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Social The MKGD: The rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated

warionumbah2

warionumbah2

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How Mr R converted

"I'm fighting a Rosalina"

"I have to go to Halberd"

"I play against Tyrant alot"

"I lost to a Mexican MK"

"This is MKs stage"

"i'll beat him with Sheik anyway so...*** it"

then

"Damn Nairo bodied my Sheik"

"**** it imma go MK"

"OH MY GOD I WON"

"Darn, nearly beat his ZSS tho...hmm MK huh"

That's how you sell your soul to MK. :4metaknight:
 
Shaya

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Needs to be buffed more, right? :p

His Brawl MK was quite good really, his was probably the best in Europe for years. He was also second best Marth on Earth (which as I'm always seeing him disemboweling Marth players it's always funny to hear commentators say "oh mr.r may not know this match up that well" if the marth ever does anything good").
 
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Mmh, the best marth being mikeneko i guess?

Anyways, i'm not really happy about all this sudden popularity of the char. Let us be in the shadows dominating your nightmares x)
 
ILOVESMASH

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I'm not a good player, but with the nerf to Falcon's two safest KO move (Bair and Uair) and the buff to our Jab, I think that the matchup just might be 50 : 50 or 45 : 55 in Falcon's favor now. We could already edgeguard Falcon pretty easily with Bair and the buff to our jab makes edge guarding Falcon almost effortless now. Falcon's 2 safest KO moves being nerfed means that he'll have to work slightly harder for KOes now, which gives us more opportunities to abuse his poor disadvantageous states. We probably still lose the MU due to our neutral being significantly worse than Falcon's however.

Also, can someone link me to the Matches where mr. r used Meta Knight?
 
Sneaky boy Nick

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I need assistance, Metaknight combos that don't involve up air. My friends tell me I always go for the same thing and don't understand my character.

I'm pretty hurt and would like to prove them wrong somehow.
 
Exdeath

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I two stocked Ryo's Roy and can't take a game from Static Manny's. Beating Roy's Up-B is... difficult. Once I figure it out I don't think that I will lose to Roy anymore. I also lost to Myran today, so I am going to be looking into Olimar soon.

@ItoI6 Ideas?
 
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I posted this in the Skype group already, but it looks like he's going to be dedicated to using the bat.
 
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At this rate, everyone is going to main Meta Knight. :4metaknight:

This'll give me PTSD. :metaknight:
 
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Jamurai

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Sneaky boy Nick said:
I need assistance, Metaknight combos that don't involve up air. My friends tell me I always go for the same thing and don't understand my character.

I'm pretty hurt and would like to prove them wrong somehow.
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Shameless plug :dkmelee: Scroll down to "Combos and techniques to focus on"

Also you can find a MK combo compendium here

Not tunneling on Uair combos is kind of important because if you're doing that you will miss out on easier free damage at some percents, and also you're being predictable. It is very powerful obviously but it's not the be-all-and-end-all MK combo
 
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I was bored and looked at recent activity which lead me to the top 5 MK thread. Kudos to you MK players for going to tourneys and having a good competitive outlook.
I sometimes play MK for fun but aren't knowledgeable about him.
 
Ritronaut

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So much for zss being a win button against meta knight

I wouldn't mind if fair autocanceled, in fact I'd love it. Everyone knows he doesn't NEED the buff but it would make him that much of a better character without being broken. A bat can dream can't it?
 
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Amadeus9

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Oh my god Salena is looking so impressive. Seriously he's gotten so damn good. I have much yet to learn.
 
Jamurai

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Jamurai said:
Not tunneling on Uair combos is kind of important because if you're doing that you will miss out on easier free damage at some percents, and also you're being predictable. It is very powerful obviously but it's not the be-all-and-end-all MK combo
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Am I wrong here? Salena with the Dthrow > dash attack > Uair string with fastfalls at low %s... I guess if you're that good at reading DI and fastfalling Uairs then it outclasses Dthrow > Usmash hugely. Damn son.
 
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But it doesn't outclass dthrow tornado (well it does, but not in a strong extent). And it can mess with your percent knowledge by scaling Uair.
 
Amadeus9

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Jamurai said:
Am I wrong here? Salena with the Dthrow > dash attack > Uair string with fastfalls at low %s... I guess if you're that good at reading DI and fastfalling Uairs then it outclasses Dthrow > Usmash hugely. Damn son.
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Salena is almost certainly the best at uair combos. That play is nuts.

