The Official Thread For the Sal Romano/Gematsu Leak

[samsparta21]

It's less him choosing Sal, than choosing Gematsu. Which isn't really an odd choice.

Has anyone asked him for the exact email? There might be a few phrasing oddities in there.

 

[ChunkyBeef]

It's less him choosing Sal, than choosing Gematsu. Which isn't really an odd choice.

Well, you might as well leak to a website that'll cut you some of the money that the baited clicks bring you, right?

 

[Thirdkoopa]

also QA people don't know everything

the more i think about it chances are Sal's tipper was in QA.

 

[Noiblade]

Has anyone asked him for the exact email? There might be a few phrasing oddities in there.

I emailed him a couple days ago. Haven't gotten a response, I might try and re-e-mail him.

 

[kaliskonig]

As a firm believer that Robin deserves the FE Awakening rep spot, I can't bring myself to believe the Sal leaks. that and too many times have I come across a leaker who gets a lucky guess and reveals another leak only to admit he either: - was messing with everyone the entire time, or his first leak was legit and decided to egg people on with a later tidbit.

There is really no way for me to know if he is legit or not. Other than WFT his guesses were quite easy. Had he flat out said Greninja was in instead of "X/Y pokemon", I would be on board. Now the only way I can believe him is when/if Chorus Men are revealed. sad thing is they will likely be the last of the unlocks if they are anyways. lol

 

[samsparta21]

As a firm believer that Robin deserves the FE Awakening rep spot, I can't bring myself to believe the Sal leaks. that and too many times have I come across a leaker who gets a lucky guess and reveals another leak only to admit he either: - was messing with everyone the entire time, or his first leak was legit and decided to egg people on with a later tidbit.

There is really no way for me to know if he is legit or not. Other than WFT his guesses were quite easy. Had he flat out said Greninja was in instead of "X/Y pokemon", I would be on board. Now the only way I can believe him is when/if Chorus Men are revealed. sad thing is they will likely be the last of the unlocks if they are anyways. lol

I think if he called Wii Fit Trainer, he's legit already. He hasn't been wrong yet - while he missed Rosalina, none of the ones he has predicted have been disconfirmed. And Chrom is the main character of FE Awakening, not Robin.

 

[ChunkyBeef]

As a firm believer that Robin deserves the FE Awakening rep spot, I can't bring myself to believe the Sal leaks. that and too many times have I come across a leaker who gets a lucky guess and reveals another leak only to admit he either: - was messing with everyone the entire time, or his first leak was legit and decided to egg people on with a later tidbit.

There is really no way for me to know if he is legit or not. Other than WFT his guesses were quite easy. Had he flat out said Greninja was in instead of "X/Y pokemon", I would be on board. Now the only way I can believe him is when/if Chorus Men are revealed. sad thing is they will likely be the last of the unlocks if they are anyways. lol

More or less my sentiments on the whole thing. I think it's primarily just glorified click bait. Someone got lucky and they're taking advantage of it.

It's funny that people love to bring up that 'Oh, Gematsu wouldn't do that and ruin their credibility!'. Eh, honestly, no-one's going to know if they were right or not, 'cause if we've still got people delusional enough to not be skeptical of the leak when Greninja isn't specifically listed (by the way, Greninja isn't the only X/Y Pokemon in the game, and I'm not even counting Mega Lucario or Mega Charizard), then even if the leak turns out to be grossly untrue in the end, everyone will justify it simply by saying 'Oh, well, game development is a wild and ever-changing landscape, and things probably just changed between then and now!'.

Anyway, I'm mostly struggling against the leak 'cause, as I've said before on the topic, it has an eerie similarity to the Melee/Brawl leaks in that they all wound up being disappointing, so people ignored them 'til it turned out they were right. The Sal Romano/Gematsu leak is also disappointing, so that irks me something fierce.

 

[Luigi#1]

More or less my sentiments on the whole thing. I think it's primarily just glorified click bait. Someone got lucky and they're taking advantage of it.

It's funny that people love to bring up that 'Oh, Gematsu wouldn't do that and ruin their credibility!'. Eh, honestly, no-one's going to know if they were right or not, 'cause if we've still got people delusional enough to not be skeptical of the leak when Greninja isn't specifically listed (by the way, Greninja isn't the only X/Y Pokemon in the game, and I'm not even counting Mega Lucario or Mega Charizard), then even if the leak turns out to be grossly untrue in the end, everyone will justify it simply by saying 'Oh, well, game development is a wild and ever-changing landscape, and things probably just changed between then and now!'.

