The Official Link Discussion Thread

[Link Sharingan]

i almost never lose whit link in SSB or SSM

Ya. Nair.

I would like a boost in attack speed and dodging speed. I don't care about movement speed, but I'd like for him to be able to roll quickly like in the games.

i agreed

 

[Wyvern]

um...nair?

I said it would be nice if he had more options besides just the neutral air. Something useable on the ground that takes advantage of his range would be nice. Like if his down tilt was changed to that really quick jab out of the shield from Ocarina of Time, for example. (I don't think the current down tilt is really much faster than the down smash anyway...)

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

@Link Specialist,
Sakurai might have given the spark an effect, but it's actually a cosmetic change from Twilight Princess. His sword sparkles after his sword spin to inform the player it's ready to be spun again, and possibly something else but I forget, been a while.

@Wyvern,
Wouldn't that jab be pretty much the same as Marth/Roy dtilt from Melee?

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

It would be nice to literally see all of the moves from TP merged into SSBB into Link's moveset. Mortal Draw for his Forward Smash, Helm Splitter for his Bair or Fair, and maybe his Up-B has a chance of doing Great Spin and increasing both it's range and power.

I dunno, it's just an idea. I know one thing. It would be both awesome and a little cheap if Link during the middle of his roll could hit A and quickly do a spiraling spin upwards with his sword (Back Spin anyone?)

 

[lanky_gunner]

i really don't want link having his moves changed. i love all his moves already, and making them the same in twilight princess would lose my familiarity with link

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

If you were a true LoZ fan, you'd adapt. After all, isn't that the spirit of Link? Adapt or die? He has to learn to use what he's got in order to defeat his foes.

And come on now, you can't tell me that Back Spin wouldn't be freakin sweet! Or Mortal Draw!

 

[lonewolfe]

The new footstooling technique could be used for the Helm splitter if I remember it correctly...

O.o who knows what kind of attacks you could do right after/during a footstool (w/ link)

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

Heeel YA! That would rock! Link bounches, you hit A and Link peforms the Helm Splitter! I wonder what direction it would knock you in though...Down? Forward? Backwards? Potato?

 

[lonewolfe]

Heeel YA! That would rock! Link bounches, you hit A and Link peforms the Helm Splitter! I wonder what direction it would knock you in though...Down? Forward? Backwards? Potato?

Definitely potato!

I'm definitely looking forward to jumping on some people's heads, though....maybe there will be an instructional video update. probably not ><

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

Link, the new Mario...

Lawl.

 

[the grim lizard]

He should have a better roll for crying out loud. He does the stinkin' parry attack in TP...

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

I hear ya on that. I mean, in the game, while Link isn't insanely fast, he isn't a slow poke either. When he rolls or backflips or something, he doesn't take forever to do so. Why he does so in SSB is beyond me.

 

[lonewolfe]

I hear ya on that. I mean, in the game, while Link isn't insanely fast, he isn't a slow poke either. When he rolls or backflips or something, he doesn't take forever to do so. Why he does so in SSB is beyond me.

*crosses fingers* lets hope he's quicker.

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

I keep telling people, a quicker Link could EASILY make High Tier. He's balanced as it is, but can force an opponent to keep on his/her/it's/potato's toes. No matter where you stand, Link can kick your arse!

 

[lanky_gunner]

If you were a true LoZ fan, you'd adapt. After all, isn't that the spirit of Link? Adapt or die? He has to learn to use what he's got in order to defeat his foes.

And come on now, you can't tell me that Back Spin wouldn't be freakin sweet! Or Mortal Draw!

oh i'd still use him. he's link, i'd use him no matter what.

but don't tell me you wouldn't be upset if the familiarity you once knew was scrapped for something completely diffrent

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

oh i'd still use him. he's link, i'd use him no matter what.

but don't tell me you wouldn't be upset if the familiarity you once knew was scrapped for something completely diffrent

Naw. I mean, at first it would be a little difficult to learn his moves again, but for the sake of being a LoZ fanboy, I'd master him all over again, not to mention his new TP attacks are sweet as all get out.

And I'd use Link no matter what, but I'd like for Link to have some time in the spot light instead of being screwed over in favor of slightly less popular characters.

 

[LinkSpecialist]

Wouldn't it be great if Link can use the Great Spin after not using he's spin attack for a while (sorta like Wario's with his, shall we say gas attack). Or maybe if his percentage is at 0 he could use it. That would be perfect for avenger KOs.

