The Official Link Discussion Thread

[lanky_gunner]

i've played Link and Mario since the original, and that's not going to change. i'm just adding another character to my favorite/main list

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

Link and Wario for me.

Well, as of now. I'm sure Sakurai will throw some more characters out there that I will have to main.

 

[AAbatterie]

Link has always been my main character, and pretty much the only character I'm good with. I love how you can use his bombs, boomerangs, and bombs; it helps out a lot in matches.

 

[Breakfast]

Link's up B better be worse and his Landing On Peoples Heads thing is too strong... Too easy... All round he was probably the best in melee and this BALANCE focus will be GREAT!!!! That's all I have to say


Noticed Banjo pic... He better be in Brawl

 

[Breakfast]

I almost cried when I first got a glimpse of brawl.... I've been waiting since ssb64 for Meta Knight

 

[the grim lizard]

Why why why whyyy Wii?? Why'd you have to do it, Wii?? You shoulda just made it so you had to use the Wiimote in the left hand. I wouldn't have minded...

Actually, he's left-handed in every game, except the Wii version of TP. In LoZ2 for the NES, he's like ambidextrous or something because whenever you turn around, the sword/shield is in the other hand. He was also right-handed in the 80's cartoon.

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

Link's up B better be worse and his Landing On Peoples Heads thing is too strong... Too easy... All round he was probably the best in melee and this BALANCE focus will be GREAT!!!! That's all I have to say


Noticed Banjo pic... He better be in Brawl

There are so many things wrong with this post, I don't know where to start. Lesse here....

1.) Link's Up-B is an extremely veratile as well as fair. I don't know about you, but I realized fairly quickly that his Up-B had extremely high lag afterwards and wasn't too hard to dodge if you know what was coming.

2.) The landing-on-people's-heads move is also a very fair move because if you miss, even if you L-cancel, you will be punished for it. Same if they decide to guard or simply sidestep.

3.) Link isn't the best on Melee, even though I believe he should be amongst the best. In fact, he's low tier and no matter how many people tell you the tiers are only based on popularity or other B.S. it's based on skill. If Shiek wasn't so broken, I guarntee you she'd be WAAAAAY lower on the polls.

4.) If anything, Link is underpowered, or at least in the speed department. His moves are very laggy, not to say anything about his movement speed and his roll is too slow to be even close to Link's ability flavor wise. I think (hope) that Sakurai is going to correct some of these errors and make Link a force to be reckoned with. (I hope.)

 

[Whisk]

I do have to agree with Diety's points on Link's lagging. Such as yesterday I was playing as Zelda (just Zelda, no Sheik involved) against a Lv9 CPU Link on Final Destination (no items). And everytime Link would attempt to grab me with the Clawshot, I noticed a lag so I step out of range walk up and grab him instead. So despite him having a ranged grab attack, if you can predict it, then it leaves Link open to attacks.

His Swordspin seems pretty fair when it comes to recovery or an aerial move, it doesn't cause any real knockback in unless your hit with the final strike, however the on the ground is a different story, especially when your opponent is spamming it. And his down B (Ending Blow) leaves him vulnerable too, although Link is lucky enough to have a sheild that is pretty cheap. (Being that it can block almost anything, even a fully-charged Super Scope.)

And another note: In a all out Brawl against 3 CPU's, Link is a dirty little KO stealer. Same thing goes for Luigi.

 

[1wingedangel]

Has anyone else noticed that Link appears to be left-handed in all of the Brawl screenshots? He has been right-handed in all other games; seems strange that they would switch it over... kind of irks me. Does this bother anyone else, or just me? :embarrass


edit: This not only includes his sword/shield setup, but the way in which he shoots his bow is as a left-handed person would, too.

What are you talking about?! Link has been left-handed in ALL ohter games. Ok he was right- handed in the Wii version of twilight princess but this was nothing that a bad copy of the real twilight princess for Game Cube.

Link has to be a lefty otherwise he would't be the real link anymore.

greets

1wingedangel

 

[lonewolfe]

Whisk: way to go on the wanting of Zant to be in Brawl, that'd be awesome

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

I wonder if it would make Link TOO cheap if they ditched Y.Link and just gave his speed to Link instead...

 

[Aeramis]

I wonder if it would make Link TOO cheap if they ditched Y.Link and just gave his speed to Link instead...

Well, I don't know about him being as fast as y.link but he does look abit faster in the trailers. Then again maybe it is just cause everyone else seems abit slowed down.

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

Well if everyone was slowed down, wouldn't that make Link like.....Super uber slow? I mean, I doubt they'd just slow everyone else down and make Link look fast...there's not really any reason behind it.

 

[Breakfast]

Links up B should be weaker

He should be generally slower

I loved his really short survival in ssb64
It was like he pwnd everything then died. Anything could happen

AND MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT
Is it just me or is Links landing on peoples heads thing WAY WAY WAY too powerfull
It's just too easy you know

 

[Aeramis]

Naw, it looks like Link is the same speed and most of the fast chars are abit slower. Which should help balance the game more.