Anyway, I'm mostly struggling against the leak 'cause, as I've said before on the topic, it has an eerie similarity to the Melee/Brawl leaks in that they all wound up being disappointing, so people ignored them 'til it turned out they were right. The Sal Romano/Gematsu leak is also disappointing, so that irks me something fierce.

This protects so many leaks it's just mind boggling.

 

[Bauske]

More or less my sentiments on the whole thing. I think it's primarily just glorified click bait. Someone got lucky and they're taking advantage of it.

It's funny that people love to bring up that 'Oh, Gematsu wouldn't do that and ruin their credibility!'. Eh, honestly, no-one's going to know if they were right or not, 'cause if we've still got people delusional enough to not be skeptical of the leak when Greninja isn't specifically listed (by the way, Greninja isn't the only X/Y Pokemon in the game, and I'm not even counting Mega Lucario or Mega Charizard), then even if the leak turns out to be grossly untrue in the end, everyone will justify it simply by saying 'Oh, well, game development is a wild and ever-changing landscape, and things probably just changed between then and now!'.

Anyway, I'm mostly struggling against the leak 'cause, as I've said before on the topic, it has an eerie similarity to the Melee/Brawl leaks in that they all wound up being disappointing, so people ignored them 'til it turned out they were right. The Sal Romano/Gematsu leak is also disappointing, so that irks me something fierce.

This, in my opinion, is why I believe the leak is true. If you think about it, the roster is far from disappointing. We get a lot of great newcomers with this leak and we have no idea if that's the end of them. He didn't mention Rosalina, who else hasn't he mentioned. Even if the newcomers are limited to these 12, it's still a pretty great roster with the vets returning and getting some slight or major overhauls. I'm sure there's a reason we haven't seen Falcon, Falco, or Ganondorf. Anyway, that discussion goes off topic.

My point is that if people are disappointed with this roster, they've set themselves up for disappointment by expecting too much, just like with Brawl. This is a team of people working on a project, not a genie granting every wish. They can only do so much. That said, ultimately we're going to have to wait for E3 to see if Sal's leaker is right. If he gets another one or two newcomers accurate, I think more people will start to believe it. He hasn't been wrong so far, but again, he may not have listed everyone that's a newcomer. Brawl had15 newcomers, 17 if you could all three Pokemon from Pokemon Trainer, so who's to say that 12 is the limit in Smash 4?

 

[Zhadgon]

This, in my opinion, is why I believe the leak is true. If you think about it, the roster is far from disappointing. We get a lot of great newcomers with this leak and we have no idea if that's the end of them. He didn't mention Rosalina, who else hasn't he mentioned. Even if the newcomers are limited to these 12, it's still a pretty great roster with the vets returning and getting some slight or major overhauls. I'm sure there's a reason we haven't seen Falcon, Falco, or Ganondorf. Anyway, that discussion goes off topic.

My point is that if people are disappointed with this roster, they've set themselves up for disappointment by expecting too much, just like with Brawl. This is a team of people working on a project, not a genie granting every wish. They can only do so much. That said, ultimately we're going to have to wait for E3 to see if Sal's leaker is right. If he gets another one or two newcomers accurate, I think more people will start to believe it. He hasn't been wrong so far, but again, he may not have listed everyone that's a newcomer. Brawl had15 newcomers, 17 if you could all three Pokemon from Pokemon Trainer, so who's to say that 12 is the limit in Smash 4?

So you are saying that the people that was expecting Ridley, King K. Rool and Dixie Kong have to much expectations? If I should say myself those three characters with Toad are the only major Stars left to be included in the roster and should have been in this new installment. Do I like the leak HELL NO! Do I believe it YES!, is a disappointment choose of characters so far, nothing really exciting except for Mega Man, Villager and Little Mac counting the 12 with gematsu leak + Rosalina. I hope there still some hidden characters there and one of them would be King K. Rool, the only one that has a chance now.

So has anyone hear something new from Sal or Gematsu?

.n_n.

 

[ChunkyBeef]

My point is that if people are disappointed with this roster, they've set themselves up for disappointment by expecting too much, just like with Brawl.

