The New Counter Game: Read the **** Rules or the Thread Get's Locked

[WouW]

Absol w/Lum Berry
Adamant/Super Luck
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 Hp
-Taunt
-Superpower
-Sucker Punch
-Swords Dance

Volbeat @ Insect Plate
Timid/Swarm
212SpA/252Spe/44HP
Encore
Moonlight
Bug Buzz
Tail Glow

If you Swords Dance, I'll encore that and OHKO with Bug Buzz. If you Taunt, your Sucker Punch fails to OHKO and I OHKO with Bug Buzz. Superpower will be encored and outstalled with Moonlght.

 

[Platypus]

Versus Charmy-warmy:

Bastiodon w/Focus Sash
Adamant/Sturdy
110 HP/ 200 Atk./ 200 Def.
+ Metal Burst
+ Taunt
+ Avalanche
+ Earthquake
Unbreak.

 

[WouW]

Illumise @ Insect Plate
Modest/Tinted Lens
252SpA/252HP/4Def
Wish
Protect
Bug Buzz
HP Ground

 

[UltiMario]

Staraptor@Life Orb
Adamant/Intimidate
2HP/252Atk/252Spe
Brave Bird
Close Combat
Return
Quick Attack

Tinted Lens makes Starptor very sad, but still Illumise is moreso.

 

[WouW]

Vs. Staraptor:

Regirock @ Leftovers
Impish/Clear Body
252HP/252Def/4Atk
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Curse
Ice Punch

 

[Platypus]

That looks quite familiar.

Against Rock...regi...guy:

Gorebyss w/Choice Specs
Modest/Swift Swim
200 Def./ 200 Sp. Atk./ 110 Sp. Def.
+ Hydro Pump
+ HP Ground
+ Blizzard
Blizzard, Blizzard, Blizzard, Blizzard, Blizzard, Blizzard, yep.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Mantine@Leftovers
Calm/Wather Absorb
252Hp/252SpDef/4Def
-Mirror Coat
-Toxic
-Protect
-Hydro Pump

 

[Cease Tick]

Toxicroak w/ choice band
Adamant/dry skin
252atk/252spe/4hp
Stone edge
Cross chop
Poison jab
X-scissor

Toxicroak - aka I don't have access to a calculator

 

[Pink Reaper]

Torkoal@Leftovers
Bold/White Smoke
252Hp/80Def/176SpAtk
-Overheat
-HP Psychic(LOL)
-Will-o-Wisp
-Amnesia

/nothardtocounter

 

[WouW]

Houndoom @ Apicot Berry
Brave/Flash Fire
88HP/84Atk/84Def/84SpA/84SpD/84Spe
Howl
Snore
Leer
Toxic

 

[Pink Reaper]

LOL

@Goddoom

Pikachu@Light Ball
Hasty/Static
200SpAtk/252Spe/56Atk
-Focus Punch
-Nasty Plot
-Thunder
-Grass Knot

 

[WouW]

Raikou @ Choice Specs
Modest/Pressure
252SpA/252Spe/4HP
Thunder
Shadow Ball
Extrasensory
Hidden Power Ice

 

[Platypus]

Against Raikou:

Kecleon w/Apicot Berry
Adamant/Color Change
200 Atk./ 100 Def./ 210 Sp. Def.
+ Disable
+ Natural Gift
+ Sucker Punch
+ Aqua Tail
THAT IT DOES; THAT IT DOES.

 

[WouW]

You get 2HKOed even with Apicot Berry and Color Change absorbing the second hit.

Counter failed

 

[Pink Reaper]

Hypno@Leftovers
Calm/Insomnia
252Hp/252SpDef/4SpAtk
-Disable
-Nasty Plot
-Psychic
-HP Fighting

You can't 2HKO me and Disable leaves you with Struggle.

 

[SpelignFial]

just thought i'd throw this out there reaper shouldn't u ban the move imprison so people just don't block everything except a useless attack

 

[karthik_king]

Spiritomb
Leftovers
252 SP atk 252 Def 4 Hp
Dark Pulse
Shadow Ball
Rest
Calm Mind


Ya this is cheap. Be happy i did not use shedninja

 

[WouW]

Hypno@Leftovers
Calm/Insomnia
252Hp/252SpDef/4SpAtk
-Disable
-Nasty Plot
-Psychic
-HP Fighting

You can't 2HKO me and Disable leaves you with Struggle.

