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The New Counter Game: Read the **** Rules or the Thread Get's Locked

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NJzFinest

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**** you Richard

Corsola @ Choice band
Adament / Hustle
252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Spe
Rock Slide
Surf
Explosion
Return

take that
 

c3gill

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explosion kills the idea of your counter, if you use that you die. even if you kill chatot with it, your dead.

*this is me suggesting self-ko moves need to be banned.
 

NJzFinest

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Yeah, I didn't see explosion there and didn't bother removing it since all I did was copypaste the smogon CB Corsola set (like I know what such a horrible/unpopular pokemon can do haha).

Corsola @ Leftovers
Modest / Natural Cure
252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 6 Spe
PowerGem
Surf
Ice Beam
Recover

k?
 

Blackroserade66

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Roserade @ Yache berry (Just to live through Ice beam lol)
Timid / Natural Cure
252 Spc.Atk/252Speed/4Spc.Def
Energy Ball
Extrasensory
Sludge Bomb
HP Fire


Yay, I gets to counter something with mah favorite pokemon!!!
 

KrazyGlue

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Roserade @ Yache berry (Just to live through Ice beam lol)
Timid / Natural Cure
252 Spc.Atk/252Speed/4Spc.Def
Energy Ball
Extrasensory
Sludge Bomb
HP Fire


Yay, I gets to counter something with mah favorite pokemon!!!
Chansey @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 DEF/4 SP.DEF
Bold/ Natural Cure
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Charm
Toxic
 

supermarth64

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Blaziken @ White Herb (For Charm)
196 Atk / 252 SpA / 60 Spe
Mild / Blaze
-Superpower
-Fire Blast
-HP Grass
-Vacuum Wave

God dammit, if you didn't have Charm, I would've put Life Orb on this and saved me so many Atk EVs.

Next counter, counter whichever Blaziken you feel like countering, as both work.
 

NJzFinest

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lol @ posting the same pokemon at the same exact time

Moltres @ LO
Modest / Pressure
64 HP / 252 SpA / 192 Spe
Fire Blast
Agility
Hidden Power Grass
Air Slash
 

supermarth64

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1) God dammit, why didn't I choose HP Electric? (even though it wouldn't make a difference)
2) I wish SR was up...
HP Electric vs NJ's Moltres:
350 Atk vs 206 Def & 337 HP (70 Base Power): 170 - 202 (50.45% - 59.94%)
Oh well...

Edit:

lol @ posting the same pokemon at the same exact time

Moltres @ LO
Modest / Pressure
64 HP / 252 SpA / 192 Spe
Fire Blast
Agility
Hidden Power Grass
Air Slash
Chansey @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 DEF/4 SP.DEF
Calm (screw Bold)/ Natural Cure
-Wish
-Protect
-Seismic Toss
-Toxic
 

Cease Tick

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Haunter w/ Lum Berry
Timid/Levitate
252Hp/252Spe/4Def
-Curse
-Taunt
-Rest
-Protect

You get taunted to stop healing, then cursed.
 

supermarth64

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Venomoth @ Leftovers
Rash/Tinted Lens
252SpA/252Spe/4Atk
Pluck
Sludge Bomb
Sleep Powder
Bug Bite

Plucks to steal your berry and then KOs with Sludge Bomb, the rest is filler.
Registeel @ Leftovers
Careful / Clear Body
252 HP / 100 Atk / 156 SpD
-Thunder Wave
-Earthquake
-Iron Head
-Rock Slide
 

Blackroserade66

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Dusknoir @ leftovers
Careful / Pressure
252 Def/252Spc.Def/4Atk
Fire punch
Trick room
Pain Split
Wil-o-wisp
 

NJzFinest

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Duskclops @ leftovers
Careful / Pressure
252 Def/252Spc.Def/4Atk
Fire punch
Trick room
Pain Split
Wil-o-wisp


:D
 

supermarth64

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Magmortar @ leftovers
Modest/Flame Body
EVs
252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Taunt
HP Ice
Fire Blast
Focus Blast
Azumarril @ Choice Band
Adamant / Huge Power
212 HP / 252 Atk / 40 Spe
-Waterfall
-Double-Edge
-Superpower (Was Focus Punch, but then WouW reminded me that failed in this game.)
-Aqua Jet
 

supermarth64

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Yea, copied that one from the Smogon set <_< >_>

Would you rather me use Giga Impact? (lol jk)

Fine, I'll change it to Superpower (does more damage than Brick Break until 3rd shot).
 

Blackroserade66

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Vaporeon @ leftovers
Bold/Water Absorb
150Def/252HP/104Spec.Atk
Acid Armor
HP Grass
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam

I thought Vaporeon was UU............ T.T so sorry, hm.
 

NJzFinest

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Slowbrow @ Leftovers
Relaxed / Own Tempo
3Spe IV
252HP/252Def/4SpD
Trick Room
Slack Off
Surf
Psychic
 

Da-D-Mon-109

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Hariyama @ Flame Orb
Brave/Guts
128Def/128SpD/252Atk
Close Combat
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Facade

This set assumes Trick Room is in effect.

