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Yes, but we do not know the right time he finally realized that, do we?EDIT: Also, Bowser Jr. states at the end of SMS that he knew she wasn't his mother.
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Yes, but we do not know the right time he finally realized that, do we?EDIT: Also, Bowser Jr. states at the end of SMS that he knew she wasn't his mother.
It doesn't matter because saving them is technically a service. They don't do it because they were asked either. There in lies the difference. Tell me, if Bowser Jr was acting on his own, like you insist he was, why was Bowser on the island in Super Mario Sunshine and why did Bowser Jr lead Mario to the Castles that Bowser was in the New Super Mario Bros?No... they never explicitely say they serve them.
can't the big guy take a vacation? And can't the kid get a little help from daddy?It doesn't matter because saving them is technically a service. They don't do it because they were asked either. There in lies the difference. Tell me, if Bowser Jr was acting on his own, like you insist he was, why was Bowser on the island in Super Mario Sunshine and why did Bowser Jr lead Mario to the Castles that Bowser was in the New Super Mario Bros?
Bump for Shadow Star.I don't see why we can't accept that Bowser Jr. and Geno should both be in Brawl and make peace. These arguments are stupid, pointless and just plain annoying. I can't even post my SE ideas because I'm afraid that they will be lost among all this arguing and trolling. Heck, this post probably will be lost too, but I'll post it anyway incase someone manages to stumble upon it.![]()
He flooded Isle Delfino and almost made Mount Corona erupt to try to stop Mario... I'd harldy call that taking a vacation. Also, you have it the wrong way; Bowser Jr is helping Bowser get what he wants. He even talks about how angry his father gets when he fails him in Super Mario Galaxy.can't the big guy take a vacation? And can't the kid get a little help from daddy?
I appreciate it.Bump for Shadow Star.
It is very likely that the Mario franchise will have 6 reps and most people agree that Geno, Bowser Jr, and Paper Mario are basically the only Mario characters whose chances of being playable haven't been completely destroyed based on factors that have come up. This has come up in several threads in the past couple of days so maybe I should take the initative and make a thread exampling why it's so likely...I don't see why we can't accept that Bowser Jr. and Geno should both be in Brawl and make peace. These arguments are stupid, pointless and just plain annoying. I can't even post my SE ideas because I'm afraid that they will be lost among all this arguing and trolling. Heck, this post probably will be lost too, but I'll post it anyway incase someone manages to stumble upon it.![]()
I Second that.I don't see why we can't accept that Bowser Jr. and Geno should both be in Brawl and make peace. These arguments are stupid, pointless and just plain annoying. I can't even post my SE ideas because I'm afraid that they will be lost among all this arguing and trolling. Heck, this post probably will be lost too, but I'll post it anyway incase someone manages to stumble upon it.![]()
YES.It is very likely that the Mario franchise will have 6 reps and most people agree that Geno, Bowser Jr, and Paper Mario are basically the only Mario characters whose chances of being playable haven't been completely destroyed based on factors that have come up. This has come up in several threads in the past couple of days so maybe I should take the initative and make a thread exampling why it's so likely...
And Vice Versa. I think he did.We can't know if he ever believed it.
so, from what youre saying, a characters importance in game has no effect on if they get in or not and it all depends on popularity? please, go get yourself informed on sakurai's statement, listen to so arguments, and then come back and try to say that. and I agree on both bowser jr. and geno getting in, they represent two halfs of the mario universe, the old mario and new.Are you guys SERIOUSLY arguing whether plot makes a character more important? I could argue that because Shadow Link and Thunderbird were the final bosses of Zelda II, the last game chronologically for many, they are ultra-important for being the last stand against peace in Hyrule. BUT WAIT. Are they playable in Smash....?
Without Slippy, Fox would never know how much HP the bosses have before he blasts them, he's pretty important. OWAIT...
Groudon and Kyogre are the reason Hoenn exists and is turmoil. They're the gods of Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire! They certainly must be--huh...
The point is, the argument needs to remain OUTSIDE the context of the games and within the context of reality. And, even there, we cannot decide who is "more popular" or "more useful" overall. That's Sakurai's decision to make. And if we look at the polls, I think his decision has already been made.
Frankly, people are just cranky because Brawl isn't going to have 50+ fighters and their precious Soras and Shadows aren't "revealed" yet. Because, OBVIOUSLY, they would be if Smash was just given more time. Right? *rolls eyes*
I don't think that it's a meer coincidence that nearly all the characters that have become playable in the Smash Bros franchise have a decent amount of significance to at least one game in their respective franchises and have shown independence in some form whether they have been playable or shown it in other medias like how Jigglypuff never had a trainer in the anime... I know you're speaking in favor of Geno but some people still believe that the results of the Melee and Brawl poll are bogus and have played no role in what characters have become playable and which characters will most likely become playable and that's why debates like this usually come up...Are you guys SERIOUSLY arguing whether plot makes a character more important? I could argue that because Shadow Link and Thunderbird were the final bosses of Zelda II, the last game chronologically for many, they are ultra-important for being the last stand against peace in Hyrule. BUT WAIT. Are they playable in Smash....?