I'm calcing 52.14% - 61.23% on the switch, enough for a outspeeding 2HKO.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Strange, im getting lower numbers, and I've double checked the EV's/Natures and Items. Im actually getting 46-55% though, so technically there is a chance to 2HKO even with Leftovers calced in(this was higher than what I got earlier which was 51% max >_>) whatever, I guess I'll just use something else =/

Regice@Leftovers
Calm/Pressure
252Hp/252SpDef/4Def
-Amnesia
-Rest
-Charge Beam
-Blizzard

I can't disable you to make you struggle, but I can switch in, Anmesia, survive with VERY little health left and rest and then continue to do so until you run out of PP :D

 

[WouW]

Strange, im getting lower numbers, and I've double checked the EV's/Natures and Items. Im actually getting 46-55% though, so technically there is a chance to 2HKO even with Leftovers calced in(this was higher than what I got earlier which was 51% max >_>) whatever, I guess I'll just use something else =/

If you got 51% max, I could KO you after two Thunders with Struggle.

Vs. Regice:

Gallade @ Life Orb
Jolly/Steadfast
252Atk/252Spe/4HP
Close Combat
Swords Dance
Zen Headbutt
Night Slash

 

[Cease Tick]

If you got 51% max, I could KO you after two Thunders with Struggle.

Vs. Regice:

Gallade @ Life Orb
Jolly/Steadfast
252Atk/252Spe/4HP
Close Combat
Swords Dance
Zen Headbutt
Night Slash

Scyther w/Life Orb
Adamant/Technician
252Atk/252Spe/4HP
Aerial Ace
Swords Dance
Brick Break
Night Slash

 

[KrazyGlue]

Scyther w/Life Orb
Adamant/Technician
252Atk/252Spe/4HP
Aerial Ace
Swords Dance
Brick Break
Night Slash

Electrode @ Life Orb
Modest: Static
4 HP/252 SP.ATK/252 Speed
Thunderbolt
HP Rock (lol)
Charge Beam
Signal Beam

Switches in safely assuming no critical hit, then outspeeds and kills scyther with thunderbolt.

Wow... this is going to be incredibly easy to counter... Sorry electrode, you were only meant ot counter one pokemon.

 

[WouW]

Explosion is banned.

 

[KrazyGlue]

Oops. Well, I just changed it to a filler.

 

[Cease Tick]

Gastroson w/ leftovers
252 hp/252 s.def/4 def
Sticky hold/calm
-recover

 

[WouW]

Flareon @ Ganlon Berry
Bold/Flash Fire
252HP/252Def/4SpD
Fake Tears
Growl
Leer
Tail Whip

I wait, you struggle.

 

[Pink Reaper]

lvl1 Kangaskhan@Focus Sash
Adamant/Scrappy
252Atk/252Spe
-Toxic
-Endeavor
-Protect
-Sucker Punch

 

[WouW]

Ambipom @ Sitrus Berry
Adamant/Technician
252Atk/252Spe/4HP
Double Hit
Payback
Brick Break
Thunder Wave

 

[Platypus]

How is Ambipom not OU? Oh, whatever.

Lickilicky w/Choice Band
Brave/Own Tempo
200 Atk./ 200 Def./ 110 Sp. Def.
+ Hammer Arm
+ Gyro Ball
+ Façade
If Fassodd fails, it's not my fault.

 

[WouW]

Double Hit or Brick Break KO you before you can KO me, unless you're using Hammer Arm.

I might ban choice items just because no one seems to be any good at using them >_>

Choice really needs to be banned. 95% of Choiced counters posted here lately fail.

 

[Platypus]

The desire to make a balanced Choice user that will prove un-counter-able supersedes self-restraint in applying the items.

Against Hideouspom:

Torkoal w/Focus Sash
Relaxed/White Smoke
200 Sp. Atk./ 200 Def./ 110 Sp. Def.
+ Fire Blast
+ Gyro Ball
+ Flail
+ Amnesia
Look, it just uses Fire Blast. Ambipom is hurt.

 

[UltiMario]

I'd just like to make a statement on the Choice Item Arguement.
I think that the Choice Item Holder should be able to have various moves and not be able to counter with all of them. Not even a five-year-old would make a mistake to use a bad matchup move. If the one move can counter the pokemon, then so be it. I say we should base counters on not just efficiency, but the idea tht the human has a bigger brain than a rat.

