A1lion835
Smash Champion
Alright, as I'm sure we've all seen, our uthrow can stagespike a few people on a few stages. This is gonna be where I post results I or T!Mmy or anyone else has found. First, in case you haven't seen this, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf6fhmS9Ytc
Alright, so we know this works vs lucario on PS1. T!Mmy also posted this on AiB:
Search a character or stage's name in square brackets [] to find he/her/it/potato.
New!: All links are colored in Tan. If it's in the format (A:BC-D:EF) after part of a list, it means it's in approximately that time frame in the vid.
New!: All paranthetical text that says restrictions for Ninja Spiking or any odd occurrences when Ninja Spiked is colored in Sky Blue.
Characters:
[Bowser]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Captain Falcon]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Charizard]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Diddy Kong]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Donkey Kong]
Big Blue
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Falco]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Fox]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Ganondorf]
Big Blue
Frigate Orpheon
Lylat Cruise
New Pork City (only on the leftmost edge)
Skyworld
Spear Pillar (Top 2 edges send him downwards and slightly behind kirby; bottom 2 edges cause something to interrupt a uthrow kirbycide)
[Ice Climbers]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Pokemon Stadium 1
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Ike]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Ivysaur]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Jigglypuff]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[King Dedede]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Kirby]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Link]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Lucario]
Big Blue
Frigate Orpheon
Lylat Cruise
New Pork City
Pirate Ship
Pokemon Stadium 1
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Lucas]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Luigi]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Mario]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Marth]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Meta Knight]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Mr. Game & Watch]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Ness]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Olimar]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Peach]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Pikachu]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Pit]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[R.O.B.]
Big Blue
Hyrule Temple
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Samus]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Sheik]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Snake]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Pokemon Stadium 1
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Sonic]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Squirtle]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Toon Link]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Wario]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Wolf]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Yoshi]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Zelda]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Zero Suit Samus]
Big Blue
Frigate Orpheon
Lylat Cruise
New Pork City
Pirate Ship
Pokemon Stadium 1
Skyworld
Spear Pillar (only works occasionally)
Stages:
[Big Blue]
Bowser
Captain Falcon
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Falco
Fox
Game & Watch
Ganondorf
Ice Climbers
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Lucario
Lucas
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Meta Knight
Ness
Olimar
Peach
Pikachu
Pit
ROB
Samus
Sheik
Snake
Sonic
Toon Link
Wario
Wolf
Yoshi
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus
[Frigate Orpheon]
Ganondorf
Lucario
Zero Suit Samus
[Hyrule Temple]
R.O.B.
[Lylat Cruise]
Bowser
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Falco
Fox
Ganondorf
Ivysaur
Ike
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Lucario
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Meta Knight
Mr. Game&Watch
Olimar
Pikachu
Pit
Peach
Samus
Snake
Sonic
Squirtle
Toon Link
Wario
Wolf
Yoshi
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus
[New Pork City]
Ganondorf
Lucario
Zero Suit Samus
[Pirate Ship]
Lucario (only on the head of the King of Red Lions, when it's rising)
Zero Suit Samus (only on the head of the King of Red Lions, when it's rising)
[Pokemon Stadium 1] (Upthrow Kirbycide Video)
Ice Climbers
Lucario
Snake
Zero Suit Samus
[Skyworld]
Bowser
Captain Falcon
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Falco
Fox
Game & Watch
Ganondorf
Ice Climbers
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Lucario
Lucas
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Meta Knight
Ness
Olimar
Peach
Pikachu
Pit
ROB
Samus
Sheik
Snake
Sonic
Toon Link
Wario
Wolf
Yoshi
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus
[Spear Pillar]
Bowser Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Captain Falcon Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Diddy Kong Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Donkey Kong Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Falco Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Fox Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Mr. Game & Watch Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Ganondorf (top 2 edges send him down and to kirby's back; bottom 2 edges cause something to interrupt a uthrow kirbycide)
Ice Climbers Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Ike Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Jigglypuff Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
King Dedede Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Kirby Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Link Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Lucario (top 2 edges send him horizontally; bottom 2 edges cause something to interrupt a uthrow kirbycide)
Lucas Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Luigi Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Mario Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Marth Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Meta Knight Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Ness Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Olimar Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Peach Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Pikachu Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Pit Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
ROB Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Samus Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Sheik Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Snake Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Sonic Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Toon Link Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Wario Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Wolf Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Yoshi Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Zelda Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Zero Suit Samus (only works occasionally, testing should reveal why) (top 2 edges send her horizontally; bottom 2 edges cause something to interrupt a uthrow kirbycide)
Other helper-people:
: mad: (formerly straked)
thrillagorilla
BlazingKataKiri
Potential Pokemon Stadium 1 Techinque
Snake can be NS'd on PS1 during the water part of the stage on the left side, the side with the windmill. The popular theory is that Kirby attempts to land on the windmill, but that it changes its angle while Kirby is touching it so that it no longer counts as ground, causing Kirby to slide off and fall below the stage, Ninja Spiking the opponent.