I'm not disappointed with the overall roster - I mean, I love Little Mac and Mega Man, and I think Rosalina and Villager should prove to be unique and interesting fighters - I'm disappointed with the overall content of the Sal Romano/Gematsu leak. Which, when I realized it after talking it over with friends and other message board people, I noticed that the similarities are eerie between the Melee and Brawl leaks.

People couldn't believe that we were getting Pichu, Young Link and Dr. Mario. "This is dumb," they said. "Sakurai would never put those stupid characters in." Then the game released, and the leak turned out to be right. There was disappointment.

People couldn't believe that we were getting Wolf, ROB or Toon Link. "This is dumb," they said. "Sakurai would never put those stupid characters in." Then the game released, and the leak turned out to be right. There was disappointment.

People couldn't believe that we were (possibly) getting Wii Fit Trainer or Chorus Men. "This is dumb," they said. "Sakurai would never put those stupid characters in."

The major difference between the three leaks is that the Sal Romano/Gematsu leak is more widely recognized and believed because the Wii Fit Trainer guess was right on the money in some surprise bizarre twist of fate or luck. As I said before, the disappointment lies in the fact that there's a bunch of characters that people don't believe should be there, and the overall list of extra newcomers is, if I may be so bold, kinda disappointing. I'm aware there's probably newcomers that Gematsu/Sal aren't privy to, or it could just be that they never saw those newcomers coming 'cause they never expected them to occur (plus, 'X/Y Pokemon' encompasses a lot of things and doesn't sell me at all, since there's a ton of Pokemon X/Y elements revealed).

There's lots of things we can say and lots of excuses we can make, but at the end of the day, the proof is in the pudding.. and that pudding is disappointment. With a side of deja vu.

 

[Deleted member]

This, in my opinion, is why I believe the leak is true. If you think about it, the roster is far from disappointing. We get a lot of great newcomers with this leak and we have no idea if that's the end of them. He didn't mention Rosalina, who else hasn't he mentioned. Even if the newcomers are limited to these 12, it's still a pretty great roster with the vets returning and getting some slight or major overhauls. I'm sure there's a reason we haven't seen Falcon, Falco, or Ganondorf. Anyway, that discussion goes off topic.

My point is that if people are disappointed with this roster, they've set themselves up for disappointment by expecting too much, just like with Brawl. This is a team of people working on a project, not a genie granting every wish. They can only do so much. That said, ultimately we're going to have to wait for E3 to see if Sal's leaker is right. If he gets another one or two newcomers accurate, I think more people will start to believe it. He hasn't been wrong so far, but again, he may not have listed everyone that's a newcomer. Brawl had15 newcomers, 17 if you could all three Pokemon from Pokemon Trainer, so who's to say that 12 is the limit in Smash 4?

If these twelve were the only characters, I would be very disappointed. Only one character I want would have gotten in (Mega Man) and if it weren't for Mega Man, I would seriously consider not buying this game. This would excludes Mewtwo, King K. Rool, and Ridley; some of the best choices available to Sakurai at this moment and I call bull**** on excluding even one of them. Nothing about this leak makes me want it to be real; only one that would have already got confirmed before I started to believe it. I believe this leak because it has shown to be legitimate, not because of personal desire.

Also, regarding the leak, I doubt Chrom, Shulk, or Palutena will do anything to help the leak's legitimacy to the majority of these people; they're all generally expected (Shulk to a lesser extent). If the Chorus Men gets confirmed at E3, though, then that will convince a lot of people this leak is real. However, I don't think Sal Romano knows everyone in the game, as Rosalina has shown. We're definitely getting at least one more.

 

[Shroob]

If these twelve were the only characters, I would be very disappointed. Only one character I want would have gotten in (Mega Man) and if it weren't for Mega Man, I would seriously consider not buying this game. This would excludes Mewtwo, King K. Rool, and Ridley; some of the best choices available to Sakurai at this moment and I call bull**** on excluding even one of them. Nothing about this leak makes me want it to be real; only one that would have already got confirmed before I started to believe it. I believe this leak because it has shown to be legitimate, not because of personal desire.

Also, regarding the leak, I doubt Chrom, Shulk, or Palutena will do anything to help the leak's legitimacy to the majority of these people; they're all generally expected (Shulk to a lesser extent). If the Chorus Men gets confirmed at E3, though, then that will convince a lot of people this leak is real.

