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[ImaClubYou]

Sorry, g2g for now. We can rematch later

 

[BaPr]

Anyone have a Mod Breaker Excadrill? Also, can you change my info to open to battles? I'm still team building, but the experience can help me figure out what I should have on my team.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

Are there any advantages or disadvantages for Mega Aggron? I did Battle Maison & it seemed to resist a Super Effective Bulldoze?

 

[Fluttershy]

Are there any advantages or disadvantages for Mega Aggron? I did Battle Maison & it seemed to resist a Super Effective Bulldoze?

m aggron has the same base defense as shuckle and it also becomes a pure steel so it loses its 4x weakness to ground (and fighting) but gains a weakness to fire loses stab for rock type moves and you'll need to keep it away from sp attackers

 

[Alacion]

Mega Aggron isn't a very good special wall but does have Filter to reduce super effective damage by 25%. No reliable recovery so you could always try Sleep Talking?

 

[ImaClubYou]

Mega Aggron is underrated as of now. The plus side of Aggron is he's not actually useless before he Mega forms. He has Rock Head + STAB Head Smash which is pretty devestating. It 2 hit kills even the strongest of walls if Aggron is banded, but clean Head Smash still does a ton.

To give you an example of how good Mega Aggron's defense is...

252 Adamant Garchomp Choice banded EQ does at maximum: 33% damage to 252 HP 252 Defense MAggron with Filter.

 

[IsmaR]

Even with the slightly beneficial type change, it's still not enough to make it even slightly useful on the special side of things. Filter doesn't stop strong, unresisted attacks, and Steel's nerf against Dark/Ghost type attacks mean even things like Shadow Ball will wear it out quickly. That Fire weakness isn't doing it any favors, either. I'm not exactly sure, but I'm thinking that with both the Sp. Def boost Rock types get in Sandstorm, and the ability to use other items (resistance berries, Leftovers, and the Assault Vest especially), along with the combination of Sturdy and what few resistances Rock type brings (mostly Fire, the others just pile on to types Steel already resists. But it does mean it 4x resists Normal/Flying, which comes in handy) makes normal Aggron arguably better at tanking special hits. And as pointed out, STAB Head Smash + Rock Head is a very potent combination, as well as it's other niche ability, Heavy Metal + Heavy Slam (2nd heaviest Poke + STAB make it the best user of the move/ability).

It's pretty much just preference, like with many other Mega Evolutions. I'd save my Mega stone holder for someone else.
(actually dislike how Mega Aggron looks, too. Original has been one of my favs since Gen III, and it only keeps getting better)

 

[ImaClubYou]

Yeah. He rised in the tier list slightly because of Fairy types. He is one of my favorite Gen III Pokemon as well.

Another thing to note is that both Normal and Mega Aggron are one of the few dudes that completely wall Talonflame. Lately, I haven't seen much of them around, though.

 

[UltiMario]

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 236-281 (68.6 - 81.6%)

I wouldn't exactly call that walling

 

[ImaClubYou]

If Talonflame is trying to kill itself as well that's fine.

Besides, any offensive Pokemon at + 2 is a threat to everything.

 

[Damittom]

Nice battle ICY Knockoff on CB Crawdaunt too good.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

Speaking of Mega Aggron, I found my 2nd most wanted shiny Duosion (get!), then traded it for a Shiny Aggron.

 

[ImaClubYou]

GG. I didn't even know Crawdaunt was banded until I saw it Knocked Off.

 

[Fluttershy]

btw imaclubyou did you use a scarfed Moltres against me or was that your brother? it was like on Friday/Saturday or so..

also has anyone used m-doom yet

and i think people don't seem to read/care about the comments on the gts i tried to get contrary snivy by depositing but failed twice and looking for it usually costs a legendary...

 

[ImaClubYou]

That's me definitely.

I'm liking Moltres a lot in Rain teams.

 

[Fluttershy]

ok i wasn't sure if it was you or not. but those couple of battles were annoying. out sped my hawlucha, confusion on my only viable counter prevented me from using thunderbolt, and a huge weakness to flying for the rest of my team btw did they unban drizzle with swift swim since entry weather abilities got nerfed? now time to make a counter team lol

 

[ImaClubYou]

I think it's still banned.

Both Politoad and Ninetales seem useless this gen. I'd rather set up one with a Damp Rock or Heat Rock held. Since you mentioned that, though... My Kingdra has yet to impress me. I don't really see what it's good for as of late. It does have a niche with Focus Energy and Sniper, but I don't feel like breeding one, lol.