So far, Snake is the only character this is known to work on. Any help researching would be appreciated.
Update List:
3/8/09: Thread Started
3/9/09: Ike added on Jungle Japes; pretty colors!
3/10/09:Evil Mods made me sad when they wouldn't sticky this
3/13/09: Thrillagorilla joins the testing crew
3/14/09: It's pi day!
3/14/09: BlazingKataKiri joins the testing crew
3/14/09: New info on Big Blue, Skyworld and New Pork City!
3/14/09: New info on Lylat Cruise
3/14/09: Added links to a few of the vids
3/16/09: Added a few links to the stages; they'd only been on the character list
3/16/09: Dubbed the Ninja Spike, as T!Mmy suggested
3/20/09: I view this thread after 4 days of not and post a bunch of characters for Lylat, courtesy of thrillagorilla.
3/20/09: Search a character or stage in square brackets to find him/her/it!
3/20/09: New Zero Suit Samus info!
3/27/09: New info: Toon Link on Big Blue!
3/27/09: I began putting "(Last Update: ______) in the title (yes, sad update)
3/29/09: Added the first "New!:" thing
3/29/09: Added colors and sizes to helper people
4/3/09: Added every character on Big Blue
4/10/09: Finally alphabetized the character list!
4/10/09: Alphabetization allows me to figure out which characters were missing; all missing ones added!
4/12/09: Alphabetized all stages in the Character Stage Stage format; added Lylat Cruise and Skyworld for all characters that didn't already have them
4/14/09: New info for Ganondorf on Frigate Orpheon, New Pork City and Spear Pillar!
4/14/09: Alphabetized all stages in the Stage Character Character format
4/14/09: Added second "New!:" thing
4/14/09: Colored update list!
4/14/09: Fixed Skyworld list
4/17/09: New info: Lucario on Pirate Ship!
4/20/09: Finished all alphabetizing!
4/21/09: New info for Zero Suit Samus on Pirate Ship!
4/23/09: Added a limitation on her character stage stage format I'd forgotten to do
5/16/09: Added Spear Pillar for all chars, because it's technically possible on the bottom 2 edges, but then again, it's not technically an NS. Mostly updated so I feel better about the progress >.>
5/16/09: Took Pokemon Trainer off all lists: not a separate char.
9/16/09: Posted new Snake NS on PS1 and what it could mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf6fhmS9Ytc
Alright, so we know this works vs lucario on PS1. T!Mmy also posted this on AiB:
In case you didn't want to read all of that, he says that this also works on every ledge on Spear Pillar and the first part of Frigate Orpheon and that this works on ZSS except on Spear Pillar. Here's a list of people we know this can be done to, listed both as Character Stage Stage and Stage Character Character. Feel free to PM me or anyone else researching this with me.t1mmy said:To everyone:
I found out for myself that this also works on Spear Pillar and Frigate Orpheon. It works on all four edges of Spear Pillar, and only on one of the stage configurations for Frigate - the first one that you start on, under the platform on the left hand side (it won't work on the right hand side with the platform that goes up and down, nor on the pseudo-edge that is made when the platform leaves the stage).