Again, I do need to remind people that Mewtwo is a veteran, not a newcomer. Charizard solo is technically way different than he was in Brawl, but Sakurai is treating him as a veteran.

If Sal's source only has information about newcomers, I doubt Mewtwo would be on that list.

 

[Deleted member]

Again, I do need to remind people that Mewtwo is a veteran, not a newcomer. Charizard solo is technically way different than he was in Brawl, but Sakurai is treating him as a veteran.

If Sal's source only has information about newcomers, I doubt Mewtwo would be on that list.

The reason why I lump Mewtwo in with the rest is because it was cut from Melee. Mewtwo could show up on a veteran list, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Mewtwo being part of a newcomer list either since not only would Mewtwo being a returning character, it would also likely receive a massive revamp.

 

[Shroob]

The reason why I lump Mewtwo in with the rest is because it was cut from Melee. Mewtwo could show up on a veteran list, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Mewtwo being part of a newcomer list either since not only would Mewtwo being a returning character, it would also likely receive a massive revamp.

Charizard got a massive revamp too when it comes to moves.

 

[Deleted member]

Charizard got a massive revamp too when it comes to moves.

Well he is a returnee from Brawl. If Mewtwo were to return, it would most likely be treated as if it was a newcomer.

 

[MargnetMan23]

Well he is a returnee from Brawl. If Mewtwo were to return, it would most likely be treated as if it was a newcomer.

Something tells me Sakurai should probably just make Mewtwo his own category xD

 

[Shroob]

Well he is a returnee from Brawl. If Mewtwo were to return, it would most likely be treated as if it was a newcomer.

I doubt that, personally.

A large majority of fighting games cut characters only to bring them back without fanfare in the next installment. Zangief, Dhalism, etc weren't in Street Fighter 3, but they were in 4 without any fanfare. Same happens in Mortal Kombat, etc.

 

[Dark Dude]

I am a disbeliever in the leak. It seems to me that it's just a lucky guess and not even a fully accurate one. There have been a lot of "leaks" saying that people know who are going to be in Smash, the only reason anyone is still talking about this one is because it's still yet to be disproven, even though the original leak said they would be revealed at E3 and they weren't all revealed at E3, so that is disproven.

The two characters that he guessed that everyone thinks proves this to be real is Villager and Wii Fit Trainer. Wii Fit was the third best selling Wii game, making Wii Fit Trainer the second most popular character on the Wii, second only to Mii (Wii Sports & Wii Play). Animal Crossing was the 11th best selling Wii game (outselling Metroid Prime 3) and the 7th best selling DS game (outselling Zelda: Phantom Hourglass). I think any open-minded, unbiased Smash fan could have came up with those two characters given the data. I'm sure Sakurai wants Smash Bros. to appeal to as many players as possible, so including characters from games that are more popular than the games that were already in Smash Bros. would be a smart way to do that, even if it does seem incredibly odd to many Smash players.

Mega Man and Little Mac were two highly requested characters to be in Smash and I'm sure has been in most "leaked" character lists. I consider these two to be lucky guesses, although not particularly lucky considering the "leak" said that they were going to be revealed at E3 and Little Mac was not.

Pac-Man and Mii, I think, will both be in the game. Considering Namco is making the game, that makes Pac-Man pretty likely, since it would be extremely easy to get the rights to Pac-Man and he is an iconic video game character. Miis are just all over first party Nintendo games anymore, so they're also a safe bet. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but again, neither of these were announced at E3.

On to the second, more recent "leak."

To me, saying "Pokemon from X/Y" seems extremely vague and a safe guess. Not impressed with that one at all. That's just a couple steps away from guessing "another Nintendo character." I've seen people say that it makes sense for him to say that since Greninja has a different name in the west and in Japan, but still, if he knew what character it was he could have either said the western or Japanese name.

There were five characters revealed in the direct and he wasn't right about any of them, aside from that vague guess about a Pokemon from X/Y. That does nothing for me to help the credibility of this "leak."

None of the rest of the characters have been revealed yet, so I guess we're all supposed to wait and see if he's right or not. But, since I'm a disbeliever, even if he is right I would just consider it to be a lucky guess. Chorus men, however, is an oddly specific guess and this, I would consider, to be way more highly unlikely than WFT or Villager. If Chorus Men do ever get confirmed to be in the game, then, and only then, would I say that there's even a chance that this "leak" could potentially be real, but even then, I would not rule out the possibility of an extremely good guess.

