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The New Counter Game: Read the **** Rules or the Thread Get's Locked

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WouW

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Exeggutor @ Life Orb
Modest/Chlorophyll
252SpA/216Spe/40HP
SolarBeam
Sunny Day
Sleep Powder
Hidden Power Fire

Solar Beam does 1548 - 1824 (392.89% - 462.94%) damage. Ouch?

Also, sun is up.
 

Da-D-Mon-109

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Exeggutor @ Life Orb
Modest/Chlorophyll
252SpA/216Spe/40HP
SolarBeam
Sunny Day
Sleep Powder
Hidden Power Fire

Solar Beam does 1548 - 1824 (392.89% - 462.94%) damage. Ouch?

Also, sun is up.
:flame:
THE DAMAGE! IT'S OVER ONE THOUSAND! :p
Did you reach that output level during your Vacation?

Honchkrow @ Life Orb
Modest / Insomnia
6hp/252SpecialAttack/252Speed
NastyPlot
DarkPulse
HeatWave
SuperPower

Look, it's Yubaba in Bird Mode! :p

On an unrelated note, if you were to give Crazyness, Chaos, Discord, Insanity (etc) a color, what color would it be?

:flame:
 

WouW

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Green (having played GTA2)

Golem @ Leftovers
Careful/Rock Head
252SpD/252HP/4Atk
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Double-Edge
Counter

Maximum specially defensive investment makes me survive a +2 LO Dark Pulse and OHKO with Stone Edge. Superpower does lol damage due to lack of Attack investment.
 

Da-D-Mon-109

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Green (having played GTA2)

Golem @ Leftovers
Careful/Rock Head
252SpD/252HP/4Atk
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Double-Edge
Counter

Maximum specially defensive investment makes me survive a +2 LO Dark Pulse and OHKO with Stone Edge. Superpower does lol damage due to lack of Attack investment.
:flame:
Which Color Green looks the most Insane? This One? Or This One? Or This One? Or This One? Or This One? Or This One? Or This One?

Espeon
Timid/Synchronise
HP IV 22, Defense Iv 0, 252 Special Attack, 6 Special Defense, 252 Speed
Grass Knot
Trick Room

I demand someone set up a Power Trick Shuckle Sweep! I freaking Demand it!

:flame:
 

Wave⁂

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Azumarill @ Life Orb
Adamant / Huge Power
252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SpDef
0 Speed IVs
Aqua Jet
Substitute
Focus Punch
Waterfall


Aqua Jet after Power Trick:
436 Atk vs 56 Def & 244 HP (40 Base Power): 866 - 1022 (354.92% - 418.85%)
 

supermarth64

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Shuckle @ Focus Sash
Relaxed/Gluttony
252Def/252HP/4SpD
IVs:0Spe
Power Trick
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Bug Bite

Ask and you get.
Donphan @ Leftovers
Impish / Leftovers
252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Ice Shard
Assurance

Shuckle 4HKOes with Earthquake.
 

WouW

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Cacturne @ Life Orb
Brave/Sand Veil
252Atk/252SpA/4HP
IVs:0 Spe
Grass Knot
Sucker Punch
Focus Punch
Substitute

This set assumes Trick Room is still active; otherwise, assume this (slightly altered) set;

Cacturne @ Life Orb
Lonely/Sand Veil
252Atk/252SpA/4HP
Grass Knot
Sucker Punch
Focus Punch
Substitute
 

Wave⁂

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Articuno @ Leftovers
Bold / Snow Warning
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpDef
Blizzard
HP Grass
Sky Attack
Roost

Sucker Punch:
361 Atk vs 328 Def & 384 HP (80 Base Power): 123 - 145 (32.03% - 37.76%)

Focus Punch:
361 Atk vs 328 Def & 384 HP (150 Base Power): 154 - 182 (40.10% - 47.40%)
 

WouW

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Regirock @ Life Orb
Jolly/Clear Body
212Spe/252Atk/44HP
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Counter
Ice Punch

Takes max 47% from Blizzard, outspeeds and OHKOs with Stone Edge. Also, you have an invalid ability.
 

Wave⁂

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Wailord @ Mystic Water
Timid / Water Veil
252 SpAtk / 252 Speed / 4 SpDef
Water Spout
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
HP Grass

Takes 66% from Stone Edge and lols with Hydro Pump.
 

