac-Man: Like I said, this was EVERYBODY's first thought when we learned about Namco developing the game

-Little Mac: Highly requested and expected since Punch Out Wii..

-Pokemon from X and Y: This falls into "Well duh" territory. There has been a new pokemon in EVERY smash game, and X/Y were brand new. Sakurai also hinted at an X/Y announcement in the PotD.

-Palutena: Again I submit that this is the most easily guessable char inclusion in the entire game, for a huge number of reasons. Any fake leaker that didn't include her was an idiot, imo.

-Shulk: Xenoblade was a huge new franchise and Smash is a marketing tool. The likelihood of this guess was also increased with the timing of the Xenoblade creator tweeting about the Smash Direct BEFORE the new leaked chars came out.

-Chrom: The trend since Melee has been that the Lord of the newest FE game is included. Chrom is an easy guess, especially when Ike wasn't confirmed.

Go back to the timing of the Smash direct, and have everybody make a list of 8 chars that they expect (not want), and I imagine the list would look VERY similar to this one, with a few other chars like Ridley and K Rool thrown in at times. My expected list would probably have included every one of these


What I've been saying this whole time (and I said when the betternet leak got a few things in a row right) is that the inclusion of an obvious character doesn't exactly do anything to the validity of a leak... The first 3 were nearly impossible to guess. I give you that. The others just...aren't. I still say if Marshal/Chorus Men is revealed, that seals it for me, but NO OTHER char from this list does.

Think about it, if it were all a guess past the first 3, it doesn't HURT the leak to include a bunch of chars to be safe and get a few right, knowing that there's a low probability of Shulk/Chrom/etc being downright deconfirmed any time soon.

So, how do you explain the Rhythm Heaven enemy in Smash run then? Only franchises with playable characters barring Smash exclusive things have enemies present.

 

[Fatmanonice]

My personal thoughts on the Gematsu Leak:

Pros:

-All my favorite Brawl characters came back (Mario, Fox, Ness, Ice Climbers, Wario, King Dedede, and Ike).
-Got 2 of my top 3 most wanted characters (Little Mac and Megaman, leaving out Takamaru)
-Confirmation of DLC
-Lots of new franchises represented

Cons:

-I'm a little bummed about Lucas
-Only got 3 of 10 on my personal wishlist (Little Mac, Megaman, and Palutena with Ashley and Waluigi already confirmed as ATs)
-Not a lot of love for older franchises
-Aside from maybe one or two characters, the DLC will probably be severely underwhelming.

I think we'll be in for 4-6 DLC characters but I only think maybe 1 or 2 of them will actually be original with the rest being semiclones. The reason I think this is because, as someone pointed out earlier, we have yet to have any new semiclones and all the newcomers appear to be completely original characters. There's a slight chance that Chrom might be a Marth/Ike semiclone but I seriously doubt it at this point, especially with the chances of Shulk and Chorus Men being semiclones being virtually nonexistent. Melee had 6 clones (Dr. Mario, Falco, Pichu, Ganondorf, Young Link, and Roy) and 1 semiclone (Luigi) and Brawl had 6 semiclones (Luigi, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Falco, Wolf, and Lucas). When you consider this, it seems like a glaring omission.

I think the character choices will be decent enough. Dixie, Lucina, Tetra, and Toon Zelda are four that come immediately to mind for new additions. I can also see Roy, Lucas, and Dark Pit being possibilities too. All of these however, would probably be semiclones to some degree so I can't help that I would be a little disappointed with their arrival, kind of like when I discovered that Ganondorf, Falco, and Young Link weren't completely original in Melee. As I said, 1 or 2 would probably be cash grabs and I could easily see this being filled by characters like Mewtwo, K. Rool, and Ridley, characters that everyone and their grandma would probably buy even if they cost 10 bucks each. This all being said, I'm not very optimistic about the DLC prospects.

 

[Spazzy_D]

This entire time I've been basing my opinion of the leak that the leaker knew the first 3 and the other chars were thrown on there to screw with us. I made this opinion because the first 3 were nearly impossible to guess and the others (save "Chrous Men") were a range of the most obvious choices that could be in the game. That has always bothered me about the leak.

so disregarding the first three and Chorus Men, who exactly is hard to guess? I mean, if you assume that the leak was a guess of a bunch of chars (with no penalty of the chars NOT being in the game because the final roster is unknown, and they're unlikely to be deconfirmed), what kind of list would YOU put together?

-Mii: They've been in EVERY Nintendo family/party game at a higher rate than they were before Brawl. Even the people who didn't want them (including me) acknowledged that they were likely.