 

[Bauske]

So you are saying that the people that was expecting Ridley, King K. Rool and Dixie Kong have to much expectations? If I should say myself those three characters with Toad are the only major Stars left to be included in the roster and should have been in this new installment. Do I like the leak HELL NO! Do I believe it YES!, is a disappointment choose of characters so far, nothing really exciting except for Mega Man, Villager and Little Mac counting the 12 with gematsu leak + Rosalina. I hope there still some hidden characters there and one of them would be King K. Rool, the only one that has a chance now.

So has anyone hear something new from Sal or Gematsu?

.n_n.

I suppose it's all a matter of personal preference and perspective. I don't particularly find the idea of Ridley or K. Rool exciting. They don't do much for me. If they were in, I wouldn't care, but I honestly wouldn't care if they weren't. However, the idea of the Chorus Men and Pac-Man thrill me to bits. And maybe that's why I believe the leak, but I honestly try not to look at it with bias. I try to look at it from Sakurai's standpoint in terms of uniqueness and relativity.

 

[Morbi]

I suppose it's all a matter of personal preference and perspective. I don't particularly find the idea of Ridley or K. Rool exciting. They don't do much for me. If they were in, I wouldn't care, but I honestly wouldn't care if they weren't. However, the idea of the Chorus Men and Pac-Man thrill me to bits. And maybe that's why I believe the leak, but I honestly try not to look at it with bias. I try to look at it from Sakurai's standpoint in terms of uniqueness and relativity.

It is easier for me to evaluate the leak without bias as of current. I don't care what characters get into the game anymore, so I can actually just judge the leak based on the leak. By a preponderance of the evidence, the leak is real. That doesn't mean it is real, it just means that if you assert that you use logic to dictate your perspective, it should be interpreted as real for the moment. Anything can change and thus alter my perspective.

 

[Sucumbio]

did anyone anywhere predict wft? not leaked by nintendo to some dude, but just in a random thread maybe even here on swf. cause I for one had no idea it was even possible but then again i've never once played wii fit. and I do realize that wii fit is a HUGE game to the general population, so I suppose if you're just coming up w/a list of viable newcomers it's not a far stretch to guess wft, but for me it was way from left field cause i had to look the character up and most links just linked back to smash related links all hyped out about the reveal.

same goes for chorus whatever. rhythm heaven? yeah another janky waste of a game for the wiiSuck (no offense to ppl who like it, I just think the wii's library was overall complete trash with like, two maybe three exceptions).

 

[kaliskonig]

This, in my opinion, is why I believe the leak is true. If you think about it, the roster is far from disappointing. We get a lot of great newcomers with this leak and we have no idea if that's the end of them. He didn't mention Rosalina, who else hasn't he mentioned. Even if the newcomers are limited to these 12, it's still a pretty great roster with the vets returning and getting some slight or major overhauls. I'm sure there's a reason we haven't seen Falcon, Falco, or Ganondorf. Anyway, that discussion goes off topic.

My point is that if people are disappointed with this roster, they've set themselves up for disappointment by expecting too much, just like with Brawl. This is a team of people working on a project, not a genie granting every wish. They can only do so much. That said, ultimately we're going to have to wait for E3 to see if Sal's leaker is right. If he gets another one or two newcomers accurate, I think more people will start to believe it. He hasn't been wrong so far, but again, he may not have listed everyone that's a newcomer. Brawl had15 newcomers, 17 if you could all three Pokemon from Pokemon Trainer, so who's to say that 12 is the limit in Smash 4?

The only newcomer I will be disappointed in is Chrom. I won't mind him being in, I will play as him, and I enjoy the character overall. However it would really rub me the wrong way that sakurai chose all of these characters out of left field only to yet again go the obvious, bland route with Fire Emblem. It would take some characters that are highly requested to make me fully enjoy the roster if the leak is true. If those are indeed the final batch than the newcomers are mostly made up of unexpected characters and not ones people have been yearning for. For a game that comes once a generation, that can make or break the initial enjoyment of the game for a lot of people. Will they be amazing to play as though? Yep!