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

If that were the case, I would be so freaking happy. Oh, and Breakfast? Look about a page or so back. Link is far from being Way way way way too powerful. In fact, quite the opposite. Link needs some touching up before he can play with the big boys. But with this supposed speed boost they may have given him, this may be his big chance....

*grins with delight*

 

[Whisk]

Whisk: way to go on the wanting of Zant to be in Brawl, that'd be awesome

Thanks for agreeing with me; I'd think he'd make a great addition for Brawl.

The perfect Zelda Roster (in my opinion):
Link - Zelda - Ganondorf - Midna - Zant - WW Link?

There you have the traditional triforce three, the main star of Twilight Princess, a crazy villian who would add humor to Smash, and a "luigified Link" who acts much different from his TP/Oot counterpart.

 

[mada0207]

link link is my best and if he doesn't have the same moves and combos like in melee and 64 then i just hav to cancel my pre-order

 

[lonewolfe]

Thanks for agreeing with me; I'd think he'd make a great addition for Brawl.

The perfect Zelda Roster (in my opinion):
Link - Zelda - Ganondorf - Midna - Zant - WW Link?

There you have the traditional triforce three, the main star of Twilight Princess, a crazy villian who would add humor to Smash, and a "luigified Link" who acts much different from his TP/Oot counterpart.

When you say Midna do you mean with Wolf Link? or w/o?

Because I can't imagine Midna walking on her own two feet since she rides Link all the time....But her Final Smash could be warping someone .....

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

I'm not for only midna being playable, but I could so totally go for Wolf Link w/ or w/out midna.

 

[Whisk]

When you say Midna do you mean with Wolf Link? or w/o?

Because I can't imagine Midna walking on her own two feet since she rides Link all the time....But her Final Smash could be warping someone .....

It doesn't really matter to me weather she has Wolf Link or not; she'd make a great addition to the roster. Though It'd be nice for him to be included, it's kind of hard to see them get sent flying without Midna falling off.

However with them both you'll not only have a another choice for a duo character, but also giving the fans a two-for-one deal of what they want.

 

[Gamewolf13]

(I hope I'm not repeating something)

But I have two LOZ/Brawl questions:

Anyone think Link will transform into wolf link like Zelda transforms into Sheik?
And
Will Zelda still do the Sheik Switch? Since her style is from TP where she never does go sheik...

(If These questions have been answered or discussed please please please give me the links to them I am so bad at searching)

(I haven't read the thread if I'm being stupid because it was right behind me or something just ignore me I'll figure it out.)

 

[lonewolfe]

It doesn't really matter to me weather she has Wolf Link or not; she'd make a great addition to the roster. Though It'd be nice for him to be included, it's kind of hard to see them get sent flying without Midna falling off.

However with them both you'll not only have a another choice for a duo character, but also giving the fans a two-for-one deal of what they want.

Midna's recovery would be awesome because of her hand thing that sprouts from her head, and her riding Wolf Link would be weird if they got knocked from the stage, good point.

Maybe a Midna (w/ or w/o Wolf Link) AT?

 

[the grim lizard]

Links up B should be weaker

He should be generally slower

I loved his really short survival in ssb64
It was like he pwnd everything then died. Anything could happen

AND MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT
Is it just me or is Links landing on peoples heads thing WAY WAY WAY too powerfull
It's just too easy you know

Are you serious??

Why should his up-B be weaker? Why don't we just take away his sword altogether?
Slower? He was already one of the slowest characters in the game.
He was the worst character in 64. He wasn't even worth playing because of his terrible recovery.
Yeah, jumping and doing a sword plant that has a 2 second lag time is cheap. *rolls eyes* I mean...unlike foxes 100mph run to usmash or uair...Those weren't cheap at all.

 

[lonewolfe]

Are you serious??

Why should his up-B be weaker? Why don't we just take away his sword altogether?
Slower? He was already one of the slowest characters in the game.
He was the worst character in 64. He wasn't even worth playing because of his terrible recovery.
Yeah, jumping and doing a sword plant that has a 2 second lag time is cheap. *rolls eyes* I mean...unlike foxes 100mph run to usmash or uair...Those weren't cheap at all.

Woderfully put, Link's up B is crucial, and his speed needs to be faster.

 

[kin3tic-c4jun-3]

Don't worry GrimLizard, this Breakfast guy has been talking non-sense like that for the past (what now...) 3 days? You just gotta ignore him.

I've told him why he looks rediculous but he's been everywhere saying 'nerf link'. Sounds more like a nub that can't beat a Link? (and not even a SKILLED Link by the way he's describing these "problems")

@Breakfast - It's fine to have an opinion, but yours is pretty skewed and based on stuff that is generally not true, or agreed upon - just so you know. It would be fine if you didn't go around to different threads saying it over and over again. It gets annoying. From what I've seen you just go around posting what is generally the same thing and don't even bother replying to responses.