-Pac-Man: Like I said, this was EVERYBODY's first thought when we learned about Namco developing the game

-Little Mac: Highly requested and expected since Punch Out Wii..

-Pokemon from X and Y: This falls into "Well duh" territory. There has been a new pokemon in EVERY smash game, and X/Y were brand new. Sakurai also hinted at an X/Y announcement in the PotD.

-Palutena: Again I submit that this is the most easily guessable char inclusion in the entire game, for a huge number of reasons. Any fake leaker that didn't include her was an idiot, imo.

-Shulk: Xenoblade was a huge new franchise and Smash is a marketing tool. The likelihood of this guess was also increased with the timing of the Xenoblade creator tweeting about the Smash Direct BEFORE the new leaked chars came out.

-Chrom: The trend since Melee has been that the Lord of the newest FE game is included. Chrom is an easy guess, especially when Ike wasn't confirmed.

Go back to the timing of the Smash direct, and have everybody make a list of 8 chars that they expect (not want), and I imagine the list would look VERY similar to this one, with a few other chars like Ridley and K Rool thrown in at times. My expected list would probably have included every one of these


What I've been saying this whole time (and I said when the betternet leak got a few things in a row right) is that the inclusion of an obvious character doesn't exactly do anything to the validity of a leak... The first 3 were nearly impossible to guess. I give you that. The others just...aren't. I still say if Marshal/Chorus Men is revealed, that seals it for me, but NO OTHER char from this list does.

Think about it, if it were all a guess past the first 3, it doesn't HURT the leak to include a bunch of chars to be safe and get a few right, knowing that there's a low probability of Shulk/Chrom/etc being downright deconfirmed any time soon.

I don't think you're getting my point. Many people have tried to guess or predict the roster and only one of those guesses (this leak) have withstood the year of info we've gotten. What lends him credibility is that he hasn't had one of his "guesses" turn out as fake.

On top of that most leaks and fan rosters had actually discounted a playable X/Y Pokémon in favor of Mewtwo returning. Not all mind you, but it was the safe and popular pick. (For the record, I would not have counted Mewtwo X or Y as being a Pokémon from X or Y.)

 

[Neo Zero]

So, how do you explain the Rhythm Heaven enemy in Smash run then? Only franchises with playable characters barring Smash exclusive things have enemies present.

Not the point, but I still think it's more interesting how we haven't seen any sign of any Mechons in Smash Run. I mean a weird ghost from a rhythm game is pretty weird, regardless of a Rhythm Heaven rep, but a RPG robot not being there is....pretty weird. Of course, Fire Emblem doesnt seem to have anything, nor Punch Out to name a few, but it's something interesting to keep in mind.

I will say though, I don't think there's any rules concerning Sm4sh run representation, just like I don't think there are any roster rules regarding reps. It's of course probably not a coincidence, but I could see it just being one as well.

 

[Shroob]

My personal thoughts on the Gematsu Leak:

Pros:

-All my favorite Brawl characters came back (Mario, Fox, Ness, Ice Climbers, Wario, King Dedede, and Ike).
-Got 2 of my top 3 most wanted characters (Little Mac and Megaman, leaving out Takamaru)
-Confirmation of DLC
-Lots of new franchises represented

Cons:

-I'm a little bummed about Lucas
-Only got 3 of 10 on my personal wishlist (Little Mac, Megaman, and Palutena with Ashley and Waluigi already confirmed as ATs)
-Not a lot of love for older franchises
-Aside from maybe one or two characters, the DLC will probably be severely underwhelming.

I think we'll be in for 4-6 DLC characters but I only think maybe 1 or 2 of them will actually be original with the rest being semiclones. The reason I think this is because, as someone pointed out earlier, we have yet to have any new semiclones and all the newcomers appear to be completely original characters. There's a slight chance that Chrom might be a Marth/Ike semiclone but I seriously doubt it at this point, especially with the chances of Shulk and Chorus Men being semiclones being virtually nonexistent. Melee had 6 clones (Dr. Mario, Falco, Pichu, Ganondorf, Young Link, and Roy) and 1 semiclone (Luigi) and Brawl had 6 semiclones (Luigi, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Falco, Wolf, and Lucas). When you consider this, it seems like a glaring omission.

