The North Carolina Melee Power Rankings! Updated 8/14/14!

[Divinokage]

*sick

Huh?? But you can go to Genesis anytime you want, the hell. =(

 

[Lightsyde]

Only if you're Christian.


/rimshot

 

[Dark Hart]

Swiiishhhhh

 

[Dr Peepee]

So if Falcon wants to be effective at higher levels his DD needs not only be mixed up but used at different positions and locations. Different movement like jumps and WDs done out of his DD should make him more tricky to read and ultimately force more baits which is great because Falcon usually can't make it all on approaches alone(but that part could be subject to change as Mango and Darkrain exist).

 

[Dark Hart]

Officially quitting smash for touhou

 

[Pitzer]

Officially quitting smash for Soul Calibur.

 

[0Room]

So if Falcon wants to be effective at higher levels his DD needs not only be mixed up but used at different positions and locations. Different movement like jumps and WDs done out of his DD should make him more tricky to read and ultimately force more baits which is great because Falcon usually can't make it all on approaches alone(but that part could be subject to change as Mango and Darkrain exist).

lmao that was random

 

[Dark Hart]

He was writing it for himself I think for the most part, maybe also in hopes of getting us to discuss for his own personal reason's (trying to **** twitch with Falcon again, apparently he twitchy learned or something) or for other reason's (trying to get some good competitive discussion going being that the school season is starting).

Soooooooo yea

not too random

 

[*P*L*U*R*]

Officially quitting smash for touhou

*leaps into sky*

*punches moon*

*explodes*

 

[Dark Hart]

*leaps into sky*

*punches moon*

*explodes*

*re-directs energy*

*aims for Jupiter*

*3...2...1...*

 

[KoozyK]

whens this pr being updated?

 

[Dr Peepee]

When Snap uploads the G6 bracket and the panel works on it afterward.

 

[Juno McGrath]

Yeah sorry guys I'm working on that bracket. It's on my computer back home. At the beach for another day.

 

[Lightsyde]

So if Falcon wants to be effective at higher levels his DD needs not only be mixed up but used at different positions and locations. Different movement like jumps and WDs done out of his DD should make him more tricky to read and ultimately force more baits which is great because Falcon usually can't make it all on approaches alone(but that part could be subject to change as Mango and Darkrain exist).

While I agree that alternating your DD patterns is obviously helpful for tricking your opponent into worse spots, I worry that doing it anywhere other than the main stage (platforms) might be really dangerous. All of the top/high tiers have good moves that either poke through platforms (Marth's Utilt/Falco's Uair etc) or strong front/diagonal front up hit boxes (Sheik's Fair/Ganon's Fair/Uair/Marth's Fair etc) which can be done from a short hop. Basically my worry is: Why put Falcon (arguably the easiest to combo character) above people when he doesn't have any strong/fast hitboxes below him? His stomps lose or don't come out fast enough so it seems like there are few times when they would chase a DD'ing onto the platform if they could just get under him.

I could see this strategy working well with shield/shai drops though, but I haven't used them enough midmatch to test it. DD -> Shield/Shield DI -> Shield drop Bair if they try to poke from below?

I definitely agree about using WD out of DD and alternating SH/FHs. I learned to be abuse that stuff because of Falco's jump height and I think it more or less works with Falcon for similar reasons (good weight/jump height/fall speed).

 

[Dorsey]

Why would the timer have anything to do with changing the probability with stitch faces? Seems like a joke... why would they code that in there? If timer value of a certain digit = x then change probability of turnip pulling? I think yay and mike G need to lay off the rocks.

 

[Dr Peepee]

While I agree that alternating your DD patterns is obviously helpful for tricking your opponent into worse spots, I worry that doing it anywhere other than the main stage (platforms) might be really dangerous. All of the top/high tiers have good moves that either poke through platforms (Marth's Utilt/Falco's Uair etc) or strong front/diagonal front up hit boxes (Sheik's Fair/Ganon's Fair/Uair/Marth's Fair etc) which can be done from a short hop. Basically my worry is: Why put Falcon (arguably the easiest to combo character) above people when he doesn't have any strong/fast hitboxes below him? His stomps lose or don't come out fast enough so it seems like there are few times when they would chase a DD'ing onto the platform if they could just get under him.

