The Lucas Omelets Chatroom

[heytallman]

You have to do a hell of a lot of stuff to get that, right? Hylian said something like doing extensive frame research (which I think I remember you doing for Ness and Lucas), and just research the game in general. Sounds like a hell of a job. Also, very very time consuming.

 

[Vyse]

You have to do a hell of a lot of stuff to get that, right? Hylian said something like doing extensive frame research (which I think I remember you doing for Ness and Lucas), and just research the game in general. Sounds like a hell of a job. Also, very very time consuming.

More or less.

>.>

*Goes back to lurking*

 

[ToxiCrow]

woo levitas!
you;re blue!!

 

[ZMan]

I guess he blue himself *rimshot*

And GTFO the Lucas boards Vyse.

 

[lil cj]

Good job Levitas!
You have definitely earned the title of Smash Researcher
U hav contributed alot to the Lucas boards
Thanks

 

[Noraa]

its cool

10noraa

 

[Kinzer]

Whoops, stupid me I namedropped Vace, and I only wanted to mention who else had the new sexy Cyan name.

Anyway since the other thread got closed, I thought it would be better to transfer the information to this one, seeing as how it's the best place to go without having to make a new thread while a lot of people read this.

Wow...this thread got busy
Even the name was changed...lol
Alot of pages added since yesterday
After reading all the pages I noticed that alot of us Lucas mains also use Sonic
I guess b/c out of all the characters Lucas and Sonic are the the most fun to play
Gotta love Lucas and Sonic!
Lets form an alliance

We really should form an alliance, if anybody talks trash about the others' boards, we'll torch them on our grill flames (and cook Steak on the side) and when they're all roasted we'll smother them with Omeletes.

Alright but seriously, I heard Lucas has the most rapid pummel in the game, how much damage does it do per pummel? Is the rapid-pummel also true or is there somebody else faster?

Sonic also has the 4th fastest pummel if I recall, doing 2-3% per pummel.

That's for my personal knowledge, now regarding the team itself... PSI magnet doesn't absorb Spring, but I am aware that Lucas has some weird AT's... tell me the ones that a competant Lucas will be using quite often in battles if you don't mind.

What does Lucas specialize in? I'll tell you Sonic is great at keeping the pressure on, dealing damage here and there, like a hit-and-run style, but with Lucas' playstyle, he seems like a character who can punish... is that true?

I'll also have the link to the master thread ready, just in case anymore Lucas' see this food combo of win.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=205101

 

[Levitas]

Lucas needs to use fast moves for safety and plays a zoning game to try to trap the opponent. It's not a very solid gameplan.

ATs you'll see are Zap jumps, wavebounce PK fires, and the combination of the two. Sometimes magnet pulls, and sometimes wavezaps to magnet pulls.

ALL of Lucas's AT's can be combined, lol

 

[Kinzer]

So things like Nair, Dair, Jab, DTilt perhaps...?

Anything else that might be considered "fast" in actual gameplay?

 

[ZMan]

Lucas is good at being defensive and punishment. Tourny level Lucas's will use zap jumpng (pkf + second jump around the same time to get a realy high second jum), wavebounce (moving back while shooting PKF the opposite way to create a sort of wavelanding effect to retreat while shooting a pk fire) and magnet pulling (wavebouncing in the air and magnet to do a horizontal dash.) are the most common Lucas ATs.

I'll post more things when I'm not eating.

 

[lil cj]

Lucas' best approaches are Nair and Dair...so yes u will mostly see those
and Lucas can do combos with both Nair and Dair
Lucas can also approach with Uair,Fair, and Psi Magnet...but not too many Lucas' do this
There will also be alot of jabs(along with jab cancels),ftilt and dtilt
those r his fastest ground moves.
Also dtilt will sometimes be used after a dair(sumtimes the opponent will trip) then followed up by a side smash for an easy KO
Up Smash is situational
And u will hardly ever see a Lucas use dash attack(only if they plan to follow up with an aerial) or PK Freeze(Edge guard) those are his worst moves
Lucas is great at edge guarding....he can use bair/dair to spike and PK Thunder/Freeze to gimp
Uair is also another good edge guarding move
And....as for grabs...Lucas' grab isnt that good
its very laggy if it misses
He has many recovery options: PKT2,Rope Snake, Magnet Pull, and Zap Jump
Well thats Lucas

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

My finals are cake. 1st is drama where I had to recite a monolouge which I did, 2nd is Geometry where I have the highest grade in the class, 3rd is Chemistry where I can pass even if I fail the final, 4th is English where I have to write an essay, 5th is computer graphics where I must finish Peekay bay bay (and it's almost done), and 6th is World History where I get to use all my notes and worksheets. I got it easy.

omg
i was sitting here reading this like wtf how old is this kid?
then i was like ohhh yaaaa... he's my age
then i remembered that i was far past alot of people in my knowledge and that i've already been in all of the classes you've mentioned, plus some (besides drama)
btw calculus is stupid.

