Well Diddy is still plenty good. Im sure some people love Charizard and Donkey Kong but they're on the bottom of the tier list.
It's not like DK and Charizard went from high or top tier to bottom tier (though I wouldn't describe DK as a bottom tier character). No character should have been nerfed to the extent Diddy Kong, Little Mac, and Greninja received.
Well if you ask me, if he truly was your favorite character, you wouldnt drop him just because he doesnt have an easy-bake throw combo anymore. You'd suck it up and make it work, despite the new limitations. Isnt that what us MK mains have been doing since smash4 launched?
And I checked the falcon boards. Didnt they only slightly nerf his upair? Doesnt sound so bad.
His up air has lousy range, it's laggy, only does 6% damage, and its knockback is not strong by any means. Messing with the frame data and range of that move trashes his previous combo game and hurts his neutral game badly. A lot of his combo setups flat out don't work anymore. I don't even consider his up air a good move anymore. It got nerfed that hard. They also nerfed his grab game again, which was really unwarranted, but I could deal with the most recent nerfs to his grab game. I am not willing to deal with what was done to his up air. I also wouldn't say he was an easy-bake character after the previous balance patch. He was still a top ten character, but had to work much harder to get kills, his down throw had less hit-stun, and forward smash (one of his only strong moves) had added end lag making it a much more punishable move to where a bad read could be the end of his stock.
At this point, I feel like the only reason to continue maining him is pretty much out of character loyalty, but I feel he has a horrible future ahead of him because Sakurai doesn't know how to balance his own games properly. He just pays attention to one tournament that ZeRo won with Diddy Kong and Captain Falcon, and assumes they need to be nerfed. Diddy Kong will probably continue to receive nerfs for as long as ZeRo mains him.
Jesus stop complaining about nerfs, diddy was still top 5 and now is still high tier. He'll be much more interesting to play since he can't win with cheap things and a frame 3 kill move. If he had been that way since day 1 (and he should have been), you would have loved playing him.
In 1.06, I considered Diddy Kong a top ten character, but not a top five character. Now, he is low high tier at absolute best.
Diddy got what was coming, him and his bandwagoners knew what Sakurai will do if they keep on cheesing him. Buuuut, it gives a pretty bad look on the community, cry cry cry until it gets nerfed. :/
The problem more so is that the first balance patch complete ignored him, so he established an insane amount of dominance in the game. He was fair after 1.06 and his dominance reduced considerably after that balance patch.
Does it though? When you have like 1-3 characters that are as blatantly dominant as diddy was, it creates a centralized metagame; diddy was really, really good, so a lot of people gravitated towards him because he was "braindead" and easy to win with. A character like diddy is actually very unhealthy for the meta of a game.
Diddy Kong unhealthy for the metagame, but he wasn't after 1.06 patch. Prior to that balance patch, he pretty much invalidated about half the roster and was stupid easy. But with the 1.06, considerably more characters became viable because of his nerfs and he was no longer over powered. One of the best Diddy Kong players in the tristate area, Jtails, actually managed to lose a Ganondorf player sometime after 1.06 came out. That would've never happened prior to that balance patch.
Some may see it as crying for nerfs, but I dont see a problem when it's an issue of balance. Diddy was too good, and now he's being balanced. The only reason you see diddy mains complain about this is because now they have to actually work for their wins like the rest of us do.
He was balance with 1.06.
And if I'm being honest, I'm not a fan of tier lists. They're useful, but they also cause people to gravitate towards certain characters and avoid others. I've seen tier lists that have dedede as bottom or near bottom, but that simply isnt true (slight bias). He is a powerhouse in the right hands, but because he isnt as easy to use as LOL MUH TOP TIER, he's thought of as a weak or bad character.
King Dedede is an underrated character, but I wouldn't put him above mid tier. Though one bad read against Dedede and you can be dead at hardly anything. lol