PUK said:
But it doesn't outclass dthrow tornado (well it does, but not in a strong extent). And it can mess with your percent knowledge by scaling Uair.
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Staling uair can be a good idea tho.
 
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Jamurai

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Dthrow to DA works against DI away, Dthrow to tornado works against DI up. If you can read or react to it, they take 30% either way. Then if you get another grab, they take an easy 25% from Dthrow > Fair > Up-B, or you straight up kill them with Fthrow > Uairs > Up-B. This character is nuts and I like it. :4metaknight:
 
warionumbah2

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Against fast fallers you can DA --> Utilt --> Uair is a legit frame trap and you can so much momentum off it. I remember telling ito months ago and he said it wasn't feasible when up smash exists, the reduced end lag on nair allows us to punish airdodges and follow the opponent who's in hitstun.

If they jump uair takes it away, airdodge means they're free for a ff nair punish, if they try to use an aerial we will hit them first. If you land the uair you can keep it going but when you notice or feel like you'll overshoot just go for nair preferably fast fall nair.

You can potentially get more reward than DA to tornado, but that'll always be a safe guaranteed combo which will never lose its usefulness. sh into pp is the truth, the way salena plays neutral is incredible and unique. We finally got what greninja and pac man got in Japan, a great month for MK indeed.

Shaya said:
"ftilt"
@ warionumbah2 warionumbah2 at this stage, is there any reason to ever doubt me again?
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So the Smash Con videos are starting to get uploaded, I didn't see this Mr. R game myself, but he looks like to have picked up a fair amount of fundamentals regarding the character already, going as far as taking a game of Nairo's ZSS with the last game on BF being close as well.

 
warionumbah2

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We all knew he was high tier bbefore, people outside this board tend to be hella slow and are clueless about his meta growing . He's 99% top 15 or close to top 10, sh fair will make him top 10.editing that uair combo post when I get home
 
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Amadeus9

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I'm beginning to think that perfect pivoting is what's really going to push this character forward. Being able to actually use ftilt to space or quickly close the gap and utilt into uairs is very strong. I'm going to be spending a lot of my time practicing movement tech to take advantage of these options. It'll be odd to use c-stick for tilts for a while, but i really think my play will improve because of it. Though I'll have to work on being more precise on the stick because I tend to throw out nairs instead of dairs when i don't want to X(

Also @ warionumbah2 warionumbah2 , I made my avatar just for you kyaa~
Oh god I'm so ashamed of my life choices
 
W.A.C.

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Welp. We might never get our short hop forward air buff. Meta Knight's forward air might remain his only bad move.
 
warionumbah2

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It took one video to ruin us ONE VIDEO!!!

Anyway i do not think ZSS is as bad as i made it seem, the video above is basically a high level ZSS vs 2 week MK.

Nairo is not shaken by the MU, yes he hasn't played high level MKs but he's played plenty of bad and mid level knights(zucco's on stream). Mr R didn't get 2 stocked, he made a comeback in game 1.

Thoughts about this MU? Still think its in her favor but nowhere near as much.
 
Amadeus9

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warionumbah2 said:
It took one video to ruin us ONE VIDEO!!!

Anyway i do not think ZSS is as bad as i made it seem, the video above is basically a high level ZSS vs 2 week MK.

Nairo is not shaken by the MU, yes he hasn't played high level MKs but he's played plenty of bad and mid level knights(zucco's on stream). Mr R didn't get 2 stocked, he made a comeback in game 1.

Thoughts about this MU? Still think its in her favor but nowhere near as much.
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I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as we thought it was, but I still think there is a case for 55:45 to 60:40
 
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ZTD | TECHnology

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warionumbah2 said:
It took one video to ruin us ONE VIDEO!!!

Anyway i do not think ZSS is as bad as i made it seem, the video above is basically a high level ZSS vs 2 week MK.


Nairo is not shaken by the MU, yes he hasn't played high level MKs but he's played plenty of bad and mid level knights(zucco's on stream). Mr R didn't get 2 stocked, he made a comeback in game 1.

Thoughts about this MU? Still think its in her favor but nowhere near as much.
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I've been focusing hard on our more complicated MUs. Its still hard as balls. But maybe not 35:65 like many stated. I'm leaning toward 40:60.
 
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