Veggi
Smash Champion
Luigi was in Smash 64 despite only appearing when the player didn't want to play as Mario. Also, I was referring to you just ignoring Toad's role in 3D World. Mario games aren't about the story. If the developers thought it was reasonable enough for Toad to put himself in danger to destroy Bowser's army, Bowser's huge bosses, and Bowser himself, then why wouldn't he be able to put himself in another dangerous situation in Smash?I didn't say 3D World doesn't count, I said NSMB doesn't. Because the game relegates you to playing as Mario in single-player, ergo, he's the only one canonically involved in things. 3D World lets you choose your hero based on who you like best.
And again, Toad has never flat out fought anyone. SMB2 is a dream, and he doesn't have to take any part in 3D World if you don't want him to, so it's not a solid basis for characterising him. You never have to see him besides the opening cutscene and ending credits, if you don't want to.
And I didn't insult anyone's argument, can I not throw a little pun-related joke in every once in a while when taking part in a tedious debate over whether or not a piece of walking fungus should be playable in Smash, and then throw a little troll face in to indicate said joke, to lighten things up?
Mario games consist of destroying enemies that can attack Toad and Toad easily being able to fall off a cliff to his death. Why would Toad be any less willing to participate in Smash Bros., which also consists of enemies attacking Toad and Toad potentially falling to his death? They are exactly the same thing as Toad's playable appearances that he willingly takes part in.
I don't get how ignoring Toad's existence in a game hurts his chances. He's playable. There are a lot of Mario appearances where you don't have to even play as Mario. You never have to play as Rosalina in any game. She wasn't even in 3D World's story. Also, if Toad got lost, then why is he at the end of the game no matter what? Toad being playable in so many games, having his own game, and being an important NPC in many Mario games is a testament to his importance to the series.
And yeah, you did. You definitely called his argument flimsy.