The first one sounds better to me.

 

[lonewolfe]

Wouldn't it be great if Link can use the Great Spin after not using he's spin attack for a while (sorta like Wario's with his, shall we say gas attack). Or maybe if his percentage is at 0 he could use it. That would be perfect for avenger KOs.

The first one sounds better to me.

Maybe the Great Spin will be a misfire like Luigi?

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

We're talking about the TP Great Spin, right? Well, if we are, Link's sword sparkles after he uses the spin attack, to show that it's ready to use again. I've noticed that it does sparkle a little bit in Brawl, and I've always been curious as to whether it has any effect or indicates something like it does in TP.

No matter how good he is, if Celda/WW Link is in Brawl, TP Link is earning his spot amongst the spider webs in the basement.

Although it would be nice to see some difference in his moves, which it seems that Sakurai decided to agree with me after the original E3 trailer, as his F-smash in it is the same as Melee, but in the "Smash Attack" update on the Dojo, it seems he's got a new Smash attack, whether it's his Forward one or not, it's definitely new, kinda like Cito's swordstyle from Rurouni Kenshin. Looks awesome!

 

[krackizwak]

Im really intrested to see how much his moves have changed. I'll use him regardless of what happens to him though. Im just hoping he gets a better tier spot this time around, I mean its freaking link and hes getting out done by fox that just doesnt seem right to me. aThough it is fun kicking the crap out of people when you are WAY lower tier then they are.

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

No matter how good he is, if Celda/WW Link is in Brawl, TP Link is earning his spot amongst the spider webs in the basement.

....Methinks you underestimate the awesomeness of TP Link. I'm sorry, but a rubbery-marshmallow Link can't stand up to the sheer awesomeness, the skill, the power of TP Link. WW Link is funny and all, but TP Link is the Link I want to play as when I'm facing down Metaknight or Pit in an epic duel.

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

....Methinks you underestimate the awesomeness of TP Link. I'm sorry, but a rubbery-marshmallow Link can't stand up to the sheer awesomeness, the skill, the power of TP Link. WW Link is funny and all, but TP Link is the Link I want to play as when I'm facing down Metaknight or Pit in an epic duel.

...Methinks you underestimate the sheer insanity that would ensue and just ooze all over the place from WW Link. You can attack me with your super-powered, super-already-seen-and-known moves while I pop up and start throwing all kinds of crazy sh*t and gadgets at you, not knowing what the h*ll is going on.

 

[LinkSpecialist]

Every one has seen the tuck n roll move from the second trailer. Do you think you'll able to attack while on the floor? what move do you think he should use? Maybe he can roll to his feet while turning around to do the Back Slice. That'd be fun.

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

...Methinks you underestimate the sheer insanity that would ensue and just ooze all over the place from WW Link. You can attack me with your super-powered, super-already-seen-and-known moves while I pop up and start throwing all kinds of crazy sh*t and gadgets at you, not knowing what the h*ll is going on.

I doubt WW Link would have that much differnent things from TP Link, besides the extra things in WW that TP didn't have. Big whoop, a skull hammer. Not really that frightening.

Now Mortal Draw and Back Spin? WW Link beware.

 

[LinkSpecialist]

Everyone is all about wanting more speed for Link. Link should also be stronger now that his sword glows now. i've noticed that there are a lot of characters that can easily overpower Link, even if he has a sword. If Link can't be stronger, at least let him be more flexable. An opponent can easily strike Link even if he dodges, rolls, jumps. you name it.

Link's new boomerang ponders my head the most. The Gale Boomerang is an opportunities for a lot of things.

Throwing it tapping the button (even smash taps) should act like it does in Melee.

Link could charge the boomerang for added effects for things like...

...not only hits but goes through eniemes making face the other direction.

...Brings back at least one item caught by the wind and puts it in Links hands.

...remember the tornado in the N64 Smashbros? Like that, but on smaller scale.

...catches throwing items tossed at link returns them to their sender.

Thats all the ideas I have for the Boomerang for now.

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

Everyone is all about wanting more speed for Link. Link should also be stronger now that his sword glows now. i've noticed that there are a lot of characters that can easily overpower Link, even if he has a sword. If Link can't be stronger, at least let him be more flexable. An opponent can easily strike Link even if he dodges, rolls, jumps. you name it.

Link's new boomerang ponders my head the most. The Gale Boomerang is an opportunities for a lot of things.

Throwing it tapping the button (even smash taps) should act like it does in Melee.

