The New Counter Game: Read the **** Rules or the Thread Get's Locked

[Wave⁂]

Edit: Nevermind

 

[WouW]

You get outsped and 2HKOed by HP Ice.

 

[supermarth64]

Manectric @ Expert Belt
Modest/Static
252SpA/252Spe/4HP
Thunderbolt
Flamethrower
HP Ice
Signal Beam

Claydol @ Leftovers
Calm / Levitate
252 HP / 48 Def / 196 SAtk / 16 SDef (I'll explain below)
-Calm Mind
-Earth Power
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot

252 HP is for maximum bulkiness.
196 SAtk ensures an OHKO with Earth Power.
16 SDef with the 252 HP and a Calm Nature ensures that Expert Belted Signal Beam never 2HKOs with Leftovers with 4 extra EVs for the 2 extra stat points.
44 Def are leftovers.

 

[boo836]

Claydol @ Leftovers
Calm / Levitate
252 HP / 48 Def / 196 SAtk / 16 SDef (I'll explain below)
-Calm Mind
-Earth Power
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot

252 HP is for maximum bulkiness.
196 SAtk ensures an OHKO with Earth Power.
16 SDef with the 252 HP and a Calm Nature ensures that Expert Belted Signal Beam never 2HKOs with Leftovers with 4 extra EVs for the 2 extra stat points.
44 Def are leftovers.

Hariyama:@ Leftovers
Careful Nature
252 hp, 196 spd, 56spdef
Thick Fat
-Ice Punch
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Toxic

196 Speed evs allow me to out speed all min neutral base 75, while Toxic and Ice Punch wear you down, while your attacks won't really hurt my subs.

 

[Circa]

Froslass@Lum Berry
Modest/Snow Cloak
4 DEF/252 SATK/252 SPE
-Substitute
-Hail
-Blizzard
-Psychic

Thick fat is gay. I wanted to give it HP Electric for coverage. ;-; Otherwise, do I really need to explain? You can't even break a sub.

 

[Wave⁂]

Froslass@Lum Berry
Modest/Snow Cloak
4 DEF/252 SATK/252 SPE
-Substitute
-Hail
-Blizzard
-Psychic

Typhlosion @ Leftovers
Modest / Blaze
4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
Fire Blast
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
HP Electric

Psychic:
284 Atk vs 206 Def & 298 HP (90 Base Power): 90 - 106 (30.20% - 35.57%)

Fire Blast:
348 Atk vs 176 Def & 281 HP (120 Base Power): 510 - 602 (181.49% - 214.23%)
And that's not including Blaze, which you probably activated.

 

[karthik_king]

Camerupt@Choice Band
Adamant
252 ATK/252 SpDef/4 HP
EQ

 

[KrazyGlue]

Camerupt@Choice Band
Adamant
252 ATK/252 SpDef/4 HP
EQ

Choice items aren't allowed. Still on Typhlosion.

 

[supermarth64]

Typhlosion @ Leftovers
Modest / Blaze
4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
Fire Blast
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
HP Electric

Edit: A PROPER Flareon Counter now.

Flareon @ Leftovers
Calm / Flash Fire
252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SDef
-Wish
-Protect
-Toxic
-Fire Blast

 

[KrazyGlue]

Flareon @ Life Orb
Lonely / Flash Fire
192 Atk / 184 SpA / 124 Spe
-Fire Blast
-Superpower
-Return
-HP Grass

HP Electric is a 3HKO including LO, while Return is a 2HKO.

In that case, wouldn't this counter fail? Typhlosion is faster, so...

Flareon switches in.
Typhlosion hits it with HP Electric. (first)

Typhlosion hits flareon with HP electric (second)
Flareon hits Typhlosion with return (first)

Typhlosion kills flareon with HP Electric.
Flareon can't use return again because it fainted.

 

[supermarth64]

In that case, wouldn't this counter fail? Typhlosion is faster, so...

Flareon switches in.
Typhlosion hits it with HP Electric. (first)

Typhlosion hits flareon with HP electric (second)
Flareon hits Typhlosion with return (first)

Typhlosion kills flareon with HP Electric.
Flareon can't use return again because it fainted.

* Faceplant *

Give me a sec.

Edit: K, fixed.

 

[boo836]

Typhlosion @ Leftovers
Modest / Blaze
4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
Fire Blast
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
HP Electric

Psychic:
284 Atk vs 206 Def & 298 HP (90 Base Power): 90 - 106 (30.20% - 35.57%)

Fire Blast:
348 Atk vs 176 Def & 281 HP (120 Base Power): 510 - 602 (181.49% - 214.23%)
And that's not including Blaze, which you probably activated.