Without Slippy, Fox would never know how much HP the bosses have before he blasts them, he's pretty important. OWAIT...
Groudon and Kyogre are the reason Hoenn exists and is turmoil. They're the gods of Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire! They certainly must be--huh...
The point is, the argument needs to remain OUTSIDE the context of the games and within the context of reality. And, even there, we cannot decide who is "more popular" or "more useful" overall. That's Sakurai's decision to make. And if we look at the polls, I think his decision has already been made.
Frankly, people are just cranky because Brawl isn't going to have 50+ fighters and their precious Soras and Shadows aren't "revealed" yet. Because, OBVIOUSLY, they would be if Smash was just given more time. Right? *rolls eyes*
You are adding words to my typed mouth. Not once did I say it depends on popularity; I was merely illustrating that if you count a character in based only on importance that's just silly. We have seen it's not the case. Don't jump to conclusions I neither made nor left material for people to make. I am more versed in Sakurai and Brawl than you'd think, so I wouldn't try to mess with my less-than-threatening statement by making it more than it was.so, from what youre saying, a characters importance in game has no effect on if they get in or not and it all depends on popularity? please, go get yourself informed on sakurai's statement, listen to so arguments, and then come back and try to say that. and I agree on both bowser jr. and geno getting in, they represent two halfs of the mario universe, the old mario and new.
exactly, but the exception here is that Geno DID have importance to his game, plus he's popular. AND he's got everything a fighter in brawl should haveSome characters like Pichu and Jigglypuff have almost no importance to their games, but were playable because of their popularity.
Just to clarify, I think the Mario franchise will have two new playable reps. Personally, based on what has been revealed, I believe that Geno and Paper Mario are the most likely canidates but I do believe that Bowser Jr is still in the running and probably will become playable if one of the forementioned characters falls through the floor.FMOI, Your idea about the JR/Geno/Paper Mario thing is a wonderful idea, Go write a thread about it naow, I Definantly want to see it.
Makes sence, I Can't wait to see that thread however.Just to clarify, I think the Mario franchise will have two new playable reps. Personally, based on what has been revealed, I believe that Geno and Paper Mario are the most likely canidates but I do believe that Bowser Jr is still in the running and probably will become playable if one of the forementioned characters falls through the floor.
I Freaking wish...Unfortunantly it seems like only two newcomers will happen for it.I wouldnt mind seeing all 3 but the only thing is the character slot factor, depends how big the roster is
agreed, I think there will only be the 2, imo Geno then Bowser JrMakes sence, I Can't wait to see that thread however.
I Freaking wish...Unfortunantly it seems like only two newcomers will happen for it.
So the Jee has a G sound? or like Jay or WHAT! ahhhhhhhhhhI used to pronounce it Ge-no, but its actually Jee-no.
I used to say "Geh-No" as a kid, but it's "Gee-No" like the real-world nameYou know what I wonder how do people pronounce Geno's name?
Is it..
G-no
Je-no
??? I always say G-no.
= wet deamI'd still love to see Geno team up with Ridley. It'd make me happy
I mean the G in Geno has a j sound, like in girafe, so its Jee-no.So the Jee has a G sound? or like Jay or WHAT! ahhhhhhhhhh![]()
Personally i prefer Geno and PM The most since they are from my two most favoritie games and JR Really just felt like a filler boss as bowser's slaveishson...We'll have to wait and see.agreed, I think there will only be the 2, imo Geno then Bowser Jr
GotchaI mean the G in Geno has a j sound, like in girafe, so its Jee-no.
yeah if Paper Mario made it in before Jr I wouldnt complain, because I guess if it came down to the same person (Mario to Paper Mario and Bowser to Jr.) Mario would get it. And I defintitly loved the PM series, so either way I'm happyPersonally i prefer Geno and PM The most since they are from my two most favoritie games and JR Really just felt like a filler boss as bowser's slaveishson...We'll have to wait and see.
yes it's pronounced like Gino.I mean the G in Geno has a j sound, like in girafe, so its Jee-no.
And you also get genoyeah if Paper Mario made it in before Jr I wouldnt complain, because I guess if it came down to the same person (Mario to Paper Mario and Bowser to Jr.) Mario would get it. And I defintitly loved the PM series, so either way I'm happy
exactly. Hey that kinda gave me an idea, for SE, they team up to replicate what it was like in SMRPG, obviously with the subtraction of it being Mario. But maybe PM was on a mission finding stars or something and Geno was as well. The possibilities are endlessAnd you also get geno.
Geno + Paper Mario, The awsome level of that is uncountable of them both being playable... :O.