WouW

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Hitmonlee @ Life Orb
Adamant/Reckless
240Atk/124Spe/144HP
Hi Jump Kick
Mach Punch
Earthquake
Stone Edge

Hitmonlee is so awesome, it can KO a ****ing WHALE with just one kick.
 

UltiMario

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Weezing@Leftovers
Bold/Levitate
252HP/252Def/4SpA
Fire Blast
Thunderbolt
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split

Yet it can't beat a ball of Purple Cigarettes.
 

Wave⁂

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Chimecho @ Life Orb
Modest / Levitate
252 SpAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Psychic
Shadow Ball
HP Fighting
Calm Mind

Chimecho needs an evolution. Good stats + great movepool = awesome.
 

Da-D-Mon-109

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Chimecho @ Life Orb
Modest / Levitate
252 SpAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Psychic
Shadow Ball
HP Fighting
Calm Mind

Chimecho needs an evolution. Good stats + great movepool = awesome.
:flame:
Ahem. SCREW EVOLUTION!

Scyther @ Focus Sash
Adamant / Technician
124 hp / 252 Attack / 124 Speed (I don't know either...)
Sword Dance
X-Scizor
Aerial Ace
Reversal

Scyther didn't need an Evolution now did he?

On a Random Note, I GOT A NEW AVATAR! Super Sayain Lucario for the Win!

:flame:
 

WouW

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Aggron @ Life Orb
Adamant/Rock Head
252Atk/252HP/4Def
Toxic
Stone Edge
Iron Tail
Earthquake

Toxics to eliminate sash, then you'll take 1000 - 1180 (320.51% - 378.21%) damage from Stone Edge.
 

Da-D-Mon-109

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Aggron @ Life Orb
Adamant/Rock Head
252Atk/252HP/4Def
Toxic
Stone Edge
Iron Tail
Earthquake

Toxics to eliminate sash, then you'll take 1000 - 1180 (320.51% - 378.21%) damage from Stone Edge.
:flame:
Gastrodon @ Life Orb
Modest / Sticky Hold
166 hp / 252 Special Attack / 92 Speed
Muddy Water
Blizzard
Earth Power
Recover

Does this damage output look familiar?

311 Atk vs 156 Def & 344 HP (90 Base Power): 1000 - 1180 (290.70% - 343.02%)

:flame:
 

WouW

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Roserade @ Life Orb
Modest/Poison Point
148SpD/252HP/108SpA
Leaf Storm
Sleep Powder
Sludge Bomb
Hidden Power Fire

1336 - 1576 (330.69% - 390.10%) damage. You're not going to beat that.

On a slightly related note, have you tried Shoddy yet?
 

WouW

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Sludge Bomb has a (17%) chance to OHKO, and after Life Orb you won't guaranteededly KO with Blizzard (you have 66.66% chance).

EDIT:Oops, I forgot that I didn't have maxed out Special Attack, though I can still sleep you and if Sleep Talk fails to get you a Blizzard, you lose.
 

RuNNing Riot

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Glugh...must stop doing this to myself.

Against Stickerbrush:

Articuno w/Occa Berry
Mild/Pressure
200 Sp. Atk./ 210 Sp. Def./ 100 Speed
+ Blizzard
+ Signal Beam
+ Sleep Talk
+ HP Fire
How can Donphan not be OU?
Probopass w/Chople Berry
Gentle/Sturdy
252 Sp. Def./ 126 Atk./ 126 Sp. Atk./ 6 HP
-Stone Edge
-Lock On
-Thunder Wave
-Flash Cannon

Can fairly easily switch in to any of your offensive moves, has Thunder Wave to remove your Speed advantage and prevents use of Sleep Talk, and can OHKO you with Stone Edge with a Lock On setup or Flash Cannon if the setup isn't possible.
 

Wave⁂

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Mawile @ Life Orb
Intimidate / Adamant
252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Spe
Iron Head
Sucker Punch
Brick Break
Swords Dance
 

Da-D-Mon-109

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Roserade @ Life Orb
Modest/Poison Point
148SpD/252HP/108SpA
Leaf Storm
Sleep Powder
Sludge Bomb
Hidden Power Fire

1336 - 1576 (330.69% - 390.10%) damage. You're not going to beat that.

On a slightly related note, have you tried Shoddy yet?
:flame:
I am under the assumption that Roserade is still the current counter.