I think the character choices will be decent enough. Dixie, Lucina, Tetra, and Toon Zelda are four that come immediately to mind for new additions. I can also see Roy, Lucas, and Dark Pit being possibilities too. All of these however, would probably be semiclones to some degree so I can't help that I would be a little disappointed with their arrival, kind of like when I discovered that Ganondorf, Falco, and Young Link weren't completely original in Melee. As I said, 1 or 2 would probably be cash grabs and I could easily see this being filled by characters like Mewtwo, K. Rool, and Ridley, characters that everyone and their grandma would probably buy even if they cost 10 bucks each. This all being said, I'm not very optimistic about the DLC prospects.

I'd like to raise a point.

The thing about older franchises I feel... is that for the most part, outside of a few anomalies, Brawl covered the basics of who you'd want in Smash, and Smash4 built on top of that. Yes, Ridley, K.Rool, Dixie, etc could be additions, but as it stands, the roster to me, if it's 47 characters, is fairly solid in the 'all-stars' department.

Unless, you meant retro franchises.

 

[Neo Zero]

One thing I like is how even now, Nintendo still has new IPs they can draw from. If anything, that's a good thing, it shows that these great newer ips belong with the old classics, and that they deserve to be there. If it was nothing but stuff from the 90's, it would suggest the company would be in trouble of stagnation.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Unless, you meant retro franchises.

A little of both. I think there's a lot of characters that having been "waiting their turn" since the Melee days and I think there's some decent retro prospects not looked into yet.

 

[Ultinarok]

So the Gematsu leak convinced me to look up Rhythm Heaven, because I had no idea it even existed, who the Chorus Men the leak spoke of were, or anything about it until I read these forums. And I think I support Marshall being in (over the Chorus Men, as he seems to fit better and make more sense). Rhythm Heaven has three games, is made entirely by Nintendo, and has done well in sales and reviews. I see no reason why it shouldn't be in.

In fact, I've ended up being pleased with every newcomer minus Mii Fighter more than I ever thought I would. I was totally on the K. Rool/Ridley bandwagon and whatnot like everyone else, but suddenly I find myself being gungho for a Rhythm Heaven rep, Pac-Man and Wii Fit Trainer.

Two years ago, I would've been appalled at these ideas. How Sakurai can change someone's mind...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

A little of both. I think there's a lot of characters that having been "waiting their turn" since the Melee days and I think there's some decent retro prospects not looked into yet.

This is totally random

But after seeing a whole bunch of fake character reveal pictures with the little pun lines, then coming to this thread

I came up with as your smash reveal tag line:

Fatman
Breaks the ice

Edit:

OR simply

Fatman
Breaks through

 

[Shroob]

A little of both. I think there's a lot of characters that having been "waiting their turn" since the Melee days and I think there's some decent retro prospects not looked into yet.

I agree, to a degree.... I'm also going to miss Lucas too. :S

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I'm sure we won't see Sal until the next direct, but has he ever tried asking his source for more clarification on some of the things he says, or even asking about other characters (Dark Pit would be a good one to ask about right now for sure)

I don't think we'll see him again.

 

[DangerDamage]

If that 48/4 leaks ends up true (With the news of Lucas, possibly will be.), that means there would be 1 left out correct?

I believe Captain Rainbow will probably be in based on the fact he is popular in Japan and Fat Mac from Captain Rainbow is in.

As for DLC, assuming it'll just be a stage or something and I personally don't feel it would cost money but then again Nintendo has recently done that.

I really like the leak anyway, just wish Mewtwo would be in :/

 

[Fenrir VII]

I don't think you're getting my point. Many people have tried to guess or predict the roster and only one of those guesses (this leak) have withstood the year of info we've gotten. What lends him credibility is that he hasn't had one of his "guesses" turn out as fake.

On top of that most leaks and fan rosters had actually discounted a playable X/Y Pokémon in favor of Mewtwo returning. Not all mind you, but it was the safe and popular pick. (For the record, I would not have counted Mewtwo X or Y as being a Pokémon from X or Y.)

I was responding to the 2 points that you made in your post.

"Even if they were easy guesses (and I don't think they were, for a variety of reasons)"
-How were they hard guesses? I explained why I think they weren't.

"The point is he got 8/11 right and none wrong."
-my point is aside from the first 3, none of the others matter because he could have easily guessed a net of chars and catch MOST possible newcomers (This would also explain the miss of Rosa). The chars he guessed (save the ones I've mentioned) were all VERY likely, and VERY UNLIKELY to be outright deconfirmed... meaning he was very unlikely to get any "wrong"... at least, we likely wouldn't know until the final roster is released (this was also true with the betternet leak, until they did get something wrong, but I can't remember what)

 

[Spazzy_D]

I was responding to the 2 points that you made in your post.

"Even if they were easy guesses (and I don't think they were, for a variety of reasons)"
-How were they hard guesses? I explained why I think they weren't.