Link could charge the boomerang for added effects for things like...

...not only hits but goes through eniemes making face the other direction.

...Brings back at least one item caught by the wind and puts it in Links hands.

...remember the tornado in the N64 Smashbros? Like that, but on smaller scale.

...catches throwing items tossed at link returns them to their sender.

Thats all the ideas I have for the Boomerang for now.

And I like every idea. I really like the N64 idea with the tornado on a smaller scale, because it could be theoretically be used for juggling, or possibly even kills.

 

[L!NK]

Link has always been my main guy! With all the weapons he uses that makes him one hell of a fighter! In Brawl they made him even cooler! I can't wait to use Link in Brawl. I want to try out that Triforce Slash........

 

[Xzax Kasrani]

i love link but luigi is better luigi and falco for brawl!

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

I'd just like to remind every, especially Ogre Link, that I call the new Young Link "WW Link" solely as a lack of a better name. Wind Waker started his design, but for WW and Phantom Houglass specifically is he cel-shaded. His general design, large eyes, designless clothes with light-colored sleeves of the same color, etc, are the official look of Young Link. So, unless they make him specific to Wind Waker, he could most definitely have a whole slew of crazy gadgets and whatnot, items from his different games such as Four Swords, WW, and Minish Cap.
And they are all expressed in my moveset for WW Link which is in my sig.

I do hope that he gets the Gale Boomerang. Well, I doubt he won't have it, but I do doubt he'd have the Gale Boomerang's ability, which if transfered into Smash would probably be something like a very ranged PK Fire, which would be ridiculously powerful.

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

Good WW Link moveset. Well, we each have our own fav Link (and I would have to play WW Link if he was in Brawl) but all in all, mine so far is TP Link.

I wonder if he could possibly use his Shield Bash? Sort of like a reflector, but if it hits, it stuns the opponent with like minimal damage. (1%-2%?)

 

[LinkSpecialist]

I like the shield Bash idea you got there.

The weapons and items Link uses so far (assuming this is what Link has in Brawl)

Master Sword
Hyrule Shield
Hero's Bow
Bombs
Gale Boomerang
Clawshot

So what else are some items that can be used in Brawl from TP? I'll try to apply so theses moves don't interfere with any of Link's existing moves.


Double Clawshot - theres a good number of uses for this gem. Some uses are...


...Using the second Clawshot as another extra jump. An example would be Clawshot, Jump, Second Clawshot, Jump again, Spin attack. This would be very useful when you use up the first Clawshot to latch to the ledge and drop down again for a second time.

...Second grab? what if Link misses his first attempt grab and it leaves him open, Link could use the second clawshot he has for another try, using the Second clawshot should leave him wide open for a burtal counter.

...while latched to a wall via Clawshot aiming the second clawshot would be INCREDEBLE! think about it. What is something Link can't do that others can.....walljump. The Second Clawshot could act like Link's own version of walljumping. he'll be slower than most who can Walljump but, unlike others, he can take his time climbing up walls at his own rate. He should be able to do this only eight times in a row, that way cheaters won't be able to delay for much time during a match.


Iron Boots - I haven't given this much thought. theses are the only ideas I have, maybe you can use this...


...for fall falling. Link's speed doesn't change much when you tap down. The Iron Boots should appear to make Link's fall faster at a high speed. If Link falls from a high enough distance, he should cause a shockwave when he lands leaving eneimes stunned for a short time.

...while Link grabs an enemy. Let's face it a boot to the gut is sorta ok for a throw, but an Iron Boot to the gut would pack a wallop! This should be applied to Link forward and back throw. This could be a throw that may be actually lethal.


Ball and Chain - this one is hard to apply to Link's already fearsome arsenal. how about using it for...


...Link's Fair. The spinning sword attack should be as is, but it's when you smash tap Link should bring out the Ball and Chain and crush anywho unlucky enough to meet this fate (sorta like Kirby's foward+B, but in one loop). Not only should this Spike, but potentially shatter someone's shield.


Funny thing is I came up with theses ideas on spot. This'll help Link reach top tier in no time!

 

[lanky_gunner]

i don't see a change in moveset, but i do see a change in items. his hookshot will probably be replaced by the clawshot, and he may get the gale boomerang

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

I like the shield Bash idea you got there.

The weapons and items Link uses so far (assuming this is what Link has in Brawl)

Master Sword
Hyrule Shield
Hero's Bow
Bombs
Gale Boomerang
Clawshot

So what else are some items that can be used in Brawl from TP? I'll try to apply so theses moves don't interfere with any of Link's existing moves.


