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That's hard to say. If he only bothered to mention Lucas, he might be the only one in danger, outside of Squirtle and Ivysaur. I'll say it's a bit odd not to bring up Snake if you're a leaker though, he's an assumed cut by many, but you'd think he'd offer some clarification regardless.
Indeed. However, the number of character squares on the selection screen dictates the size and proportion of the character squares, since they'll have to fit together in some kind of aesthetically pleasing way. For those speculating, it's a simple matter of working in reverse; using the proportions of the character squares as a measuring stick to see how many are intended to fit.
I find it probable that he would want to formally unveil each character with a bombastic CGI trailer, before low-fidelity screenshots leak out, since he hates the Internet ruining his best laid plans. I don't see why he would try to hold back secrets when, previously, he seemed so resigned to the Internet making secrets impossible.
Then there's that guy who has a 51 roster that looks "nice" and everything, and so on and so forth. So using a CSS to get to 47 doesn't mean anything.
See the thing I said earlier about cutscenes, and why it's a problem when they get posted on the internet, rather than it just being spoilers. In fact, Sakurai's exact quote is:
Is that what he said? I just remember him saying "We may not be able to cover all of the content before the release date comes." I'd look it up myself but I'm busy at the moment. If you're sure, I'll take your word for it.
if this game came out next year yes we would but since he is hell bent on releasing it this year he wouldn't have the time to include enough to surpass 18 new fightersBrawl had 18 new characters.
Eighteen.
Do you really think we'll have more than this:
Thankfully, I have all the time in the world.
Yeah, I messed the exact quote up a bit, but it still shows he's not resigned to not keeping anything a mystery.
Another delay would be ridiculous considering the state of the Wii U.
That's probably why we're getting DLC characters. The game comes out this year, and additional characters are released later as DLC.
There's a nice variety of franchises represented... but its severely lacking in classic characters. No new DK rep, no "Retro" Nintendo rep (Little Mac had a game recently and Pac-Man/Mega Man, though based on Retro designs, have had games recently), no real handheld-exclusive reps (kinda annoying; Golden Sun and Advance Wars representation would've been cool), and only about 1/3 of the characters are all that interesting.
I'm very satisfied with the newcomers we have, and the remaining three from this leak would be interesting. Is there some I would like more? Yes (Bowser Jr. comes to mind), but you can't get them all.
It'd be better if Ridley, King K, Isaac and Bomberman were in.
Lol, I got a Spam Infraction....Heats Suck
I agree. Franchises that have previously had reps are not getting a great deal of attention. Out of the nine newcomers so far, only three are reps of a franchise that already has reps: Rosalina, Greninja, and Palutena. No DK newcomer is both surprising and disappointing, and the lack of retro characters is shocking as well, knowing Sakurai.That's probably why we're getting DLC characters. The game comes out this year, and additional characters are released later as DLC.
There's a nice variety of franchises represented... but its severely lacking in classic characters. No new DK rep, no "Retro" Nintendo rep (Little Mac had a game recently and Pac-Man/Mega Man, though based on Retro designs, have had games recently), no real handheld-exclusive reps (kinda annoying; Golden Sun and Advance Wars representation would've been cool), and only about 1/3 of the characters are all that interesting.
Yeah, I'd be disappointed. I'll deal with the roster, but this is quite disappointing regardless. Still, if Ganondorf gets a total makeover and no other characters are updated, I'll be perfectly happy with it. If Ganondorf doesn't get an overhaul I'll be really pissed that we got all this effort put into Newcomers but not one of Nintendo's most iconic villains, whom will still be stuck with a clone moveset.
Nice change of pace for this topic! Personally I would be just a little disappointed that fan favorites such as Ridley and Mewtwo weren't added, but since I love so many of the veterans and newcomers I'd be OK with it in the long-run. After all, even with just the characters Sal has leaked I believe Sakurai has indeed achieved creating the greatest character game ever, not to mention what might well be the best Smash Bros. so far if in no other way than character choice. I was predicting only like 42 characters before, so I am very happy that I was off by such a significant portion! Besides, there's always the next Smash Bros. (and things like Project M) for characters that the fans feel should have been put in this game.