"The point is he got 8/11 right and none wrong."
-my point is aside from the first 3, none of the others matter because he could have easily guessed a net of chars and catch MOST possible newcomers (This would also explain the miss of Rosa). The chars he guessed (save the ones I've mentioned) were all VERY likely, and VERY UNLIKELY to be outright deconfirmed... meaning he was very unlikely to get any "wrong"... at least, we likely wouldn't know until the final roster is released (this was also true with the betternet leak, until they did get something wrong, but I can't remember what)

That's not true though. No one else has done that, it's not easy.

 

[Zwzchow]

One thing I like is how even now, Nintendo still has new IPs they can draw from. If anything, that's a good thing, it shows that these great newer ips belong with the old classics, and that they deserve to be there. If it was nothing but stuff from the 90's, it would suggest the company would be in trouble of stagnation.

Precisely why we should include a greater number of new IPs
(Code Name STEAM for Smash 5 :3)

 

[egaddmario]

I don't understand why people keep saying his leaks were obvious and that's why he's fake. Look at Brawl- if i leaked Diddy Kong, Dedede, Olimar, and Pokemon Trainer, people would've said my leak was too obvious and only had one odd-ball pick. But the fact of the matter is, a pokemon from x/y, palutena, chrom, and shulk are obvious picks because they ARE obvious- they're wanted, even expected. That doesn't make them fake- it makes them highly likely because those character are new and/or well received. And Chorus Men being there is the odd-ball because no one thought of it. And that doesn't mean it's fake either. Just look at the facts- he's 8/11. And with a rhythm heaven enemy in smash run and arena ferox, he's basically 10/11. Just face facts- Sal has inside info. Some of that info might seem obvious because even to Sakurai, IT IS.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Precisely why we should include a greater number of new IPs
(Code Name STEAM for Smash 5 :3)

Sakurai considers the wii u version smash 5

The 3DS version smash 4

 

[TheAnvil]

So I wonder if Smash 6 job posting ties into the post-launch character DLC.

 

[Deathcarter]

I have a few questions about this whole leak deal:

1. If he had up to date information on the name of Mii Fighter as well as information on Lucas and DLC, shouldn't he have leaked some information about the amiibo figurines? The leak about DLC means his leaks are no longer limited purely to newcomers and if he had up to date information about the name of the Mii he should of had info about the amiibos since they were a part of the same presentation as the Miis and sounded just as important as any potential DLC (if not more so).

2. In the event that Marshall or any other Rhythm Heaven character were revealed over Chorus Men, doesn't that technically mean the leak (or at least the second one) is bull****? How would another character aside from Chorus Men being revealed be proof of the leak's credibility? Another character getting in over Sakurai doesn't necessarily mean he originally planned Chorus Men and then later put in another RH character for whatever reason. Not an argument against the leak itself but against its defenders.

3. How does the leaker not know Greninja if he was decided on very early on in development but stayed around long enough that he had information on which newcomers were being planned for E3 2013? Did Game Freak take a really long time finishing the concept of Greninja or does Nintendo prepare for E3 waaaay in advance?

 

[Shroob]

I have a few questions about this whole leak deal:

1. If he had up to date information on the name of Mii Fighter as well as information on Lucas and DLC, shouldn't he have leaked some information about the amiibo figurines? The leak about DLC means his leaks are no longer limited purely to newcomers and if he had up to date information about the name of the Mii he should of had info about the amiibos since they were a part of the same presentation as the Miis and sounded just as important as any potential DLC (if not more so).

2. In the event that Marshall or any other Rhythm Heaven character were revealed over Chorus Men, doesn't that technically mean the leak (or at least the second one) is bull****? How would another character aside from Chorus Men being revealed be proof of the leak's credibility? Another character getting in over Sakurai doesn't necessarily mean he originally planned Chorus Men and then later put in another RH character for whatever reason. Not an argument against the leak itself but against its defenders.

3. How does the leaker not know Greninja if he was decided on very early on in development but stayed around long enough that he had information on which newcomers were being planned for E3 2013? Did Game Freak take a really long time finishing the concept of Greninja or does Nintendo prepare for E3 waaaay in advance?

The second point, one could argue that Marshal and the Chorus Men are very similar in design, but if Marshal gets in over the Chorus Man, but both Shulk and Chrom are playable, I have a hard time saying the leak was fake.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I have a few questions about this whole leak deal:

1. If he had up to date information on the name of Mii Fighter as well as information on Lucas and DLC, shouldn't he have leaked some information about the amiibo figurines? The leak about DLC means his leaks are no longer limited purely to newcomers and if he had up to date information about the name of the Mii he should of had info about the amiibos since they were a part of the same presentation as the Miis and sounded just as important as any potential DLC (if not more so).