 

[Fluttershy]

reason i asked is because they didn't show it in the rules or at least i didn't see it there.. yeah you can blame Charizard Y for that lol though (m)Ttar still wins though

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

OMG FREAKIN' SHINY HAWLUCHA GET! 6th VI Gen Get!
2 shinies in one day!
THE WORLD IS MINE!!

 

[Reizilla]

If you can get in a Tailwind, BP Agility or Trick Room, Mega Aggron is ridiculous.

 

[ImaClubYou]

Congratz Vegito. You have a shiny I want, lol.

Hawlucha for ubers.

 

[Respectre]

I am opening myself up to trades and VGC Double Battles.

Just.. forgive me if I happen to be in the middle of something. IDK if there's any indication of being busy if you're in an in-game battle/loitering in the PC box like I tend to do sometimes.

Also, added Reizilla.

 

[ImaClubYou]

I'm looking for Zapdos. Anybody got one they don't need? I'll trade for it.

 

[IsmaR]

Not unless Pokebank comes out sometime soon, I'm afraid. Have a bunch with Heat Wave and useful Hidden Powers, and even a few from XD: GoD with Baton Pass.

 

[UltiMario]

Man ppl be going off in this thread

Drizzle + SwSw isn't banned anymore.

Politoed even fell to uu lol

 

[Fluttershy]

@ ImaClubYou and @ IsmaR my new team is almost complete just need to finish ev training two pokemon and get the four to level 50. I'm already hating on my mega lol

 

[ImaClubYou]

Charizard X can be considered uber. Salamence, an uncommon uber, works just fine in it. Charizard X, pretty much a better Salamence and a different Rayquaza is a really good Pokemon imo.

GG, Rei. Though I wasn't looking for a Double Battle. That'll be my excuse.

 

[Fluttershy]

gg(s) @ IsmaR and @ ImaClubYou . i thought i had used substitute with that moxie salamance. prankster must not activate during the same turn that banette mega evolves.. but still DB has been a disappointment.. and the swampert had a CB

 

[UltiMario]

Club you may have the world record for the sheer density of misusing the word Uber on this board

 

[ImaClubYou]

I'm using the words nicely, thank you very much.

Besides, you have yet to prove your validity with a battle.

 

[IsmaR]

Unfortunately it doesn't. You're forced to either use Protect the turn you transform, or come in on something you threaten (slower Pokemon or things weak to your STAB/weak enough to KO with priority). Your strategy is actually very similar to mine, especially with Phantom Force, but you either need some speed support (Tailwind/Baton Pass) or bring it in at a smart time (something locked into a Choice Band/Scarf Fighting/Normal move, for example) if you plan on setting up. If you are just planning on using it as a Suicide Lead, you're better off running Taunt so that they are forced to fall to D-Bond or switch.

All in all MBanette takes a lot of support, mindgames, and luck to work really well. Which is off-putting for a Mega Evo.

GG indeed. I feel stupid for not paying attention to your Magnezone's item, especially considering that's the item of choice I run on mine.

 

[Fluttershy]

imaclubyou fell for it as well but then switched out because his salamance was locked into EQ. afterwards i switched PF for protect because slower pokemon would be able to take it out when it comes back. I don't know what to get rid of for taunt though. it has SS as well.. might my have to switch out aerodactyl to get a taunt user with VS, Uturn or something

 

[ImaClubYou]

Yeah. I was gonna say. I EQd it also lol.

 

[IsmaR]

Our connection keeps crapping out, but I think it was pretty obvious you won. GG, <\3 them crits, but <3 predicting/surviving that Explosion.

 

[ImaClubYou]

Thought you'd be more about the double Paralyze from Thunder then the Crit, haha. It was kinda funny that I tried to WoW a Paralyzed Snorlax, lol. I also had to look up Serebii to confirm how fast Togekiss was and Toxicroak is luckily 5 BST faster.

Did Thunder's % to Para increase this gen? My Goodra has been getting them quite a lot.

 

[UltiMario]

I'm using the words nicely, thank you very much.

Besides, you have yet to prove your validity with a battle.

is this man serious

can someone tell me this man isn't serious

 

[ImaClubYou]

Man ppl be going off in this thread

 

[UltiMario]

is this man serious

can someone tell me this man isn't serious

I can quote myself too!!!!

 

[ImaClubYou]

Well then...

My point still stands that ZardX can be usable in ubers. It may be even better than physical Rayquaza.

 

[IsmaR]

You woulda outsped anyway. My Togekiss is Timid, but focuses completely on bulk, lol.

As far as I know, unless there's Serene Grace hax, it's still at 30% for paralysis.

I also just remembered, I <3'd taking out your Crawdaunt with my Slowbro. Truth be told, that was what I was most afraid of the entire game.