Also, this works on ZSS except for on Spear Pillar.
I did all the above research myself. I doubt it's on Smashboards. XD
Edit:
I just checked this out on SWF and the only info was that it works on ZSS and that there's something weird about Shiek. The U-throw didn't work on Shiek when I tested it, but I'll go take another look at it and see what's odd about her.
Search a character or stage's name in square brackets [] to find he/her/it/potato.
New!: All links are colored in Tan. If it's in the format (A:BC-D:EF) after part of a list, it means it's in approximately that time frame in the vid.
New!: All paranthetical text that says restrictions for Ninja Spiking or any odd occurrences when Ninja Spiked is colored in Sky Blue.
Characters:
[Bowser]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Captain Falcon]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Charizard]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Diddy Kong]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Donkey Kong]
Big Blue
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Falco]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Fox]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Ganondorf]
Big Blue
Frigate Orpheon
Lylat Cruise
New Pork City (only on the leftmost edge)
Skyworld
Spear Pillar (Top 2 edges send him downwards and slightly behind kirby; bottom 2 edges cause something to interrupt a uthrow kirbycide)
[Ice Climbers]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Pokemon Stadium 1
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Ike]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Ivysaur]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Jigglypuff]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[King Dedede]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Kirby]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Link]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Lucario]
Big Blue
Frigate Orpheon
Lylat Cruise
New Pork City
Pirate Ship
Pokemon Stadium 1
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Lucas]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Luigi]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Mario]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Marth]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Meta Knight]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Mr. Game & Watch]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Ness]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Olimar]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Peach]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Pikachu]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Pit]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[R.O.B.]
Big Blue
Hyrule Temple
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Samus]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Sheik]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Snake]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Pokemon Stadium 1
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Sonic]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Squirtle]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Toon Link]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Wario]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Wolf]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Yoshi]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Zelda]
Big Blue
Lylat Cruise
Skyworld
Spear Pillar
[Zero Suit Samus]
Big Blue
Frigate Orpheon
Lylat Cruise
New Pork City
Pirate Ship
Pokemon Stadium 1
Skyworld
Spear Pillar (only works occasionally)
Stages:
[Big Blue]
Bowser
Captain Falcon
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Falco
Fox
Game & Watch
Ganondorf
Ice Climbers
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Lucario
Lucas
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Meta Knight
Ness
Olimar
Peach
Pikachu
Pit
ROB
Samus
Sheik
Snake
Sonic
Toon Link
Wario
Wolf
Yoshi
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus
[Frigate Orpheon]
Ganondorf
Lucario
Zero Suit Samus
[Hyrule Temple]
R.O.B.