:flame:
Wouldn't Trick Room have been over by the time a 4th Pokemon was introduced to the counter game?

Slowbro uses Trickroom.
Slowbro counters Azumarril.
Crawdaunt counters Slowbro.
Hariyama counters Crawdaunt.

Most of these counters don't seem like Instant Kills, so it feels like Trick Room has disipated by now. If it hasn't, how many turns left does it have, so I know if my counter works?

By the way, I am back. Muhahahahaha!

Also, is it more important for a Pokemon to have overwhelming Power? Or Superior Speed with Power? Lots of Pokemon have sets that call for Jolly or Timid, not allowing Adamant and Modest to be factors.

:flame:
 

KrazyGlue

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Hariyama @ Flame Orb
Brave/Guts
128Def/128SpD/252Atk
Close Combat
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Facade

This set assumes Trick Room is in effect.
Exeggutor @ Expert Belt
Modest/ Chlorophyl
4 HP/252 SP.ATK/252 Speed
Psychic
Sunny Day
Solarbeam
Ancientpower

This set assumes no trick room because, as Demon said, it would be gone by now.

:003::006::009: <-- Just figured out how to do this :)
 

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Wouldn't Trick Room have been over by the time a 4th Pokemon was introduced to the counter game?

Slowbro uses Trickroom.
Slowbro counters Azumarril.
Crawdaunt counters Slowbro.
Hariyama counters Crawdaunt.

Most of these counters don't seem like Instant Kills, so it feels like Trick Room has disipated by now. If it hasn't, how many turns left does it have, so I know if my counter works?

:flame:
Turn 1: Slowbro uses Trick Room as Azumarill switches out and Crawdaunt comes in.
Turn 2: Crawdaunt counters Slowbro who switches out to Hariyama.
Turn 3: Hariyama ***** whatever is in (Crawdaunt/who would be switched in)
Turn 4: Trick Room is still in effect
Turn 5: Trick Room is still in effect but fades next turn.

That said, Exeggutor would fail to counter as it would still be outsped (turn 4) and KOed.
 

sonofthesky

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Ho-Oh@Choice Band
252 atk 252Spd 4 Def
Adamant
~Sacred Fire

Anyone remember me?
 

Da-D-Mon-109

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Ho-Oh@Choice Band
252 atk 252Spd 4 Def
Adamant
~Sacred Fire

Anyone remember me?

:flame:
No, but I can tell that you are a troll. Obviously fails by the rules about non OU+ Pokemon, not to mention that I don't think Ho-Oh will like eating those Stone Edges.

I don't want to be a punk and just post a Spiritomb.... but if no one else can figure out a counter, then I'll update this post with the set.

:flame:
 

sonofthesky

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:flame:
No, but I can tell that you are a troll. Obviously fails by the rules about non OU+ Pokemon, not to mention that I don't think Ho-Oh will like eating those Stone Edges.

I don't want to be a punk and just post a Spiritomb.... but if no one else can figure out a counter, then I'll update this post with the set.

:flame:
Not really a troll, I just post random Ho-Oh sets and get owned by Houndooms.
 

WouW

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Ho-Oh@Choice Band
252 atk 252Spd 4 Def
Adamant
~Sacred Fire

Anyone remember me?
Yes, I remember you. And yes, you are still annoying. And this counter also fails because you take 210.17% - 247.46% on the switch, and get outsped even if the first missed.
Not to mention Sacred Fire would fail to OHKO if it wasn't for Flame Orb.
Really, if you want to pwn with ubers do it with stuff that WORKS.
 

KrazyGlue

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Turn 1: Slowbro uses Trick Room as Azumarill switches out and Crawdaunt comes in.
Turn 2: Crawdaunt counters Slowbro who switches out to Hariyama.
Turn 3: Hariyama ***** whatever is in (Crawdaunt/who would be switched in)
Turn 4: Trick Room is still in effect
Turn 5: Trick Room is still in effect but fades next turn.

That said, Exeggutor would fail to counter as it would still be outsped (turn 4) and KOed.
First of all, there's no guarantee slowbro used trick room.

But if you want me to redo the set:

Exeggutor @ Expert Belt
Quiet/ Chlorophyl
0 Speed IVs
128 DEF/252 SP.ATK/128 SP.DEF
Psychic
Energy Ball
Synthesis
Ancientpower

With no speed IVs and with your full IVs, I'm slower and I get the OHKO.


In the future, I don't think we should assume trick room, or anything else from other sets. After all, we don't assume damage from switching in on pokemon we counter.
 

NJzFinest

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Bellossom @ Heat Rock
Timid
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Sunny Day
SolarBeam
Sleep Powder
Hidden Power Fire
In the future, I don't think we should assume trick room, or anything else from other sets. After all, we don't assume damage from switching in on pokemon we counter.
Yes we do, we have to.

Counter = being able to switch in and threaten the opponent's pokemon.
 
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