 

[Morbi]

did anyone anywhere predict wft? not leaked by nintendo to some dude, but just in a random thread maybe even here on swf. cause I for one had no idea it was even possible but then again i've never once played wii fit. and I do realize that wii fit is a HUGE game to the general population, so I suppose if you're just coming up w/a list of viable newcomers it's not a far stretch to guess wft, but for me it was way from left field cause i had to look the character up and most links just linked back to smash related links all hyped out about the reveal.

same goes for chorus whatever. rhythm heaven? yeah another janky waste of a game for the wiiSuck (no offense to ppl who like it, I just think the wii's library was overall complete trash with like, two maybe three exceptions).

No one predicted Wii Fit Trainer utilizing logic; all positive aspects are attributable to the character in hind-sight. I don't believe many even interpreted her as a character in general. She was more of a "narrator" if I am not mistaken. If they did get that far, Yoga being used as part of her move-set would have been antithetical to the notion of Yoga. I am sure someone somewhere was delusional enough to believe that Wii Fit Trainer was going to be in the game, but it is much more rational to believe that the leaker had inside information.

 

[Sucumbio]

No one predicted Wii Fit Trainer utilizing logic; all positive aspects are attributable to the character in hind-sight. I don't believe many even interpreted her as a character in general. She was more of a "narrator" if I am not mistaken. If they did get that far, Yoga being used as part of her move-set would have been antithetical to the notion of Yoga. I am sure someone somewhere was delusional enough to believe that Wii Fit Trainer was going to be in the game, but it is much more rational to believe that the leaker had inside information.

absolutely agree. the fact that Sal whoever he is said "Wii Fit Trainer" as a newcomer pretty much nails it for me that his source was legit. I also am not sold that him not being able to name a specific newcomer from pokemon x/y means his source is bunk. I think if anything it even further confirms his leak is legit. To me it plays out something like

(sal) Hey, nintendo guy, you got anymore newcomers?
(nintendo guy) Dude! Do you realize what you've done? I think they suspect me!
(sal) Oh c'mon man just one more! PLEEEEESE. They won't know it's you...
(nintendo guy) Uh... ****. UMMMMM..... okay. Look... there IS gonna be a pick from pokemon x/y but I'm not telling you who!
(sal) Fine, you *****. But you'd better be right or I'm gonna call Nintendo and tell them it was you and you'll be eating left over flied lice from crappy takeout diners the rest of your life.


... or something. Don't mind me, I just enjoy talking to myself

 

[Sucumbio]

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[Yonder]

I dunno, the only leak I truly believe in is the Palutena one because that's picture proof. As for this one, seems more like a lucky guess with WTF, but gives it more credibility over most other leaks of course. I'm still not buying it if someone obvious like Palutena or Chrom is revealed, but if a Chorus Man is revealed, then 2 obscure guesses will probably sell me.

As for my opinion on them...in order of most to least preferred.

----------(Characters I approve)

Palutena: Obviously getting in. Deserving and looks like an interesting addition to the roster.

Chrom: He is my favorite Lord, but I do prefer Robin. Also I don't know how original his moveset would be...but every newcomer this far has been unique. We'll see. Also another obvious reveal.

----------(Character I'm indifferent)

Chorus Men: Honestly, never played Rhythm Heaven or anything. Doesn't look too exciting from videos I've seen...and Chorus Man's design looks kind of lazy, the simple drawling look is already done perfectly by Game and Watch. But, this guy probably would have a unique moveset. I'd probably warm up to him like WFT and ROB, who I initially hated. So I'm just going off that experience and saying I don't care if he's in or not.

Pacman: I can see why he would get in, the whole Namco's mascot thing makes sense. Also, Namco has made this Smash Bros look like the best one yet so I think they deserve a little reward. Unfortunately, I don't care for Pacman himself much, and I don't know how his moveset will work. Again, I trust Sakurai with it though.

---------(Characters I don't want)

Shulk: I've never seen or played Xenoblade. I just don't know anything about this character, but unfortunately I hear he is a bit of a bore. Also, another swordsman...

Mii: Die.You unfortunately deserving little scumbags.



Overall, I would be disappointed if these were the only newcomers, but let's hope!

