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Why would we get over the single worse character positioning in any of the tier lists so far, caused by the stupidest logic ever used?Enough with the Pit hate, pleaseWe get it, lol. Lots of people have been ranting about it since the last list which was over 6 months ago >_<. Move on, and get over it. The next list is coming out soon anyway.
the 31st of september? :O
(Yoshi and Ike should rise).Enough with the Pit hate, please
You probably don't even know the logic since you aren't apart of the BBR.
Yes you are right. It hasn't been proven in America, but Masashi has proven it in Japan. Therefore, the potential is there, but just not shown where your eyes can see it. Believe what you want, everyone's opinion is justified in their own reasoning.
Why?
The ruleset in Japan might be slightly different than in the USA and europe but no so much that the difference in regards to Pit would be notable. The BBR ruleset has no ledge grab limit and actively supports planking as a tactic - the japanese ruleset has often a ledge grab limit, uses air time in case of a timeout and has no counterpicks where Pit could make notable use of his flexibility.
All in all the US ruleset is a better basis for Pit to be successful than the japanese.
Saying the japanese have a different metagame is a strawman. Point in case is that the japanese have simply developed the character far more than the US did. Earth placed top 20 at Apex and he's not even the best Pit in Japan. Masashi has taken sets off a player who placed 7th or 8th at Apex [his Falco and his MK] and most of the japanese top players as well.
You can't say that Brood's success doesn't matter because japan has a different metagame. So what? He's still good enough to beat two of the world's best players at the same tournament and he's not even the best Olimar in japan.
Are results from Europe and America the only things that matter? It's sad to see that people disregard the japanese when they are obviously better at this game.
Brood has come to USA and placed 2nd. That is different than Masashi of whom we only have some vids and tourney results. Surely Masashi might come to a national and get first. However, he might also get 33th. We dont know that, but he does have the potential to get high with Pit. There you have that word again. Potential.The ruleset in Japan might be slightly different than in the USA and europe but no so much that the difference in regards to Pit would be notable. The BBR ruleset has no ledge grab limit and actively supports planking as a tactic - the japanese ruleset has often a ledge grab limit, uses air time in case of a timeout and has no counterpicks where Pit could make notable use of his flexibility.
All in all the US ruleset is a better basis for Pit to be successful than the japanese.
Saying the japanese have a different metagame is a strawman. Point in case is that the japanese have simply developed the character far more than the US did. Earth placed top 20 at Apex and he's not even the best Pit in Japan. Masashi has taken sets off a player who placed 7th or 8th at Apex [his Falco and his MK] and most of the japanese top players as well.
You can't say that Brood's success doesn't matter because japan has a different metagame. So what? He's still good enough to beat two of the world's best players at the same tournament and he's not even the best Olimar in japan.
Are results from Europe and America the only things that matter? It's sad to see that people disregard the japanese when they are obviously better at this game.
If your referencing to the BBR discussion about Pit, then...lol. One person's vote cannot make a huge impact when the BBR has like 70+ members. It had to be a collection of ideas and votes, and it was even stated that the characters within the tier mattered, and not where they exactly placed on the list.
Says the Ike main xD
Kind of have to agree xD
Considering this tier list is based off the American/European metagames, and say for the most part yes.The ruleset in Japan might be slightly different than in the USA and europe but no so much that the difference in regards to Pit would be notable. The BBR ruleset has no ledge grab limit and actively supports planking as a tactic - the japanese ruleset has often a ledge grab limit, uses air time in case of a timeout and has no counterpicks where Pit could make notable use of his flexibility.
All in all the US ruleset is a better basis for Pit to be successful than the japanese.
Saying the japanese have a different metagame is a strawman. Point in case is that the japanese have simply developed the character far more than the US did. Earth placed top 20 at Apex and he's not even the best Pit in Japan. Masashi has taken sets off a player who placed 7th or 8th at Apex [his Falco and his MK] and most of the japanese top players as well.
You can't say that Brood's success doesn't matter because japan has a different metagame. So what? He's still good enough to beat two of the world's best players at the same tournament and he's not even the best Olimar in japan.
Are results from Europe and America the only things that matter? It's sad to see that people disregard the japanese when they are obviously better at this game.