Ninetails@ Lum Berry
252 hp, 252 spatt, 6 spd
Modest
-Calm Mind
-Hidden Power Water
-Flamethrower
-Substitute/Energy Ball


Ignore / Energy Ball, it's just if you wanted to use it in comp.

 

[WouW]

Actually Flareon is the current counter.

 

[boo836]

Ninetails counters both lol. >_>

 

[WouW]

I don't see how Ninetales does sufficient damage to outstall Flareon's Toxic/protect-wish stalling given his fully EV'd base 110 SpD.

*calcs*

Yeah, HP Water does around 20% damage and Toxic kills you before you get into 2HKOing range, taking into account Protect.

 

[boo836]

Which is why you have Substitute, and Calm Mind to boost your power up. >_> Even if it Toxic's you, you'll still outstall it and knock it around. gg

 

[supermarth64]

No you can't. By the time you CM enough to 2HKO Flareon (4 times), you'll have basically died due to Toxic.

Otherwise I can outstall YOU by Wishing and Protecting.

 

[NJzFinest]

Flareon can just use toxic on the switch.

How can Ninetales be a counter if it can automatically lose when switching in?

 

[boo836]

Lum Berry disables Toxic, then you go for Sub.

 

[NJzFinest]

Nice editing LOL

 

[boo836]

I eidited because I put Calm down instead of Modest. >_>

 

[Greenstreet]

Let's just move on...

vs

Mantine @ Leftovers
Bashful / Swift Swim
126 HP / 252 Def/ 132 Attk
Hydro Pump
Rain Dance
Ice Beam
Earthquake

 

[NJzFinest]

...mmhmmm


Slowking @ Leftovers
Own Tempo / Quiet
252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
0 Spe IVs
Trick Room
Surf
Nasty Plot
Hidden Power Normal (lol)

edit: I took to long too post; mantine counter:

Ludicolo @ LO
Swift Swim / Modest
4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hydro Pump
Energy Ball
Ice Beam
Rain Dance

 

[Greenstreet]

vs

Quilfish @ Life Orb
Swift Swim / Careful
48 Attk / 252 SpD / 210 Spe
Poison Jab
Sword Dance
Waterfall
Rain Dance

Energy Ball - 306 Atk vs 229 Def & 271 HP (80 Base Power): 150 - 177 (55.35% - 65.31%)
Poison Jab - 238 Atk vs 177 Def & 301 HP (80 Base Power): 302 - 356 (100.33% - 118.27%)
Edit: I don't care if it's easy to counter, I just wanted to use him.

 

[Platypus]

Why can't I find any info on Brawl+?

Against Qwilfish:

Relicanth w/Liechi Berry
Impish/Swift Swim
200 Atk./ 200 Def./ 110 Speed
+ Earthquake
+ Natural Gift
+ Aqua Tail
+ Bounce
So many things wall this that I can't keep count.

Wild Zombie appeared!

Go, Bellsprout!

...Or not.

 

[Wave⁂]

Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Impish / Chlorophyll
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Toxic
Protect
Power Whip
HP Fire

All of your attacks are resisted, while I protect when you Bounce.

 

[Da-D-Mon-109]

Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Impish / Chlorophyll
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Toxic
Protect
Power Whip
HP Fire

All of your attacks are resisted, while I protect when you Bounce.

:flame:
Thank Goodness you people didn't get this thread closed before I got back. I would have been very sad.

Magmortar @ Life Orb
Modest / Flame Body
4hp/252specialattack/252speed
Fire Blast
Cross Chop
Thunder Bolt
Earth Quake

I didn't do the calculations for defending against Power Whip or Hidden Power Fire, but I don't think that he'll be able to kill me the first turn, nor can he stall me with Toxic and Protect.
:flame:

 

[supermarth64]

Regirock @ Leftovers
Careful / Clear Body
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
-Thunder Wave
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch

Anything that you throw at me is a 4HKO at minimum, while Rock Slide is a 2HKO.

 

[Da-D-Mon-109]

Regirock @ Leftovers
Careful / Clear Body
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
-Thunder Wave
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch

Anything that you throw at me is a 4HKO at minimum, while Rock Slide is a 2HKO.

:flame:
Turn 1:Earthquake/Switch in.
100%/63%

Turn 2:Earthquake/Bulk Up
100%/38%.

Turn 3:Earthquake/Bulk Up
100%/19%.

Turn 4:Earthquake/Bulk Up
100%/4%.

Turn 5:High Jump Kick/Earthquake
0%/4%. Outspeed and killed.