 

[Kinzer]

As are all Tether grabs, they're quite laggy... :/

Still, high risk, high reward anybody?

I'm going to have to find some way to remember what Lucas' moveset looks like, I don't even know what Fair/FTilt/Uair/throws look like.

Oh speaking of throws, isn't Lucas suppose to have some kickarse throws?

 

[lil cj]

As are all Tether grabs, they're quite laggy... :/

Still, high risk, high reward anybody?

I'm going to have to find some way to remember what Lucas' moveset looks like, I don't even know what Fair/FTilt/Uair/throws look like.

Oh speaking of throws, isn't Lucas suppose to have some kickarse throws?

Lol
I'll describe what those moves look like:
Fair:He kicks his leg out very fast with the use of PK Love
Ftilt: Swipes at the opponent with the use of PK Love(very very fast)
Uair: Head butts

As for his throws...nothin really special they arent as strong as Ness' throws but down throw and back throw(close to the edge) can kill at high percentages
And with down throw u can follow up with a utilt at low percentages
Up Throw is pretty useless IMO

 

[heytallman]

At low percentages I like to down throw then follow their DI (if they use any lol) and either uair, fair, or bair them. It's pretty nice. But uptilt works too.

Upthrow is pretty useless, but I've killed with it before (in crews, of all places). I think my opponent's MK was at like, 150% or something lol.

BTW, I finished my paper at six oclock this morning, took my final at 8, and slept from like, 11 to six thirty. Never have I been so happy to get sleep.

 

[Levitas]

I did something similar. All nighter to final exam combo is terrible. But the sleep was oh so sweet.

 

[heytallman]

Luckily for me, it was English and not something like calculus or chemistry, so the final itself wasn't too bad. I'm halfway done with finals now, I have one tomorrow and one Thursday, then freedom for like, a month. I'll actually be able to practice up before tournaments now!

 

[Neon Ness]

...What's this sleep thing you guys are talking about? New AT for Lucas?

 

[heytallman]

...What's this sleep thing you guys are talking about? New AT for Lucas?

Lucas now has Jigglypuff's rest attack from Melee.

 

[Neon Ness]

Awesome.

I'll start using that posthaste.

Mindgamez'd.

 

[lil cj]

Has anyone seen that "bair trap" jablock Peach has...its pretty cool
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=211057
Maybe Lucas has something similar with dtilt??

 

[livan]

..a lucas have rest? o how cool sounds that
n_n
..a lucas tiene descanso? o que genial suena eso
n_n

 

[lil cj]

..a lucas have rest? o how cool sounds that
n_n
..a lucas tiene descanso? o que genial suena eso
n_n

They were joking...lol

 

[livan]

....a sorry for be so excite because of that and well is good to talk to you guys
n_n

 

[Neon Ness]

Has anyone seen that "bair trap" jablock Peach has...its pretty cool
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=211057
Maybe Lucas has something similar with dtilt??

What, down tilt lock for Lucas? Yeah, he has one. I can never set one up, though...

Sonic also has an inescapable down throw jab lock combo.

Don't tell no one.

 

[Kinzer]

LOL it's so easy to prevent, it's called DIing up.

Only way we can hope to get a jab-lock on our own is to perform ASC into Footstool onto Spring to Dair to said Jab-lock.

I'll tell you our secrets, because we're buddies, and maybe you guys have some ground breaking ATs that so far only the Lucas boards know.

 

[Levitas]

Well, I keep my guys informed of stuff I'm aware of, and hopefully the smash lab will lead to more stuff I can bring back here.

Oh, and we need a better set up into the bair > dtilt lock, dash attack is slow enough to shield on reaction.

