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the music thread

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hey you
ok when u gave us a ride to grev, on our way back u put a song i liked (just a part)
u put an all rap cd, n the song i liked was the only one with guitar to it
whats the name
i wanna see where they sampled that riff from


also back to the MUSIC aspect of this thread......
Billy Withers is one cool dude
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI7qk_y1YDE

feel the jazzyness flow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JoFPyzc3D8
 

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Fly do you drink alcohol?

I'm under the distinct impression you would be well versed in a variety of local and worldly topics and I would be delighted to share your company, alongside Sheridan, in discussing anything and everything our minds can surmise during some off time at Genesis 2.

This music selection is brilliant!!!
 

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Fleet Foxes released a new album fairly recently and it is phenomenal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2sXR9P3-Bw
need more of this

need more of sheridan z, jeremy w, kris a, derek f, brian m, joey l, and maybe other people's taste in music

someone poast video game music

my random contribution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CbPVoF0KBY

verse 1: imagination
verse 2: intellect
verse 3: heart

i dont think anyone who gives shad a chance could dislike him if you honestly take the time to give something new a shot. he has flow, speaking clearly and conversationally; he pushes boundaries on a track-by-track basis; he has a ton of aphorisms; is multi-layered, subtle, complex, and simple all at once. his production isn't based on the tired cliches of samples and kick-snares and kanye west mimickery.

i've been listening to rap for a dozen years and i've never heard anyone come remotely close. one of the best artists to ever step on planet earth
 

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Did someone say video game music?

Capcom did a great job on the Mega Man 10 Soundtrack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XovEe8erJQ

Vagrant Story has the most underrated OST of its era. It sounds like a dark FFTactics soundtrack, not surprising since Hitoshi Sakimoto also worked on that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqpdsieTL_s

Sakimoto as well worked on Radiant Silvergun, the predecessor to Ikaruga:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCp8qw2ztJQ

The One-Ups are probably the best VGM cover band ever. They have a sax and violin in addition to the standard guitar/bass/drums:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq4SCpvRTWE

In case you don't already know, Ewan Dobson is amazing. Not video game music per se, but he cites game music as an influence, and it's evident in many of his tracks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXrYOM0VSKI
 

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Jazz, a bit, but more Jazz Fusion and Krautrock (German 70's psychedelic). Some of my favorites:

Amon Duul II. How does "God's di
ck" (Phallus Dei) feel in your ear? Personally, I like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfEsNrM2z3s

Magma is a band based on drummer Christian Vander's post-apocalyptic alien space rock opera type vision, sung entirely in a made-up language called Kobaian. It's something like John Coltrane + Carl Orff + prog/psychedelic. This album by itself basically spawned a new genre called Zeuhl, and I am fantastically in love with it. Not for timid souls who can't stick it out through 9 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWNj51kGU8g

Henry Cow took influence from free jazz and modern classical music like Bartok.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BMr5NP8mqs

Mahavishnu Orchestra. One of the greatest assemblies of musical talent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSv6SEN3SKo

Brand X. This was when Phil Collins made good music. This album has grown on me a lot, especially this track, I love the second half:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jCGRbS7LbY
 

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checking out all of these

do you listen to any contemporary music? keep an ear to da street for new releases/reviews? how did you find out about this stuff?

this stuff is mad interesting. i am prepared to delve into new music like i haven't done in my high school days. JAZZ, CLASSICAL, CLASSIC ROCK, FOREIGN. BRING IT!

i am much more skeptical about electronica / almost anythiing modern like the aforementioned drum n bass. but i will check it out in due time

gonna go thru this thread and compile all of jeremy and sheridan's links
 

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Mostly I found that stuff from taking chances on related youtube videos, or from my last.fm recommended radio. I haven't found much contemporary music that interests me enough to keep track of, but I haven't put a huge amount of effort into it, as I've still got a lot of exploring to do in the 60s-70s. I guess stuff like Ewan Dobson and The One-Ups are recent, but as for rock, hardly anything. Wolfmother, They Might Be Giants...I think that's it.

But if someone could point me in the direction of modern stuff similar to what I just posted, I'd be eternally grateful.
 

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A brief overview of jazz:

It’s nearly impossible to come up with a precise definition of jazz but one characteristic that it has to have is improvisation. Because of this most people don’t consider smooth jazz as “real jazz.” There’s little to no improvisation in smooth jazz.

A characteristic that jazz had ubiquitously until around the 60’s was a rhythm that was “swung.” It’s hard to explain on paper but basically instead of even eighth notes, the downbeats are slightly longer and the offbeats slightly shorter. This gives jazz it’s “swinging” feel.

Jazz has its origin in the blues, which can be traced back to the work songs sung by the slaves in the fields. Musically, it takes its characteristics from two sources: African rhythms mixed with European harmonies. It’s truly a unique result of the cultural exchange between the African slaves and whites in the United States.

