The official "RATE MY KIRBY" and "HELP WITH A MATCHUP" thread!

[Sx2Kirby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5aDU_19T30 Tell me what you think and sorry bout the quality
And i know i like dont use bair enough(and i dont know why)

 

[tekkie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07uEFyPmNPo

Rate my Kirby and help me with the Donkey Kong matchup

 

[Y.b.M.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07uEFyPmNPo

Rate my Kirby and help me with the Donkey Kong matchup

I'd give your Kirby a 6/10.... You need to do more Utilts...they are great for juggling characters especially heavy characters. Halberd isn't a good stage to play DK on...Just for the simple fact that It has a low Ceiling and Kirby is a Light Character. Use that Hammer in situations that you know that it will connect..because The Hammer is easy to read. Good Job on Utilizing the BAir...and Good job on making good use of the Nair. Use More of the Up B for projectiles to distance yourself between him. Practice on grabbing and chaining into combos. And When your using Dair be sure to space correctly so you don't get punished for being to close. Umm yeah...I watched the Vid Twice to make sure i didn't overlook anything...but keep practicing and get in routine of making good use of the tilts and grab combos....

 

[tekkie]

Use More of the Up B for projectiles to distance yourself between him.

That sounds like it could be shielded/powershielded extremely easily.

 

[Nihongo-ookami]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFon1hoQF6o

Critique my Kirby! I've since that match improved, and I don't dodge-roll as much, and I still need to work on my tilts.

Help?

 

[Sx2Kirby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5aDU_19T30 Tell me what you think and sorry bout the quality
And i know i like dont use bair enough(and i dont know why)

 

[Y.b.M.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFon1hoQF6o

Critique my Kirby! I've since that match improved, and I don't dodge-roll as much, and I still need to work on my tilts.

Help?

DUDE...YOU USE THAT HAMMER ALOT....YOU USE DOWN B ALOT... try not to use them often...They become predictable....especially the Stone(down B)...Doing so will get you punished easy as you can see at the 1:11 mark of the Vid...Those are the main problems I see...Over using the Hammer...Like at the end of the Match where you repeatedly kept using the hammer after he threw you off the stage. THREE TIMES and it cost you the match...Kirby is good but me more understanding of what your doing in certain situations. Use more Utilts in situations where a smash attack would seem to hit them...when it usually doesn't because of the Spot dodge....Ummm thats all i can really say...Also try to build and Air game as well make good use of those multiple jumps

 

[Sx2Kirby]

Will some one please rate mine?

 

[Kewkky]

Will some one please rate mine?

Awright, I saw it, and it wasn't hard making out what was happening:

If you ever grab a heavy character at 0%, always do the following:

Grab > fthrow > uair >fthrow > uair > anything you want. The chance that all of it will connect is near 100%, so always do that... Real easy % (0%>30%+)!

Apart from that... Try jabbing less, bairing more, utilting more, moving more in general (and shorthopping then fastfalling a lot, mix up by adding bairs every few jumps), grabbing and dthrowing more (definitely add this), and spacing all of your attacks.

Watch a couple of Kirby videos in the recent replies of the "Kirby Video Thread!" so you can see what I mean, ok? You need some work, but you have the basics down, so now it's just a matter of getting the "spontaneity (thinking on-the-spot)" of Kirby down.

 

[Sx2Kirby]

Awright, I saw it, and it wasn't hard making out what was happening:

If you ever grab a heavy character at 0%, always do the following:

Grab > fthrow > uair >fthrow > uair > anything you want. The chance that all of it will connect is near 100%, so always do that... Real easy % (0%>30%+)!

Apart from that... Try jabbing less, bairing more, utilting more, moving more in general (and shorthopping then fastfalling a lot, mix up by adding bairs every few jumps), grabbing and dthrowing more (definitely add this), and spacing all of your attacks.