Bottom line:

Link's near perfect as far as I'm concerned. First of all, he's 'mid-tier', but with technique, I firmly belive you can bring that up slightly. He takes more out of a player to use properly, he's got some ranged, and is all-around goodness.

My only complaint is speed his movement up juuuuust a bit, and increase the effectiveness of his ariel up-B.

 

[the grim lizard]

If you tweaked the other characters enough, you wouldn't have to change him hardly at all. But I think he needs a little more running speed, and he needs to be slightly less easy to juggle. Otherwise, he's a pretty balanced character, as opposed to many Melee ones.

 

[Aeramis]

Link's near perfect as far as I'm concerned. First of all, he's 'mid-tier', but with technique, I firmly belive you can bring that up slightly. He takes more out of a player to use properly, he's got some ranged, and is all-around goodness.

My only complaint is speed his movement up juuuuust a bit, and increase the effectiveness of his ariel up-B.

Well said, Agreed.

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

I agree with ya all also. Link is very good and if they only upped his speed a little (and maybe decreased the lag with his smashes) he could easily take top tier.

 

[Fawriel]

I think Link should get faster projectiles and stronger attacks... if his attacks, like the up or down and maybe even the forward-smashes, are somewhat stronger, he'll soon be able to compensate for his slowness with it.
He is already about the second-slowest character overall, yet he's ranked relatively high. That's quite a feat already, isn't it?

Although, an effective up-b in the air would be awesome ( but too cheap for the n00bs if it keeps its full strength ).

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

Well with the damage he already deals now, he's very impressive. And as for adding more damage, if you can't hit your opponent, it really doesn't compensate. I'd rather have a slightly faster Link so I can dodge when my mind says to, and not have to anticipate five seconds from then what my opponent is going to do (and fail misarably at it...they don't pay me enough to be psychic.)

If anything, at least increase the speed of his roll-dodge and make him a little more like the normal Link.

 

[Fawriel]

Yeah, it's hard playing with slower characters... but we need SOME characters who aren't fast besides Bowser. XD

And I never did get why the Links' rolls are so bad. Screw-up on Sakurai's part, I'd say.

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

Well, for slow characters, we have Bowser, Ganon, DK, and whoever other Tank characters they want to make. Link wasn't a slowpoke in the games to be brutally honest. I'm not asking for Link to have Marth's speed, but at least give him a little more ya know...?

 

[the grim lizard]

Actually, I want to add this now: I would actually suggest that his up-B be more powerful. You can still grab him out of it, which I really don't understand how that works. My friend who plays Ganondorf does it to me all the time. Also, his spin attack has less priority than Peach's umbrella... >_>

 

[Link Sharingan]

link is my main in SSB and SSBM and i almost never lose whit him
i hope link is a little faster but not very fast since i find hard to use fast characters

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

I agree with what's been said, he's pretty perfect as far as balance goes, with just a slight move speed boost.

I'm just curious to what that new smash attack for him is, the one that we saw in the How to Play update for Smash Attacks. I thought it was a new F-smash, but then I remembered seeing in the video he still has his Melee one. The one I'm takling about is where he's holding it fairly parallel to the ground, near his face. If he held it a little farther in front of his face, he'd be Cito from Rurouni Kenshin.
It looks cool. but I still want to know what smash attack it is...unless they did change his F-smash....

 

[Wyvern]

I think that what Link really needs most of all is more options for low-lag attacks. I don't mean speeding up everything...the laggy up-B and fsmash are some of the things that make him so balanced. But right now, once the opponent is already on you, pretty much the only thing you can do that isn't ridiculously punishable is the neutral air. Maybe a much faster forward or down tilt would help...He doesn't need a ton of total speed, but he could use more than one move that isn't "hit or die".

 

[the grim lizard]

I think that what Link really needs most of all is more options for low-lag attacks. I don't mean speeding up everything...the laggy up-B and fsmash are some of the things that make him so balanced. But right now, once the opponent is already on you, pretty much the only thing you can do that isn't ridiculously punishable is the neutral air. Maybe a much faster forward or down tilt would help...He doesn't need a ton of total speed, but he could use more than one move that isn't "hit or die".

um...nair?

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

Ya. Nair.

I would like a boost in attack speed and dodging speed. I don't care about movement speed, but I'd like for him to be able to roll quickly like in the games. As for the strange samurai move, I seriously think it might be Link's Mortal Draw attack. Maybe it does heavy damage with super knockback but with some uber lag behind it especially if you miss. The ultimate Hit-or-Die move. And if they were to increase the power of his Up-B, my friend would be PISSED.

 

[LinkSpecialist]

Anyone notice in the First Trailer, Link's sword sparks before he hits Mario with his swordplant? What if he hits him on time when the spark happens? What side-effect do you think would happen? If any at all.