 

[Sucumbio]

eh I think all the character choices with the exception of mega man which is an obvious nod to the people here and like places who have just been SCREAMING for him for years... I think they're all a bit... poster children? If that can be used that way... if anything this whole series is like that. You've got your core 8 or whatever characters, mario, luigi, peach, bowser, dk, fox, link, and whoever else, then you have the next level of Nintendo representation, expansions from the core, and then you have odd-ball stuff/3rd party developer picks. And they all are basically a giant advertisement for what's cool on the current Nintendo system, or what's coming out shortly etc.

So Shulk, sure Xenoblade is still in the top 10 FAQs at gfs for the Wii, Chrom, yeah sure, though I don't own a DS and so I haven't played FE 11 (or is it 12? 10? whatever) but yeah, I mean Ike was obvious, the gamecube FE and the Wii FE featured him... Olimar, yep... GC and Wii, on and on, so if you look at it from this angle, some of the picks make perfect sense. I don't see Palutena making sense, but I haven't played any of the Pit games so I don't know. I DEFINITELY haven't played Rhythm Heaven so F that S. And Pac-Man, ok that's dumb as F. Wouldn't be a bad assist trophy but as a character, ha, I would lmmfao if it came to pass. pac-man. god. ><

 

[UberPyro64]

This leak could very well be real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3v8amOGKBs

The RosalinaX leak from last year said inside drifting in Mario Kart 8 was back but altered. It seems like it was correct. The leak itself also said that Smash would have 4 cuts from Brawl and a total of 48 characters.
This fits perfectly with the Gematsu leak. With 4 cuts along with the newcomers announced would equal 41. With the Gematsu leak newcomers added in along with Mewtwo returning, we would have 48 characters.

That's a big coincidence but who knows. Both leaks could be true. This would mean we would know most of the roster.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

The fact that the leaker was vague regarding the Pokemon begs the question: "just was his job, anyway?".

I have a friend that works in translation for Nintendo, and he doesn't learn anything about the games he's working on except for finalised details. Pre-production or alpha phase stuff like undecided characters would surely be limited to the core design team, no?

If I was the leaker, and I had seen Greninja; I probably would say "Pokémon from X & Y", or "a Pokémon from new generation".. He may not know everybody that he saw, after all he may have his own favorite games that he knows very well, or the ones that he play most; but at least, guessed about Greninja being from the most recent games..

Well, I think that the majority of people that know the names of the Pokémons nowadays, are hardcore fans, anyway.. I stopped on Chikorita =P

Even Chrom would be hard to me remember his name, honestly,... never got interest in FireEmblem. XP

I believe in the leak, and the possibility of Chorus Men is what makes my faith bigger, .. seems a kind of thing that Sakurai would explore... as seen in past games. =)

 

[MargnetMan23]

If I was the leaker, and I had seen Greninja; I probably would say "Pokémon from X & Y", or "a Pokémon from new generation".. He may not know everybody that he saw, after all he may have his own favorite games that he knows very well, or the ones that he play most; but at least, guessed about Greninja being from the most recent games..

Well, I think that the majority of people that know the names of the Pokémons nowadays, are hardcore fans, anyway.. I stopped on Chikorita =P

Even Chrom would be hard to me remember his name, honestly,... never got interest in FireEmblem. XP

I believe in the leak, and the possibility of Chorus Men is what makes my faith bigger, .. seems a kind of thing that Sakurai would explore... as seen in past games. =)

Well, if I saw a physical image of the pokémon, and knew it was from x and y (and didn't know what the pokemon was called before hand like I actually did) then I would think looking the damn thing up before hand for a more accurate leak would've been the least I could do.

 

[yoonb]

(Characters I don't want)

Shulk: I've never seen or played Xenoblade. I just don't know anything about this character, but unfortunately I hear he is a bit of a bore. Also, another swordsman...

Mii: Die.You unfortunately deserving little scumbags.



Overall, I would be disappointed if these were the only newcomers, but let's hope!

Alright, let's back up here a little. As you stated, you've never played Xenoblade and I can't blame you for that. Game is rare and expensive, but to just play Shulk off as "another swordsman" is insulting. Even more so when you stated that you have hopes for Chrom being unique who is another blue-haired Lord. I'll let you know about Shulk. He uses the Monado, basically a sword that grants him control over ether energy and can change in length. The Monado also grants him the ability to see visions of the future. On top of that, in combat, Shulk has moves that have extra effects like boosted damage and reducing armor and speed based on where he hits opponent. Although, I do agree that Shulk's character may not be the most exciting, but he is most definitely not just "another swordsman."