[Lylat Cruise]
Bowser
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Falco
Fox
Ganondorf
Ivysaur
Ike
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Lucario
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Meta Knight
Mr. Game&Watch
Olimar
Pikachu
Pit
Peach
Samus
Snake
Sonic
Squirtle
Toon Link
Wario
Wolf
Yoshi
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus
[New Pork City]
Ganondorf
Lucario
Zero Suit Samus
[Pirate Ship]
Lucario (only on the head of the King of Red Lions, when it's rising)
Zero Suit Samus (only on the head of the King of Red Lions, when it's rising)
[Pokemon Stadium 1] (Upthrow Kirbycide Video)
Ice Climbers
Lucario
Snake
Zero Suit Samus
[Skyworld]
Bowser
Captain Falcon
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Falco
Fox
Game & Watch
Ganondorf
Ice Climbers
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Lucario
Lucas
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Meta Knight
Ness
Olimar
Peach
Pikachu
Pit
ROB
Samus
Sheik
Snake
Sonic
Toon Link
Wario
Wolf
Yoshi
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus
[Spear Pillar]
Bowser Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Captain Falcon Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Diddy Kong Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Donkey Kong Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Falco Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Fox Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Mr. Game & Watch Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Ganondorf (top 2 edges send him down and to kirby's back; bottom 2 edges cause something to interrupt a uthrow kirbycide)
Ice Climbers Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Ike Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Jigglypuff Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
King Dedede Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Kirby Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Link Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Lucario (top 2 edges send him horizontally; bottom 2 edges cause something to interrupt a uthrow kirbycide)
Lucas Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Luigi Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Mario Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Marth Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Meta Knight Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Ness Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Olimar Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Peach Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Pikachu Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Pit Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
ROB Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Samus Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Sheik Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Snake Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Sonic Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Toon Link Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Wario Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Wolf Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Yoshi Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Zelda Bottom 2 edges only; something interrupts a uthrow kirbycide
Zero Suit Samus (only works occasionally, testing should reveal why) (top 2 edges send her horizontally; bottom 2 edges cause something to interrupt a uthrow kirbycide)
Other helper-people:
: mad: (formerly straked)
thrillagorilla
BlazingKataKiri
Potential Pokemon Stadium 1 Techinque
Snake can be NS'd on PS1 during the water part of the stage on the left side, the side with the windmill. The popular theory is that Kirby attempts to land on the windmill, but that it changes its angle while Kirby is touching it so that it no longer counts as ground, causing Kirby to slide off and fall below the stage, Ninja Spiking the opponent.
So far, Snake is the only character this is known to work on. Any help researching would be appreciated.
Update List:
3/8/09: Thread Started
3/9/09: Ike added on Jungle Japes; pretty colors!
3/10/09:
3/13/09: Thrillagorilla joins the testing crew
3/14/09: It's pi day!
3/14/09: BlazingKataKiri joins the testing crew
3/14/09: New info on Big Blue, Skyworld and New Pork City!
3/14/09: New info on Lylat Cruise
3/14/09: Added links to a few of the vids
3/16/09: Added a few links to the stages; they'd only been on the character list
3/16/09: Dubbed the Ninja Spike, as T!Mmy suggested
3/20/09: I view this thread after 4 days of not and post a bunch of characters for Lylat, courtesy of thrillagorilla.
3/20/09: Search a character or stage in square brackets to find him/her/it!
3/20/09: New Zero Suit Samus info!
3/27/09: New info: Toon Link on Big Blue!
3/27/09: I began putting "(Last Update: ______) in the title (yes, sad update)
3/29/09: Added the first "New!:" thing
3/29/09: Added colors and sizes to helper people
4/3/09: Added every character on Big Blue
4/10/09: Finally alphabetized the character list!
4/10/09: Alphabetization allows me to figure out which characters were missing; all missing ones added!
4/12/09: Alphabetized all stages in the Character Stage Stage format; added Lylat Cruise and Skyworld for all characters that didn't already have them
4/14/09: New info for Ganondorf on Frigate Orpheon, New Pork City and Spear Pillar!
4/14/09: Alphabetized all stages in the Stage Character Character format
4/14/09: Added second "New!:" thing
4/14/09: Colored update list!
4/14/09: Fixed Skyworld list
4/17/09: New info: Lucario on Pirate Ship!
4/20/09: Finished all alphabetizing!
4/21/09: New info for Zero Suit Samus on Pirate Ship!
4/23/09: Added a limitation on her character stage stage format I'd forgotten to do
5/16/09: Added Spear Pillar for all chars, because it's technically possible on the bottom 2 edges, but then again, it's not technically an NS. Mostly updated so I feel better about the progress >.>
5/16/09: Took Pokemon Trainer off all lists: not a separate char.
9/16/09: Posted new Snake NS on PS1 and what it could mean.