Jazz was invented in the early 20th century, most would say in New Orleans. This early genre of jazz is commonly called “Dixieland” music. This is the style of music that the well-known trumpet player Louis Armstrong played.

I don’t really listen to much Dixieland but I’ll post a couple of standard tunes just as an example:

Louis Armstrong - Basin Street Blues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8GjJD826vc

ODJB – Livery Stable Blues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WojNaU4-kI

Big Band/Swing: Not much to say here besides the obvious. Large ensembles of instruments playing large scale arrangements. The popular dance music of the 30’s and 40’s, probably the most famous examples of this are

Glenn Miller – In the Mood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3K5uB-wMA

Louis Prima – Sing Sing Sing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2S1I_ien6A

In the mid 40’s and early 50’s, a duo of musicians, Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie, changed jazz forever. They developed the style of jazz known as bebop. This genre emphasized harmonically complex solos with syncopated rhythms, along with uptempo speeds. Here’s a few examples:

Charlie Parker – Celerity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEibWy5miBk

Charlie Parker – Confirmation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XA_Jugejto

Charlie Parker – Cool Blues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pVxWdnInWY

In my opinion Charlie Parker is the greatest musician of all time. His technique was pretty much flawless, his solos were melodic, yet complex and swinging as hell.

Around the same time, Miles Davis and Gil Evans collaborated with a group of musicians that went in a unique direction. They invented a genre of jazz known as Cool Jazz. This jazz emphasized more European harmonies along with a more relaxed feel and arranged structure. Instruments such as the euphonium were incorporated into the group. The seminal album for this style was called “Birth of the Cool.” Miles knew he was onto something:

Miles Davis - Boplicity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLzqjmoZZAc

Miles Davis – Jeru: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRjjqFogPGI

Modal Jazz, which Miles Davis is also given credit for inventing, is a style that usually only uses one or two chords. As such, it is the soloists job to create tension and resolution on his own without help from the changes. The best example of this is seminal “Kind of Blue,” the most famous jazz album of all time:

Miles Davis – So What: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEC8nqT6Rrk

Miles Davis – All Blues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t64Y6e2Zwa0

If there’s one album that’s required listening for anyone, not just jazz fans, it’s Kind of Blue. It’s a perfect album. Few things are better than laying back, closing your eyes and listening to Flamenco Sketches. Ahhhh **** =].

Latin Jazz happened during the 50’s and 60’s. Not much to say except it’s a fusion of jazz with latin music. The two varieties are

Bossa nova (Brazilian influence):

Astrud Gilberto - The Girl from Ipanema: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jrJ5mcCshw

And Afro-Cuban music (Cuban influence):

Manteca (originally by Dizzy Gillespie): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koAHmimCPUY

By the mid 60’s, Jazz was no longer the dominant popular music of the day. Rock and Roll had surpassed in back in the 50’s. Jazz musicians incorporated rock elements into their music in what some might call an attempt to stay relevant. Thus, jazz fusion (also called simply Fusion) was born. It rejects the swung rhythm of traditional jazz in favor of a more straight rock feel. Electronic instruments were also being incorporated.

Once again, Miles Davis was at the forefront of this innovation (at this point, you should be beginning to see why he’s considered one of the most influential jazz musicians ever). The landmark album for fusion is often considered to be “*****es Brew.”

Miles Davis – *****es Brew: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc7qiosq4m4

Chick Corea – Spain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_OEJ0wqt2g

Herbie Hancock was also very into jazz fusion/ jazz funk:

Herbie Hancock – Chameleon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQsSQRWMhOs

Fusion continues to develop well into the modern day, with various jazz groups sticking to that style.

The avante garde movement was also happening concurrently with fusion, but I don’t know much about it nor do I particularly like avante garde or free jazz, but certain influences remain.

I’d say modern jazz in these past couple of decades has been very fusion-influenced, but the beauty of jazz is that it is a highly adaptable art form that can absorb many musical styles into it. It’s hard to pinpoint one particular jazz “style” basically since bebop, since there have been many offshoots or branches within the genre since then.

I’ll end by posting some modern jazz musicians and their tunes:

Kenny Garrett – Wayne’s Thang: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDFRSX_n_Vc

Joshua Redman – Jazz Crimes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ICJUFOJa2g
 

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I would like to see jazz also. I haven't delved too much into it but this is what I like so far, any recommendations you have along those lines would be awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuWjE7nAB2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIqSbvktrYo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP5L8tjnB6w
In order:

-If you like that check out pretty much anything by Coltrane that's not his later avante-garde stuff

-If you like *****es Brew check out pretty much anything by Herbie Hancock during the 70's

-Don't know about that lol.

I'd recommend checking out Coltrane's and Hancock's discographies and then searching on youtube for what you can find, then work from there.
 