Watch a couple of Kirby videos in the recent replies of the "Kirby Video Thread!" so you can see what I mean, ok? You need some work, but you have the basics down, so now it's just a matter of getting the "spontaneity (thinking on-the-spot)" of Kirby down.

thanks for the review I will take your advice into account the next time I brawl someone :D

 

[momochuu]

Actually, even heavies can get out of F-Throw -> UpAir now. Down Throw allows for Up-tilt follow ups and tech chasing. I'd recommend using D-Throw against good opponents.

 

[Kewkky]

Actually, even heavies can get out of F-Throw -> UpAir now. Down Throw allows for Up-tilt follow ups and tech chasing. I'd recommend using D-Throw against good opponents.

Most characters have been able to get out of the fthrow combo (my friends' DDD does it all the time) for a long while now, so adapt when they start doing so. I usually fthrow>rising fair>fair and keep on being spontaneous when they try to outsmart me by jumping out.

 

[TrIkZ]

Most characters have been able to get out of the fthrow combo (my friends' DDD does it all the time) for a long while now, so adapt when they start doing so. I usually fthrow>rising fair>fair and keep on being spontaneous when they try to outsmart me by jumping out.

Or if your opponent is aggressive they will attack you, shield then downgrab them.
Works like a charm

Will some one please rate mine?

Wayyy to many hammers. not enough grabs and bairs you would be surprised how ftilt works wonders out of a bair. Don't rock so much. very very predictable. and don't roll dodge alot. you will find yourself roll dodging into a smash against higher level opponents, i really liked the grab to uptilt to upsmash. Keep it up!

 

[megatonfist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkoolaT-RV0 rate please D=

 

[Kewkky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkoolaT-RV0 rate please D=

o_O I've also done 3stock 0% on CPUs, but I actually run in and combo, not just camp upB... And my opponents have been lv9 CPUs (Diddy and Ganondorf... Who knew?)

Well, uhh hmm... Next time, do more upBs.

Rating? 2/20, because you used 2 out of Kirby's 20 attacks.

 

[megatonfist]

o_O I've also done 3stock 0% on CPUs, but I actually run in and combo, not just camp upB... And my opponents have been lv9 CPUs (Diddy and Ganondorf... Who knew?)

Well, uhh hmm... Next time, do more upBs.

Rating? 2/20, because you used 2 out of Kirby's 20 attacks.

thx lol, i probably wont post a real video of me playing someone because everyone around me who plays brawl just fails or has no time....unless a computer actually counts as a real challenge D=

 

[tekkie]

everyone around me who plays brawl just fails or has no time

Unless you live on some deserted island, there are definitely people nearby.

 

[TrIkZ]

Unless you live on some deserted island, there are definitely people nearby.

True that! I live in the desert and i find people!
Just not looking hard enough

 

[Kewkky]

True that! I live in the desert and i find people!
Just not looking hard enough

True that! I live in an island and i find people!
Just not looking hard enough


np, if you don't want to upload vids, it's cool.

 

[TrIkZ]

True that! I live in an island and i find people!
Just not looking hard enough


np, if you don't want to upload vids, it's cool.

I see what you did there.

Ill upload some soon. Im not that bad i don't think. But it never hurts getting critiqued.

 

[sushi-F13ND]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07uEFyPmNPo

Rate my Kirby and help me with the Donkey Kong matchup

You should cut down on roll dodging, you're running into your opponents attacks. Thats a horrible thing to do against a good DK player haha. In this case, definately make use of your air/spot dodges, and follow up with grab combos like D-Grab>U-Tilt to rack up damage. You never grab combo'd, and thats one of kirby's most useful tactics.

What cost you the match was your inability to dodge DK's smash attacks. Remember: kirby's a light character. You're gona want to avoid those strong attacks the minute your percentage hit 90, especially on a stage with a low ceiling like Halberd.

and OMG dont spam D-air OR Side-B. They're laaaaggy and PUNISHABLE. Your goal with these attacks are to catch your opponent by surprise, try not to use them excessively.