2. In the event that Marshall or any other Rhythm Heaven character were revealed over Chorus Men, doesn't that technically mean the leak (or at least the second one) is bull****? How would another character aside from Chorus Men being revealed be proof of the leak's credibility? Another character getting in over Sakurai doesn't necessarily mean he originally planned Chorus Men and then later put in another RH character for whatever reason. Not an argument against the leak itself but against its defenders.

3. How does the leaker not know Greninja if he was decided on very early on in development but stayed around long enough that he had information on which newcomers were being planned for E3 2013? Did Game Freak take a really long time finishing the concept of Greninja or does Nintendo prepare for E3 waaaay in advance?

He didn't know everything. It could very well be the case that he didn't accurately get the names of Chorus Men and Chrom down right. There are two other main Lords of Fire Emblem Awakening who could potentially fill the slot over Chrom, and there are several Rhythm Heaven characters who could be in over Chorus Men. He had some accurate info either way, though, so its obvious that we'll at least get an Awakening lead character and a Rhythm Heaven character. There's no doubting this.

 

[Robertman2]

I have a few questions about this whole leak deal:

1. If he had up to date information on the name of Mii Fighter as well as information on Lucas and DLC, shouldn't he have leaked some information about the amiibo figurines? The leak about DLC means his leaks are no longer limited purely to newcomers and if he had up to date information about the name of the Mii he should of had info about the amiibos since they were a part of the same presentation as the Miis and sounded just as important as any potential DLC (if not more so).

2. In the event that Marshall or any other Rhythm Heaven character were revealed over Chorus Men, doesn't that technically mean the leak (or at least the second one) is bull****? How would another character aside from Chorus Men being revealed be proof of the leak's credibility? Another character getting in over Sakurai doesn't necessarily mean he originally planned Chorus Men and then later put in another RH character for whatever reason. Not an argument against the leak itself but against its defenders.

3. How does the leaker not know Greninja if he was decided on very early on in development but stayed around long enough that he had information on which newcomers were being planned for E3 2013? Did Game Freak take a really long time finishing the concept of Greninja or does Nintendo prepare for E3 waaaay in advance?

The third one point you brought up killed the second part for me. Also, didn't he say that more characters other than Palutena, Mii Fighters, and Pac-Man were supposed to be shown?

He didn't know everything. It could very well be the case that he didn't accurately get the names of Chorus Men and Chrom down right. There are two other main Lords of Fire Emblem Awakening who could potentially fill the slot over Chrom, and there are several Rhythm Heaven characters who could be in over Chorus Men. He had some accurate info either way, though, so its obvious that we'll at least get an Awakening lead character and a Rhythm Heaven character. There's no doubting this.

I hope he was wrong about Chrom. I would love to have Lucina or Robin over him.

 

[TheAnvil]

I still find it odd that he he could name Chrom but not Greninja.

I mean, even the most legitimate Leakers have got info wrong in the past, so it's entirely possible that Shulk, Chrom or Chorus Men won't appear as playable characters.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I still find it odd that he he could name Chrom but not Greninja.

I mean, even the most legitimate Leakers have got info wrong in the past, so it's entirely possible that Shulk, Chrom or Chorus Men won't appear as playable characters.

We won't know for sure until we see it. He just reiterated the info he had from last time. The only problem is, we know Rhythm Heaven enemies are in. That said, Sakurai had considered Karate Joe in the past.

 

[TheAnvil]

We won't know for sure until we see it. He just reiterated the info he had from last time. The only problem is, we know Rhythm Heaven enemies are in. That said, Sakurai had considered Karate Joe in the past.

Yeah things do change. The enemies in Smash Run could be left over from if/when Chorus Men were considered as playable (even if they never came to fruition). Just like Mewtwo and 6 others were planned to be in Brawl.

But I'm really just speaking hypothetically here. There's always a chance, however slim it may be.

 

[TumblrFamous]

The only thing I dont like about this is Lucas. Everything else I can handle very well.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Yeah things do change. The enemies in Smash Run could be left over from if/when Chorus Men were considered as playable (even if they never came to fruition). Just like Mewtwo and 6 others were planned to be in Brawl.

But I'm really just speaking hypothetically here. There's always a chance, however slim it may be.

If Chorus Men aren't added, we'll probably get a different Rhythm Heaven character instead.