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That's unfortunate.
Chain grabbing is pretty important to Roy's game against spacies. Like NJzfinest said. If you get a grab on FD it should lead to a stock if not 60ish% at the least.
Roy's is called double edged dance and often abbreviated as ded. Side be on someone's shield usually shouldn't go to the 3rd and 4th hit unless you are pretty sure you are gonna shield poke with it. It's more to bait a reaction out of shield from your opponent. And yes up on the 3rd and 4th hit are good for poking high and down on the 4th hit are good for poking low. 3rd down not so much.
Well your combos seem rather lack luster. You usually go for the quickest route to fsmash which isn't always the best thing to do. Your grab game is rather weak as well. You should definitely be tech chasing with down and forward throw more. Because you didn't do this you gave your opponents many chances to return to neutral game. This is very obvious on platforms. Also FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE STOP UP-BING OUT OF SHIELD. You're gonna give me cancer with the junk man lol.
Fixed.
You mean the reverse Blazer? Yeah, that thing's pretty cool.This is completely unrelated to what we were talking about before but I just wanted to bring it up since I just found it out and find it helpful.
For the longest time I've had trouble turning around with an up-b and getting the highest vertical angle. What I found out though is that if you get the half angle (in between up and up-back) you can get it every time. It's the same angle for getting fox's up-b in between the eight "normal" directions. Hope this helps everyone recover more.
I like to throw out rando fsmashes until I get punished.
Well I'm talking about reverse blazer as a recovery not an attack. I've started to jump out and flare blade people to edge guard them (when appropriate) but would have had problems recovering afterwards because of the recovery time on flare blade. But turning around during an up b with the most vertical height you can get is helpful to resolve that. If you are using reverse blazer as an attack (like for killing puff) you would want the more horizontal angle for reverse blazer so that you only get the first hit (which is the hit with the most knock back)
I don't think it's pointless but it's not the greatest thing to do. In neutral you can bait approaches with empty jumps or go for a tipped fair on a shield to bait a shield grab. It's also stage and match up dependent. If you are on FD against a falco, dashdancing will only lead you you eating a million lasers.
Well, yeah. I use that a whole lot. I don't know how many times I've been knocked offstage and the best way for me to recover was to reverse Blazer.
Haha sorry, whenever I hear reverse blazer I think of it as an attack. I usually don't refer to it by name in any other case. Though I can't really think of a situation where you would need it the way I described aside from if you jump off the stage yourself. Wouldn't side-b turn you towards the stage? *shrugs*
I mean, in some cases side b would have enough lag to force me to be out of range or w/e. But sometimes I like to use it as a mixup.
I also made a video detailing combos Roy can use to lead into the Blazer.
When it comes to using the Blazer, do not use it on heavy/mid-weight characters. The Blazer is only good against lite characters (best with Jigglypuff) and instead of using it out of shield, use it in a combo like a low-to-the-ground Fair/Nair into reverse Blazer or spike with upsmash (if they miss the tech) then reverse Blazer.
Hoho, it's my video. :3
That's a pretty incorrect assessment. The blazer is useful for things other than killing. It's Roy's only move that's guaranteed to break CC on any character.
Breaking Crouch Cancel? Sweet! I'll have to test that out myself. But I think sometimes you've got to watch out in the event the fast-fallers retaliate after the Blazer, ledge-cancelling them (when able to) can be a good safeguard for those who attempt that kinda punish. Glad I could help you out with my vids by the way, more will be coming along the way. ^u^
Well I've never actually played around with blazer as an attack I feel like it's just way too much lag afterwards to be of any use. Does it really stop ccing? I still can't see it being that useful. As far as comboing I feel like it's always good to alternate between long and short combos as a mix up to throw off DI. I can definately understand going for shorter guaranteed stuff in a tourney set. I do that a lot too lol. The best way to follow up on a platform is to jump up and air dodge down onto the platform then shield. this way you can block their get up attack or shield grab or pivit grab if they roll or even just jump away if for some reason you are unsafe.
I am very disappoint because no Red Roy. But otherwise, it's pretty cool!
Oh yeah, I can't be a good Roy player without being red. NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!1111!!11!111one1!!111!1!eleven!11 But still, ledge-cancelled Blazers are t3h b3st becuz t3h ph1r3
and nice tech skill video man
You're welcome and thank you! And the reason Pika, Peach, and Popo all died off the top from a lower point in that video is because of a frametrap I discovered, where if the opponent is hit by the blazer's sweetspot, then they touch a hitbox near the end of the animation, then their knockback escalates; therefore, the opponent could possibly DI into that, too.As a Red Roy, I must say thx for all the info on the blazer
darkoblivion12
It was awesome seeing you on stream at Big House 4, it affirmed my decision to stick with Roy for the tournament and in general. What did you think of Wizzy's falcon? It seemed like he was getting out of uair > fsmash combos by just jumping out immediately every time. That, and death-touching you from every grab x_x
What part of Illinois are you from, fellow Roy? :o