Slaking @ Expert Belt
Adamant / Possible Worst Ability In Game
252 HP / 252 Attack / 6 Sped
Fire Punch
Giga Impact
Shadow Claw
EarthQuake

I am a very DerangedTrainer. Too bad I still need work though. Shoddy is so much more different than regular battling, specifically because of how fast it is. You can barely tell what's going on until the text stablizes. And it loses the fun of being able to see the attacks... but if that's really the compeditive game... (although I still prefer the DS' Portablity).

:flame:
 

Mewter

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Mawile @ Life Orb
Intimidate / Adamant
252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Spe
Iron Head
Sucker Punch
Brick Break
Swords Dance
Charizard@Life Orb
252 Sp Atk / 248 HP / 8 Spe
Blaze / Modest
Flamethrower
Substitute
Roost
HP Electric

I can just hide behind my substitute and easily roost, though not the smartest choice. I can use flamethrower to quickly take you down, no harm done.
 

Wave⁂

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Countering with Slaking is just lazy.

Hitmontop @ Leftovers
Adamant / Intimidate
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Speed
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Foresight
Earthquake

EDIT: lolwut
 

Wave⁂

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Regigigas can stall out Slow Start with Confuse Ray and Thunder Wave.

So, who's the next to counter, Hitmontop or Charizard?
Oh wait, I think my Hitmontop counters both Slaking and Charizard.
 

WouW

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Slaking has the ability to hit-and run with good Speed and Attack. gl stalling without recovery moves anyway or sweeping with only 2 attacks.

Sableye @ Leftovers
Bold/Keen Eye
252HP/252Def/4SpD
Will-o-Wisp
Calm Mind
Dark Pulse
Recover

Foresight is banned, btw.
 

Terywj [태리]

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Houndoom @ Leftovers
Flash Fire
Modest (+Sp Atk, -Atk)
252 Sp Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
~ Nasty Plot
~ Flamethrower
~ Dark Pulse
~ Hidden Power Flying

Laughs in your face as you hit it with Dark Pulse / Will-o-wisp. Nasty Plots to +6 Sp Atk and ***** you with Flamethrower.

-Terywj
 

Da-D-Mon-109

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Houndoom @ Leftovers
Flash Fire
Modest (+Sp Atk, -Atk)
252 Sp Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
~ Nasty Plot
~ Flamethrower
~ Dark Pulse
~ Hidden Power Flying

Laughs in your face as you hit it with Dark Pulse / Will-o-wisp. Nasty Plots to +6 Sp Atk and ***** you with Flamethrower.

-Terywj
:flame:
This reminds me of an old joke between me and Wouw.. How did it go? Something like this...

Jumpluff @ Occa Berry
Adamant / Leaf Guard
4 hp / 252 attack / 252 speed
Sleep Powder
Swords Dance
Bounce
Seed Bomb

Good Times... Good Times.

:flame:
 

WouW

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Ursaring @ Life Orb
Adamant/Guts
252Atk/252HP/4Def
Sleep Talk
Return
Ice Punch
Stone Edge

Stone Edge and Ice Punch OHKO. If you sleep me, Guts activates pushing Return into OHKOing range, meaning whatever Sleep Talk gets will OHKO you. +2 Bounce does 68.75% max.
 

Terywj [태리]

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Aggron @ Leftovers
Rock Head
Adamant (+Atk, -Sp Atk)
252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
~ Substitute
~ Focus Punch
~ Avalanche
~ Rock Slide

Comes in with ease on your attacks. I'm not running calcs but I should set up a Substitute and Focus Punch you away. Avalanche and Rock Slide are for counters, not you.

-Terywj
 

WouW

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Blaziken @ Expert Belt
Modest/Blaze
252SpA/252Spe/4Def
Focus Blast
Fire Blast
Hidden Power Grass
Vacuum Wave

Focus Blast deals 1387 - 1641 (403.20% - 477.03%) damage. FP does max 83%.
 

Terywj [태리]

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Altaria @ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Adamant (+Atk, -Sp Atk)
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Sp Def
~ Earthquake
~ Toxic
~ Outrage
~ Pursuit

Comes in on a resisted Focus Blast, then shrugs off your attakcs with responding with an Earthquake.

-Terywj
 

Wave⁂

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Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Sticky Hold / Relaxed
212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SpDef
Ice Beam
Surf
Earthquake
Recover
 

Wave⁂

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Mantine @ Leftovers
Calm / Water Absorb
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpDef
Surf
HP Electric
Toxic
Protect

=P
 
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