I do agree with you on Miis, though. I detest the idea of them, but I think it's inevitable.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

Well, if I saw a physical image of the pokémon, and knew it was from x and y (and didn't know what the pokemon was called before hand like I actually did) then I would think looking the damn thing up before hand for a more accurate leak would've been the least I could do.

*simulation*
- Okay... that's Palutena... Oh Nice, Shulk... the hell is that? Chorus Men?... Okay.. there's Pac-Man, the Miis... Chrom from Fire Emblem, right? and... that's a Pokémon right?... must be from X & Y, or something like that... and don't know a s*** about it... Done, gotta go now.*

=P

 

[MargnetMan23]

*simulation*
- Okay... that's Palutena... Oh Nice, Shulk... the hell is that? Chorus Men?... Okay.. there's Pac-Man, the Miis... Chrom from Fire Emblem, right? and... that's a Pokémon right?... must be from X & Y, or something like that... and don't know a s*** about it... Done, gotta go now.*

=P

What, he had to rush the leak out before he forgot about it?

If the leaker is completely truthful, not figuring out who the X and Y pokemon was if he was able to see a picture of the characters (was that something the leaker actually claimed?) Is a dumb ass move on his part. A feasible move, but still a stupid one.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

What, he had to rush the leak out before he forgot about it?

If the leaker is completely truthful, not figuring out who the X and Y pokemon was if he was able to see a picture of the characters (was that something the leaker actually claimed?) Is a dumb *** move on his part. A feasible move, but still a stupid one.

Was just a simulation, we don't know the circumstances that the guy got or checked the information... maybe he even got from another guy, internal from Nintendo, who said Greninja, and at the time he typed the information, just said "Pokémon from X & Y". =P... Well well, maybe Greninja is something still to discuss.. but guessing Wii Fit and Villager, for me, is already something to give full credibility. XD

 

[IsmaR]

Alright, let's back up here a little. As you stated, you've never played Xenoblade and I can't blame you for that. Game is rare and expensive, but to just play Shulk off as "another swordsman" is insulting. Even more so when you stated that you have hopes for Chrom being unique who is another blue-haired Lord. I'll let you know about Shulk. He uses the Monado, basically a sword that grants him control over ether energy and can change in length. The Monado also grants him the ability to see visions of the future. On top of that, in combat, Shulk has moves that have extra effects like boosted damage and reducing armor and speed based on where he hits opponent. Although, I do agree that Shulk's character may not be the most exciting, but he is most definitely not just "another swordsman."

I do agree with you on Miis, though. I detest the idea of them, but I think it's inevitable.

Stick to the topic (the leak itself) rather than discussing how you feel about characters/preference, s'il vous pl0x.

 

[Bauske]

What, he had to rush the leak out before he forgot about it?

If the leaker is completely truthful, not figuring out who the X and Y pokemon was if he was able to see a picture of the characters (was that something the leaker actually claimed?) Is a dumb *** move on his part. A feasible move, but still a stupid one.

Or maybe, as someone pointed out before, he was vague in his statement in order to protect his job, or was vague because he no longer has the job and at the time of getting his information months ago only knew that a Pokemon from X and Y would be in the game, but didn't know exactly which one. There are many circumstances to consider. We don't know the leaker's position or role, but I'm certain there's a reason he was vague about "pokemon from x and y".

 

[MargnetMan23]

Or maybe, as someone pointed out before, he was vague in his statement in order to protect his job, or was vague because he no longer has the job and at the time of getting his information months ago only knew that a Pokemon from X and Y would be in the game, but didn't know exactly which one. There are many circumstances to consider. We don't know the leaker's position or role, but I'm certain there's a reason he was vague about "pokemon from x and y".

Well, if it's the former, that's stupid because protecting Greninja's identity when he revealed that many other characters is pointless and doesn't make sense at all.

Your alternative suggestion is a situation where it would be justified however.

I recognize that there are other ways it could have played out, but I think there are more scenarios where just saying, "Greninja" was the better idea, at least in hindsight.

 

[Halfhead]

Why don't you think Sal said "Pokémon from X and Y" because Nintendo didn't even know at the point Sal's leaker found out. It's very possible.

 

[Sucumbio]

maybe Sakurai is the leaker and he used his jedi mind trick on Sal. I guess this thread is futile now, I hope everyone's happy. >.>;