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In order:

-If you like that check out pretty much anything by Coltrane that's not his later avante-garde stuff

-If you like *****es Brew check out pretty much anything by Herbie Hancock during the 70's

-Don't know about that lol.

I'd recommend checking out Coltrane's and Hancock's discographies and then searching on youtube for what you can find, then work from there.
truuuuuuth
 

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dante,

do you know of any good resources to study jazz? i once took a class on music appreciation that broke down all the parts of classical, which was incredibly enlightening because no ****ing way you ever realize that yourself, but i'd like to discover something like that for jazz (without taking a friggin 5-month course or buying a book; yeah, i plan on doing these things eventually anyway but maybe you know something to help in the meantime so what's the harm in asking)
 

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well excluding books and classes kind of limits your options quite a bit. I'd say if you want to learn about the history, check out a tv miniseries called "Jazz" by Ken Burns. It's supposed to be a pretty good series. If you want to learn about the musical nuances of jazz--the rhythms, harmonies, and language-- I can't help you there without telling you to resort to a book or class.

also: check out this short documentary about the most famous jazz album of all time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGQzNsZAtCo&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL13A19CE447FBDB4D
 

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Well well well, look what I've found here....
Finally... a good/active music thread.

digs

more digs


Ahhhhh kids and their rock and techno. I doubt anyone shares my tastes, but ah well here's a link to some (more modern) jazz. This here's music for musicians. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usnjclLNnTI
soooo goood

Dante, if you can recommend me some more Jazz to get into like this.. I would really appreciate it.
 

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more music thread, yes please
listening to new music is so great and yet i don't do it nearly enough! =O


http://www.droppinggems.com/podcast-fifteen/

this music is super cool
a podcast full of remixes by one of my favorite guys, Groundislava
there's one song towards the end that makes me crazy it's so good, very basketball ft. jake weary

electronic music but very groovy
synths and vocals and effects, i love it


edit: also the rap sampling has a distinct sense of humor to it LOL
 

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more music thread, yes please
listening to new music is so great and yet i don't do it nearly enough! =O


http://www.droppinggems.com/podcast-fifteen/

this music is super cool
a podcast full of remixes by one of my favorite guys, Groundislava
there's one song towards the end that makes me crazy it's so good, very basketball ft. jake weary

electronic music but very groovy
synths and vocals and effects, i love it


edit: also the rap sampling has a distinct sense of humor to it LOL
pretty sick

parts of it reminded me of hudson mohawke's valentine's day slowjamz (volumes 1-4)
(that's my sht)
 

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Thanks for the very informative post Dante. I enjoyed a lot of those tracks. I had head Kind of Blue before but I wasn't as into it as Giant Steps, but I think it's growing on me.

I also like this and would like to know where I can find more of the same:
Charles Mingus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWmE8T09-G4

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More stuff I like:

Camel. I can't ****ing get enough of the sax at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCSjt_FmNjw

Devo is one of my favorite bands. They aren't amazing musicians, but they are one of the most "complete packages" as a band. What I mean by that is they have an underlying theme to their work and albums (de-evolution is real!), and you can enjoy it as a gimmick but you can also enjoy it as a sincere 'message.' As such they (mostly) avoid being preachy about it but it comes across just as clear. Freedom of Choice is basically their perfect album in this respect. This is one of my favorite videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjuV0Wahndg

Before Danny Elfman wrote The Simpsons' theme, the score for Batman and Pee-Wee's Big Adventure (among other things), he was in a great band called Oingo Boingo. Originally they were a sort of stage performance group, and were part of Richard Elfman's amazing movie The Forbidden Zone. I love this whole album (Good For Your Soul):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFhtylZb7Qg

Oh yeah and you can add me on this thing:
http://www.last.fm/user/Hyugalisk
 

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more music thread, yes please
listening to new music is so great and yet i don't do it nearly enough! =O


http://www.droppinggems.com/podcast-fifteen/

this music is super cool
a podcast full of remixes by one of my favorite guys, Groundislava
there's one song towards the end that makes me crazy it's so good, very basketball ft. jake weary

electronic music but very groovy
synths and vocals and effects, i love it


edit: also the rap sampling has a distinct sense of humor to it LOL
yo thanks for this

if you just want the song, I cut that **** out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqxVTUlaK5I

download link in description
 

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DUDE I ****ING LOVE YOU LOLOLOLOLOL


hahaha thanks so much man
i tried looking everywhere for that mix but as far as i know it's only in the middle of the podcast

holy **** you are a great man
 

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Hyuga: I don't listen to Mingus so I can't recommend anything similar. Sorry.

Shadrach: I actually don't really read many books on jazz theory that are for general knowledge. I only read stuff to aid in my practicing since I play jazz. So the only thing I can recommend is to search for such a book or take a class. Sorry. :/
 

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^that was really good, listened to the entire thing

shameless bump
 
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