I could see this strategy working well with shield/shai drops though, but I haven't used them enough midmatch to test it. DD -> Shield/Shield DI -> Shield drop Bair if they try to poke from below?

I definitely agree about using WD out of DD and alternating SH/FHs. I learned to be abuse that stuff because of Falco's jump height and I think it more or less works with Falcon for similar reasons (good weight/jump height/fall speed).

Those other characters are slow and easy to see coming. If they try to hit you then they are committing and your DD was successful. Besides I don't think I mentioned platform DD'ing but even if I did then I think it has plenty of uses and partially for reasons like your mindset it can be easier to force commitment or at least the sense that stage can be taken since Falcon isn't on the bottom taking it.

Stomp is also amazing from up high. Do it early enough and the move stays out a while and everything. Super sick move that playing with Ali has taught me I should explore more. Does this make him safe in stun or in combo position(he's been hit already) above people? No. Does it make him hard to approach when he's above people or give him a unique way to attack from up high? I think so.

 

[bossa nova ♪]

*leaps into sky*

*punches moon*

*explodes*

otf

 

[DJRome]

when are these being updated?
-sushi

 

[Dr Peepee]

These will be updated during the week because I have a lot of things to do tonight but early this week hopefully we can get it done.



KARN AND SNEAK



when are you guys available? I can work with your schedules.

 

[mr.fizwidget]

dj and sushi real terror

 

[Dark Hart]

Um
V
Bad ten mm NBC
Swig

 

[archer.]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=309162

Fun times ahead. men!

 

[Dr Peepee]

Yeah guys go to that tourney I'm goin and we're playin Melee and I'll train bits if they want or play cool characters like jiggypluff

or mario

 

[Sneak8288]

i'm going to be free this week after 8

 

[vZakat]

As if I'd go to a tourney on the day of the season 2 premiere of my little pony...

 

[Dr Peepee]

Aight thanks sneak. If Karn doesn't respond here tomorrow I'll contact him and see what's good.

 

[DJRome]

i'm going to be free

this

im really hungry

 

[stingers]

i've got fruit loops

 

[lord karn]

Aight thanks sneak. If Karn doesn't respond here tomorrow I'll contact him and see what's good.

don't think I can do anything today unless it is later in the night. can probably do tomorrow, though

 

[Dark Hart]

i've got fruit loops

Hey alex, let's hang out sometime this week

 

[Dr Peepee]

Okay Karn well Sneak is working later tonight(saw it on FB) so we'll just try for tomorrow. =)

 

[stingers]

Hey alex, let's hang out sometime this week

hmu babycakes

 

[Dr Peepee]

Hey Karn hit me up tomorrow on aim again(at night because I'll be busy during the afternoon...can be like 8-9 or whatever if you prefer) so we can work on this. Sneak and I got a lot done tonight.

 

[lord karn]

Hey Karn hit me up tomorrow on aim again(at night because I'll be busy during the afternoon...can be like 8-9 or whatever if you prefer) so we can work on this. Sneak and I got a lot done tonight.

Ok, cool. I get done with training for this Kaplan thing at like 9:30 or 10 so it will be some time after that.

 

[Dr Peepee]

Yeah that's fine I'll be up lol. Just don't wait plz I am pretending to get better at this sleeping thing.

 

[Dr Peepee]

Karn and I talked a little about PRs last night. Hopefully we actually get it sorted out within the next 2 days.



ANYWAY everyone that wants Melee to stick around REALLY needs to see this: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=309978

Donate if you can!

 

[bossa nova ♪]

i like the idea of a smash documentary (whatever happened to smash doc???)


but uhh....


the pilot was mad cheezy. i'm referring to the interviews in particular. i had trouble keeping myself from alt+f4'ing.

 

[Dr Peepee]

Smash: The doc is just going really slowly but supposedly it's still happening(so my sleuthing tells me).

He's getting actual players for the future ones LOL.

 

[bossa nova ♪]

ok good cuz those guys sucked.



and i think the smash doc has to find a way to fill in for the zelgadis interview that i'm sure they're not going to include anymore lollersnogz

 

[Redd]

Dat harsh criticism.

I personally had a boner the entire time.