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Guide The Mario Match-Up Discussion Thread

M@1funk$hun

M@1funk$hun

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Tye is my first name

I'll probably be wearing a tribal necklace there like I do everywhere

and don't worry about those gay @ and 1 in my name, I made it when I was a super troll

Malfunkshun is cool ^_^
 
ChivalRuse

ChivalRuse

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Throw fireballs at Fox. It limits his movement on a low trajectory. SH uair reaches to the side platforms on non-DL64 stages, so you can at least pressure him if he jumps onto them. My favorite way to reach people who try to camp the top platform is to reverse waveland on a side platform -> double jump uair. Leaves you vulnerable for a lot less time.
 
Bamesy

Bamesy

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...making interesting maneuvers in the Okanagan...
I will not throw fireballs... LOL
I get too scurred as even pills nullified by WD OOS and with Fox being so fast...it's just like committing to something laggy with a Falcon flying at you for free knees.
Too scurry. :O
I see how peeps would like em though. :D

Foxy today was camping me and being mean. He's got lots of Doc practice against the same Doc I play... so he was waiting to get garbs and nairs on me while I try lots of in and out maneuvering. He too smart...Get enough grabs and it's all ok though. :p

Pivot Fsmashes have made my finishing game with Mario SOOOOOOO much easier than people thing Mario can kill...I feel like I can combo into them from anything at any %...especially with plats around.
LEARN TO PIVOT FOOZ!
 
M@1funk$hun

M@1funk$hun

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ChivalRuse said:
Tye is a cool name. Like a cross between tie and dye. Tie-dye. Lol.

You can call me Joe, if you want. See you at Pound. ;)
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thanks and see you there Joe ^_^

Bamesy it seems like your playstyle is based around faking people out

I like it

"oh what I'm comin in with a left hand jab? NO I'M NOT! BAM! RIGHT HOOK!"

yeah...

also fireballs are for the beginning of matches only. I rarely use them. it seems like too much risk to too little reward for me.

@condemned

THAT FIRST COMBO OMFG
 
Bamesy

Bamesy

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LOL
People call me Bam-sy a lot when they first read my name...for some reason.
Especially at Karaoke, they ALWAYS pretend there's no 'e' or something. XD

Well, this is sad(ish) news but, this is my last post for 2 months or so. A music project is starting tonight that will leave almost no time for anything else. Any time I can commit to smash will probably be playing and that will be rare on its own, so I'll be without melee for a while. :/
Meaning no Mawio Bwoz!

Keep up the awesome work. You guys are all awesome. As people and players. <3 you, I'd list you all but you know who you are haha

And you know what to do to bring yourselves to the next level. Individually, together, and Mario as a character. There's plenty of room to grow, in every way. It's up to YOU to do it. You have everything it takes, all of you, stay together and become better than you think you can be. You can be your best and still have room to grow. That's how great this game is, how good life is.

Remember that and you'll be good to go forever. It's all easy, this is just a game and there's really not much to it. I barely play this game and have so little experience it's gross, but I know how to get better, so I can compete at the level I do because of the way I see the game, nothing else. Through this, just the fact that you know things like WD OOS are good, and that you should use it, I know that YOU can become your BEST instantly. You've seen and heard everything you'll ever need to hear or see about this game (or anything) and that's all the experience you'll ever need, now it's just a matter of using it. Using all of the tools you have and know exist. See and hear it all differently, and you'll know what I mean.
You got this! :)



Final words...
DON'T STOP CHANGING. To improve is to become different towards what is better. To become different is to change. Changing is the ONLY way to EVER improve. Metagame, yourself, anything. Always remember that, what's in your head will beat what anyone's hands can do. :)

I posted those final words everywhere I've been active, but the Mario Boards are by FAR BEYOND REASON my FAVORITE boards. You know what to do (grab more? LOL) and you know the rest.

Oh, and remember to smile. :)
 
M@1funk$hun

M@1funk$hun

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I'd love to hear more about your music project if you ever get time to hmu on aim or something ^_^

You will be severely missed Bamesy. Your insight on the game is unmatched and your presence in the Mario Boards is not something that will be replaced easily

I'm gonna quote that post and put it in the first post of the matchup thread as an inspiration to our discussions
 
A2ZOMG

A2ZOMG

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ChivalRuse said:
I don't feel like Mario dittos are that gay. Just gotta be good at baiting.
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U-tilt and wavedash backwards -> F-smash >>> Mario approaching.

Approaching in Mario dittos is just bad given that Mario can usually anti-air himself really easily with U-tilt. He doesn't really combo himself that well, but he does land trap and juggle himself really well just because of how well he anti-airs. Furthermore Mario really doesn't have very good options for punishing well-spaced F-smashes, and what little he has that might punish F-smash reasonably usually has mediocre reward. Thought Marth's F-smash was gay to work around? You can WD oos any day of the week to punish Marth's F-smash if he tries to get cheeky with it. Against Mario's F-smash? Nope, doesn't work.

Furthermore, Mario owns himself with fireballs. Better yet, he owns himself by CAPING fireballs (not to mention Caping approaches). Mario's approach options aren't very reliable for getting around fireballs in general. To make things worse, Mario is also very susceptible to getting CC punished when approaching. CC D-smash is a favorable trade with the vast majority of Mario's approach options.

It's a fun matchup if both players choose to pretend Mario is Captain Falcon...not fun once a Mario user realizes it's so easy for Mario to wall his own approaches. To be frank, Mario counters himself hard. He walls himself just as effectively, if not more effectively than virtually any other top tier.

After all, Mario does have the advantage against Doc in part due to how effectively he walls Doc with F-smash. If you search old posts on this forum, there's definitely a lot of discussion on how much Mario's F-smash ***** Doc. It ***** other Marios just as hard for trying to approach.

As I said earlier, I will pick Ganondorf against other Mario users to make them feel bad for trying to Mario ditto me. At least Mario can't wall Ganon, so I can guarantee my opponent isn't going to be allowed to play nearly as gay. And against other Ganon users, I go Doc so I can be mean to them. B-throw -> B-airs -> easy gimps.
 
ChivalRuse

ChivalRuse

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Get around fireballs by wavedashing out of shield.

Approach in Mario dittos by running toward them, wavedashing in place outside of their f-smash/u-tilt/f-tilt/d-smash range, and if they do something react and punish.
 
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