 

[Neon Ness]

I'm so bad at footstooling opponents. Usually I just end up getting hurt. But Spring gimping is the reason I play Sonic. Sacred combo, right thurr.

Also, I bet a lot of people would find our ATs groundbreaking since few people pay attention the Lucas/Ness Boards.

 

[Levitas]

Lol, I don't know if I told you guys about the time I bluffed a guy to the edge of the stage by chasing him around with SH Zairs.

 

[Vyse]

I guess he blue himself *rimshot*

And GTFO the Lucas boards Vyse.

1. We have the same join date [/unrelated]
2. Ness is cooler.


Actually while I'm here, I wanted to research the Ness vs. Lucas matchup.

What's the general consensus?

 

[heytallman]

Lol, I don't know if I told you guys about the time I bluffed a guy to the edge of the stage by chasing him around with SH Zairs.

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA....Levitas....you are a god among men!

I've tried randomly throwing out a zair, but every time people are like "lol wtf r u doin, n00b?" then I cry. I really wish his zair did something besides grab the ledge.

 

[lil cj]

It would be cool if he could grab the opponent while in the air or if the snake could do a bite attack

 

[Kinzer]

Spring owns Tether recoveries.

Trufax.



Back on-to my topic though...

Lucas has some cool hairdo, and then I believe I've collected enough information to do a formal write-up for Lucas right now (yes I know, I'm fast), is there anything else you people might have in mind?

There's that, and I need to know which stages Lucas excels in, and which he prefers not to go. Sonic is versatile, we can go anywhere without losing too much if anything... other than Japes/Pichtochat, and perhaps a couple more of stages I'm not aware of (note that the stagest he Sonic player might prefer are also player dependent, so where I personally love Lylat Cruise, other Sonics see it as an iffy stage).

 

[Neon Ness]

Lol, I don't know if I told you guys about the time I bluffed a guy to the edge of the stage by chasing him around with SH Zairs.

Son. That's... I can't even describe something like that.

Someone admit this man to the SBR.

@Vyse: Do we really have to? I'm sorta weary of Ness vs. Lucas.

They're even. I'll leave it at that.

EDIT @ Kinzer: Lucas loves Norfair to avoid grab release chains and such. Other than that, I pick Battlefield for jab/tilt lock setups, like for all of my characters.

 

[livan]

...a ness vs lucas i .i can't view that i don't want it

 

[Levitas]

@ Vyse: As of a couple months ago, we settled on a 6:4 in Ness's favor.

Ness has superior zoning in the matchup, and is particularly resistant to lucas's game due to the nature of his air game and magnet (which he can do on reaction to any of lucas's projectiles)

 

[heytallman]

I ban Yoshi's Island in every set I play in tournaments.

I like taking people to Pokemon Stadium 2.....>.> People seem to hate the stage, so I figure if I like it, I can do well there. Plus, the wind area is great for hitting people up then spamming PK thunder as they float down. And on the ice part, sliding upsmashes are fun. And you can cancel lag from upsmash on the electric conveyor belts if you time it right. That stage is great.

 

[lil cj]

Spring owns Tether recoveries.

Trufax.



Back on-to my topic though...

Lucas has some cool hairdo, and then I believe I've collected enough information to do a formal write-up for Lucas right now (yes I know, I'm fast), is there anything else you people might have in mind?

There's that, and I need to know which stages Lucas excels in, and which he prefers not to go. Sonic is versatile, we can go anywhere without losing too much if anything... other than Japes/Pichtochat, and perhaps a couple more of stages I'm not aware of (note that the stagest he Sonic player might prefer are also player dependent, so where I personally love Lylat Cruise, other Sonics see it as an iffy stage).

Lucas is good on any stage that allows him to spam PK fire
Also, he's good on stages with a lot of platforms(Battle Field, Delfino, Halberd,etc.)
This allows him to thunderslide

 

[Vyse]

@ Vyse: As of a couple months ago, we settled on a 6:4 in Ness's favor.

Ness has superior zoning in the matchup, and is particularly resistant to lucas's game due to the nature of his air game and magnet (which he can do on reaction to any of lucas's projectiles)

Thank you very much

 

[Kinzer]

I like the options I'm seeing here... but now I gotta ask, why would any Lucas player (I'm not dissing you, you may have something personal against the stage, and that's fine) ban Yoshi's Island (Brawl), is there just something that doesn't aid him at all?

Also, any other stages to be wary of?