On the other hand, the COUNTER TO THE CHOICE ITEM HOLDER would have to be the one that must counter all the Choice Moves, seeing as, once again, sanity partakes in the counter choice. This lets people use counters with Choice Items, but not be harassed for the fact the the moves that WOULD HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN USED are counted in.
We should just use Sets like, as the most famous example, Eruption only Typlosion, seeing as even though they would get countered Easily, they would still qualify as the counters being looked upon.
I am only saying that the human mind is more capable of clicking a button than you guys may seem to think. Let them have their one move that counter, the rest filler ****. Then have something just counter that.

Now, to use this counter as an example.

@Torkoal

Arcanine@Choice Specs
Modest/Intimidate
252SpA/200Spd/52SpD/4HP
Flamethrower
Dragon Pulse
HP Water
Extremespeed

Yes, a terrible set, I know.
But the point is here, that it resists Fire Blast, and intimidate does its job on flail, the only real threat to Arcanine. HP water does 141 minimum damage on a 281 HP Torkoal, just barely enough to 2HKO Torkoal without having to fear flail getting to a fairly KO-able power. Fire Blast Also has to 4HKO, and Gyro Ball is almost the same. This shows an example of one move that counters a set. But, it wont take long to GET countered, will it?

 

[WouW]

I think that's stupid. Really, soon enough someone will post things like:

Rampardos @ Choice Band
Adamant/Mold Breaker
252Atk/252Spe/4HP
Head Smash
Earthquake
Zen Headbutt
Superpower

Really, sets like that would be uncounterable. It 2HKOs the best 252/252 walls (Slowbro, Claydol, Quagsire, Shuckle, Regirock and a lot of others) and those can't hope to outspeed and OHKO him due to lack of Speed investment.
NOTE: THIS IS NOT A COUNTER TO ARCANINE, but regardless, just try to counter it. I dare you.

 

[Platypus]

I send out Sandslash.

Against Torkoal:

Phione w/Focus Sash
Modest/Hydration
100 HP/ 200 Def./ 110 Sp. Atk./ 100 Sp. Def.
+ Rain Dance
+ Rest
+ Surf
+ Signal Beam
Mambaf.

 

[UltiMario]

Rampardos @ Choice Band
Adamant/Mold Breaker
252Atk/252Spe/4HP
Head Smash
Earthquake
Zen Headbutt
Superpower
just try to counter it. I dare you.

Hitmonlee@Focus Sash
Adamant/Limber
252Atk/252Speed
Reversal

Obvious starts with an O.

 

[WouW]

Which fails by something called Rules.

11) Don't counter using Focus Sash. Focus Sash is only allowed if not necessary to counter the other Pokémon.

 

[UltiMario]

*facepalm*
Dang me and my terrible Memory.

Claydol@Choice Band
Adamant/Levitate
252Atk/142Def/116Spe
Earthquake

Obviously, you 2HKO me. No denying that.
But, I outspeed by 1 point, then come in and EQ which is an OHKO at a nice, safe 100% of the time.
*curses bad memory*

Dumb starts with a Q.

 

[Pink Reaper]

I send out Sandslash.

Against Torkoal:

Phione w/Focus Sash
Modest/Hydration
100 HP/ 200 Def./ 110 Sp. Atk./ 100 Sp. Def.
+ Rain Dance
+ Rest
+ Surf
+ Signal Beam
Mambaf.

Castform@Expert Belt
Modest/Forecast
252SpAtk/252Spe/4Hp
-Surf
-Flamethrower
-Thunder
-Blizzard

I've been meaning to ask, why do you just throw EV's on your pokemon without thinking about it?

 

[Platypus]

I've been meaning to ask, why do you just throw EV's on your pokemon without thinking about it?

Assuming that "Surf" meant "Weather Ball," the counter is:

Regigigas w/Leftovers
Mild/Slow Start
110 Atk./ 200 Sp. Atk./ 200 Sp. Def.
+ Thunder
+ Swagger
+ Substitute
+ Ice Punch
ONE-TWO-THREE-FOUR-FIVE-SIX-SEVEN-EIGHT...

 

[Pink Reaper]

Lickilicky@Life Orb
Adamant/Own Tempo
252HP/252Atk/4Def
-Sword Dance
-Return
-Aqua Tail
-Earthquake