Double Clawshot - theres a good number of uses for this gem. Some uses are...


...Using the second Clawshot as another extra jump. An example would be Clawshot, Jump, Second Clawshot, Jump again, Spin attack. This would be very useful when you use up the first Clawshot to latch to the ledge and drop down again for a second time.

...Second grab? what if Link misses his first attempt grab and it leaves him open, Link could use the second clawshot he has for another try, using the Second clawshot should leave him wide open for a burtal counter.

...while latched to a wall via Clawshot aiming the second clawshot would be INCREDEBLE! think about it. What is something Link can't do that others can.....walljump. The Second Clawshot could act like Link's own version of walljumping. he'll be slower than most who can Walljump but, unlike others, he can take his time climbing up walls at his own rate. He should be able to do this only eight times in a row, that way cheaters won't be able to delay for much time during a match.


Iron Boots - I haven't given this much thought. theses are the only ideas I have, maybe you can use this...


...for fall falling. Link's speed doesn't change much when you tap down. The Iron Boots should appear to make Link's fall faster at a high speed. If Link falls from a high enough distance, he should cause a shockwave when he lands leaving eneimes stunned for a short time.

...while Link grabs an enemy. Let's face it a boot to the gut is sorta ok for a throw, but an Iron Boot to the gut would pack a wallop! This should be applied to Link forward and back throw. This could be a throw that may be actually lethal.


Ball and Chain - this one is hard to apply to Link's already fearsome arsenal. how about using it for...


...Link's Fair. The spinning sword attack should be as is, but it's when you smash tap Link should bring out the Ball and Chain and crush anywho unlucky enough to meet this fate (sorta like Kirby's foward+B, but in one loop). Not only should this Spike, but potentially shatter someone's shield.


Funny thing is I came up with theses ideas on spot. This'll help Link reach top tier in no time!

I absolutely love your ideas. I wonder if it would be possible to even use the Spinner? I've heard rumors of customizable movesets (rumors mind you) so maybe Link players can exchange some items for others.

As long as I can have my Back Spin and Mortal Draw, I'm a happy Link player. If not, the absolute least I demand is a speed increase for Link.

 

[LinkSpecialist]

It'd be great if Link can use the Mortal draw while taunting. Fool everyone near him!

 

[Wyvern]

Hey, that could actually work really well. He could do the whole Twilight Princess flourish, complete with the sheathing of his sword, and then you could optionally press A within a couple seconds to do the Mortal Draw. And it's not like Link couldn't use a good taunt for a change...

 

[LinkSpecialist]

Applying the Seven Secret Skills to Link's moveset

1:Ending Blow
how to use: Down+A while in midair
Description: This is already in melee and brawl, no worries.

2:Shield Attack
how to use: R(or L)+B
Description: while holding he's guard up, Link will thrust his shield forward and Bash anyone who is close enough to him. Whoever is hit will be stumble backwards for just a bit, leaving enough time for Link to hit his opponent. Also this should block any projecties, except energy blasts, where as they reflect off of Link's shield.

3:Back Slice
how to use: Tuck n Roll (however you are suppose to use it in brawl)+A
Description: During a Tuck n Roll (thats what I'm calling it for now) Link turns around on his feet and Slashes anyone in front of him. This move should act more like a juggling move rather then a lethal blow.

4:Helm Spliter
how to use: Platform jump+A
Description: while on top of someone's head Link slashes downward flipping himself as an extra jump. This should pop up anyone hit and spike anyone caught in the air.


I would Like to write the rest, but I'm a bit busy right now. Thanks for the ideas thoses with great minds.

 

[the grim lizard]

It would be nice if they gave more technique to Link's game...

 

[ArticulateT]

I think Link is okay the way he is. the ideas people are throwing in are nice though. I like the idea of a customizable moveset (being honest, I would trade the bombs in for something different)

I would think that the reason why Link is slowish is because he's got to lug around all that stuff, but yeah, he could do with a bit of a speed boost.

the helm splitter attack after using a footstool jump is a very good idea. it would make a very effective combo.

 

[the grim lizard]

bombs are one of his best items...actually, probably his best item

 

[ArticulateT]

perhaps, but I guess that, during melee and the 64 version, I had gotten used to a strategy that didn't use the bombs very much. I guess I could try adapting before brawl arrives on british soil