I know Shulk and Chrom will in their respective communities, but you're right, compared to characters like Mega Man and Pac-Man, they won't generate nearly as much general buzz. Though I do predict the guy with the huge, awesome sword will become a fan-favorite even among people who have never heard of Xenoblade after people get their hands on the game. He'll be like Roy 2.0, assuming they don't make him more like Brawl Ganondorf 2.0...
I realize we have those characters, and I'm very excited about all of them(except maybe Shulk). But am I wrong to be disappointed? I still feel like this roster is missing something. Most of my most wanted characters have been confirmed already, yet I still feel like there is some hole in this roster, a hole that can only be filled by
Handheld?So if I'm correct this is the roster we are expecting taking into account all of the gematsu leaks thus far?![]()
From someone who personally doesn't get a single one of my most wanted newcomers, this isn't too shabby.
My only major gripe with this is that Sm4sh is supposed to be about the Console and the Handheld Nintendo worlds.
I'm seeing a lot of console here, but barely any handheld.
My #1 newcomer is any rep from Golden Sun, so I'm a little bummed to see that handheld exclusive series take the backburner to some more lackluster console characters.
But besides that, I have no problems with this roster, it's massive for a smash game and in all honesty has amazing quality and overall variety.
About DLC being present in this game, I don't understand everyone's problem with it.
Not only do I feel Nintendo does DLC right, but they haven't been doing it for very long, and I feel smash is more than deserving of some character DLC to keep the hype going far after the release date.
And hey, maybe we'll get some of those hype inducing characters like K. Rool, Ridley, Isaac, etc.
Yeah, Shulk does seem pretty awesome, but I've never had a strong appeal to characters I'm not familiar with. Doesn't mean I'm against them, but it would take a lot for me to warm up to them. Ike is probably a good example of what I'm saying. I wasn't familiar with him before Brawl, so at the time, it took a while for me to like him. I do now though, so maybe the same will happen for Shulk.
I wasn't saying there was NO handheld representation.
Rhythm Heaven isn't handheld exclusive. The characters themselves were, though.
Didn't know that.
There are two big factors you're discounting. One, "Pic of the day" started much sooner before release than the Brawl Dojo updates did (Brawl Dojo updates started about six months before Japanese release, while Smash 4 pic of the days started 15 months before Japanese release). Two, regardless of if we really only have 12 newcomers, or up to even 20, a much larger portion of the roster are veterans this time (in Brawl, nearly half the cast were newcomers, while this time around veterans take up around two-thirds). That is why we have a seeming lower rate of newcomers being revealed, not necessarily because we have much less of them (additionally, this is completely discounting that Sakurai might want to keep more newcomers secret this time, he has lamented that he revealed too much stuff for Brawl prerelease).
Technically, even if we had an Advance Wars character, it wouldn't be handheld exclusive. In the US it would be, but prior Wars games were on consoles.
Actually, a single Chorus Man was in Fever in Munchy Mok.
The exact quote:
Out of the "classic" franchises, it could be argued that there doesn't need to be a whole lot more reps per franchise. You mentioned Mario, Pokemon, and KI getting new reps. Let's look at the others.
I'd disagree. I think it would vastly improve the game's once per generation lifespan and make it more enjoyable for longer.
If I'm interpretting this correctly, if they were to do DLC characters, I'm sure the only plausible "new" characters would be Inklings, Wonder Red, and possibly the guy from Codename STEAM. Other than that we'd get oldie newcomers. If that makes sense
Yeah, it makes the game last longer for that generation but when the next game rolls around it's almost like a glorified expansion pack. Nintendo only has so many characters to choose from before they start scraping the bottom of the barrel. And my fear with DLC characters is that when the next smash game gets announced, no one will be excited for who's in it..
K. Rool is hardly franchise-dead. He last appeared around the time of Brawl and there have only been two DK games since then (plus a port). Compared to DK games prior to Returns including spinoffs (solo DK games), K. Rool has appeared in about 90% of them and even appeared in a Mario spinoff.
Hell, if we even get another smash, looking at Sakurai's health...
That depends on how long they support it for. Say we have to wait another 6 years for the next Smash, if Smash 4 gets DLC throughout 2015, something like 3-4 packs, but then stops afterwards it wouldn't take away from the next Smash as a 5 year gap is still a lot. Heck, DLC support for 2 years would still not rip the next Smash of that feeling.
LOL shut up.
Pretty much this.