EDIT: btw, I liked your use of B-air. You should've been using that more often. It's perfectly fine to spam B-air, its a quick and strong move.

 

[xXLifTXx]

I need some help, I have trouble going for long periods of time against people that are better than me.
At first I'll do great, but slowly over time I get a little heated up and start losing really bad. I.E. I'll start spamming roll dodge (big uh oh)
I've struggled through the problem in melee, but I'm new to this brawl community and after awhile it's gotten to be a terrible habit. Any suggestions?

 

[Kewkky]

I need some help, I have trouble going for long periods of time against people that are better than me.
At first I'll do great, but slowly over time I get a little heated up and start losing really bad. I.E. I'll start spamming roll dodge (big uh oh)
I've struggled through the problem in melee, but I'm new to this brawl community and after awhile it's gotten to be a terrible habit. Any suggestions?

Replacing rolls with spotdodges or shields are your best bet, maybe evn rolling away from your opponent rather than towards him. I myself just try to powershield>grab my opponent if I know an attack is coming, otherwise I just space everything and make them miss (better for us both not hitting each other than only me taking damage).

 

[TMRaven]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vifDcVLLRq0&feature=channel_page

While random Wifi and its horrible client input lag isn't exactly the best to demonstrate pure technique and timing, the video's just a little nice series of fights to watch. Some edging here and there, some kirbycides here and there, and so forth. Usually you find some really crappy players on random Wifi too, but this time I had the pleasure of playing team battle with 3 other decent players. The ending was kinda funny too.

Well, any thoughts on the kirby?

 

[Jon?]

Hey guys. I just got some videos put up recently of my Kirby in some team action! Please let me know how to improve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA5hxx2Qcrg
*note: In the first match, the video gets cut off right when I was gonna do an epic Kirbycide on a freshly spawned Snake and my teammates Wofts MK while MK was in his Uthrow animation!
*note: In the second match, I performed pretty badly. I was just joking around with my friends in the second match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6_purrCrOA
*note: I think I did pretty decently. We lacked teamwork so that's why we didn't do so well.

Thanks in advance!

 

[xXLifTXx]

Replacing rolls with spotdodges or shields are your best bet, maybe evn rolling away from your opponent rather than towards him. I myself just try to powershield>grab my opponent if I know an attack is coming, otherwise I just space everything and make them miss (better for us both not hitting each other than only me taking damage).

Thanks, I'll give it a shot!
When you say power shield, that would be holding Z in melee right? Brawl has that? O.o
By the way, this little tip helped a lot, my next problem is Luigi and his amazing regular A air being compatible with just about every other move he does lol I find myself getting shanked with his forward smash a lot, and most of the time it's because I'm avoiding his ever so famous HADOUKEN

 

[Kewkky]

Thanks, I'll give it a shot!
When you say power shield, that would be holding Z in melee right? Brawl has that? O.o

Not the same as melee, and in a sense, yeah the same as melee. In Brawl, all you have to do is raise your shields (with L or R) right before you get hit with any atack. If you do it right, you hear a "CLINK" sound and you get practically no shieldstun while your opponent still does, meaning you can retaliate with almost anything you desire.

By the way, this little tip helped a lot, my next problem is Luigi and his amazing regular A air being compatible with just about every other move he does lol I find myself getting shanked with his forward smash a lot, and most of the time it's because I'm avoiding his ever so famous HADOUKEN

Well, your best bet here is to expect the fsmash everytime you're going to approach and you're over 80%... Run in, get evasive/shield/powershield if you got him read like a book, and retaliate. Kirby's game can play the "bait and punish" tactic very, very well, as you can see. :D

 

[Dooms]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-j0Y15UlzA

This is the only video I have up at the moment, and I am waiting for one more. Any tips for my Kirby? =D

 

[~Shao~]

The main problem I see is you roll to much. Rolling is usually not the best option, especially if you're going to roll into your opponent. That's why you got hit by those 2 f-smashes. Try shielding more.