Damage is not factoring in Intimidate.

Hitmontop @ Muscle Band
Adamant/Intimidate
4hp/252attack/252speed
Bulk Up
High Jump Kick
Sucker Punch
Bullet Punch

No welcome back? ;.;
:flame:

 

[Da-D-Mon-109]

:flame:
Sorry for the double post, but incase someone wants to dispute the Hitmontop not working, due to not being able to outspeed after being Thunderwaved,

Roserade @ Life Orb
Modest / Poison Point
4hp/252specialattack/252speed
Grass Knot
Sludge Bomb
Hidden Power Fire
Sleep Powder

Yeah, it can still outspeed even when Paralysed, and none of your attacks can kill it in time before it kills you. But, only use this one if Hitmontop is thought not to work (it seems okay to me).
:flame:

 

[WouW]

Vs. Hitmontop (it works)

Rotom @ Leftovers
Timid/Levitate
252HP/252Spe/4SpA
Will-o-Wisp
Light Screen
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball

I don't see Bullet Punch doing much damage, especially when its attack is cut in half by Will-o-Wisp.

 

[Wave⁂]

Sucker Punch doesn't KO?

Well, post reserved to Rotom counter

Cacturne @ Expert Belt
Adamant / Sand Veil
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Sucker Punch
Focus Punch
Seed Bomb
Payback

Well, I resist both your attacks and hit super-effectively with Payback (you outspeed me).

 

[karthik_king]

Slaking@Toxic Orb
252 ATK/252 HP/4 SpDef
Truant|Adamant
Trick
EQ
Shadow Claw
Facade

haha annoying i beat you

 

[Wave⁂]

Grr .

 

[Da-D-Mon-109]

:flame:
Swalot @ Black Sludge
Bold/Sticky Hold
4hp/252defense/252special attack
Protect
Stock Pile
Spit Up
Sludge Bomb

I can survive the first Earthquake, Stock Pile, Protect, Stock Pile, Protect, Stock Pile, Protect, SludgeBomb, Protect, SludgeBomb..... Protect, Spit Up. Yeah, that's how it goes.

NO ONE HAS WELCOMED ME BACK YET! ;.; I AM SAD!

And annoying, you got outspeed again. Ha ha.

Last, but not least, Wouw could easily stall me out through the Burn and the Light Screen until I die. Wouw counters Fire with Jumpluff. You don't need to question his counters, ever. Now, since the Cactus was posted late, and I just countered the Fat Pig, counter my ... sludge thingy....
:flame:

 

[Pink Reaper]

Slaking@Toxic Orb
252 ATK/252 HP/4 SpDef
Truant|Adamant
Trick
EQ
Shadow Claw
Facade

haha annoying i beat you

There is something horribly horribly wrong with this counter and im ashamed no one caught on to it.

 

[c3gill]

i havent posted here in awhile, but how does it learn trick??????

 

[Cease Tick]

There is something horribly horribly wrong with this counter and im ashamed no one caught on to it.

Focus Punch + Sucker Punch KOs on average.

EDIT: also Slaking doesn't learn trick. And the above moves are actually a guaranteed KO. Besides that I don't see it.

DOUBLE EDIT: OHH SLAKING WAS SUPPOSED TO BEAT ROTOM I'M DUMB

 

[supermarth64]

Focus Punch + Sucker Punch KOs on average.

You thought about it too much.

 

[Da-D-Mon-109]

:flame:
May I ask that something be clarified for me? Just for future reference? If a Person makes a space for a counter, someone comes a long and counters first, and then someone edits that space for a new counter, despite being late, that counter is the working one?

I'm sorry for my huge butt mistake. I ALWAYS FRIGGING ASSUME THAT THE ORB ACTIVATES AS THE POKEMON SWITHES IN! ;.; I am a ******. Even cutting Slaking slack about Trick (which I actually didn't factor in with my Swalot, I just don't expect anyone to try to LeechSeed a Swalot), it still doesn't counter because the Toxic doesn't activate early. It would be burned first, and be unable to kill.

Sorry! That was my bad. I went back and checked all of the math like I used to (so I know that all counters work), and Slaking does not work against Rotom. Cacturn, however, does.

Scyther @ Leftovers
Impish/Technician
252hp/4attack/252defense
SwordDance
X-Scizor
Aerial Ace
Brick Break

This one should work against Cacturn, being able to resist Focus Punch and Seed Bomb, while given evs to take a Pay Back and a Sucker Punch, and still be able to instantly kill with X-Scizor.

Sorry about before, guys.... I done f@%$ed up.