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The New Counter Game: Read the **** Rules or the Thread Get's Locked

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Pink Reaper

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Ghost@Recovery Item
Attack Increasing Nature/unnecessary item
HP EVs/Attack EVs/Extra EV Dump
-Ghost Stab Move
-Supplementary Fighting move
-Thunderbolt(or equivalent electric type move)
-Status Inducing Move

Edit:

@Slaking

Hitmontop@Leftovers
Adamant/Intimidate
252Hp/104Def/152Atk
-Close Combat
-Substitute
-Endeavor
-Sucker Punch

This actually works
 

supermarth64

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11) Don't counter using Focus Sash. Focus Sash is only allowed if not necessary to counter the other Pokémon.
 

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It would already be a lot better if it had more HP and maybe Defense.

Armaldo @ Leftovers
Adamant/Battle Armor
252Atk/252HP/4Spe
Rock Blast
Earthquake
X-Scissor
Aqua Tail
 

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It would already be a lot better if it had more HP and maybe Defense.

Armaldo @ Leftovers
Adamant/Battle Armor
252Atk/252HP/4Spe
Rock Blast
Earthquake
X-Scissor
Aqua Tail
Relicanth @ Rindo Berry
Adamant / Rock Head
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpDef
Head Smash
Aqua Tail
Rest
Sleep Talk

Earthquake 3HKOs.
Head Smash OHKOs.

If only Relicanth had better SpDef...
 

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Quagsire @ Leftovers
Bold/Water Absorb
252HP/164Spe/92Def
Hidden Power Grass
Surf
Yawn
Earthquake

3HKOs with HP Grass (2HKO without Berry), outspeeds and avoids being 4HKOed by Head Smash.
 

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Carnivine @ Leftovers
Calm / Levitate
252 HP / 52 Def / 200 SpDef
Energy Ball
Leech Seed
HP Fire
Substitute

Calculations aren't really necessary.
 

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That counter fails as Thunderbolt hurts, and you fail to outspeed it.

Also, Magmortar is UU because it's a Fire-type (thus a Stealth Rock weakness) and there's Heatran in OU.
 

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Magmortar @ Life Orb
Modest/Flame Body
252SpA/252Spe/4HP
Fire Blast
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power Ice
Focus Blast

Nor are they necessary here.
Lanturn @ Leftovers
Calm / Volt Absorb
252 HP / 216 SpDef / 42 SpAtk
Surf
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave

Focus Blast is 3HKO, Surf is a OHKO.

Some Earthquake me.
 

PsychoIncarnate

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Houndoom
40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
Life Orb
Timid /Flash Fire
-Fire Blast
-Dark Pulse
-Nasty PLot
-Hidden Power Ghost

New to this, does that work
 

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Works fine, but HP Ghost has literally no useful coverage since it crosses over almost completely with Dark Pulse. Plus, doesn't Houndoom learn Shadow Ball?

Regigigas@Sitrus Berry
Adamant/Slow Start
252Hp/252Atk/4SpDef
-Superpower
-Return
-Earthquake
-Substitute

Superpower OHKO's you after LO recoil, before you can KO me.
 

UltiMario

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Misdrevus@Leftovers
Hasty/Levitate
4Atk/252SpA/252Spe
Pain Split
Shadow Sneak
Curse
HP Fighting

Random crappy filler moveset is random and Crappy
 

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Banette @ Leftovers
Adamant / Insomnia
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 4 HP
Shadow Claw
Will-o-Wisp
Knock Off
Sucker Punch
 

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Medicham @ Life Orb
Adamant / Pure Power
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 4 Def
Hi Jump FALCON Kick
Psycho Cut
Fire FALCON Punch
Thunderpunch
 

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Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Calm / Pressure
252 HP / 160 Sp Def / 96 Def
~ Hidden Power {Fighting}
~ Shadow Ball
~ Rest
~ Sleep Talk

-Terywj
Kangaskhan @ Leftovers
Adamant / Scrappy
252 HP / 156 Atk / 100 SpDef
Substitute
Focus Punch
Mega Kick
Sucker Punch

HP Fighting is a 5HKO, Mega Kick is a 3HKO

What's the rule about Sleep Talk? Does it always pick the most damaging move?
 

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It's not perfectly defined. If counters had to be able to take two extra attacks all the time in spite of the odds, that would make things much harder. However, since Kangaskhan has to roll high itself (Mega Kick is morbidly inaccurate, and if you can't land a Focus Punch, you'll be stalled to death) it's safe to assume that everyone has to play percentages, in which case the 'roo wins.

To counter Kangaskhan:

Haunter w/Chilan Berry
Nayeev/Levitate
180 Atk./ 120 Def./ 190 Sp. Atk./ 20 Speed
+ Skill Swap
+ Sucker Punch
+ Thunder
+ Energy Ball
Coming in, I take either Focus Punch or Mega Kick (presumably). If I don't, I swap skills and speed-sweep.
 

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Rules say moves with at least 70% accuracy hit 100% of the time, which is why I used Mega Kick instead of Return. Likewise, karthik should be using Thunder instead of Thunderbolt.

EDIT:

Exeguttor @ Leftovers
Modest / Chlorophyll
252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 4 SpDef
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
HP Fire
Leech Seed

Psychic:
200 Atk vs 166 Def & 394 HP (90 Base Power): 76 - 90 (19.29% - 22.84%)
+1 Psychic:
300 Atk vs 167 Def & 394 HP (90 Base Power): 113 - 133 (28.68% - 33.76%)

SolarBeam:
383 Atk vs 296 Def & 354 HP (120 Base Power): 217 - 256 (61.30% - 72.32%)
 

supermarth64

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I forgot about the Eye of Tiger Rule tbh.

Arcanine@Choice Band
Adamant/Flash Fire
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP
Flare Blitz
ExtremeSpeed
No Choice items.

Counter for Exeggutor:

Flareon @ Life Orb
Lonely / Flash Fire
192 Atk / 184 SAtk / 124 Spe
-Superpower
-Fire Blast
-Return
-HP Grass

Never gets 2HKOed by Solarbeam, and always OHKOes with Fire Blast.
 

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Slaking @ Chople Berry
Adamant / Pure Power
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Giga Impact
Shadow Claw
Earthquake
Gunk Shot

Superpower:
350 Atk vs 236 Def & 504 HP (120 Base Power): 166 - 196 (32.94% - 38.89%)

I outspeed and lol at you with Giga Impact.
460 Atk vs 140 Def & 271 HP (150 Base Power): 344 - 405 (126.94% - 149.45%)
 
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