You know about the grab combos, but you shouldn't use b-throw that much, d-throw is better most of the times. And you should work on your spacing and use of tilts (d-tilt and f-tilt mostly). Your edgeguarding is ok. Oh, don't spam f-smash as much. Hope it helps.

 

[smash64]

ill say Y.b.M. is the best Kirby in the Midwest and also better than Chu dat

 

[Dooms]

He probably is. YbM is a great kirby, wouldnt be suprised at all if he was the best in the midwest.

 

[fromundaman]

Haha, best in the MW is no question IMO.
Best in the nation is debatable, though I personally agree.

 

[Triple R]

ill say Y.b.M. is the best Kirby in the Midwest and also better than Chu dat

That's not biased at all......

 

[Kewkky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-j0Y15UlzA

This is the only video I have up at the moment, and I am waiting for one more. Any tips for my Kirby? =D

Well, let's see...

-Whenever you killed your opponent, you rolled towards the center of the stage, into an Ike Fsmash. That cost you a stock (almost 2) in that match. I'm not saying it's always a bad idea to roll towards the center, but when you're at a high enough % to die from an attack or when your opponent just appeared after his death, it's never a good idea.

-You ran towards your upponent and used usmash. Try replacing those with grabs, dash attacks orshort-hopped bairs/fairs and you'll see that you're not going to be punished as easily as before.

-Don't use laggy attacks (like your upB) and land in front of your opponent. He'll most probably shield and take advantage of the lag afterwards to punish you for it, so try to stick to lagless fast attacks.

-When Ike was recharging his neutral B, you got impatient and jumped down towards him, which killed you. Believe me, it's a much better idea to just wait until he finishes his attack, then run in for a grab or dash attack while he's having the horrible afterlag of the attack. Kirby does way better if you play an almost-defensive game, forcing your opponents to use attacks, evading them, then punishing them for doing those laggy attacks (Bait and Punishing).

-You need to add more tilts into your game. I don't remember seeing ftilts (which have insane range) between you and Ike, same could be said with utilt from time to time (but you did use this one).

-Fastfall more. When you attack in the air, you have to wait for your attack's animation to end before you can do another one. By fastfalling, you end your attacks faster, get to jump quicker, reach the floor for ground retaliations faster, etc.


I liked how your kirby moved around, it's quite fast! And the way you bair'd Ike away from the stage towards his doom was beautiful.

 

[Dooms]

Thanks, i think this will help me and i will be sure to use this information at my next tournament (=

 

[mohongwort]

whos y,b,m and chu dat is east and also best in nation

 

[fromundaman]

whos y,b,m and chu dat is east and also best in nation

Well, last time they played, Chu got beaten by YbM in 2 sets of Kirby dittos, and he outplaced him at the same tourny (though I heard YbM had an easier bracket.). All I'm saying is don't assume Chu to be the best, because as good as he is, he has some competition.

 

[mohongwort]

Well, last time they played, Chu got beaten by YbM in 2 sets of Kirby dittos, and he outplaced him at the same tourny (though I heard YbM had an easier bracket.). All I'm saying is don't assume Chu to be the best, because as good as he is, he has some competition.[/


but think of when was that tourney, chu dat could have gottin better and y.b.m to
but think now about chu dat watch of chu and y bm and looks whos better

 

[T-nuts]

but think now about chu dat watch of chu and y bm and looks whos better

pardon me?

 

[fromundaman]

Well, last time they played, Chu got beaten by YbM in 2 sets of Kirby dittos, and he outplaced him at the same tourny (though I heard YbM had an easier bracket.). All I'm saying is don't assume Chu to be the best, because as good as he is, he has some competition.

but think of when was that tourney, chu dat could have gottin better and y.b.m to
but think now about chu dat watch of chu and y bm and looks whos better

That was like a month ago if I remember correctly... When was Apex?